Is Pacquiao better off not having fought Mayweather?
January 12th, 2010
By Dave Lahr: The more and more I think about it, the better off Manny Pacquiao was by not choosing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I think Mayweather would have totally dominated Pacquiao from start to finish with his movement and pinpoint punching, and I see the fight as one-sided slaughter. But here’s the deal: by not facing Mayweather – a fight that Pacquiao might have taken a beating in – Pacquiao can continue on with his winning streak become even a bigger star by picking up wins over the likes of Joshua Clottey.
Pacquiao doesn’t even need to ever fight Mayweather, period. Pacquiao will continue to get huge paydays against pretty much whoever he fights from this point on. The March 13th fight against Clottey at the Dallas Cowboy stadium will bring in a likely figure of $10 million or more for Pacquiao. With that kind of money, why mess things up by facing someone dangerous like Mayweather and end up possibly getting beaten up and humiliated.
Pacquiao does well against fighters that come at him like Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto and David Diaz types. But I think Pacquiao would have serious trouble against a fighter that moves a lot like Mayweather or Timothy Bradley. Those would be a different kind of fighter that I can’t see Pacquiao being able to deal with.
Manny is good when he’s got a fighter coming at him, but Mayweather is the exact opposite of that. Mayweather would be using lateral movement all night long; pot shotting Pacquiao and avoiding Pacquiao’s in and out attacks. Mayweather would be landing hooks, jabs, right hands, you name it, and I can’t see Pacquiao having much luck at all landing anything all night against him. This is why I feel that it’s a good thing that the fight fell apart because of the random blood testing. Pacquiao doesn’t ever have to fight Mayweather now. Who would blame Pacquiao if he didn’t? I wouldn’t.
That whole thing can derail fights forever and there wouldn’t be anyone trying to say that Pacquiao is dodging Mayweather. It’s good because Pacquiao can then continue to fight the Joshua Clottey’s and the Ricky Hatton types of the boxing world, do well, and retire on top.
But if Pacquiao were to fight Mayweather, I hate to say this but I think Pacquiao would be destroyed by Mayweather much worse than Juan Manuel Marquez was recently. I think it would be a total destruction because with Pacquiao’s aggressive style of fighting, I think he would play directly into the hands of the expert counter punching Mayweather, and I think Floyd would literally box Pacquiao’s ears off.
I don’t see Pacquiao winning one round against a skilled fighter like Mayweather. It’s not that Pacquiao isn’t a great fighter, but it’s that his style seems to be made to order for the talented Mayweather the way I see it. Floyd is hard to beat, and no one yet has out-boxed Mayweather and I don’t expect that a smaller slugger like Pacquiao would have much of a chance against him.
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Mayweather not great? You for real… Mayweather has better wins on his record then Manny so I am guessing Manny is not great either or is different because its Manny. Hate all you want but if Manny grew some nuts and did the tests you would be watching him getting out boxed on March 13th believe that.
There is no doubt that Floyd is a good fighter but never a great fighter. We can’t be sure and should not be the subject of speculation the outcome of the fight if ever Floyd will fight Pacquiao. Writers ike you have speculated that Pacquiao is no match for DLH, Hatton and Cotto. And all of you have eaten your ass with gusto after said fights. Style makes fights and the styles of Pacquiao and Mayweather would be the attraction why fans are dying to see the fight. Let us hope to see it in the future and see who is really a great fighter, Pacquiao or Mayweather. My pick: Pacquiao is greater by a mile. Mark my word. I have never been wrong. Dig all my comments in all of Pacquiao’s previous fights…I HAVE NEVER BEEN WRONG.
“Its a good thing Floyd ducked another true champion”
Lemme fix that.
Its a good thing Floyd ducked another cherry picker”
There.
Let’s do some deeper analysis on the issue based on their statement & proposal
so that we could see who is the real culprit
Argument 1
Mayweather wants pacquiao to undergo random olympic style blood testing up to the fight night
for fear that manny is cheating using steriod or any performance enhancing drugs in their fight
Argument 2
Manny pacquiao does’nt want to undergo random olympic style blood testing up to the fight night
for fear that it will affect his performance mentally & physically; and not because he has something to conceal – taking steriod to boost his performance during fight night
So these are 2 opposing arguments. Considered stalemate to be fair. but still only one will end up correct.
so whom do we believe?
Let’s check other proposal from pacquiao.
