What will Pacquiao do if random blood tests become standard?
January 9th, 2010
By Jason Kim: The recent mega fight between WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. died out because of the random blood tests for drugs that Mayweather wanted bout fighters to take before the fight. Mayweather says that he just wants an even playing field. The negotiations quickly hit a roadblock over this matter, as typically only urine is checked by the Nevada Athletic Commission, who oversees boxing matches in Nevada.
Pacquiao is looking to fight former IBF welterweight champion Joshua Clottey next, and unless Mayweather backs down on his request for random blood tests, he can forget about a fight with Pacquiao on March 13th. However, what would Pacquiao do if random blood tests become the boxing industry standard. Of course, it would almost impossible for this to happen, because there would likely be differences in drug testing from state to state in the U.S., and the same would probably go for fights out of the country. But if this were to become the standard, would Pacquiao accept it or would he retire from boxing to save himself the trouble of having his blood tested randomly.
You can understand why it would it would be asking a lot of Pacquiao to have to have blood taken from him, because he feels that it weakens him somehow despite the fact that only minute amount of blood are taken for these tests. But if this became the standard for boxing, Pacquiao would have little choice but to accept them or else find himself in a situation where he might have to retire from the sport.
For a fighter like Mayweather’s perspective, you can understand why he would be concerned about wanting the tests to take place. If you’re not sure if your opponent is using performance enhancing drugs to gain bulk and strength, it can be a little worrisome. Mayweather would like for the tests to be taken so that he can be sure in his mind that his opponent is clean. But on the other hand, the tests are not standard in Nevada, so you can understand why Pacquiao wouldn’t want to have to take them.
So would Pacquiao accept and take the blood tests if they become standard or would he retire to avoid the trauma of having his blood taken from him? It would decision I can imagine. If I were uncomfortable with having my own blood taken, and thought that it weakened me, I would probably have to accept it if I wanted to make a living in the sport.
However, if I had already made a ton of money in boxing, I might retire to avoid being tested so that I could spare myself the mental and physical anguish of having my blood taken. Unless someone was to sit me down and convince me that my fears were all inside my head and not real, I would probably lean towards retirement.
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WELL, WELL, WELL! It seems like the real doper is Mayweather after all. Looks like the clown of boxing Mayweather has been using a injectable drug called XYLOCAINE on his hands. A drug banned in 49 states and is use to numb the hands so a fighter could actually hit harder without feeling the pain, no wonder he did not want to fight in Texas where the drug is banned. Las vegas though lets it go. Read em and weep mayweather fans, your boy Mayweather is not so clean after all.
Check this out: Two Sailors stationed aboard a ship in San Diego slug it out on the messdeck after a heated argument about Pacman and Floyd. The report says that Lashaun S. was takent to the sickbay for several facial lacerations while the other guy, they call RJ was without a scratch and didn’t even break a sweat. Both are in trouble and will be facing Captain’s Mast with possible reduction in grade and restriction onboard the vessel for 30 days. Each will be given urinalysis test. The Navy says they are not doing any blood test.
How coul you say that Philippines has highest crime rate?
IN the Philippines has no large bombing killing people in large magnitude. Oklahoma, New york, not to mention others. If you are intelligent others not. Why you so responsive? I don’t even mention your name. Are you the one taking government ticket for food? If you’re not forget it.
How tragic that a perfectly legitimate poster ‘Mike’ has been taken on by someone with a weaker grasp of his tongue to mimick him and undermine his argument by copying his name for posting. Laughably the foolish, always slip up. And you did by using the m in lower case. Lets not bring this about poverty issue, it really is a huge red herring. I am in the UK on benefits, because there really is little in the way of work. Instead I do work experience at a school and learn about teaching for the teaching degree i am due to begin in october. The remainder of the time I devote to boxing. Do not call me lazy. Phillipines has a huge crime rate, in fact Manny came to the worlds attention as when he fights, crime comes to a temporary stand still. Great advert.
