Arum: “I don’t see the fight [Mayweather-Pacquiao] happening now”
January 1st, 2010
By William Mackay: Promoter Bob Arum says that he’s been given instructions from his fighter World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao to look for another fight, according to the Mirror. Arum says “We contacted Manny [Pacquiao], and his position is firm, irrevocable. He instructed us to pursue another fight, period. I don’t see the fight happening now.” Arum doesn’t exactly seem optimistic about making the huge potential mega fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao happen.
The fight appears less than appealing, because Foreman isn’t well known to boxing fans. However, Pacquiao is interested in trying to capture an 8th world title, and Foreman may be the easiest way for him Manny to capture a title without too much of a struggle. The other light middleweight champions – Sergio Martinez, Sergeii Dzinziruk and Cory Spinks – are arguably tougher foes.
If Pacquiao does fight Foreman, it will be a huge test to see whether boxing fans are willing to pay to see this. It’s one thing for boxing fans to dish out money watching Pacquiao fight the likes of Oscar De La Hoya, but quite another to see Pacquiao fight the little known Foreman.
It’s rather disappointing to hear Arum sounding so dour about the chances of the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight happening. You would think that Arum, with all his experience as a promoter, would be able to use his considerable persuasion skills to work on getting Pacquiao in the ring.
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i love to see pacman vs mosley fight rather than mayweather he thinks he is the NSAC why he don’t channel he’s blood testing to that said com.. request it after all they are suction by that comm.. is he the above that? what’s mambo jumbo of clean fighter you tell me that NSAC is not able. your just scared and moron
PAC don’t want to fight. He cannot win against a boxer. People are saying that Floyd cherry picks his fighter but what do u think Pac do. He picks a fighter that is going to fight with him. He will beat fighters who want to brawl but a boxer like Floyd he has no shot because u will never find floyd charging in with his chin out. There are other fighters out there that floyd can make good money against so he needs to just move on cause Pac don’t want to fight
juan m.m. beat pac-roid twice !! i dont care what the “official” decision said ..helps to have one of the biggest promoters out there .. floyd totally dominated jmm..not even close…if you all do some soul searching , you know floyd will do the same to manny* …i know , i know ..people want to see mayweather get beat up .. sorry but it aint gonna happen in this fight !! floyd will expose manny for what he is ..a great fighter that looks good as long as you fight him coming forward w little defense !! a washed up eric morales easyly beat manny* fighting him this way..just dont go toe to toe and outbox him..manny* is a very exiting fighter to watch BUT he is not close to the skills of mayweather !!
I lost my 1st fight against Eric Morales because i was weakend by a blood test i took before the fight?
OK, did you beleive that lame excuse? If you did then you are all fools.
The truth is i lost against a past his prime Eric Morales because he was a better fighter than me. I won the 2nd and 3rd fights because he was even more past his prime by then.
Pacquiao will not fight if the blood will be drawn within 3 weeks before the fight’ He had the experienced of losing his first fight 2005 with Eric Morales where 2 days before the fight, he was asked by NSAC for blood to be tested because the blood taken 1 month before was mishandled and they cannot find the record, so another medical test was conducted as per NSAC Medical exam. I can post the TV interview which is in Tagalog,it is uploaded in You Tube. He is not going to enter the ring in disadvantage both physically and mentally. He will rather not have the USD 50 Million than losing the fight.
Also, Mayweather need him for the USD 50 Million. PACMAN is the top draw and he is smart even if he has gone to High School.His earnings in GOOD HANDS, gone to good investment, unlike Floyd who spent his money to gamblings.He is going to bleed Floyd dry on USD 50 Million” . Floyd will need Pacquiao for this rather than Pacquaio, he is in Casino debts in VEGAS and PACQUAIO know this he has information from Gambling people in Vegas.If we include the future court penalties, I think he has to sell his properties.
a lot of heads are still spinning!
…oh yeah thanks to de la hoya for the great ppv, and yet the mainstream media never gave the sport a chance from dying until lately
if paquia had nothing to hide and he knows his going to make millions fighting mayweather then y not take the blood test ever since he lost the first fight to morales he has not loose but evry fighter out there now days that moves up two weight devisions either they loose speed and power and he looks strong and fast thats weird lol
yep boxing flourished in Floyds retirement. Thats why all the PPVs combined in that time was less then Floyds last two fights.
and if floyd don’t get to that fight he will always remain no.2 no matter how good he is. boxing flourished during his retirement and now we have this mess…
oh yeah, there’s a lot of things floating out there to spin your heads and screw your simple minds….
afaid of needles, ask penalties for failing drug test, whatever! things that are very hard to verify.
one thing’s sure….
YOU’RE NOT GETTING YOUR ‘FIGHT OF THE CENTURY’!
keep on your focus on that needle!
spin your head, people, spin your head!!!!
Why did Pacquiao’s representatives ask what penalties he would face for a dirty drug test? And if it could be kept from the public? Why would you worry about the repurcussions of a dirty test if you are clean? Oh, I guess Mayweather must be scared since Manny is walking away from the biggest fight ever.
keep your focus on the needle! and never let it go from your sight.
and you’ll never see the truth that you don’t need any needle at all to do this figtht!!!! as a matter of fact, you don’t need any needle to do any fight in las vegas!!
agree????? or your head still spinning????
still confuse on why your not getting your ‘fight of the century’?
———————————————————-if i’m really idealistic and believe that my sport, after so many decades, needs a NEW METHOD OF TESTING, should i just demand it later on a lower paying bout and just take this $40m paycheck fight???
or
if the NEW METHOD OF TESTING that i want is preventing me from getting into that $40m paycheck fight, should i just let go of that NEW METHOD OF TESTING,take the fight, collect my $40m, and just demand that NEW METHOD OF TESTING on my next, low paying bout???
…UNLESS…
UNLESS I REALLY DON’T WANT THAT $40 MILLION FIGHT!!!
now, if i really don’t want that $40m fight, how can i spin everybody’s head so that it would not look like i’m ducking the fight???
It is apparent that most of u will believe what u want and not the facts. Pac have gotten everything he wanted. He should be begging to do the blood test so the fight will get done. He got the gloves , the money and the ring. The advantage go to pac right! But u don’t pull the trigger for 40 million because the little needle going to get u. Lol, thats funny as hell. PAC running like hell
Biggest grossing fight ever and a record 3.5 million PPV buys involved Mayweather, not Pacquiao.
supreme idiot
I think you should have to take a blood test in order to post a comment here
Do some of u really believe that a blood test 14 days before the fight will hurt u. If Pac would agree to that then the fight would be on. He don’t want to fight cause if he did he would agree, take the test and fight. Nothing says F#&k the Mayweathers like a a&& wooping in the ring . But he knows he has no shot
I don’t believe Pacquiao is or has been using anything illegal to gain advantages. But if this Mayweather bout doesn’t come off either in March or in the near future, big question marks will hang over his head. Yes people will always say Mayweather tried to force it on him, he tried to change the rules and what have you, but Pacquiao still refused the blood tests for whatever reason. Mayweather backed off his demands quite considerably, but it seemed Arum and Pacquiao didn’t really budge, even after the 24/7 clip showed Manny having a blood test within 30 days of the Hatton bout.