“Pacquiao already agreed to undergo random olympic style blood testing after the fight”
I think this proposal is enough to satify both of them. why?
On argument 1 – will be no longer valid since pacquiao will no longer force take random test before the fight
ON argument 2 – win or lose for mayweather, after the fight, if pacquiao found guilty of taking steriod,
pacquiao will be disqualified and mayweather will be declared winner thus retain his 0 loss status
(maybe his cash prize also should be forfeited)
Mayweather has nothing to lose if he accept the proposal of random olympic style blood testing be done after the fight.
thus I still have no idea why he still cannot accept the deal. why?
And I believe manny is not stupid, because he knows any performance booster attributed to steriod during the fight
will surely be detected after the post fight blood testing, thus he will lose all his credibility.
why cheat if you know u have no escape?
Therefore I may now conclude that manny’s argrument is more credible & acceptable than
mayweather accusation, maybe mayweather just want to weaken his opponent mentally if not physically by this blood testing (his real reason)
conclusion: The culprit is mayweather.
I agree with “Rooster” – that if Manny is doped he will not agree to be tested after the fight. It is so obvious that Mayweather is really scared of Manny because his record will go-up in smoke and is looking for any kind of excuse not to fight. No matter what kind of terms Manny agrees to, Mayweather will still come-up with a new condition that Manny would not agree to. Fans and promoters are wasting their hopeless effort in a no-starter deal.
mart
manny is a great champ no dout about that, i respect his decision. he has nothing to prove to anyone. floid on the other hand wants to be a bullie.
Y r alot of people crying about Floyd fighting smaller fighters. He fought one fighter that’s smaller then him and all of a sudden he’s a bully. U gotta be kidding! Lets c, Diego, Castello, De la Hoya, N’Dou and Gatti all out weighed him when they fought. Hatton and Juhda were the same size. About dodging fighters Mosley and De la Hoya both turned him down when they were n their prime. What else is a man supposed to do. He jus wants to b sure that PAC is clean and let’s get it on.
Pac fan here through and through, but I gotta say, my man the PacMan can’t beat Floyd Jr. Pac will swallow alive any fighter of comparable size who stands toe-to-toe with him. Against a smart and slick ring surgeon like Floyd Jr, not to mention bigger, my idol will eat a lotta leather. May kiss the canvas again too. Glad this fight didn’t push through.
Yes, he would be better off not fighting Floyd. As I can see it, he does’nt have his greatness by fighting Floyd. Floyd is only a P4P on his own words but not on his works. Fighting smaller guys does not really seal P4P legacy. He should completely dropped off the P4P list. Manny in a meanwhile had already proven he can take bigger guys like de la hoya and Cotto. In fact, for a 5’6″ boxer, he is already way past his own league as he should be in the Junior Welterweight Division. But he proved he can and even win against bigger opponents. Manny to fight someone like Clottey, which people say is a high risk/low rewards fight but it proves that Manny is not afraid of fighting anyone nor even losing. Maybe next year if he gain more weight he can fight at the Jr Middleweight win or lose then retire. So for now, he dont need to fight Mayweather at all.
Its obvious that Pacman is going to go down as a great fighter unless it comes out that he been cheating, but that remains to be seen. But with that said, he has to fight Mayweather. Although he will be considered great, there would always be the question could he have beaten the best P4P challenger which is no doubt Floyd but it could easily be the other way aroud where he is the challenger. its to big of a fight for them to end there career without fighting to see who is the best.
Reading all the comments will give you a sense of de ja vu, nearly same comments before dela hoya fight, hatton fight & cotto fight and all same results.
We should all hope they will face each other and beat the hell out of each other, not sure who will win but what if Pacquiao wins? he has beaten an older FMJ critics would say, no longer on his prime. If FMJ wins, well then critics would just say he’s beaten a smaller guy. No win situation for both fighters.
Might as well not face each other.
Arum and Manny both know this. Thats why they turned down a fight with Floyd. A bigger, faster, and more talented fighter than Marquez. Pacfans just yell Floyd is a chicken without looking at their styles or previous fights. Manny is a Phillipino and a slugger, I get it. Pacfans love Manny because of this, but how does that or any of Manny’s previous fights make anyone think he would have a chance at winning one round against Floyd? Just yell Floyd is scared and hope no one pays attention to the facts.
Same old story about Manny and in the end, Manny always win. So shut your Mayweather fans mouth, your all like Mayweather with a dirty mouth.
