Would Mayweather have beaten Pacquiao?
December 25th, 2009
By Dave Lahr: Since the potential mega fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao appears all but finished, boxing fans are left to wonder what might have happened had the stars of the sport fought on March 13th. We’ll probably never know at this point. However, it seems likely that Pacquiao would have had huge problems with the size, reach and boxing ability of Mayweather.
Cotto isn’t nearly as good at moving and boxing as is Mayweather. Pacquiao would have been open for a lot of shots from Mayweather while chasing after him. In most of Pacquiao’s fights, he’s gone up against opponents that either stood there or else came at him. In other words, Pacquiao hasn’t had to chase down a sneaky defensive specialist like Mayweather.
The way I see the fight taking place is like this:
It would have been tough task for the smaller Pacquiao. Mayweather has centered his career around moving and boxing from the outside against fighters like Pacquiao. It would have been a fight where Mayweather would have likely held all the cards. Pacquiao would have little choice but to attack Mayweather, because if he were to let Mayweather stand on the outside, Pacquiao would have probably been riddled to pieces with Mayweather’s long jabs. But in going after Mayweather, that’s where Pacquiao would have had his main problems.
Mayweather can change directions at the drop of a dime to elude an opponent. Pacquiao tends to leave himself open when he’s rushing wildly forward trying to make contact with his opponents. This would present Mayweather with countless opportunities to blast away at Pacquiao with check left hooks and right hands to the head. Pacquiao might have great offensive skills when it comes to slugging, but he is capable of being hurt if he’s hit hard. Mayweather would have been putting hands on Pacquiao, hitting him each time Pacquiao came rushing forward.
There’s a good chance that Mayweather would have opened a cut over one of Pacquiao’s eyes early on in the fight. Once Mayweather had Pacquiao cut, he’d start aiming his shots at that area to try and further blind the injured Pacquiao and make it difficult for him to see where the punches are coming from. With only limited vision out of one eye, Pacquiao would have had problems against Mayweather. At this point, Mayweather would have unloaded a storm of punches on Pacquiao, possibly leading to a stoppage.
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Would you like to be known as “The Best Boxer” or “The Best Doper”? Do the test already so you can prove to the whole world that not all Filipinos are cheaters.
floyd– you said “mexicans are cheaters as well as filipinos and all filipinos are slaves of the americans” lol! who’s d original slave of the americans s it not u thicklip neger from the doomsday of africa? who is the cheater whose weight was over by 2 lbs. n who was even penalized for $2M, was it the mexican? its better 4 u n ur ugly father to jump at the golden gate bridge so that you will be known the whole world over. This might put in the hall of fame for being the first undefeated fighter to commit suicide by jumping at the GGB…
i doubt that floyd believes he can beat pacman. otherwise, he would have signed the contract early.. remember, he only sign up for fights that he can win.
besides, whenever floyd speaks about pacman in the interviews, you almost see his balls on his throat
I HOPE MANNY PACQUAIO SUE YOU TOO MR MANUEL PEREZ AKA MORON
think, what do you think now that Mayweather caved again and agreed to what manny proposed yesterday? What do you think that Manny now refuses any blood tests? I think Manny is running scared and running out of excuses.
guy dont be stupid think!! pac already agree to get a blood test right after the fight have finish, mayweather didnt agree with it.. whys that? if pac is taking enhancer the effect of it will not mysteriously disapear after the fight.. i think his not scared by the so called “enhancer drugs” but to pac himself..
Pacquiao naman. By not agreeing to the test you are placing doubts on your past victories. Do the test already. Don’t be afraid of the needle. Krista will hold your hand. Probably it’s not the needle you are afraid of. Might it be the results?
and to those who have not been into martial arts or boxing, a southpaw stance is very difficult to fight since your strong right hand is opposed against his strong left hand such that it goes like whoever comes first since you r 2 steps apart instead of plain single step to throw a punch. Mayweather s a genius against orthodox fighters but awkward against southpaws since his normal left shoulder roll will be very effective, but not against southpaws.that 2 step difference then favors the fighter who can dart in and out faster or the one who has got the faster and better footwork. both got that! pressure- pacman. remember dela hoya pinning mayweather on the defense? Pacman can do much better because he is a southpaw. So the recourse? Call this fight off!!