If Manny fights and beats Foreman next, will everyone agree that this is a blatant cherrypick? Mayweather gets a lot of stick for it, why doesn’t Pacquiao?
its not the olympic style testing its the giving blood part that manny cant stand. its giving it before his fight he is worried about.point the finger all u want but u want to fight at your best regardless of the type of test. thats physically and especially mental too.
Who endorses Floyd with any cred ?
After all, that’s where the real money(s) at. You can make 40 Mill on one fight but as Floyd knows it. That disappears pretty quickly. Years go by and you get old, nobody will remember you. if you were branded by Adidas, Nike, Reebok or whoever. That money rolls into your bank account as you sleep.
Anyone see Nike’s shoe for Pacman …
@ Real Guest
I cede to you the point on PPV based on the Marquez/Cotto angle. However, it’s my humble opinion that Pacquiao is where the interest of the boxing public is currently, moreso than Mayweather. Certainly who they each take on in their next bouts will have a heavy impact on where more money is spent.
I still think it insane of PBF to pass up the money based on the PED accusation.
real guest must know all of marquezs followers lol
And you people still dont belive that Pacman might be juicing… Mayweather has given in to Pac once again about the Olympic Style Testing and dropped it. Saying he just wants random teseting, and Pacquaio is still against it… Any boxer that fights Pacquaio is a fool or just plainly wants a paycheck…Why do you need to know when the drug test is gonna be, so you can just cycle your steroids around the date… Thats the point of a random test….Pacquaio is a cheat!!!!!!!!
To supreme court:
Fsjr is correct Manny is the biggest draw in PPV right now. Latest figures from HBO Floyd jr/JMM fight one million PPV buys; Pacquiao/Cotto one million two hundred fifty buys, got it? Do some checking first. GOOGLE
mayweather vs de la hoya took more than pacquaio vs de la hoya
mayweather vs hatton took more than pacquaio vs hatton
compare the mayweather vs marquez to pacquiao vs cotto and pacquiao vs cotto took more money by a small amount and onlt because marquez doesnt pull in as many buys as cotto!
WHO IS FLOYD FIGHTING NEXT? I heard from the Mayweather camp that Floyd is very interested in fighting on the next Olympics. That’s a level ground for him. By the way, The Spurs refuse to play the Lakers unless they all take the Olympic drug testing regimen. If the Lakers refuse then that’s the proof that they are on something. (Mayweather’s misguided logic). Come on folks. It’s simple logic. PacMan is not afraid of needles. He never said that. He is not afraid of getting his blood drawn. He just believes that 30 days into and just after the fight should be sufficient in accordance with established guidelines. If Manny is to give the opportunity for Floyd for a $40 mil paycheck, then Floyd doesn’t dictate the rules – the boxing commission does that – unless Floyd doesn’t really want the fight in the first place. Either way you question Floyd’s logic. Maybe, Floyd is on something he can’t even think straight.
@ guest
you are a c**k sucker!
Pacquiao vs. Cotto – 1.25 million PPV buys
Mayweather vs. Marquez – 1 million PPV buys
Now means now. Comparing PPV of common opponents in years past would not constitute now, current or present.
Liar is a bit harsh, don’t you think?
well media is also the key for motivation, yes or no? your saying that the media & experts can hype things and be wrong but your stating what about pacman? hes a cheater? Hes ducking? i dont know what you are stating.
SO YOU PEOPLE WAKE UP ALREADY???
OR YOUR STILL CONFUSED AND YOUR HEAD STILL SPINNING????
keep on spinning your heads!!
so you won’t realize that the THE NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT is meant to screw your simple minds! you will never realize that this test is not needed to make up this fight, because you are fools and you get what you deserve!
while your distracted and confuse about this test that i created, i’ll slip on my way out of this fight!
YOUR NOT GOING TO GET THE FIGHT THAT YOU WANTED! I’M NOT GIVING THAT TO YOU!
Fsjr: you are a liar; Can you compare the ppv about similar fighters they fought?
Mayweather is the draw
To supreme court:
Just “google” Manny Pacquiao and it will answer more than half of your questions. Obviously you are a new fan of boxing and you dont know much. FYI the first guy Manny beats in the US is a champion from Africa yes he is a black guy. Manny didnt fight a lot of them black guys because you cant find alot of them in lower divisions. There are a lot of from jr welter to heavyweights. Further info Manny is a holder of fOUR LINEAL CHAMPIONSHIPS BELT(The man who beats the man who beat the man)a world record.Please dont shoot from the mouth do some checking first by simply googling.
appolagize for hurting u with that policy line did not realize what i wrote. police shmolicy its a sham! honestly i dont see there being a reason for one and i dont see no reason for manny to take or not to take it. but if he is saying he feels uncomfortable with it then he should not do it. sorry u cant change the mind as easy as u may think it is. the testing at the end of the fight is more than enough to prove mayweathers accusations win or lose. hes just scared to fight is how i see it. if manny is indeed a “walk in the park” why the bs!
Forget P4P. Fact is, PacMan is the biggest draw in boxing right now. PBF’s mouth can run all it wants, but the money is all about PacMan now.
Cali: Didnt the so-called expert say Pavlik will wack Hopkins? yes or no?
Didnt they say Margarito will crush Mosley? Yes or know?
Didnt the Media raised a plumber to the level of a star during a presidential campaign? Yes or No?
Didnt the same media send Joe the Plumber to IRAK to report the …war? Yes or NO?
What does all the above tell you?
pound for pound is simply as it is! the best pound for pound! your telling me that he aint the best in the past divisions that he fought in? and that ring experts think manny is a joke! your right he does not stay in a division long enough but no one just gives u that tittle its earned! and who r u declaring as the p4p king?
First of all, it is not a “new drug policy”.
get your fact straight!
guest u r too funny! it does make a whole lot of sense all though it is a sad but realistic accusation. i feel the same way. im not a fan of either guys but i love boxing and this is the worst time to start a new drug testing police its a joke for the mayweather camp to pull this stunt. now! at this moment! when the greatest fight ever can happen!
slip away coward slip away!
uhhhh! (slip away may)
How can someone be the p4p king whe he is not even the best at any of the divisions?
Current p4p king? Which division is he the best fighter? name one!
@ guest,
repeating yourself doesnt make your point any more relevent. it just makes you look like youve just learned how to copy and paste.
spin your heads, foolish people, spin your heads!
don’t take your focus on the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT to mess up your simple minds.
while your confuse and distracted i’ll slip my way out of this fight!
i hope you won’t realize that the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT is not necessary to make this fight FOR this fight can happen without such testing, you fools! i just created it to mess up with your simple minds!
you know whats funny is that mayweather is former p4p, former! if he wants that back he should go thru mannys rules. so if yu really want to talk about comprimising i think pacman is doing it. but mayweather wants to fight at his weight and his this and his drug association, on his rules. not fair to the current p4p king. mayweather does not want the p4p he wants money and to keep his crappy legacy wich is just a undefeated one. lex u seem to have forgotten that manny is fighting and knocking guys out and down. also submitting them. regardless of the age and whose lost a step or gained one. you accept the fight for the competition. like i said the problem is how far in towards the fight will the random blood testing take place. Pacman is not ducking as much as floyd is cuz floys could just retract that type of testin as easy as manny can accept iy, if he wants to make the fite work and besides the blood and urine test at the end of the fite would suffice because if floyd does lose and many is guilty of enhancment drugs then that blemish would be wiped off. and he still would of gotten paid! manny just wants the regular testing thats all… the way i see it is floyd is the card holder, the dealer, and the one with the best hand in negotiations, but he is ducking
Why cant he take the blood test?