The inability to get work does not imply a lack of intelligence. Hugely disrespectful of you! Unfortunately because of western law, I can’t go out and use a gun to hunt for my food, I would be breaking laws on offensive weapons, intention to use and theft of property!!
These comments remind me how lucky I am to have a sensible education
If in Philippines has 10 million poor people. In U.S has 80 million, lazy people depend on government ticket meal. 10 million filipinos survive on their perseverance, not dependent on their gov’t. They know how survive.
Random stool testing is next demand.
If drug testing by blood is the standard in nevada. may weather i’m sure demand stool drug test, or any drug test that makes his way out of fight in any good fighter.
Manny helps out the poor but whats with his hand signals?
Mayweather camp is in disarray now, reliable source says: They blame each other. Why do they demand so much to that extent.
Drugtest controversy died on natural death. If Mayweather fight other he must continue his insisting of drug testing a a day before the fight.
No fighter will comfortable on that window period. Except himself.
MANNY A ROIDER? SO WHAT
HE USED THE MONEY TO HELP THE POOR IN HIS COUNTRY
IF YOU ASK ME, HE SHOULD BE GIVEN A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE
liboraci
Nice comment. LOL. I like it. You are a smart man. I don’t understand why others has to scrutinize the obvious. I guess they want to sound smart but that’s just so dumb to do in the first place.
Whats with Manny’s hand signals?
The steriod issue is dead? LOL
Look at Manny’s rise in weight in the last couple of years! Anyone with a brain has to question how someone who fights in the lighter divisions puts on so much quality weight so fast? If Manny has nothing to hide then why is he fussing about this issue?He should be happy for the opportunity to show people he is clean?!If he is he should be like,”here you all go,see,told you I’ve got nothing to hide!” Then turn to Mayweather and say,”there you go,no exscuses,lets fight now!”
The fact that he passed up this opportunity is suspicious.
Also if FMJ keeps on moaning about the whole drug issue what is he saying?
Many things to consider but the only thing that matters is the guys involved and their egos and greed are turning many fans off!
Take a look at this cracking record of Clotteys, who many think is better than PBF for no reason other than to dismiss PBF and his achievements. Since Baldomir at Wembley was his first major fight which he lost, I have listed opponents since then. Like Ben Tackie, the lad is clearly VERY durable and is to Pacman what Sakio Bika was to Joe Calz but a decent opponent for the p4p king in waiting he is not:
date Lb opponent Lb W-L-D last 6 location
2009-06-13 147 Miguel Angel Cotto 146 33-1-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L SD 12 12
~ referee: Arthur Mercante Jr. | judge: Don Trella 111-116 | judge: John McKaie 112-115 | judge: Tom Miller 114-113 ~
~ WBO welterweight title ~
Clottey down in round one. Cotto cut towards the end of round three above the left eye caused by an accidental headbutt.
2008-08-02 147 Zab Judah 143 36-5-0
Palms Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TD 9 12
~ time: 1:12 | referee: Robert Byrd | judge: Duane Ford 87-84 | judge: Glenn Trowbridge 86-85 | judge: George Hill 86-85 ~
~ vacant IBF welterweight title ~
2008-04-03 152 Jose Luis Cruz 150¾ 36-3-2
Aviator Sports Arena , Brooklyn, New York, United States W TKO 5 10
~ time: 2:48 | referee: Ricky Gonzalez | judge: Ron McNair | judge: John Signorile | judge: Robin Taylor ~
2007-12-20 146 Shamone Alvarez 145½ 19-0-0
Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 12 12
~ referee: Jay Nady | judge: C.J. Ross 118-110 | judge: Robert Hoyle 116-112 | judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 ~
IBF Welterweight Title Eliminator
2007-08-09 150 Felix Flores 150 22-5-0
Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Kenny Bayless | judge: Chuck Giampa 97-93 | judge: Robert Hoyle 99-91 | judge: Dave Moretti 100-90 ~
2007-04-07 149 Diego Corrales 149 40-4-0
Shrine Mosque, Springfield, Missouri, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Mike England | judge: Jerry Griffin 100-87 | judge: Leo Johnson 98-89 | judge: David Sutherland 97-90 ~
Corrales down in the 9th & 10th rds and was docked one point for spitting out his mouthpiece.