Who the hell do Mayweather and his crackhead dad think they are shouting and pointing fingers just because Pacman smashed DLH Hatton and Cotto in a fashon That PBF couldnt do!! Pacmans number one not PFM so he should stop this crpy Circus and get in the ring and prove what he keeps telling everyone. Hes got a world championship in hype and s. For the record Pacman stupidly agread to PBF silly Drug tests before and after the fight then PFM moved the goal posts. Pacmans has been insulted by these allegations and rightly so. If a high profile golfer called Tiger woods a Steriod abuser he would end up in Court so this situation should be no different. If this fight goes to court I hope it breaks Mayweather as hes bought this on himself due to his childish self obsessed attitude. He has nowhere to go if he does not take this fight its as simple as that, You cant walk away from the biggest fight of your life the fight that will define your legacy and say your a great it does not work like that. Hes deceived in the past but theres nowhere to hide now and this situation is born of one mans fear to face the music. ITS PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME MAYWEATHER WHATS IT GONNA BE? GREATNESS ON A MASSIVE SCALE OR DEFEAT? DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO TRY?
ask a doctor? there s always a trace of substance in the blood if a person doped since the drug obeys infinite elimination cycle. this s just floyd’s ploy since when pac agrees it s already a victory for him. he s a bully asking another bully to show the candy in his mouth but the other bully refuses since he s thinking ‘what am I your servant??’. By the way that type of drug testing s not in the contract but what floyd wants to be included in thew contract.
Floyd needs to quite being scary like all his people always holding and runing scary punks!!!!FIGHT SOMEONE YOUR OWN WIEGHT CLASS SCARY ASS PUNK QUITE FIGHTING FEATHERWIEGHTS!!!!!
Everybody else Floyd fights don’t have to take this test why does PacMan? I will tell you why because Mayweather is a punk. And thats why PacMan would have won.
Just a quick note to those of you that don’t think Floyd has heart. Floyd has fought with a broken hand and a dislocated shoulder.
Everyone saying FLoyd is scared doesn’t know whats been going on. First of all HGH and pretty much any steroid, or any drug at all for that matter, can be out of your system in less than two weeks. Pacman DEMANDS no test that will show HGH for 30 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT!! 30 DAYS!! Mayweather caved to a 50/50 split, that nobody ever thought he would. He agreed to the crazy $10 million penalty for every pound over the weight limit for the fight, the gloves pacman wants. Whos scared of who??? FLoyd agreed to all these demands without any argument at all!! Pacman made these demands hoping Floyd wouldnt take the fight and they could say he was afraid. Now Manny wont take a drug test for 30 days before the fight and somehows its Mayweather thats scared?!? First Pacman was afraid of needles until people asked how he got all those tattoos since hes so afraid of needles. Then it was because he was superstitous of blood tests, LOL. Now, it will make him too weak to fight if he has to take a blood test within 30 days of the fight. Oh ok, yea that one makes sense, I mean I’ve given blood before, and a lot more blood than they would take for a drug test and I know I felt weak for the next month. I even called off work for a month and they understood, everybody knows how weak you are for the next MONTH after giving blood. Pacman wants to say its time for Floyd to fight him in the ring, well Manny I hate to tell you but he’s agreed to all your crazy demands and all you have to do is take random drug tests to do it. Quit running scared Manny and give the people the fight they want to see.