@NICE…Finally, someone knows what he’s talking about!!!
hey mate, nice article… but one thing you missed to mention is that mayweather always avoided fighters that he’s scared of. if you’re scared of your potential opponent you’re already half beaten before even fight them. so you’re article is merely an opinion and wether is an educated one, then that’s determined on how much credential you have regarding boxing. my credintial? im professional boxing coach. pacquiao is capable of counter punching just watch cotto’s second knock down and marquez’s first knockdown on their 2nd fight.
i think manny should have taken the floyd fight. he hasn’t fought an equal since the marquez rematch. it was also his last great fight. the other would be the first morales fight. the reason is that all of his other fights, he dominated. floyd would have given him a stiff test unlike his last four fights. a lot of fighters can’t hang with manny for twelve rounds. even though i picked floyd to win the fight, manny would have looked great trying. just like marquez II and morales I.
RoadKill, Forget about random testing or regular testing…The main point is that Manny agreed to get blood tested after the fight (even if the commision doesn’t require it). If he is using some kind of drugs, then it will be exposed right? I don’t know why you can’t see the obvious common sense here…Roadkill, if you are Manny and you know that you are dirty, would you let them get you blood tested right after the fight???
Amen to that haha…I’ve always said that Pac has a punchers chance but that was about it! No disrespect to Pac and his legion on fans but all the guys he’s fought in recent past Cotto, Hatton, DLH, Diaz have all fought the same dumb fight! None are known for defense and neither of them came with a Plan B to impose their size or jab! Floyd may have been more aggressive at 130-140 but his dad preached defence and Roger preached Offense so in you cant be mad at Floyd for him being the product of what he was taught!
finally, someone who makes sense. floyd is all bad for manny. marquez showed the world that counter punching is the way to beat manny. floyd is the best at that!
LOL MIKE…
All you pacquiao fans treat pacman like you wanna take him home to meet your mother. when you get in the ring its not a popularity contest. its about winning. hit DONT get hit, YES, you get judged on defence too. Pacquiao said no to $30m (rejected blood tests upto 2 WEEKS before the fight) for 3 fights of $10m each. Right business choice. i say COWARD!!!!!!!!
Why ask anyone but yourself Rooster as we all know what roosters and chickens do together! LOL
Seriously to the Floyd chicken fans>>>Read the fact and use your common sense. Manny agreed to be blood tested after the fight. Don’t you get it? So what is there not to understand. He is not ducking the blood test! I want to know exactly the reason for Mayweather’s team not to accept that deal. Can any chicken fan explain?:)
Floyd is a female chicken!!!I know because I’m a rooster myself.LOL
I think floyd shoud fight shane buts its obvious that shane looking for his last big payday. Shane don’t want to fight Floyd no more than Pacman do
First of all, Paul William is to big for anybody at 147. To tall and long and have a work rate of a jr welterweight or even a lower weight class. He just freakesh and the most avoidable for good reasons. Also Pac did the right thing avoiding Floyd. Floyd presents all the problems he don’t want. Taller, better skilled, and better defense. He don’t get hit while he hits with the best percentage rate. He’s lucky Arum moved on
FMJ said that Paul was too big for him!
Roadkill
To be considered the best you have to fight the best.FMJ has to beat Manny,Mosley and all the very good to great fighters around his weight.
So far he has NOT done that!
Blueblood
I agree with you.
Like I said earlier that of the two I liked watching Manny fight much better.
Takes more chances,is agressive with a killer instinct and excellent skills!
Mayweather has the skills but uses his mouth way too much!
The one question I have for you Manny fans is whats up with Manny’s hand signals?(Nope,it is not sign language for happy!)
Honestly if you watch FMJ fight, its the sort of boxing you expect to watch in an amateur fight (i.e. olympics) coz no one expects you to knock your opponent out but gets the point by tapping your opponent then run away or what you call shoulder roll, side stepping etc. at least Pacquiao slugs it out with the bigger fighters and gets hit at the same time but showed that he can endure some beatings just to land some beatings of his own.
You may be right, FMJ will win but dominate the fight? probably not.
LOL FMJ scared of Manny!
Come on people you shoyld know by now that nothing is as it seems,its all bull**** politics!
Do you still believe what you hear on the news or read in the paper?
Article good? lol, everything is based on fiction and not facts.
LOL People laugh at the idea of Mayweather beating Manny? LOL
Who has Manny fought who is ANYTHING like FMJ?