2006-12-02 147 Antonio Margarito 147 33-4-0
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: Benjy Esteves Jr. | judge: Paul Venti 112-116 | judge: John Stewart 112-116 | judge: Eugene Grant 109-118 ~
~ WBO welterweight title ~
2006-07-29 145 Richard Gutierrez 146¾ 21-0-0
Chumash Casino, Santa Ynez, California, United States W MD 12 12
~ referee: Lou Moret | judge: Max DeLuca 116-110 | judge: Marty Denkin 113-113 | judge: David Mendoza 115-111 ~
~ IBF Inter-Continental welterweight title ~
Both fighters had a point deducted for low blows.
2005-12-03 154 Marcos Primera 154 19-11-2
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Kenny Bayless | judge: Doug Tucker 100-90 | judge: Richard Houck 100-90 | judge: C.J. Ross 100-89 ~
~ interim WBC Continental Americas light middleweight title ~
Interim Title
2005-10-21 149 Marlon Thomas 149 35-5-1
Turning Stone Casino, Verona, New York, United States W UD 10 10
~ judge: Frank Adams 99-90 | judge: Don Ackerman 99-90 | judge: Tom Shreck 98-91 ~
2005-02-18 149 Steve Martinez 147½ 46-5-1
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States NC NC 2 10
~ referee: Wayne Hedgpeth | judge: Lynne Carter | judge: Eugene Grant | judge: Robert Grasso ~
2004-07-24 147 Christopher Henry 147 18-7-0
Flamingo Hotel and Casino, Laughlin, Nevada, United States W TKO 5 10
~ time: 1:16 | referee: Jay Nady ~
NABC Welterweight Title
2004-06-04 148½ Christian Lloyd Joseph 150 12-4-3
Mid-Hudson Civic Center, Poughkeepsie, New York, United States W UD 10 10
2003-11-21 150¾ Jeffrey Hill 150½ 23-4-0
Crowne Plaza Hotel, New York, New York, United States W TKO 6 8
~ time: 3:00 ~
2002-12-06 154 Ayitey Powers 5-0-1
Globe Cinema, Accra, Ghana W UD 10 10
2001-11-30 Siki Benger 0-6-0
Kaneshie Sports Complex, Kaneshie, Ghana W TKO 2
2001-09-08 Didier Mebara debut
Kaneshie Sports Complex, Kaneshie, Ghana W TKO 3 8
2001-04-27 147 Ike Obi 2-4-0
Kaneshie Sports Complex, Kaneshie, Ghana W TKO 10 12
~ African Boxing Union welterweight title ~
1999-11-29 145 Carlos Manuel Baldomir 145¾ 28-9-4
The Arena, Wembley, London, United Kingdom L DQ 11 12×3
And the beat goes on…..this fight is not happening no time soon……maybe in the summer. in the mean time ..we have mosley vs berto…winner fight ..pac?..or mayweather?…its going to be a intresting 2010.enjoy..
Anyone who really believes that Mayweather is scared of Manny,well….LOL! There is not one of Manny’s performances that show he can beat mayweather. Mayweathers style is unique and VERY defensive.His kind of style is EXTREMELY hard to beat.The drawback of course is that many of his fights are boring while Manny’s are always entertaining.
As fighters I like Manny better but I go by what I see.
Also whats up with Manny’s hand signals?(Don’t give me any crap that it’s sign language meaning happy!)