Thomas Archie,
When Marquez popped Mayweather with a straight right, he laughed it off because it hurt and it was a good shot. Most fighters do that to let the other know that it was a nice shot. Manny did the same thing with Cotto. He does that all the time. He smiles, puts his hands together, and motions “let’s box.” Manny’s been sparring with Porter, a boxer known to be bigger and stronger than Cotto. Manny let Porter hit him several times to get used to the pain. If you see them spar, you’ll know that Manny was getting tagged and taking the punches. Now, when he fought Cotto, he was used to the punches, even thought they still hurt. When your body gets used to the punishment, then after a while, it doesn’t seem to be as bad as it was before. It’s a lot like being on a diet. When your body gets used to eating less, then you stop losing weight. It’s homeostasis. Your body gets used to it. Why do you think Manny constantly hits his body with sticks? After a while, it becomes routine and he doesn’t feel the pain as much.
maybe it could have happened as u see it…but then again, we may never know for sure because of Mayweather’s cowardly actions.
oh sorry forgot to say we will never know who will win this fight now. if your going for analysis and stats. Please check the stats on the delahoya fight with PAQ he was the underdog and yet he creamed him so badly that now his claiming PED’s use….
Floyd sr. was so sure that his son can beat PAQ even if PAQ was doped. So why the change of hearth. I just want to see a good fight stop the antics and agree with PAQ compromise. Then we will know the answer.
STOP saying PAQ didnt agree to blood test he did. its floyd who didnt agree to the compromise. I will pay 100000000Million is someone can show me some proof of a PED that will vanish after the 12 rounds or after he knocks out the other opponent…….
floyd needs the pac more than the pac needs floyd. i honestly think floyd did not want to fight pacman from the start, when he stated that, ” i’m in a no win situation…”. maybe he’s scared. knowing floyd, i,m not surprised if he fights mathew hatton.
james you really have no idea, its in mayweathers hands whether the fight happens or not, pacman can get tested after and the fight and during training, same outcome of results will come, this is just mayweather being mayweather. He is trying to make demands over the biggest fighter of this decade, which is no longer him anymore, that what floyd is annoyed about. i think if pacman had a regular boxing trainer the fight would go how your article says. But with freddie roach in your corner, he tells pacman how to fight and how careless he can be against fighters. he knows his pupil well, pacman can train differently, he is an amazing student. Roach knows he has to be more careful in this fight and knows manny cant afford to be as loose in other fights which always works in manny’s favour, so roach doesnt change that in certain bouts. manny’s wreckless looking flurries opens boxers up and thats when he can show his power and ridiculous accuracy when trading leather with most boxers. Against floyd it will be a different fight, floyd has always fought and stuck to his tactics the same way, and nobody has ever touched him. Manny’s camp have always hunted and looked for flaws in potential opponents and tried to exploit them. Manny is hunting floyd, not the other way round, its a matter of who executes on the night. manny looks unstoppable at the min which is a dangerous thing for floyd. most fighters in recent fights have had bad bouts against manny, he makes that happen eventually, perhaps floyd will have his first bad fight in a while?
Before i start id just like to say i personally think floyd would win the fight with pacman but i dont agree how he goes about things first of all its the governing bodys job to sort out drug testing not floyd and his dad we all no hes got a big mouth but he has over stepped the mark this time this is not about drugs this is floyd smack talking to get the mental edge over pac hes started this because he truly isnt convinced he can beat pac and he knows whatever happens win lose or draw pacman is going to hurt him floyd new like the rest of us he would beat marquez at that weight he even didnt come in on weight ? . But with pac man its diffrent floyd has seen pac dominate oscar ko hatton and tear through cotto and in the proccess take cottos punches with ease. My point is its a lose lose fight for floyd if he wins he beat the smaller man but if he loses it will destroy floyd mentally hes got a big ego to uphold. Floyd you are an amazing boxer the best on the planet cut the crap and show the world something that you havnt displayed before willing to get in the ring with the best fighters you owe it to your fans.
Secretly, in their own twistedly retarded mind, the Pacmaniacs are rejoicing this fight may never happen at all. Floyd will kill Pac just with his jabs alone.
I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU COMMENTERS HERE HAVE EVER BOXED. PROBABLY NONE OF YOU. THE POINT BEING, TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM FIGHT. ON PAPER FLOYD HAS THE SUPERIOR ABILITY. IN EVERY CATEGORY. YES MANNY IS A BEAST AND GIVES HIS ALL BUT THATS NOT ENOUGH. THE SKILL FACTOR IS THE DIFFERENCE. BOXING HAS AND ALWAYS WILL BEGIN WITH THE JAB. FLOYD STARTS AND ENDS HIS MATCHES WITH THE CONTROL OF IT. THIS IS THE WEAPON THAT WILL CONTROL THIS BOUT. HIS DEFENSE WILL BE WHAT KEEPS MANNY OFF BALANCE AND HIS ACCURACY WILL COMPLETE THIS ASSIGNMENT
Is USADA better than the other drug agencies that are taking test from athletes? It seems my understanding is that other agencies are not doing there job or what. It is just hurting to say that other drug agencies are in a bad light least to say.