Manny has not fought one fighter with anywhere close to the handspeed or defense of FMJ! The shots Manny is used to hitting other fighters with will NOT hit FMJ with. I see FMJ fighting a defensive fight and winning almost every round!
(Of the two I like watching Manny fight way more as his fights are ALOT more exciting. The thing is Manny gets hit alot by guys who are not all that quick,the same cannot be said about FMJ!)
This article is very good. Manny is brilliant and if floyd stood and traded with im i believe manny would spark him clean out. I just dont see it happening, floyd will do what he always does dance and counter with speed and accuracy. I think it would be a re-run of the hatton/floyd fight. Now before everyone starts getting excited, i know manny is alot better than hatton. I see manny bombing forward from angles and catching floyd but i see floyd catching manny alot more. Manny will take alot of punches just to land one shot, and i think it will take its toll on manny around the 11th or 12th or floyd winning by decision.
Best laugh I had in ages!! lol, this is a great article for Marvel Comics! Congrats David Lahr!
entertaining stuff Wayne. If this fight does ever happen they should bill it HERO V ZERO. Just watch what happens next, mayweather back up on his retirement perch waiting for that edge, if Manny has a tough fight against Clotty or worse still has a loss mayweather will be rushing in like a mob screeming for the fight, as long as it takes place the weekend after the Clotty fight he will forget about the blood test, but if Mannys in top shape it will be a blood test after every round,mayweather wants a level playing field as long as its tilted 45 degrees in his favour, hes the bigger man with the longer arms and can run faster backwards than anyone around,hes gone on record as stateing this will be an easier fight than marquez , in review the ZERO will only fight the HERO as long as the level playing field protects the ZERO.Thats it im off for a KFC.
The Mayweather’s statements against Pacquiao
“My son will beat Pacquiao regardless of what he is on”
so why demand the random blood test?
“Pacquiao is a one dimensional fighter”
so why demand the random blood test?
“Steroids won’t help Pacquiao beat my son”
so why demand the random blood test?
“I’m the best fighter in the world”
so why demand the random blood test?
Mayweather is a joke and not a man of his word. The random blood test is not a pre-requisit of the NSAC and Pacquaio even agreed to it 24 days before the fight and immediately after the fight in his locker room.
And also regarding about the $10 million if Fraud will exceed to 147lbs. It is reasonable. Why? 141 – 147 is a welterweight, Mayweather was proven a pure cheater when he comes in 2 pounds overweight of the agreed 144lbs. in the Marquez fight. And Mayweather is talking about an even playing field?
I don’t get this website, do they read over articles they publish? This is nothing more then any other boxing forum where one person writes a totally delusional one sided biased article and people comment on it. When an article is written it is supposed to unbiased, cover facts, realistic possibilities and perhaps at the end the writers personal opinion on who might win. This is just garbage and when anybody comes here to read articles it looks bad on the site haulting any chance that Boxing News 24 will ever be taken seriously.
Dave Lahr, whatever you are smoking can you give me some of that?
Another article from boxingnews 24 that is decidedly biased against Pacquaio. Manny bent towards PBF’s unreasonable testing demands and it still wasn’t enough. Why change things Floyd? Your supposed to be the greatest of all time (in your mind anyway) and yet you create this steroid issue and demand special testing. That’s the state athletic commissions job. Just shut up and settle it in the ring. I still think this fight happens around June of this year, they’re just trying to create enough hype to justify a 70$ ppv price tag! Should be interesting to see Floyds next opponent. Who will it be?
@ Holdschool, Pacquiao was struggling to make the weight when he fought that fight @ 135 yet Marquez got beaten. You can talk all the rubbish excuses as much as you can but the fact is the Pacman won. Who do you think would win between Mayweather vs Marquez @ 135…When Marquez fought Mayweather, it was contracted @ 144 but what your idol did? no need to explain!!
How can you say Manny is better then Marquez after watching both there fights? How can a fighter win more rounds, box better and lose both matches? Everyone knows Marquez was robbed of at least 1 victory.
@ Roderick, you’re talking about character? who are the ex-convicts, absolutely not Pacquiao. As far as i know Pacman is God fearing who helps the needy whereas the M ayweathers are the DRUGGIE and woman beater – CONVICTED.
Guess its good for Manny cause he wont be adding another loss to his record but its bad for boxing. The best should fight the best thats why they should make a SupeSix tournement for the Welterweights then nobody can dodge nobody. Who is Manny to decide when he can do the blood tests.