I have commented on the matter referring to Xylocaine before but my post was pulled, this was probably as I included a link to a pharmaceutical supplier, but Xylocaine and Lidocaine are both over the counter local anaesthetics and ARE LEGAL widely in the US and Canada. I am unsure which medical journal the writers on here have got this from that its outright banned in 49 states. I’m sorry but thats plain not true if you search online. It is dealt with in the same manner many high strength pain killers are. You must ask the pharmacist first.
The next part of this weak attempt to defame Floyd in the same manner you didnt like about Manny, is that it is restricted in sale due to the fact that many drug manufacturers (illegal) use it to cut products with as it gives a numbing sensation much like cocaine does. This is known globally and is why in the UK a fish anaesthetic and a penis delay cream/powder is also restricted as it contains Benzocaine.
However this all aside, the product is not performance ENHANCING but much like a cortisol injection relives the user of pain. It therefore doesnt mean he hits harder as some suggest, it means it makes boxing slightly less painful in the latter rounds on his knuckles. This bit made me laugh as those who suggested he hit harder have never in the their lives sparred let alone fought as any boxer always hits as hard as his breathing, balance, muscles and brain allow him to hit. But over the course of a fight (See Calzaghe/Haye/Wlad Klitschko) have had to fight one handed. Hardly a fair fight from that point and certainly not in the interests of the fans, YOU GUYS.
Now I can anticipate many of the responses. Floyd the wealthy young man he is, was not talking to much of his adult family until recent years and it may explain why there is a drugs charge on one of those. A charge that has now been spent and served and would have been done out of desperation no doubt; it does not indicate that Floyd himself cheats. That is no better than all of the defamatory comments levelled at Manny which were grossly unfair and do the business of boxing no favours.
Others here will ask, how he is lucky its legal in Nevada. It has to be legal in Nevada as the reasons for its restriction are not on the performance aspect but its use in manufacture of Cocaine, Dilution of Ketamine etc. Nevada only too aware that Boxers require its use legitamately have ensured that its not outlawed there as it is the centre of the world in terms of boxing at the elite level.
Those were the facts, now, who wants to be first with another ill informed, derogatory, defamatory and hypocritical comment. Before doing so, please type in google, xylocaine for sale and see how readily available it is.
What will Pacquiao do if random blood tests become standard?”
what a no-brainer…of course take the test since its the norm….the real question is:
What will Chicken May do if facing beatable opponents is banned?
I am not sure what all the fuss is about. Pac didn’t want to concede for whatever reason (none of us really know his reasons why). The reality is, most people who support a particular fighter will try to find justification for their actions whatever they may be. Ultimately, none of us REALLY know what the reason Pac decided not to agree to the random testing.
Pac doesn’t have to worry about random blood tests being standard. We’ve heard nothing from the Boxing Commission and sanctioning bodies and I expect the same going forward.
What Pac does have to worry about is other boxers timing the current system and using PED’s while coming up negative in tests.
The solution is all boxers (including Pac) should time the system, use PED’s and level the playing field. The Boxing Commission and sanctioning bodies should remain silent as it would make for more exciting fights and allow them to make more money.
What would ‘Floyd The Roid The Avoider’ do in a situation like this >?
What an awesome example of :
The Pot calling the Kettle black…
How one shouldn’t throw stones in a glass house…
How plans backfire…
And finally, how truly stupid that whole gang is (Fraud Jr., Fraud The Alien Sr, Golden Shower Boy Del-A-Joka, and $hit for Brains Schaefer)
Once again an example of how arrogant people live their lives and unfortunately Americans…
This Xylocaince issue should be a good way to start this weeks banter for fans of both sides. Now what Fraud Sheep ? Let’s see how you idiots back peddle out of this one. The Sheep had a hay day crucifying Manny without any proof of ANY drug. Now Fraud is on PED’s with a NAME and it’s XYLOCAINE. Just in case you Sheep forgot. I will constantly remind you idiots of your Lame ‘Ducks’ drug of choice ALL WEEK LONG till Fraud has something better to make fun of. I’m sure there’ll be MORE $hit that’ll come out in the wash. I’m surprised those idiots haven’t said Boo since they were SERVED by Manny ! Bwuahahahahaahaaa !