I wanna invite floyd jr and sr to go to maguindanao for them to see, feel and experience real battle. if they are really brave and treat the Filipinos as slaves then we’ll see the real score. we’ll eat and bury these con dad and son team alive…..
let’s hold the fight in mindanao and we’ll butcher these crackheaded father and son team….and use them as hogfeeds….
Why don’t PAC just agree to the drugs tests, then they can fight knowing it’s a clean fair contest with no ifs or buts after. If pacs got nothink to hide then do it, I don’t believe it’s a unfair demand by mayweather. Pacs the one pulling out of this fight
It doesn’t matter now. FMJ doesn’t want to fight . So if he doesn’t want to fight why imagine what might be? Because everytime we say that guy is too big,strong, or better than Manny,Manny wins. FMJ is better on paper but that doesn’t make a difference once the bell rings.
I don’t think so. Pacquiao is a great boxer and I know he can beat Mayweather.
why do some people call floyd coward ?? manny sissy is the one pulling out of the fight !! if pac-roid has nothing to hide , then take the tests ..floyd agreed to your and your promoters demands … now its time for you manny to MAN UP and do the right thing ..im a truck driver in real life and im 100 percent drug free as i take randoms often , shoot for the coin you fighters are getting id take 2 tests a day !! for a fight of this magnatude [and shelling out about 75 washingtons !!] i think every one that watches this fight deserves these tests ..the real reason may be because floyd WILL dominate manny wuss in this fight !! manny only looks good when fighters come straight forward w no defense !! i think floyd will make a statement in this fight ..
Hank says,
“besides Cotto’s infamous left hook made only Manny laugh”
Thats the Point….. How come a legitimate Welter Warriror as Cotto throws what is arguably his best weapon at a new comer and all we get is a smile from Manny? Ill rather Manny and Money smile and take a blood test before battle instead of wasting my time reading about there battles in the court.
this fight is to epic not to push through… its stupid for pacman for him back out of this… it will destroy his legacy and his credibility.. this just a play by mayweather to affect his concentration.. the way to counter this is just accept it.. if your afraid of the draw back(cause they will get the blood sample near the fight)then just make mayweather do it too.. and arum why the hell did you find another guy so quickly? well i hope this is just another play for draw the crowd attention for the fight.. well cause again its stupid 20-40million and you’ll back out? thats stupid
If you dont lie why avoiding questions???? its really annoying, why Pacman tried to avoid blood test at anytime is this tactic to ease the drug on his body now? (later on subdue)
should something else occur after this drug test then we can say now Floyd avoiding Pacman. So far its a crystal clear “Manny Avoiding Floyd”
Pacquiao naman, nakakahiya na yan sa lahat ng mga Filipinos. If you have nothing to hide, just do the test.
here comes the DUCK again, if ever this fight will push through, i will advice manny to have it in 24 rounds so that Floyd can run in first 12 rounds and in the next 12 rounds will be a real face to face boxing.
Floyd Jr and Sr. your such a COWARD!!!
Floyd you invented Run-Boxing and you Master it.
Here we go again it would be easy for Mayweather to do manny 11 rounds to 1??? Yeah well done Nameless. Its would be that easy Mayweather could make $40 million dollors for a sparring session. Thats why hes prepared to walk away from it? OHHH (MONEY MAYWEATHER) walking away from more money than ever when the IRS are clamping him sounds a little odd!!!!!!!! to anyone with half a Brain. He cant use the Money excuse on this one as the Moneys there. The Money excuse was used against Sugar Shane So he needs to be a little more inventive to get out of this fight hence his silly Winners dont take Drugs Circus. Hes been busted good and propper and its only fools who bought into his hype who cant see it.