What is the latest excuse?
im just wondering if anyone would agree that regardless of what happens between mayweather and pacquiao that the way boxers are tested for illegal performance enhancing drugs should be changed so that random blood tests are taken during the training period for a fight or even throughout the year. that includes testing manny pacquiao, floyd mayweather jr and every other boxer out there. ARE YOU WITH ME PEOPLE?! lol
now, if i really don’t want that $40m fight, how can i spin everybody’s head so that it would not look like i’m ducking the fight???
let me see..hmmm….
bingo!
I’LL STIR THE CROWD, PUT THEIR FOCUS ON THE OTHER GUY, TAUNT AND P### HIM OFF UNTIL HE WALKS AWAY, AND I’LL SLIP MY WAY OUT BEHIND!
spin your head, people, spin your head!
….and don’t look my way. keep your focus on that other guy on why he doesn’t want to take the NEW METHOD OF TESTING that i demanded him to take!
spin your head all the rest of your foolish lives!
AND I SEE YA ALL IN MY NEXT FIGHT WITH A NEW GUY!
if i’m really idealistic and believe that my sport, after so many decades, needs a NEW METHOD OF TESTING, should i just demand it later on a lower paying bout and just take this $40m paycheck fight???
or
if the NEW METHOD OF TESTING that i want is preventing me from getting into that $40m paycheck fight, should i just let go of that NEW METHOD OF TESTING,take the fight, collect my $40m, and just demand that NEW METHOD OF TESTING on my next, low paying bout???
…UNLESS…
UNLESS I REALLY DON’T WANT THAT $40 MILLION FIGHT!!!
now, if i really don’t want that $40m fight, how can i spin everybody’s head so that it would not look like i’m ducking the fight???
spin your heads, people, spin your heads!
don’t take your focus on the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT to mess up your simple minds.
while your confuse and distracted i’ll slip my way out of this fight!
Manny Pacquiao = Fraud = cheater
@ Lex
So under your theory, PacMan has looked worse against common opponents, fought less talented; all the while on PEDs. And Money Mayweather demands blood tests or no fight for at least $25 million? To me, that makes him Moron Mayweather.
Let’s think out of the box here: Why can’t the powers-that-be just legitimize the use of steroids? That would make it an even field. LoL.
More cherry-picking by Manny. when asked to explain how he had tattoes after he said he wouldn’t give blood because he was afraid of needles, he didn’t explain at all but said he had a superstition and wouldn’t give blood within 30 days of a fight. When asked why he gave blood less then 30 days before his fight against Hatton, he again has refused to answer and just told his promoter to get him a different fight- against an easy opponent. Manny has been scared to death of Floyd. Floyd has fought much better opposition and performed much better than Pacquiao. Pacquiao fought Barrera and Morales after they had been boxing forever and in so many all out wars and weren’t even close to their old level. Samen thing with de la hoya. And the one good fighter Manny fought, JMM, beat him twice! Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Baldomir, a younger and talented de la hoya, an undeafeted Hatton. And since his two fights with JMM, the public and JMM were all wanting a rubber match and Manny ran and ducked him. Mosley has been calling him out and Manny has been ducking and dodging. Now the public and Mayweather are wanting Manny and he’s running scared again.
Unless you have comparative samples blood and urine the tests will not be accurate anyway, That is why multiple tests are done, because as of lately the only way to prove steroid use other than someone admitting the use is to see the levels of testosterone and estrogen that the body is creating. You must have a baseline to compare this to. And of course different agencies use different standards.
look i dont like either fighters but it seems that as easy as yall are saying “just take the the test” the way that mayweather wants! no one is saying its just as easy for him to retract and just go with the norm of boxings test. and there is some grounds to where as Roach being a genius in picking fights but he aint ducking mayweather plus here is an idea! if not pacman fight cotto!. u cant screw with peoples mindsets on how they feel about certain things. manny has problems giving blood and the reg that mayweather wants is random testing leading up to fight night common this is where the problem is. its not about records for manny! as u can tell he has losses… he fights and knocks his opponents down n out even the naturally bigger ones thats impressive. it seems that pacman has a go take it attitude and mayweather has a come take it attitude in the ring. Ya mayweather fought hatton and delahoya too but because of his style it made for crappy fights.. common just watch the marquez fight again! i bet i couldnt pay anyone to sit thru that boring ass fight again. i think mayweathers undefeated record is what holds him high within ranks now a days and thats all, people just pay for his fights to watch him lose. mayweather has speed, a defensive specialist as well, and is tactical but is a defensive fighter. pac is fast, strong, tactical, and still has great defense also. but he is an offensive fighter whats that old saying “offense puts fans in the seats but defense wins games”. if you wanna waste time? Pay for a mayweather fight! if you want action packed like most people, pay to watch pacman! and if this fight does happen though. what r u paying for? and only depending on who mayweather fights next, if its not pacman, he will not bring a huge following because of his style… even if pacman fights the slightly unknown foreman its a david goliath match up. plus a record eight tittles in eight different weight classes! wow! thats more impressive and pac will make around 10 mil just on the purse alone, not to mention the proceeds of pay per view. that would make up for the mayweather fiasco. their styles r completely different but their legacy r far from next to each other. the way i see mayweather gettin paid is to fight the somewhat bigger names… fight cotto and see if your following makes a bigger mark than that of pacman vs cotto. that would be interesting to see. not the fight but the stats.
i think its funny that manny woshipers would say ‘floyds cherry picking’if he fought this bum..go ahead take the easy fight ..i have other sports to watch…pac can take the bum of the month club as far as im concerned…most people want to see a one sided fight where someone gets beaten to a pulp ..id rather see a competetive fight with BOTH sides having great skills !! dont watch these farces and certainly dont ppv them !!
@ orgas
pac submitted a urine test, not a blood test. so once again its a useless test since so many drugs dont come up in urine and since he is not even training for a fight at this moment why would he take steroids anyway. random blood and urine tests are the way forward for boxing.
You’ve got to question PBF’s sanity. Here’s a fight he doesn’t have to promote and would probably clear $25-30 million for himself. With his defensive skills, running and patented bend from the waist right and backwards, odds are pretty good for a 12 round decision to either man. How does a guy that is so good defensively pass on a fight for that kind of money because he wants to allege PED use? Simply, simply crazy.
I think that people forget to go back and look at the records, Floyd has only faced about 4-5 opponents that are considered worthy and like most fighters pick the opponents that will get them an edge, but will not railroad, this is the tactics of the game and life…only dumb ones go against a better person, and don’t forget also PAC has submitted to a recent Drug test that was flown to Manila for testing, did anyone hear of testing done on Mayweather’s part, recently.
the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT keeps me away from the ring with that other guy. i know he’s not going to dignify a demand that is based on malicious insinuation nor is he stupid enough to take what he’s not required to take.
keep on spinning your head people!
i hope you won’t realize that the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT is not necessary to make this fight. this fight can happen without such testing, you fools! i just created it to mess up your minds!
you wanted this fight so much so you deserve all this things. i screwed all your brains, spinned your heads, and take you all for a ride!