If random blood testing became the norm, Pacman would be finished, why raise a ruckus over a simple blood test if he’s not using?
It will never happen. The authorities has to find better testing procedures which are non-invasive and with minimal side effects on the fighters.
It is probably okay with olmpic athletes since olympic competitions happens only once every four years. However, boxers do their fights probably about 3 times a year. With olympic style testing at least 5 random tests are required before fight time. That would be about 15 random blood tests a year or about 150 blood tests in a span of 10 years. Can you imagine what damage that would do to an average boxer? Blood tests would mean puncuring your veins in order to extract blood. Can you just imagine what your veins would look like after 150 puctures?
A good analogy would be to consider your car tire. If your tire is puctured once or twice, it is still okay but as the number of punctures increases so will the structural strength of the tire be affected.
Same effect will be with your veins. I am talking from experience as I am having blood extracted regularly due to a medical condition which require frequent blood testing. During the first few year, blood testing was quite easy for me. But as time went on, it is getting extremely more difficult to extract blood from me. The medical technologist is having a hard time locating my veins and getting a good spot to insert the needle. So the Commission that rules on the testing procedures should device more efficient and non-invasive testing procedures with minimal side effects.
why would pacquiao resort to PEDs and steroids when he runs the risk of getting randomly blood tested by the NSAC as evidenced during his erik morales fight experience. if anything, that only proved that the NSAC could actually draw blood at random notwithstanding two days before a fight. so if you were pacquiao why would you even toy around with steroids knowing fully well the commssion could come up with the flimsest of reason to test your blood. think people.
If Pacman has nothing to hide, why not take the random blood tests???? The amount of blood taken is way to small to weaken him!!! Can’t you idiots see the OBVIOUS???????????????
ares
With steroids if you take it orally meaning you take the pill put it in your mouth and swallow it with or without water ,the detection time,that means it could be detected within 14-28 days.Now if you get the steroids parenteral meaning you put the drug in a syringe with a needle and inject it into your body ,the steroids detection time is 1-3 months.
Fair game is what Mayweather wants…. is taking XYLOCAINE fair game? … Does it not give you advantage over your opponent …just because 1 state (Nevada) allows it.
Before you accuse anyone of being not fair look at yourself in the mirror, your take something to have an advantage then your accuse someone who doesn’t even take any pain killers or been proven to be doing drugs?
Who is being fair now? those he fought with a numb out fist so he won’t feel the pain or those who don’t take it?
Some people get their fair advantage from hard work like Pacman who works over and above his require regimen.
Maybe its the reason why he does’nt want the fight outside of Nevada.
To his fans ask Floyd about this … can he still fight fair and square in 49 state if he does not take this ILLEGAL DRUG?
Pacman has no choice but to comply with the rules. its just ego that he refused random because the request coming from FLoyd not from the governing body as a whole.
@mmitch you do not know what your talking about. 20yrs in the medical proffesion??? lol
i don’t think NSAC is going to adopt a policy where blood can be drawn even during the day of the fight
the NSAC will probably require a cut off date, 7 days, 5 days, who knows!
Besides, nanotechnology in urine is now the way forward. Blood test is riskier and more expensive! Have we caught anybody yet, by blood test??
as for Manny, he wont be happy if it’s too close to the fight but he will comply because it the rule of the Commission. He will follow the rules of the powers that be, not the demand of the number 2 P4P with no belt to boot!
i have been in the medical profession in more than 20 years and as far as i know enhancing drugs stay in the body for a long time so a blood test 24 days before and right after the fight which pacquiao agreed to ,medically speaking is very reasonable.