Who cares???? Floyd is a fight dodger and will NEVER be the p4p king again.
Also to all those who want Pacquaio v Marquez – the fight would be over inside 4 rounds. Pacquiao would now destroy him.
No comment on who would of won. Dont really care as mayweather does not care about having a live fight why should I? He will tell us he would of done this and that and dupe the foolish into thinking hes right. I Hope the courts deal with him ive had it with him hes proved hes a toltal Coward. Who will he fight next..??? cant wait for him To tell.
i totally agree with the article. floyd would have dominated manny “pacroid” pacquiao 11 rounds to 1.
one bloke pulled out of the fight because of a minor technicality , could’nt handle the mind games 2 1/2 months out from the proposed fight. jesus by march 13 th pac would have been a wreck . mayweather wins this non fight 10 rounds to 2 . easy sparring work.
I agree with you Josh James
Easier said than done. All you so called expert have figured out how to beat Manny from ODLH, Hatton and Cotto. Guess who came up on top. I think most of Manny’s opponents and critics think he is a small dumb boxer. That’s where you get fooled. Remember watching a replay is not the same as being in front of Manny, just ask those 3 fighter I mentioned above. Manny got hit by Cotto while backing pedalling because Manny didn’t prepare for Cotto to run away, besides Cotto’s infamous left hook made only Manny laugh, what can Cotto’s jab while running away do to the granite chin of Manny.
come on floyd, just be a sparring partner to the pac and you will get the early feeling of the fight!
just watch every last fights of the pac and you will see where he is really getting his strength….where?
just duck on one corner, kneel down, and PRAY hard before the game and you might see where the real ped is coming from! REPENT FLOYD!
where and which boxer you can find smiling and waiving into the fans during the beginning of the fight?…….which and where you find a boxer having a singing concert after a fight…….win or lose?………where and when and you see that after a gruelling fight, his face remainds pretty and handsome and his opponent’s face devastated? where?
…come on guys…let’s forget the ring…….let’s go to the court!
floyd, just take on all the steroids and dopes that you want and fight like a pro. you can event take on all the fertility drugs that you like!
PACMAN # 1
Floyd # 2
Floyd will be number 1 unless he will beat Pacman or Pacman will retire. Floyd is coward. He should be an actor not a boxer.
FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS A FRAUD AND WE ARE SICK OF HE’S REDICULOUS ANTICS! HE, HE’S CRACK HEAD DAD SR, THE GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS, ARE ALL HUSTLERS! THEY ONLY WANT TO FIGHT IF THEY BELIEVE THEY WILL HAVE THE GREAT ADVANTAGE. IT IS A HUGE SHAME IN THIS SPORT. PACQUIO BROUGHT THIS SPORT OF BOXING WHEN MMA AND UFC ARE SLOWY KILLING IT. ITS A SHAME!
THEY ALL DESERVED TO GET SUED, TEACH THEM A LESSON. THEY ARE PLACING THE SPORT BACK TO THE LIMELIGHT!
PLUS SCHAEFER IS A TWO FACED! THATS A FACT, EVEN HIM CANNOT DENY THIS, HE KNOWS IT!
WITH ALL OF THIS MESS MAYWEATHER AND CO. AND GBP CREATED, I FEEL SORRY FOR THE TRUE FANS OF BOXING!!!!!!!!
If this is your opinion then is mayweather asking all these demands. every body knows that mayweather is not as good as what he says he is. he scared of pacman. one thing mayweather doesnt have have is heart, manny has that the heart to win. if ever in the future the fight happens. all that mayweather did was to manny off. he mad. so if they ever fight manny will KO him onto a COMA. mark that word.
Mayweather would have tasted his first defeat, his first knockout. But of course, his daddy does not want him to fight Pacquiao and taste defeat – he made this very clear early on, when he was interviewed after the Pacquiao-Cotto fight.
An orthopedic surgeon even said that Mayweather’s shoulder roll will have no impact on Pacquiao. Pacquiao will crush his shoulder and take him down by round 10 or 11. This was enough to instill fear in Floydie and his daddy’s hearts, thus their smokescreen to backpedal from the fight.