If manny is on roids then I want to see more boxers on roids because he fights the way boxing should be
CHAMP
why should manny fight marquez back up your statements even if he lost so what
@ mike litoris
why would i represent mayweather in court? im not a fan of his. was actually disgusted when he came in over the weight for marquez. would love him to get knocked out actually, but in a fair fight against a clean apponement. is that much to ask? there is no smoke without fire in my opinion. all pacquiao did was fan the flames of the fire. why wouldnt you agree to a test that your apponent will also take? if you are scared that it will weaken you then you would also think that it would have to weaken your apponent wouldnt you? im more of a fan of the way manny fights than of the way mayweather fights to be honest, but mostly i am a fan of boxing. with the doubts in my mind about manny, how could i or anyone else with doubts watch anymore of his fight?
the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT keeps me away from the ring with that other guy. i know he’s not going to dignify a demand that is based on malicious insinuation nor is he stupid enough to take what he’s not required to take.
keep on spinning your head people!
now, i can think about my next opponent, somebody that i chose myself instead of being chosen for me.
pacquiao should fight marquez everybody knows marquez beat him twice why not fihgt for the third time to see who the better fighter is..
Sure @ anonymous aka ‘supreme idiot’…
You’re THE best. You’re The coolest. You’re AWESOME.
How the hell can I answer any of your lame questions when they’re all speculative and hypothetical ?
I don’t know why Manny didn’t take the tests. I’m not Manny, why don’t you ask him.
You make it sound like you personally know The truth of these matters. Do you know the answers to all your great questions ? If so, you should represent Fraud in court. He needs guys like you that KNOW EVERYTHING…
the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT messed up everybody’s mind. while everybody’s confuse and distracted i’ll slip my way out from this fight. it’s a fight that i never ask for and i just got suck up into it because of what the public wants.
spin your head and never take away your focus from that NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT. let it mess up your mind!
i hope you won’t realize that the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS FIGHT is not necessary to make this fight.
hahaha
spin your heads all the rest of your foolish lives!
Are you God that you could state with such certainty that the Pacman is innocent. Do you personally know this man to defend him unconditionally?
now they asked ‘what happened to the fight?’
i spinned their heads so fast they didn’t even realize there wasn’t really any fight at all!
i ride along with what the public wants and took them for a ride myself.
spin your head, people, spin your head!
if i am a fighter and i’m offered $40million paycheck in just one night of battle, why would i make things hard for the fight to take place?????
why would i demand a NEW WAY OF TESTING in a $40m paycheck fight, something that i’ve never done before on all of my previous fights, even to those where i only earned a million $ or less ??
if i’m really idealistic and believe that my sport, after so many decades, needs a NEW METHOD OF TESTING, should i just demand it later on a lower paying bout and just take this $40m paycheck fight??
or
if the NEW METHOD OF TESTING that i want is preventing me from getting into that $40m paycheck fight, should i just let go of that NEW METHOD OF TESTING,take the fight, collect my $40m, and just demand that NEW METHOD OF TESTING on my next, low paying bout??
…UNLESS…
UNLESS I REALLY DON’T WANT THAT $40 MILLION FIGHT!
now, if i really don’t want that $40m fight, how can i spin everybody’s head so that it would not look like i’m ducking the fight?
God forgive for saying this, but Michael Jackson molested children and settle lawsuits out court. There were more than a few cases. He fans still claim his is innocence without ever known this man in person.
Do you believe Michael Jackson?
Personally i cant wait for him to retire and become president of the filipines. Lets see how much the pinoys love him after he has run their country further into the ground. After all, he is incapable of thinking for himself, thats why he has Freddie Roach and Bob Arum…. im guessing one of them will be vice president of the filipines
@ mike litoris
funny how you refuse to answer the questions…. truth is you cant without your whole world falling apart. Manny Pacquiao is only a human being, just a boxer. He can lie and cheat on his wife and he can use steroids. He is not a god to worship, i guess that since michael jackson died you need someone else to adhore lol
Pacroid you sound like Anthony Hopkins in the movie “Fracture” lol
Boxing Fan, the reason Floyd won’t give Shane Mosely a shot is because Floyd chased Mosely for 5 years while Mosely was on top, but Mosely always told him “NO”.
Its funny how the tide has turned. He is returning the favor!
Roach won’t allow Pacquiao to fight Mosely because Mosely can’t meet him at 140!
I take steroids and so what. Prove it!!!!
Pacman will make 60M, Arum will take 30M, Floyd will make 230M and keep 230M “Genius”
i cant see manny move up 2 154, its too much for the little fellow, he should just fight 1 of the other top welters, id pay 2 see that like
Lol ridiculous, people should really think before posting replies lol omg!!!
@Supreme Idiot,
Whoa, you got my nickname ! Hooray !
You’re an idiot, I don’t need to answer your questions just like Manny doesn’t have to comply with ‘Frauds’ new rules. Let the governing bodies ask for such and if Manny refuses them, then we can all call Manny a fraud. Until that happens you’re just another idiot regurgitating other peoples crap and supporting a looser with a nickname such as ‘Pretty Boy’, Money May’. You know ‘Izzz Gots my own jetts’. Dudes ebonics is funny to listen to though, I’ll give him that…
boxing fan that seems like an incredibly biased statement, the reason he didnt fight shane is because he knew he could make about 4 times more money fighting pac.
Now if shane beats berto and floyd still refuses to fight him with seemingly no better options on the table then i will agree that he is ducking him.
Sugar shane challenged mayweather before pacman why did he not take the fight because he knows he cant WIN and now he is turning this fight into a circus manny does not need him and all the mayweather fans are getting upset and instead of putting the blame on pretty boy they are accusing the opponents do the PBF fans want to see a fight or not who cares about the blood tests
Mike (C)Litoris : Why dont you anwer my questions instead of attacking me personally?
It is a debate….If you claim not to be an idiot, then provide an answer….
how could you guys go as low as the mayweathers????
1st you tell the public that the guys that pacquiao figts were 2nd rate then the others were already beaten by floyd Jr.,one was a old the other was damaged goods.
now you you accuse him of taking PEDs because he won those fight with those great boxers it sounds so contradicting.
ignorance have tarnished a legacy of a humble man.
1st it was steriods
then when urine test was proven enough
then there came other things especially the HGH
hormones for muscle growth???
that would take days before the fight to be effective
and why use it when at the weigh-in you would want to trim down
i dont get it
i wish pacquiao retires so boxing would lose someone that has helped the sport back up to the top.the people around boxing from the very start has maligned and tried to discredit the man then now tries to tarnish his legacy.
pacquiao has nothing to prove.he has never tested + to PEDs.he has done what only could dream about.he is now a wealthy man.
on floyd jr. you have the skills and the advantage in height,reach etc. you say your far superior than pacman.
now what level playing field are you asking for???why go out of NSAC regulation when you boasted that you were far superior??you’ve ruined the sport of boxing.you should also retire to let it be revived by other fighters.with you in it all the damaging things you’ve done will never be forgotten.
and floyd
to us fans boxing is not a business
it is a SPORT
All in All fans, the absolute easiest thing to do would have been for Pacquiao to negotiate a compromise and prove the world wrong with the accusations. Instead, Manny decided to take the most difficult way around that will DESTRYOY his name, his LEGACY, and BOXING all in one fall swoop!