IF RANDOM BLOOD TESTS WERE TO BECOME STANDARD. MANNY WOULD DO EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING NOW. SUE IN A COURT OF LAW TO CLEAN HIS GOOD NAME.
If it becomes standard in Nevada he will fight in another state where it’s not standard… like Texas – Isn’t Arum already looking at Dallas? I don’t think it has anything to do with availability at the MGM. It’s a game of chess.
Pacman will accept it as long as this is already a standard and need by Nevada state
he might do what mayweather does and make up his own rules
clearly, mayweather is trying to avoid fighters such as pacquiao and cotto.. he doesn’t even want to fight mosely and paul williams.. he is handpicking his opponents.. WHAT A COWARD!
3 blood test with one 24 days or less. We all know that the fighters will not risk their legacy and attempt to use any PEDs or illegal substances during this period – especially with the public watching every move. Don’t use this fight as an example for improving the doping standards for boxing, make the example on the future rematch where there is more time to implement across the board. I believe there were sufficient compromises on both sides to make a satifactory agreement and determine the fighters will be PEDs/Steroid free. Sign the contract so I can buy my ticket a early jump before it sells out.
i just can’t believe chicken floyd fans are so dumb and ignorant oblivious of what’s going on here. they are brainwash of chicken floyd fraud act. it is crystal clear that chicken floyd is scared of manny paquiao. chicken floyd had 40 fights and out of 40 fights he never ask any drug testing to his opponent except pac and why? the simple reason for that is chicken floyd is so scared of pac period. moron fans of chicken floyd you guys need to wake up and smell the cofee.
@ares
maybe you didn’t believe the mayweathers but you fell in to the trap they expected you to fall in.
btw, here’s a question, how much different is pacquiao’s blood 1-2 days or even hours before the fight to his blood moments after it?? none right??
manny can retire anytime he want, he doesn’t need to play chicken floyd stupid game, he just want to box him inside the ring. but chicken floyd is obviously scared of him. the good example why chicken floyd is scared of pac is you guys watch the zab judah vs chicken floyd fight. he had a hardtime with south paw and speed. but the difference with judah and pac is manny paquiao has speed and power that can disfigure chicken floyd face round by round.
manny paquiao will follow whatever standard testing is required for sure, but he doesn’t have to succumb chicken floyd demand because pac know’s chicken floyd is just playing mind game. beside pac doesn’t need to play chicken floyd game because he doesn’t need him, chicken floyd need pac because he is broke.
The one person making me think Pac’s not clean is Pacquiao him self. I didnt beleive it when May snr. said it, not when mallinagi or anyone else said it. Its Pacs reaction + multiple excuses that has me convinced hes using. The only opinion anybody should listen to is the doctors and they all say 24 days, even 14 days b4 the fight leaves too much of a window for drug cheats. Random blood tests the only way to ensure level playing field. Manny’s only got himself to blame.
yeah.. that’s true.. i think he only got a couple more fight left in him before he retires.. i think 3 more fights is his limit before retiring..he hints on it a couple of times..i think he hopes the mayweather fight to be his last one but it didn’t go through..
pinos and thier stupid, blind, dumb ,backward ,unintelligent views. face it your man is a cheat. take the test and you are finished. doper
Jason, Pac will do—if he is still ACTIVE—the SAME thing he is DOING NOW…
FOLLOW THE RULES set by the COMMISSION…
he would adhere to the tests and abide the rules of the commission.
filipino talk like they have guts hey pinoys what is wrong with your god his a lil puki scared lil puta ka were is is honer and pride his goin to be force to do it cuz his a lil punk
Floyd Mayweather – YOU COWARD!! You found a way to get out of the fight! You never wanted it. And you have tried to avoid it until it was staring right in your face! You could not say NO so you had to find a way out by creating this blood testing issue because you know Pacquiao would never abide with it based on what Pacquiao said after he lost to Morales. You know that if you fight Pacquiao you will lose and get knocked out. That is for sure.