It’s not Pacquiao ducking Mayweather, it’s the other way around. Pacquiao agreed to unlimited random urine tests and blood test 24 days before and another right after the fight so whats’s the problem. Mayweather just looking for a way out period.
Greg are you saying that pac is a 4 round fighter? As good as Judah come on. I think Pac destroys Mayweather in 10 rounds
Boxing is a sport, as you know. There are athletes out there who wants to get the advantage over other competitors. Drug testing should be a must, for million dollar paid athletes. To say, taking less than a teaspoon of blood will make me to weak to fight is “Bull”. So, all you Pac-man fans should really think about your fighter character. Pac-man looks pretty big for a small guy who came up 3 divisions in weight. Look steriods is out there and we all know it. If your clean , you should’nt have nothing to hide.
Box his ears off literally? You do know that that means Pac’s ear would fall off, right? Pac is better than Marquez so why would he lose worse. I agree that Floyd probably wins, but Pac should do at least as well as Zab Judah did.
Dave Lahr’s article only shows how he patronize Floyd Mayweather Jr., not realizing Pacquiao’s ability to adjust on the way his opponents’ tactics and habits when they face in the ring.
Dave, face the facts that Floyd is a coward chicken that only faces fighters with lesser magnitude. He’s not a fair fighter and always looks for something that gives him the advantage whether weight and refusing great fighters like Pacquiao, Cotto and Mosley by humiliating them and asking for incredible demands that even Nevada Commission never mandates.
Advise to all commentators, be fair and be great to become a credible newsmaker.
Wow people! maybe you people forget about Castelo,Judah fight. The only boxer who can beat FMW is those who have a good chin and willing to trade with him. The last time I check, Pacquiao has a verry good chin, and with his speed he can trap FMW. That’s why FMW don’t fight big guys that go forward cause he knows his going to get knock out. If he really is the king like he said he is, then he should wait for the winner of Mosley and Berto. Right now! his nothing but a KFC.
The most rational fans can see that Floyd’s style is a huge problem for Pac. It doesn’t take a genius to see that. Just look at the Marquez fights. This coming from a huge Pacfan myself.
It’s just that Floyd needs to challenge himself instead of picking on fights where he clearly is the favorite. I don’t remember the last fight were he was the clear underdog. The last fight were he was the smaller fighter was with Oscar, and he only agreed to that because of the money and exposure. He wouldn’t dare fight anyone bigger because the reward is way too low and the risk is way too high.
Floyd is a coward. He never wanted the fight from the start. He’s avoiding challenges. A coward.
All you reporters and people that believe Pacquiao needs the money is a joke… You guys seem to have forgetten that Pacquiao does not live in the United States. He lives home in the Philippines where he doesnt need money anymore. He has enough right now to buy each one of his siblings and his father ( who has been in his life until recently) a HUGE Mansions!!!
We; Filipino’s dont have the super expensive real estate prices in Philippines as We have here in the States… Money is no problem for Pacquiao. I’m not commenting anything about the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight but I wished it did happen…
But either way, Pacquiao in my eyes and many Filipinos all over the world believe Pacquiao in him…
I tipped Mayweather to beat Pacman if they had fought as i think Floyd is to good of a boxer to go toe to toe with pacquiao,you only have look back at the Mayweather v Dela hoya to see that floyd just did not wont to mixed it!!!!!, i’ve lost it with Mayweather now and so have a lot of boxings fans, so Floyd retire now with 40/0 but you’ll be remembered for cherry picking and ultimately ducking any one who pose a risk to that tarnish 0.
DELUSIONAL…
Pacquiao is not a good boxer. He is a one dimensional fighter. He is off balance when throwing a punch. But why keeps on winning? Why he keeps knocking guys out? Why oh why? It’s true…hatred and jealousy keeps a fool go blind.