A stupid lawsuit!!! Sign the fight and take the test, then sue!!!Hell, If you are clean, then I would support you!
True Pac could make that money this year; however were talking that kind of money in 36 minutes do you know a man in his right mind who would pass on that?
I must be way off stating Mayweather is a guranteed HOF fighter. I dare you to argue that. If you can’t see that you need to go find another sport to follow. Your personal feelings aside you can not deny this man that. Second the very man who is calling the fight off ARUM is the same guy who paraded floyd around as the next Sugar Ray Leonaard while he was in his stable but now that he doesn’t work for him he just a thorn in his side.
pacman will make 30 million USD this year with or without mayweather
Pac’s lovestruck fans keep on singing the same tune — that nobody thought he can beat ODLH, that Hatton was naturally bigger, that Cotto was stronger. Truth of the matter is Roach knows how to pick them. Cherry-picking at its finest. Roach is a genius.
I’d like to hear the Pacnutlickers answer Supreme Court’s questions. How come Pac never attempt to unify a belt? Pac is a fake, albeit a very convincing one.
mayweather a hall of famer? what a JOKE he aint one yet
he is a great fighter!! will continue to dominate! Peace
I don’t know maybe a real legacy with a true HOF fighter or a difference of about $30 million. HMMMMMMM something is fishy here and if you can’t see it good luck with your future kid.
TSTRIP why fight undefeated mayweather when you can fight undefeated foreman for a 8TH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP sorry to mayweather fans but he is the true DUCKER
A case by whom boxing fan? Because I have a perspective? R I G H T!!!!! Thats exactly the merit Pacquiao’s case has. NONE!!!
And all of you Pacheads and media judging Floyd because of the sins of his parents and family, you can’t choose your parents, nor is there choice in choosing your family. Those of you that do not have a questionable family member please throw the first stone!!!
I come from a pretty upper middle class background and I have relatives that we must keep under surveilance!
Any stone thrown at Mayweathers’ character is fair play because he is the one entering the ring.
Duck Duck and anyone else Manny fights is the goose. Talk about hand picking them Malinaggi and Yuri Foreman come on. If it’s not SSM or PBF I could care less to see Pac fight on, go ahead and become a crooked politician cause your career is becoming a huge question mark.
bodybuilder pure speculation,you are judging without proof you might just find yourself in a court case of your own
@Supreme Court,
Get a hold of yourself…
It’s just a fight dude. Why are you so emotionally attached to this fiasco ? Don’t you have better things to do than sit on here and wait for other idiots to try and challenge your so called authority. Who cares what you know, who cares what I know. It’s not our fight and again IT’S JUST A FIGHT…
Get a hold of yourself.
do you think manny even cares if he is p4p king he just steps into the ring to fight
You will notice that all my questions will remains unanswered….at least untill I leave the forum, then PacROID fan will emerge from the bush…..
WHAT A HISTsORICAL FRAUD MANNY PACROID IS!!!
manny has not been EXPOSED he is clean refusing to have to deal with mayweather’s attempt to spread rumours does not mean he is using roids hence the court case
Can anyone name a previous p4p king who had never unified a division, or at least held 2 belts?
Can anyone tell us why he is not responding to Mosley’s challenge, now that the Mayweather fight has fallen apart?
Can anyonr tell us why for 14 years he hhas not faced a Black fighter? Mayweather is just the straw that breaks the camel’s back….
CAn anyone attempts to explain why Manny PacROID has never faced a fellow beltholder for 15 years?
Boxing fans: he challenged him to EXPOSE HIM.
And MANNY PAROID has been EXPOSED!
As long as he doesnt take a random blood test, the word DRUG will stick like the stench of a corpse…
Manny PACROID HAS BASED HIS WHOLE CAREER IN CHERRY-PICKING
HE has never faced a fellow belt holder for 15 years!!!!!!
The strategy has been to look for the weakest link in the 7 divisions.
Amir Kahn is now using the same strategy. Guess what? They Both have the same trainer: Freddie Roach…
I think foreman offers more for pac then clottey or margarito or paulie but its still a blah fight. I give him credit for moving up but would much rather see him fight martinez, i wont pay to see this one, sorry bob.
As far as the berto/shane winner goes floyd will get first opportunity there not pac because of the GBP connections and if floyd accepts that fight (who knows if he would) then i dont see pac having a lot of other great options. Maybe paulie, maybe JMM but neither of those would be very appealing.
supreme court why did mayweather challenge manny, dont challenge him if he obviously cant beat him
zharker: you are making a fool of yourself.
You just suggested the Mayweathers know what they are talking about!
Even if we accept your very poor correlation attempt: If the mayweathers are well in drugs, then they know whoelse is taking drugs……
See the drift of the Court?
Are Roger and Floyd Sr going to get in the ring and take Manny’s ‘Juiced” Punches.
The visual evidence says Pacman is guilty. His magical increase in KO power says he’s huilty. He refusal to take the most advance random tests says he is guilty.
@Boxing Fan, ABSURD?…ABSURD?
Asking for a random blood test is absurd?
Is $10M per pound over absurd?
8 oz gloves could be absurd to Mayweather because of his hands but he still said YES!
A table spoon of blood is ABSURD????
NO, Arum, Ariza, Roach, and you are absurd!!!!
I just dont get it….. and i dont know how Pacquaio fans could disagree on this either. Why does Pacquiao want to fight Yuri Foreman? Could it be that he is the weakest of the light middleweight champions? why not Sergio Martinez? Or at welterweight why not Mosley? or at light welterweight why not Bradley? Even at lightweight he faught the weakest champion, David Diaz. I give Pacman respect for beating Hatton but Hatton was never that hard to hit anyway. And Cotto, well, he was railroaded into putting his title on the line and had to fight at a weight that he didnt really want. Yet when Mayweather wants Pacquiao to do something he wont agree to it. Even though Mayweather agreed to 8 oz gloves and $10.000.000 for every lb over weight limit.
The smart move for Floyd would have been to “juiced” himself take the money and move on. NO doubt Pacman is a cheat and Floyd is a coward.
Read this. Who is more believable and who is got a clean record.
In 1993, Floyd Sr. was convicted for drug trafficking and jailed for five years. He was also guilty of smuggling cocaine in boxes of laundry detergent.
In 2006, Roger Mayweather also started a riot when he attacked Zab Judah during a bout with Floyd Jr. He was fined $200,000 and suspended for year. He was also jailed for six months
In 2007, Floyd Mayweather Sr. also found out in that he fathered a 19-year-old light middleweight by name of Jones. The teenager contacted Floyd Sr. because of comments from his friends and relatives that he has resemblance to the Mayweather family. He then requested Mayweather if he would take a DNA test. The DNA test proved positive.
In August 2009, Roger Mayweather was arrested in Las Vegas for attacking one of his former female boxers. Mayweather allegedly hit her several times in the ribs, then tried to choke her, causing her to spit up blood when police arrived. In a interview with HBO, Roger later admitted to choking St. Vil in an effort to restrain her, but denied that he physically struck her.
Police has also search the Rolls Royce car of Floyd Mayweather Jr., who was speculated to be involved in a shooting incident outside the Crystal Palace Skating Center in Las Vegas in August 2009.