So Floyd, now you don’t have Pacquiao staring at your face anymore, who are you gong to fight next? Knowing you would never risk your 0, you’ll be fighting Paulie, maybe Hatton’s brother, or some lightweight from Bermuda.
I dont think the fight will happen at all. the whole thing is a huge mess.
I think Jason should write about a new topic instead. How about Clottey vs Pacquiao or Margarito’s after suspension. This are more interesting than this one.
First of all… Mayweather is the person who actually put this obstacle on the table in the first place..
I don’t understand it..
1) He is taller then Pacquaio
2) Longer reach advantage
3) Faster then Pacquaio
4) Has a world class defense
5) Is undefeated
What more does he want???
Lets give Pac-man the benefit of the doubt…
if drawing blood does psychologically weakens him…
Wouldn’t Mayweather want to beat Pacquiao at his best with no excuses??
Why put the road block in the way in the first place??
Yup. Stupid blog……
Mandatory blood testing means Boxing will die. Unless ALL professional sports accept blood over urine testing standards, blood testing will be always be reflected back to Olympian sprinters.
this was a stupid blog…just wasted my time reading it….by the time the blood testing becomes standard, Pacquiao is probably retired already! damas
Pacquiao agreed to three blood tests which are not mentioned in this article. The third test is done right after the fight. I would say this article is biased since it did not mention these three tests. Mayweather is just too scared to fight the Great Pacman.
does anybody knows the detailed technical or medical explanation why or why not blood testing should be done 30 days, 24 days, 14 days prior fight date & right after the fight inside the locker room? how long does the steroids or performance enhancer stays in the blood? Unless we know the real answers to these questions, we will never know who the real coward or who is taking advantage of this issue !!!…
Lex,
As far as i know WW is from 141 – 147lbs. correct me if im wrong, so 145 is still in the WW range. Remember Hopkins vs. De la hoya? They fought at 158lbs. 2 lbs. below the middleweight limit of 160lbs. and its for the undisputed middleweight championship.
I know that your getting my point here mate. Now 10$m. penalty per pound? why? because FMJ disregard the weight agreement in his bout againts Marquez. Just a question for you mate? Would you still want to follow a boxer which is more willing to pay the penalty rather than stepping in the ring fair and square? Mate im not accusing FMJ, this is a fact im talkin to.
It’s ridiculous to push for a random drug test when Pacquiao already aggress to have blood test done immediately after the fight (not mentioned at all in this article). Is Floyd trying to say that results will be different? Floyd is afraid and to escape, exploits Pacquiao’s bad experience with Morales, when blood was drawn closer to the bout. In boxing, you never have to give in any inch to your disadvantage. Losing on psychological ground is what Manny doesn’t want to happen.
If mayweather is true to what he ask, he should be fair.
They always ask for respect and equality, why not say that he will have the same test at the same random time…. would you not agree? If he cannot be fair, then I suggest he quit the sport and put up a used car dealership. Like they used to say,..”thinkers are doers”.
Oh come on … this writer doesn’t even know what he is trying to convey – “What will Pacquiao do if random blood tests become standard?” … what a stupid question.
Some people weren’t troubled when Pacman was weight draining a champion for his belt but now are ok with the fight not hapening because SuperPac its afraid of weight draining himself.When Cotto said he wasn’t puting his belt on the line Pacfans said two pounds weren’t a problem, now they are worried about some blood teaspoons. How disappointing.
blood test must be testing first to maywether sr. i think he’s the one using ped. he’s pretty ugly now
Lex… Manny knows how his body will respond better than tje rest
of us. Do we ask tiger woods or jordan to do special tests than what
is required for their sport bec they are better
than than the rest? guess not.