mayweather is a great athlete and an excellent defensive boxer, but this guy has two big problems, 1, the zero on his record has turned into a hump on his back and 2, his bloated ego is now transparent to most of the boxing world. He is a big drama queen flying up to his lofty retirement perch after every fight watching the boxing world go by and only coming down when hes spotted someone he can mug.Pacquiao is not someone he feels he can mug but the massive financial reward would have brought him down of his perch if he could have got a psychological advantage like getting Manny to take the fight too early after the Cotto fight, unfortunately for Mayweather Manny’s team agreed to everything to set the fight up, so now hes nervous the moneys there but the zero is threatened the ego takes over and out of left field comes the blood scenario, this very cleverly casts a dark shadow in Pacquiao’s direction knowing that Manny has said on camera that giving blood weakens him and will reject the Mayweather brainwave, now he has the position hes been after all along Pacquiao will have to fight him at a disadvantage and if he doesn’t he has an excuse not to fight,this guy Mayweather needs some therapy,$40 million down the drain, he needs an operation to remove the ego that’s covering one eye and the zero that’s covering the other, hopefully if they ever meet on a level playing field Pacquiao will straighten it all out.
i dont like both boxers. But Floyd would have given pacman a thumping,, and easy. THe pacman has had foot speed and hand speed advtange over all his pervious apponents. He will not have that with Floyd, anf Floyds accuracy, movement, naterual weight… defense. Pacman out in 3 rounds…
AGREE james,
how can a fighter loose blood throughout the rounds but claims giving blood would weaken him??????
@ james ….well said i agree 100%
OF COURSE HE IS BETTER OFF NOT HAVING TO FIGHT FLOYD, BECAUSE IF HE DID HE WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE TEST AND BE EXPOSED. IN THIS WAY HE CAN DRAG IT OUT AND KEEP FOOLING HIS FANS JUST LIKE HE IS DOING RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE AINT STUPID. THE TRUTH WILL SOON COME OUT.
mate why dont you put a pic of pacman getting knock down 10yrs ago so you can make fun of him. tosser
.. go with fmjr… do the chicken run!!!…
You guys fell a prey to Mr. Lahr designs again.
Did you not realize that he got the attention he wanted by putting Pacquiao again as a subject?
Hahhha..Dave, how much did you get from Floyd to write an article so one sided.Even a 12 year old who reads this will find it so obviously one sided. You and Floyd should get a room in Vegas and think of another article to persuade the boxing community that he is the best p4p boxer out there,which he is not. Perhaps just try to persuade Floyd to start fighting thornier boxers like Mosley.Cotto, or Paul Williams,how’s that Dave?!
@ USMC,
I think Max Kellerman said it and I totally agree, Miguel Cotto didn’t win, Joshua Clottey Lost.
i disagree on this article wrote by dave.. thats only his imagination. may weather will be hospitalized if he fight pacquiao. and pbf knows it thats why he is scared and making a scapegoat to hault the possible fight. pbf must fight mallignaggi but the problem is boxing ring is too small for theme. they must do the fight on track oval so that they can run and run all nightlong.
Funny Article, where are you basing your analysis Dave. The only way Fake Money can possibly win fights is by getting his ways. Cheating on weigh-in and postponing a fight to mentally confuse the other fighter so the training can be set off track. That’s what Fake money tried to do on JMM. He tries to pull that cheap trick on Packman. I have news for you, Money’s trickery no longer works. Fighter and Fans alike are catching on. Few more stunts like JMM, Fake Money will not find fights. He will fade and will end up working for Wal-Mart as a greeter.
Your’e right about Pacman being better off fighting other legit threats but wrong about Floyd dominating Pac. Pacman’s latest fights are in you tube. I suggest you watch it in slow mo and look at how pac throws punches in weird angles. Also, observe why he can take the power punches of his opponents. He moves his head and body away from the punches making it look like he is getting hit hard when its exactly the opposite. Pac doesn’t get the credit for developing his skills in the past three years. Pac is faster than Floyd. Believe in what you see.
Mayweather would have been a 1 on his loss column against PAC.
I would pick floyd to beat pac by UD. But i think pac would hurt floyd in the first couple of rounds.But once floyd gets his timing that would be it.
How can you hit what you cant touch. what floyd is invisible now? you forgot the pacman punches coming on different and many angles and barrage of punches. pbf only way not getting if he runs away of pacman.
Mayweather will be lucky if he gets paid 5 million dollars for his next fight. And I think his next fight won’t be on PPV.
pacquiao’s strategy changes from fight to fight. roach plans and pacquiao executes. so how can you make an analysis based on previous styles coz you pacquiao progresses and change strategies each fight
great article thats why i didnt wanna see that fight coz it will just be target practice for mayweather and im not a fan of him or pacquiao i hope they both loose LOL
pacquiao would destroy mayweather jr and mayweather jr knows it even mayweather snr knows it
Is Pacquiao better off not having fought Mayweather? YES
Cowboys stadium is putting their reputation & HBO PPV backs up Pacquio vs Clottey. Floyd is confirmed on PED. Floyd is f*cked and all that writes for him
I bet floyd will be scared of clottey just by the size of this Ghana.