I am a firm fan of Pacmans’ and I truely regard him as the best pound for pound “fighter” in the world but the best pound for pound “boxer” in the world is PBF. As for the fight, I can see Pacman winning if Floyd’s jab isn’t piston like and Pacquiao is able to walk through it to unload with shots that I don’t think that Floyd could cope with. Floyd wins the fight if he can tie up whenever Pacman gets within range and smothers his work with his neat “fouls” and opens up the space for his own potshots tied together with the gameplan of using the jab flawlessly. The stoppage may come with the check-hook if Pacquiao cannot resist the inclination to lunge (as he did once when Cotto began to box well and did heavily in his previous days) other than that Floyd will get the decision on a landslide. The fight is there for Floyd to lose, as Pacquiao has shown vulnerability against good boxers, but the jab has to be “perfect”. Pacman can get a 6th round TKO if his foot work is far better than Mayweather’s and he is able to cut off the ring, not allow Floyd to clinch and open up with those miraculously fast combos (which no fighter in the world can deal with) as Floyd has shown time and time again that he cannot be hit with single shots. Heart says Pacquiao but head says Mayweather. The fight will happen as Floyd will waver on these ridiculous doping regulations and allegations and will realise he needs this for his legacy and the startling paycheck.
if mayweather claims that pacman is using steroids, why don’t li’l floydie use it and fight pacman just to prove the effect of steroids?
i really don’t know this ped and have no idea about this. can you give us the names of those peds that cannot be detected in the urinalysis?
Mayweather v Cotto, Pacquiao V Bradley
mk
I must say I am of the opinion that all though the fight has been called “off” for now the fight will get the go ahead come the middle to end of January. As for the result of this mega-vegas showdown I can see the fight being a late stoppage for Pacman if not a clear points victory for Floyd. Pacman gets the victory if Mayweather becomes disheartened by taking one to many heavy shots and with this begins to wilt in the later rounds allowing Pacman to step in for the TKO. This is a genuine possibility with Pacman’s superior footwork and his ability to cut off the ring (along with what will be a picture perfect gameplan as always thanks to the “master”). Floyd will win the fight on a landslide if he smothers Pacquiao’s work with his neat “fouls” not allowing the lightning fast combinations to come into play and using his arms (and elbows) to open up the space for some potshots aswell as jabbing flawlessly to keep Pacman at arms length. As for the check-hook, this punch may come into effect if Pacquiao gets frustrated with being kept away with the jab and digs into his archives and whips out with that reckless lunging that used to be a significant part of his arsenal which did rear its ugly head at one point when Cotto was beginning to box well in one of the later rounds. The cards for this fight lie in Mayweather’s hands (I think the fight is there for him to lose) because of his ability to marshall the ring and evade punches, if he is able to evade the first or second punches of Pacmans combos he can tie up and do some neat work inside which was the undoing of Hatton. My heart firmly says Pacquiao to win this fight but my head thinks otherwise.
goldclass, there is a reason why is unbeaten. just think logical and you will find why..
through random blood testing, li’l floydie is just protecting the fighter.. you heard it right, he is only protecting himself from the severe beating of pacquiao.
Still MONEY MAYWEATHER is undefeated and still propably the true best pound for pound boxer. Lets not speculate on what might have been.
December 26, 2009
The way I see these things, the only knock-out would be……. THE FIGHT ITSELF. There is no fight. Floyd is a GREAT EVADER NOT A GREAT BOXER.
He is a great student of Sun Tzu. And Sun said “Do not engage in fight unless you win before fighthing. Get it. Huh?