The accusation of Pacquiao using performance enhancing drugs should be viewed in light of the family background of the Mayweathers. It is worth noting that the issue of steroid use was first brought up by Senior Mayweather, who has been jailed for drug smuggling and trafficking.
Manny Pacquiao, has never tested positive for any drugs, or ever been in trouble with the law and has instructed Arum to file a slander case on the Mayweather camp for ruining his name and reputation and issuing statements without clear evidence. Let’s stop all this “blood testing” requirements and use the Nevada Commission to do all the drug testing, get the fight signed and get Mayweather’s mouth shut once and for all.
Wow..wow…wow
Elloco, Pacman wenf from a decent puncher to a killer. Fighting bigger and better guys.
He went from 55% to 80% KO ratio. Not only that he took Cotto Power shot just for fun “to taste his power” according to his own words. No wonder Floyd is asking for the most advanced “random” tests. Manny expose himself and did see it. And Random means random. I hope they never fight.
I still got Football where everybody takes something, but a least there is some level playing field as they are all cheats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U7BwA65I0o
Bottom line, who is Fraud to dictate anything ? He and his team aren’t the boxing commission. Manny has complied with everything asked from him from the proper governing bodies. Just because Fraud has asked for Manny to kiss his ass, should Mnany do it …
In the “Bloodtestgate”, you may have noted a lot of inconsistencies from Team Pacquiao: Needles, superstition, Blood Sample within 30 days….
Ask yourself this: why do they feel necessary to lie?
Then add the following piece of information: There is a precedent about Manny Pacquiao’s trainer, Fredie Roach. One of his fighter had been coaught on STEROIDS while he was TRAINING him: JAMES TONEY!!!!!!
You see my drift?
Why is that piece of information hidden from the public?
mayweather challenged manny to this fight which he gladly excepted now mayweather is asking for absurd stipulations from manny, if he does not want to fight or is scared of manny due to steroid accusations than dont challenge manny this is boxing and mayweather needs to put up or shut up
Pat, NO…Manny has brought shame and disgrace to the sport of boxing!
Boxing will now be viewed like baseball and Manny is Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens.
There is an *asterik next to everything he has done!
Larry….I hear you friend but the sad truth hear is right now they do need each other and boxing needs them to produce this fight even more. They need to sort this once and for all otherwise both of their legacy will be tarnished and that’s a fact no one can disagree with. people will always question which fighter was the best and neither of them will have cemented that. Shame it really is!!!!
Pat, it’s because when something doesn’t make sense it probably isn’t real. Turning down $40 – $50 Million dollars for a tablespoon of blood has an underlying reason.
Then Pacquiao come back and say 2 weeks before the fight you will agree to be tested? You are hiding something….No question about it!
I fault Roach and Ariza!!! The biggest and slimiest crooks in the business.
there is a first time for everything
Body builder you said it fella 100% it absolutely has to happen!!!!
Pacman doesn’t nees Mayweather. If FMJ wants drug tests to get in the way of a 40 million dollar payday than obviosly he doesn’t want to fight. Pacman will keep doing what he’s doing fighting the bigger men. Will FMJ continue to fight smaller guys or will he finally step up and fight guys who are legit 147lb challengers. Manny never tested positive so why all of a sudden these assumptions. You know the saying about assuming. Who feels like one now without a 40 million dollar payday. Manny doesn’t need the money but we all know FMJ has financial issues that will only get worse with the lawsuit. Everyone can see that FMJ will lose the lawsuit as well. Manny and steroids was created by FMJ and his people and they spoke recklessly about it now Manny has called their bluff. Floyd NO MONEY Mayweather
I cannot believe the amount of people who are now questioning Pacquiao’s legacy! I think it is a disgrace to see a guy like Mayweather (who is one of the best defensive fighters of all time) use a different standard for this fight. It is a matter of principle that Manny stood up to this request. He said he would be bloodtested right after the fight which would be sufficient but Floyd and his entourage had to impose their will. Because I want to see this fight in the worst way I wish Pacquiao just allowed Floyd to have his way but I certainly don’t blame him. YOu can not accuse him of taking PED’s without any proof!! For some of you bringing up the fact about his knockout ratio’s…c’mon! The man improved dramatically and he kept his speed and power while moving up in weight class…I am sickened because this boxing idol who has brought love back to the sport has to have his rep dragged thru the mud because of Golden Boy promotions and Mayweather. It makes me want to puke. If this fight is not made it will put a dagger into the heart of the sport. Please make this for the fans!
MANNY PACQUIAO is the biggest FRAUD in boxing history. This is not a hate post: I am going to demonstrate my point.
First, lets start with some background: when was the last time in history an athlete (any) has turned down 40 millions upon a request of a tablespoon of blood?
When was the last time allegations of doping against an athlete displaying awsome performances have proven wrong?
That said, below is the other side of Pacquiao records. The side no one dare to mention, we now know why: fear of lawsuits and financial interests…
* For 14 years, and through 7 divisions, Manny Pacquiao has carefully avoided Black fighters on his pathway (Casamayor, Nate Cambell; Holt; Witter; Bradley; Mosley (who challenged him at 140), and now Mayweather). Ask a statistician, he will tell you for 14 yrs, it can’t be an accident.
* For 15 years,and through 7 divisions, Manny Pacquiao has NEVER faced a fellow beltholder. Ask a statistician, he will state that is is no accident.
*Here is the ice on the cake, and the DNA-evidence of media bias: On all media rankings, Marquez is the top guy at 135; Bradley at 140; Mosley at 147. Pacquiao ranking at 140 and 147 varies between 2d and 3rd. YET he is CROWN by the SAME media the pound-for-pound number one!!!!! (SOCRATES is coughing in his grave…). A fighter who is not the best at ANY of the weight class is the best ALL CLASSES considered (Wow!…). In other words the very same judge who says a player is not the best of his team, says that very same player is the best of all players of the league!!!!
Dear Media Owners, who did you hire?
if this fight doesn’t happen I will turn my back on boxing forever!! it’s criminal it really is…c’mon both of you grow some balls and just fight!!! MMA is putting boxing to shame and you have chance to turn that all around by producing a fight that could pick boxing up and out of the gutter forever. in MMA the best fight each other with no questions asked…warriors!!!! I pray that this fight happens as it should otherwise it will be official…..boxing will be dead!!
pacman does not need fraud mayweather it is fraud who needs manny therefore he needs to be more humble and lose his attitude who cares if manny is on roids anyway this is boxing
The rule should be that you cannot hold a belt if you aren’t required to defend it. If Pacquiao too Foreman’s belt at 154, then he should have to defend it!!!It should be the law in boxing. Even the lighter weight belts he brags about, then go down in weight and defend them!!!
At 154, Pacquiao would get KILLED by anyone other than the feather punching Foreman!
Pacquiao, take you supposed vitamins from Ariza and go away. You have done more to kill boxing in 1 year than anyone has to date.
Go away!!!! Just go away!!!
Its this Simple in this Age for steroid use. Wouldn’t we all want to know that one of the greatest Fights in History will Go Down As a Clean Fight In the steroid Era of Sports? Just Like Baseball 10 years from Now when a Someone Blow the Whistle on Boxing Like Jose Did in Baseball. We don’t want people to Look back Like they did with the Oakland “A’s’ in the 80, and other past great teams in that era And say their Championships were tainted, Shane Mosely was doing the Same test That Manny and other Fighters were being put through and he passed all of them then years later we found out that he was using steroids (Balco)
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have Random Test. As one of the Greatest Fights in the sport History we should not run the risk of 10 years from now finding out that the fight was tainted.