I think the white elephant in the room during mediations was that maybe these guys both need more time to get this fight together. Mayweather needs another tune-up fight after returing from his lay-off with an easy breezy win over Marquez.
Manny needs another fight after Cotto with the longer goal for Roach to train specifically for a Mayweather fight over the summer. This will be his career-defining fight, I think he and Roach are better served with more time and planning, time to watch tape, to perfect their strategy.
And Floyd will be the one with everything to lose if they step in the ring. Manny came back from the Morales loss with dignity and continued a winning streak that has been nothing if not impressive.
Floyd has never lost, and doesn’t think he ever will. He can ensure that happens by treating every fight like a safe-payday, or he can man up and take on some of the top competitors. The choice is his, and he’s going to make regardless of what we think.
I hope both teams come to the table with rational negotiations and find a way to put “The Fight” together this fall. They both have to win their “in-between” fights though, first, and Clottey is not a washed up fighter by any standards. You might think so since he lost a war to Cotto, and Manny destroyed Cotto, but don’t be so quick to judge.
…ryan
…ryan
You are right Ab
its over weight by 2 pounds when comes at fight night ladyboy might weight over 150lbs. poor JMm so much mayweather advantage. like brian kenny question on ladyboy floyd why not fight for a title with champs like mosley? but ladyboy handpick marquez. what a disgrace
If Manny lost (And that’s a BIG if) but went out on his shield he would remain every bit as popular.
Did Hatton’s fans turn their back on him when he lost to Floyd? No, because Hatton went out fighting. Fighting a ring post with his face perhaps, but still fighting!
(Sorry, couldn’t help myself)
Hey Dave Lahr,
Ok, let’s base it on facts rather than on baseless opinions.
On their last fight.
Ladyboy Floyd fought a bloated 36 yo little JMM, to whom Floydee was still a little bit scared of, so to make sure he gets all the advantages Ladyboy floyd came in the fight over the weight limit. What a scared loser!
While pacman took more risk in fighting a bigger more powerful Cotto.
So where are you basing your opinion that LadyBoyFloyd would win easily against Pacman?
Don’t tell me your $tupid enough to compare a 130lb JMM(w/c is the weight limit when he fought pacman) to a bloated 144lb JMM. Come on no one is that $tupid, $tupid!
You’re like the Chris Matthews of boxing…
Unbelievable! Mr. Lahr, I’ve read better commentary on bathroom walls in third world airports! You contribute absolutely no writing talent to this blog, and your inclusion to the rest of the writers of this column is a travesty!
is this perez brother, i think i think i think,
go away crap reading.
MoR@nic and obviously biased scribbler. Stick to your day job collecting garbage cause this is all this is.
pacman will chow the chickenman
this article is written by a crazy man where are you i think you need to change you glass or you need to wear one
Floyd and Manny blew the opportunity of a lifetime, untainted. Anything after the recent shenanigans will not have the purity of what could have been. I found an article at http://mybadassitude.com that spoke well to both fighters’ attitudes and failings. It is a crying shame but there is still, I believe, some room for repair. Hope it happens.
Golden Boy writer at its best! A helluva of an effort trying to erase Mayweathers latest public image. But it will take a better than this to erase Floyds “Chicken” image. It will take a fight against a fighter his own size and good skills to repair the damaged that he’d done to hiself. For starter GB should match him against Mosley, Margarito, Williams, Cotto or Berto but I doubt whether money man will man up. At this stage of his career, I doubt it.
hey dave lahr…..don’t you think it’s the other way around? scheafer and arum supposed to go to dallas but but scheafer changed his mind in the last minute. why did GBP rejected the COWBOYS STADIUM? because XYLOCAINE is illegal in texas or any other states but nevada. the blood testing issue came out right after the venue has been settled. do mayweather really wants to fight pacquiao? just wondering…
this is hilarious. you maybe right. you maybe wrong. all i can say is, it’s a different thing once they step inside the ring. but can we get over the mp-pbf thing? i am sure we will be all talking about it later this year. thrust me guys. cheers.