Victor O. Teves
Pugaan, Iligan City
Philippines
Would have, should have, could have. It’s empry words. Pure imagination. It’s Da Vinci Code.
lets look at a common opponent. Marquez. Everybody that saw the two fights with manny and marquez knows marquez won. While marquez couldnt win a single round against pbf. Morales outboxed manny, too. And neither of them is half the boxer PBF is. And as to whos scared, no one thought PBF would ever agree to a 50/50 split but he did right away because he wants this fight. All he wants is to know his opponent isn’t on steroids. This really looks suspicious to refuse to be tested fo 30 days before the fight! 30 days!!! Everything is out of your system in 30 days. Is he really so superstitious to fight Pauli for a tenth of the amount??? Or is he scared to fight a top notch opponent while not on roids?? PBF has caved to all the demands no one thought he would for this fight and now Manny is running scared of a drug test!! This is ridiculious, who honestly believes a superstition is keeping the highest grossing fight ever from happening?!? If manny refuses to test he will go down as just another juiced up athlete and his wins will be as tainted as margaritos.
Mayweather should retire NOW! Nothing more…. Please retire or else you will put in shame american people.
im not a floyd fan in fact i hate his boxing way its boring and cowardly but ill give him credit on this one he got manny outside the ring and now manny is running scared arum said manny called him screaming and was very angry because there saying his on steroids well if his not on that then why not do the test if you got nothing to lose then take the test and fight floyd because its not going away floyd opened up new doors for manny he will be ? for all his fights from now on!!!!!!
you said are true Mayweather will not demand vigorous blood test,he has no confidence of defeating Pacquiao.They said Pacquiao is one dimensional and no skill even Mayweather sr. said steroid or no steroid Jr. will whoop Pacquiao if you proclaim to the world that you are the greatest you will fight the best without reservation the reality is they are scared of beating Pacquiao will give to Mayweather Jr.Lots of boxers who used steroids didnt go to the top of pound for pound ranking.They were awed what Pacquiao did to Cotto but there was a precedent of this Robinson and Armstrong did this going up and defeated quality opponents when there was no steroids at that time, Pacquiao is a throw back.
Don’t give me s! I came in at 147 in my fight with Juan Manuel bec they cheated I should have known that they are cheating me with their loaded weights, if I used my own weighing scale I should have weigh at 145.Mexicans are cheaters as well as Filipinos! pacman is a cheater all filipinos are cheaters. slaves of americans both of them! i hope they stop coming in US, they’re plagues.
flotd may have beaten the pac, but we will never know for sure. the reason: fraud is running scared….again ! for the nth time, he has ducked a fighter who has a chance of beating him.
go on floyd, fight mathew hatton and retire 41-0. history will judge you badly. cherrypicker of our generation!
dave lahr: you are treating the “supposed” pacquiao-mayweather fight as similar to their previous fights. it’s as if their strategies and tactics won’t change. your article is purely speculative man, no basis at all. if manny will fight mayweather, it will be on a different strategy and he won’t fight gayweather on the latter’s style. he will force mayweather to fight him, not the other way around. manny will not fall into floyd’s trap, that’s for sure.
if mayweather is a defensive player (read: running around like a scared pig), that will be his problem, he can’t win that kind of game against manny. for sure, pacquiao and roach will think of a different strategy so that mayweather’s defensive (scared) play will not work.
Yall watch wat holyfield said on youtube?
My personal observation of Floyd is that he loves himself too much. Unfortunately, it’s going to be his downfall. The only person that can beat floyd is floyd himself. He is so full of himself that any less of who and what he perceived himself will be detrimental to his 40-0 record. And herein lies the strategy to defeat Floyd. He may be able to withstand the boos from the crowd if he keeps running, but can he handle Manny Pacquiao insulting and making fun of him in front of the crowd and viewers from all over the world by PERFORMING the CHICKEN DANCE? Manny will not run from the fight, Floyd will to avoid getting hit. For Manny to get into Floyd’s psyche, he must understand and know how Floyd’ views himself. Floyd is a very egotistic kind of a person. He’s so blatantly proud of himself and loudly brags about it. Here lies Floyd Achilles heel. If he doesnt want to engage during the fight, remind him that the citizens of THE HOME OF THE BRAVE do not run. If he does, then everybody together with Manny PAcquiao in unison DO THE CHICKEN DANCE!!! Let’s Get Ready to RUMBL… I mean To do the CHICKEN DANCE!!!!!!! There’s your strategy to defeat Floyd. Floyd will destroy Floyd
Perfect call. I see it exactly that way. Pac-Man would eat a lot of leather, beat his chest as to encourage Mayweather to bring it, but as always Pretty Boy will stick to his game plan and perform surgery.