Manny is on something. I want what you are taking Manny…what it is? Get me some of that magical vitamins. If Ariza markets whatever vitamins he is giving you he would become a millionaire.
Who is Yuri Foreman? does anyone knows?
You know what is more chocking to me. Manny Pacquiao in his first 20 fights had a KO ratio of 55%. Yeah that was his KO ratios. This means Manny had a good punch, but he wasn’t a killer. In his next 34 fights Manny when on a tear and 27 KOs in 34 fights. That equate to a 80% KOs ratio. Also this was going up in weight against bigger and better opponents. Those numbers are mind blowing…
His head grew dramatically and his so much bulkier now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U7BwA65I0o
manny cant beat floyd in the ring so he might as well sue him in court !! if it was me i would take ANY AND ALL tests to make the biggest fight ever .. he needs to FIRE bob arum and get a fresh new promoter .. bob never has seen eye to eye with mayweather , bad blood there folks !! floyd agreed to most of bob arums demands , so why cant they agree to take the exact same tests as floyd ?? i dont think manny is on roids myself BUT alot of people wonder how an athelete moves up from 106 pounds ands gets stronger and faster progresevly..most dont carry the power w them ..look at roy jones , he didnt knock out john ruiz at heavy weight did he , just boxing skills !! m. p. take all these tests because you have nothing to hide right ??
Can you really be a titleholder and really a useless fighter?
Why dont Floyd ask to fight Foreman or Martinez instead?
‘Matt’
Guess you’re right, too many excuses already. What I truly mean to say if Pacquiao really decides to fight someone else it should be someone who can offer him something to aspire for like Foreman or Martinez even who are light middleweight champs, not Clottey or Margarito who cannot offer anything, they are good fighters but what will Pacquiao get out of it? then later on he can challenged the winner of the Mosley/Berto fight.
Blueblood – I dont blame Pacquiao for pulling out of the fight as all this demands/accusations between sides is costing him precious time for training while Mayweather apparently already started training.
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How is this stopping him training?
There is nothing stopping either of them training so stop making excuses for him, we’ve had enough of those from Paquaio’s camp already.
‘Elloca’
Yup, Martinez or Foreman whoever is willing to stake their title. How about Floyd? who do you think he should fight? someone from the light middleweight or someone from Flyweight?
‘Body Builder’
I wish I have family there BUT you sound like Mayweather, is it you Floyd?? go away Pacquiao, just go away.
Martinez has a title a 154. He has the real title. Manny should fight him if he is going up in weight again**.
Martinez would kill the fake steroid boy Manny.
Do you know who Martinez is? If you are a boxing fan you should now.
Manny chose Yuri Foremen because the guy has no KO power what so ever….
‘Body Builder’
I would love to go to the Philippines, heard its nice and warm there, one day I will go visit that place. BUT for now I would rather stay in my own place, guess where?
Body Builder…
Name some recent American fighters that hold multiple belts in any division. A fighter is a fighter and as far as style goes…most American fighters lack the swag for interesting fights that is why the Klitschko’s dominate the heavyweights and why most lightweights are Spanish origin. The few Americans fighters out there create controversy, because they lack the idealism of America…Who do we Americans see as the most like the ideal…Tyson.. he was great.. Ali the best.. but who do we see.. that represents what the nation stands for…I can name others that represent country…Klitschko’s, Hatton, Kessler, Chavez Jr., Pac- Man….do you think that the one we support should be MONEY Mayweather and counterpuncher who runs more than he fights or Arreola a fighter with promise but not enough discipline to Finish the job?
I dont blame Pacquiao for pulling out of the fight as all this demands/accusations between sides is costing him precious time for training while Mayweather apparently already started training.
Pacquiao would pick Yuri Foreman as he is the one who has something to offer to Pacquiao (possible 8th Division title), to which Clottey or Margarito doesn’t have and Mosley is fighting Berto in January.
That’s the reason I think why Pacquiao should just fight Foreman, for the light middleweight title then later on fight the winner of Mosley/Berto fight.
Orgas you are right, but after fighting Foreman, win or lose Pacquiao should fight the winner of Mosley/Berto fight.
Mayweather, GBP should first concentrate on the lawsuit then pick a fight with someone credible like Bradley, Williams, Mosley or Berto.
At least we know it’s Paquaio that has pulled out of the fight.
He won’t do his reputation much good if he cherrypicks the easiest fight at 154 instead of fighting Clottey, Margarito or Mosley.
Besides this being a publicity stunt, I feel that the attempt to have the USADA enter into the boxing seen is a move that Golden Boy Hopes to accomplish to seal their fate in the industry as a force in control of all aspects of boxing. Why else would the Mayweather camp use names like Lebron, Kobe and Phelps, they want to be seen as part of the greats, but all that needs to be done is fight the great. There are plenty of fights for Pac to do to solidify his Greatness! Who ever said that having too many belts was not a good thing? I think that Pac fights Foreman, then Paglinaggi and he will be way above the rest, you may even say that he is the undisputed champ. For Mayweather to be taken serious his fights would have to be tougher, first Mosley, then Williams, or European champs like Kessler… or people with big names and bigger bodies…meaning moving weight classes.
‘Body builder’
I guess when you say old, weak and stupid, you probably mean ODLH and the rest that Pacquiao beat ‘easily’. Yeah totally agree with you especially Dela Hoya being old, weak & stupid, same Dela Hoya who is promoting Mayweather – - does this mean that if and when Pacquiao & Mayweather finally agreed to fight that Mayweather is also old, weak & stupid? as Pacquiao answered his call for the 13 March fight? or maybe after the fight when Pacquiao beats him as well. Nope, you probably got a reason if FM losses, oh yeah right! steroids!
‘James’
As far as I can recall, Pacquiao is in the Philippines right now, BANNED? yeah, get a life. Vegas welcomes any fighter who brings in money.
Manny Paquiao weakens during his fight with Morales. Because blood taken from him 2 days before the fight. Floyd know manny will be weak during the fight. watch this 2005 video of manny pacquiao interview. this explains mayweather and GBP blood test dirty tactics. shame on you guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4
Freddie Roach originally said he was ok with the random testing… but not anymore it seems…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGd8r7G7Mxo
‘Joe@’
Dont understand what you’re saying man except ‘END OF’ are you on drugs?
people p me off mayweather scered of manny mayweather is willing to fight as long as manny takes the blood test what he would be takein to manny is scered of floyd END OF !!!!
Me too, really hope and pray that MP vs FM fight will happen, as it is really rare that you have the No. 1 & 2 P4P fighter on the same weight division.