The most athlete who take steroids are mostly American athlete. Thanks for Manny he’s not taking on Floyd. Because there’s a lot of good boxer other than PBF. I would rather see Shane Mosley vs Pacquiao. I’m not disappointed for Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because PBF is a defensive & counter puncher so it means he’s a boring fighter.
Good article. You haven’t let dislike for Mayweather or love for Pacquiao stop you from a rational analysis. Pacquiao would get destroyed by Floyd. I think he should retire with a winning streak and not fight Floyd.
Mayweather is NOT a dominat fighter!!! Who says Mayweather is a dominant fighter??? Because of his “0″ losses…
Man the SIMPLE truth is that he wins. That’s NOT to say he is dominant… LOUSY WINS should not be equated for dominance….
I agree with Lou, writer is so biased
I think this guy was lost is the Sahara Desert with no water when he wrote this. I see floyd throwing rights hooks and so on. So what is Pacquiao going to do just stand there like a dummy. I think Pacs work rate is to much for Mayweather who only throws 30 to 50 punches a round.
You got it wrong. Pacquiao would have beaten Mayweather to a pulp.
That is why you get a naturally bigger man asking fairness from a little guy which is so laughable.
That is why Mayweather does not want any part of Pacquiao…ever.
Everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion. Let’s wait and see when Pac Man and Money square off if that will ever happen. Just like what Pac Man said “win or lose he’ll put up a show”. I can tell that this article is totally one-sided.
i think that the article is right in a way ,but we will never know.people can say that floy can out boxed pac and others say that floy would never be able to handle the pressure of manny paquial.Until the fight happens the answer will be answer all we have now is pac vs josh and we should enjoy. From my point of view, floy is a fake because when he faced juan manuel marquez he bigger by nature and he still came with extra punds, and when manny fight juan manuel marquez he was at the right time. people can say that floy is a good skill boxer but he hasent fight a true champ and when he didik who was Osacr de la hoya alot of people taught he lost . he has been ducking big names and has made him self big by his mouth.People have forgot about JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ the only guy who has giving manny paquial a BOXING LEASSON, he did lost to floy but he lasted the 12 rounds with a much bigger man. i think paquial has to fight marquez again but he dosent want to cuz he knwos that fighting marquez is not going to be easy and marquez is going to make hinm look bad and then floy is going to pick a no body and look good and claim his fake king dom. what ever happens with manny im going to support him , it dosent matter if he fight jmm who ever he fights he has always make get out the couch and feel the real boxing sensasion. on the other hnad, floy has put me to sleep . VIVA MANNY AND respect to all my PHILIPINOS . and thks to manny for bringing boxing back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
dave come out from under that rock.
funny article by writer
Did you see the picture of Manny. How much smaller his head and body was? What was that 3yrs ago when he was 27 or 28? Wow.
This writer said his opinion, and we should respect that. It’s also worth noting that his opinion is similar to those of the Mayweather clan, Atlas, Tim Smith, GBP, Paulie M, Cintron. In short, the intellect level among these people are pretty much the same.
I am convinced Floyd is willing to risk losing his zero by fighting Manny but I also think he needs to buy more time, by getting another tune up fight with a 2nd tier guy and make some money in the process. The fight will happen folks. But Floydie will embarrass himself by choosing an old lightweight and schedulin it on the same night Manny w fights a legit welterweight whose got a real chance of beating him. What does that say about old KFC?
If Pacquiao is not a good boxer, why are you even talking about him…
nice photo Dave
Manny’s not better off. I expected him to lose to Floyd, but he would have given it his all. Now that he’s fighting second rate fighters, I won’t even watch Manny fight. Boxing loses and so do the boxers. They don’t understand that yet, but they will.
You guys act like Clottey is a easy win! Pacman may win but it want be easy. I have the much respect for any fighter who steps between those ropes including Mayweather. For all you banwagon jumpers out there needs to understand that no one doubts Floyd skills, what true boxing fans question about Floyd is the opponents he chooses to fight. But most of you Mayweather fans have a problem understanding that. I would love to see Floyd fight but let it be a top true WW! All Floyd recent fights have been guys who stand directly in front of him & much slower. You can say the same about Pacman but I do give hime credit for taking on Cotto but I hate that he ask Cotto to come in at 145lbs. Everyone needs to stop all this BS & fight each other ( Mosley, Floyd, Pacman)! I get sick & tired of these stupid comments about who will do what to who. There’s only one way to find out! Fight one another! Its just that simnple!