If random blood testing becomes a standard
then i’m sure Manny will take it.
he’ll retire, but they wont become the norm anytime soon
It’s nice to see people on here who write like they absolutely, positively, 100% are sure, without a doubt, when referring to Manny and how he feels…
Here’s someone’s quote earlier. “Manny NEVER felt it weakened him until Floyd wanted to fight him”. Dude, did you talk to Manny personally ? You sound like you were there…
Exactly. This point would be moot since he would be retired any new boxing-wide rules could take effect. But if it was mandatory–then it is mandatory!! Get it? If he doesn’t like doing it, and it’s not mandatory, then WTF would he do it for?? And if the opponent doesn’t like it?? Then the payday for the Pacquiao Lottery winner would be whoever is the willing party. Yes he obviously has good opponents lining up regardless of his crazy superstitions. And the rest—–wanna be prima donnas–well, the quality of their opponent prospects speaks for them. When you negotiate, when you talk, you gotta be able to back it up!!!
Why Manny should even worry about these tests? He will just retire and live comfortably for the rest of his life LOL…
It is very simple if random blood test become standard then manny should do it…why avoid rules. But unfortunately now there is no such thing as random blood test beside its a waste of time.
all fighters fasten to make weight, in 2 days they don’t eat or drink much. if blood drawn within 2 days you have to eat and drink to recover. so u cant make weight. That’s why boxers dont eat or drink much a day or 2 before weigh-in day. after that they refuel………. duh….
He will adapt,but I heard he is good for a couple of good fights.But,realy the question is; What will Mayweather do if lidocaine will be banned in Nevada like most states?
whoevers an idiot that wants to get their blood taken out 14 days and less before a fight of this magnitude needs to be shot. Where does your intelligence come in this. If you go out, you know when you get your blood taken out you get weak. That is what Pac is afraid off and thats why he wont do it because thats one of the key components as to how he lost against morales the first time around. Check youtube for the comment.
And the point of random testing lex_fugitive can mean ANYTIME before the fight. You whack job.
Pacfans site the Morales fight, but Manny’s own excuse only makes sense if its right before a fight. Manny never mentioned this fear or superstition against Hatton. He never had this fear until Floyd was his opponent.
Does anybody knows the technical/medical explanation why or why not blood testing should be made 30-days, 24 days, 14 days prior fight dates or right after the fight? How long does steroids stay in the blood or urine? these must be answered to finally rest the case !!!!!…by then we will know who is SCARED after all !!!!
Unbiased,
You surely think Manny thinks he’s bigger than boxing too. He changed the rules to win a welterweight title without even fighting at that weight and invented a new penalty.
Scourge, in the video you mentioned he said he only felt weaker because he couldn’t eat or drink afterwards! Does Manny fast and dehydrate 14 days before a fight???
What will all fighters do if it’s mandatory? They’ll take the tests.
If it will become a standard requirement from NSAC, Manny will surely follow. If it will become a standard requirement from Chicken Floyd, it’s not my problem you are scared Floyd.
what will happen is 1. manny will start loseing fights at welterweight 2.or manny will go down to lightweight to fight.
Lex
Move on brother, theres a better life outside the internet world. Just enjoy watching floyd’s fights and believe that he’s the greatest boxer in the world.(actually bigger than boxing since h’e's trying to change the rules.) Its over mate. again move on.
It won’t n never will!! There no random for nfl nba n mlb so it won’t happen in boxin!! Maybe blood test but not random!!
lex,
You’re right he did take one w/Hatton. 24 days out, which is what was agreed to. You didn’t see Pac train the following days so how did you know it didn’t weaken him.
The answer is yes! If it’s standard, he’ll do it, alas it’s not.
Manny never felt it weakened him until Floyd wanted to fight him. Manny didn’t feel it weakened him 9 months ago against Hatton. As for Manny’s interview after Morales 1 he claimed he was weak only because they took blood 48 hours before the fight and he was fasting and dehydrating to make weight. He never said giving blood made him weak. Floyd offered 14 days before the fight as a cutoff date, so Manny’s excuse only makes sense if he’s fasting and dehydrating 14 days before the fight.