This Yuri guy is too big for Pac. Plus boxing fans does not want to see this fight. I still hope the Pacquio and Mayweather match will happen, otherwise it is very sad for the sport of boxing!
mayweather wants random test. why you dont joint the olympics next season. respect what is the nevada rules, not you guys make a new rules…
this is very sad for BOXING, being a fan for so many years…they build up a boxer like pacquiao then tear him down in the end…so this is what they do to a fighter that revived BOXING, made it exciting again instead of acknowledging his hardwork and perseverance they scrutinize and insult him. DE LA HOYA right after fight said “pacquiao deserve all the accolades and that he is a great fighter” now he’s singing a different tune. FLOYD SR. said before, his son can beat pac even if he’ll take steroids…what now?!!!in my opinion whatever pac has right now is due to a god-given talent coupled with hard work. He has a great team that prepares him for all his fights. We can doubt him or just believe that he is that good. FLOYD JR. has an unblemished record but nobody said “oh he must be on something”…i know why, because most(all) of his fights were boring, which is the exact opposite when you watch pacquiao. BOXING FANS… when was the last time you got up on your seats and cheered during a maywheather fight…BOXING does not need a fighter like FLOYD or any of the maywheathers…they should be the ones being scrutinized right now not PACQUIAO just look at their criminal records. Hopefully THIS (hoopla) does not discredit PAC for all the great things he did to sport of BOXING.
‘omg’
No one disagrees with you, Floyd vs Pacquiao is what everyone wants to see and watch regardless who wins BUT seems like both fighter dont want to fight each other so who would you rather see them fight?
bunch of retards talking here. floyd-pac ist the best choice for them BY FAR! if u cant see it you just very very dumb!
Does anyone think Yuri Foreman is an easy pick for Pacquiao? he is one class higher than Pacquiao & Mayweather, I mean weight division. Indeed, he may be the weakest among the champs but in light middleweight not weltwerweight. Yuri vs. Manny, I would say this would be a one-sided fight for Yuri BUT Manny has proven time and time again that he can hold his own against anyone regardless of size. Thats why it will be more interesting watching this fight than MP vs FM (coz it will never happen anyway), it wont be good money wise for pacquiao but would be really good for his reputation and record if he wins.
go into politics manny , thats where you belong sunshine , letting lawyers do ya fighting now , pollies and lawyers – we all know what they are and what they tell .
Yeah, I think Pac should fight Yuri Foreman, the weakest of the alphabet title holders at JMW. Nothing new there, Pac just carrying on his cherry picking ways. Hi David Diaz, how’s the new car? LoL.
Lots of Filippinos will watch Manny fight a penguin. Money, however, won’t be enough for old Bobby A unless Pac fights another marquee name. Tell you the truth, people are blaming this on Camp Mayweather, but it looks more and more Pac is afraid of Floyd Jr. Well, he has every reason to be. Good for him, the fight is not going happen.
Manny should go after Yuri Foreman (29-0-8KO)and try to get that 8th weight division belt, if he lose at least he tried and would still be in the record book. But, if he wins then maybe he can retire without giving Floyd a chance to even shake his hand, also if Pacquiao wins against Yuri(if it happens which more likely than MP vs FM) it will only make Floyd more assured that he made the right decision of not fighting Pacquiao.
Manny vs TITLE HOLDER will always be EXCITING….Manny Pacquiao Flavor FIght xD
If Pac-Mayweather fight will happen…i believe that Pac can absord the punches from Mayweather what Cotto did in early round when they fought….this is why
Mayweather scared of Pac….what he is going to do is to RUN>>>this same to be as Tom and Jerry on the ring…HAHAHAHA…
i guess RA The Rugged Man is RIGHT ON the WHOLE TIME …. If Boxing keep hyping up FLoyd? Boxing will never comeback for HOW MANY GENERATION AFTER Manny Retires. Boxing is lucky at the moment Manny is still active. Most people thats giving attention to boxing right now are regular UFC fans, after Manny retires…expect them in UFC. Besides UFC is better ACTION anyways….i hope Manny will stay for a litle while though. Manny clean up the Welterweight division after you get your 8th divisional belt.
I agree to you Chris…….
This should have been a great fight if not for the clowns in Golden Boy. You should have been voted negotiators of the year.
I used to be a Mayweather fan. I used to back him up when people called him a ducker. I thought he had good reasons to not fight the boxers which called him out, but after this mess I can’t defend him. Manny has offered 3 blood tests 1 straight away, another 30 days before the fight and the last right after the fight. If Manny had anything in his system than it WOULD be detected. Manny has made a fair compromise, but where is Floyd’s compromise? PBF legacy will be that he is a great tactician with great defense and unfortunately the ability to duck opponents.
Mayweather is such a coward! He said before that he can beat pacman easily, coz pac has no skills, one dimensional, and would just toy him! WTF now? asking for lots of demands! trying to do mind games with Pac and money already starts training! “Once a coward, always a coward” why need such a lot of blood test???? you’re just scarrreeeedddd!!!!
So what’s PBF’s options now that the PAC fight seems dead? If he fights another lameduck fighter , what does that say about him? Pac can still fight Mosley / Berto / williams or even Foreman even though all these are not as tasty as a PBF fight, but i’d still want to see it. Floyd has no choice but to fight these topnotch fighters or else be labellled as a Mighty Duck forever . Doesn’t look good for Manny right now but this maneuver will slowly come back to bite PBF in the a*s if he doesn’t pick a credible opponent.
Mayweather shall go down in american boxing history as the biggest FAKE.
The only way Floyd can fix his reputation is to call out for Yuri before Pacquiao does or anyone of the light middleweight champions (with no extra blood testing request unless you have good reason to) on the same date (13 March) beat them and maybe just maybe he would be able to silence his critics.
But like I posted earlier, Floyd based on his records would not fight anyone bigger than him.
Why did Floyd jr, screw up? because “promotions” couldn`t deal with each other? because of 1 bloodtest? you blame floyd jr? i don`t think ur very reasonable, cause ur a Manny fan, so you blind and has tunnel view, no sense for people like you to post anything,
Sad news to start a new year that looked so full of boxing promise.
But still, Manny`s off to capture another world belt. If going for an eight title in an eight division is not worthy of a good ppv crowd, fine, but it won`t take from the achievement. You`ve got to ask yourself if Manny is really all that bothered by the huge-dollar fights, that he can in fact do without them, that he is more interested in been seen as the dfinitive best boxer of his generation. In the event he wins this title, he would stake an undenyable claim as the pound per pound crown. What could Mayweather answer to that? Pacquiao can always pop back down to Mayweather`s (weight) level later on if a compromise is ever found.
But what`s Floyd going to do meantime? Apart from Pacquiao there is no other possible fight for Floyd that would generate as much interest or income. So Floyd will just have to cherry-pick another one and go on telling everyone he`s the best, while Manny Pacquiao is out there actually proving that he, Pacquiao, is the undisputed best today.
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!
Floyd Jr and SR and co are all thugs Manny is pure
class!!
I am pretty sure Mayweather would never fight someone bigger than him such as Yuri.
who would you rather have pacquiao fight? other than Floyd mayweather? Pacquiao has proven that he is not after the money so why fight someone like shane, Foreman is the best things out there, he may be the easy one among the light middleweight champions but he is a light middleweight champion and pacquiao is just welterweight, give boxings fans a bit of respect cause we know who Yuri is.
I am not sure pac can beat foreman like all his fights I have no idea who is going to win, I like Hatton and rooted for him but then pacquiao floored him, that’s boxing man. On pac vs yuri fight (if its gonna happen) I would like pacquiao to win this one to keep mayweather wondering what would have happened to him in the ring if he fought pacquiao.