@gerard:
LOL. You just made my day!
nah,dont think so ing that its going to be a decision to play with floyd mind ,pac will ko floyd within 6 rounds ,and pac knows this,watch the ricky.floyd fight all of it.ricky was hooking floyd all night one even stagger floyd ,one is all pac needs. and floyd has a right hand lead then jumps back or holds.try grabbing manny,a short half left /right uppercut a ko waiting to happen ask ricky/cotto. , floyd doesnt want to give us our 65.00 worth ,its the fight of the century ,and the same guy who criticize mma ,want to give us a sparing match, cant be more chicken than that. floyd is bad for boxing.gives us dead matches ,a big mouth and ok for complaining , look at roy jones and who else are following his lead .
Mayweather will have to muster enough courage first to face Pacquiao and not duck him like he did to Cotto, Mosley and Margarito. It doesn’t make sense to compare Cotto to Mayweather since PBF did everything to avoid the guy. Everybody knows you’re guy is a coward. Don’t know why you’re rooting for this pretender.
Floyd wins easily! All he has to do is have his dad try to talk to Pacquiao during the fight and all his stupid stuttering and nonsense will distract Pacquiao. Pacquiao will be so irritated that he’ll knock himself out so that he doesn’t have to hear Floyd Sr. anymore.
Floyd- “Manny’s moved up weight classes and destroying these elite fighters! I can’t even do that! It’s not fair! He’s on roids! I have zero proof, but he’s on roids! Nobody can do that! I can’t do that!”
Judge-”Well Floyd, so you got any proof?”
Floyd- “I just told you my proof! Nobody can do that and the boy doesn’t want to do my drug tests! Clearly he’s taking something!”
Judge-”So Floyd, you got proof?”
Floyd- “Man, it’s cause I’m black you guys are not taking me serious!”
Judge- “Someone get this clown outta here!”
Judge-”Well Floyd, so you got any proof?”
Floyd- “I just told you my proof! Nobody can do that and the boy doesn’t want to do my drug tests! Clearly he’s taking something!”
Judge-”So Floyd, you got proof?”
Floyd- “Man, it’s cause I’m black you guys are not taking me serious!”
Judge- “Someone get this clown outta here!”
Floyd has the advantage in style and reach. Manny would have to fight very intelligently to match Floyd. Plus, he struggles against counter-punchers. If they fight anywhere close to how they have in the past, Floyd wins.
So, the burden on how Manny is going to win is placed on Freddie Roach. He will have a game plan, like Manny’s last 3 fights. It would be interesting to see how this plays out (I am still hoping the fight takes place).
For Manny to win, he would almost have to either break down Floyd’s defense or get him in a brawl (Leonard-Duran I may be a close comparison). I think it may be easier to do the latter but one thing that must happen is that Manny must have a great start.
One of the reasons why Floyd almost coasts as the fight goes on is he knows he is ahead. However, from time to time, he will show his offensive arsenal (round 7 in the De La Hoya fight) because he was forced to do it since Oscar had a great round 5 and 6 and his corner feels it was a 3-3 fight. I feel that in an offense vs. offense type of fight, Manny has the advantage.
Another way to get ahead would be to win close rounds because of activity. On the second Marquez fight, the judges were giving Manny the close rounds because he was the more active one. People who think Marquez won felt he was the more accurate puncher, but the judges thought otherwise. This was also an observation in the Mayweather-Hatton fight where the judges gave Hatton some of the rounds even though Floyd was more accurate.
Cotto hits much harder than Mayweather does and he landed some bombs on Pacquiao. Those bombs didn’t slow Manny down one bit though so I think he would laugh at Mayweathers punches. So unless Mayweather can pull off one of those flawless performances the way he did against Gatti I see Pacquiao coming forward and tagging him.
I say that Pacquiao would’ve landed one of those straight left hands early in the fight the way Judah did. And when Pacquiaos punch obviously did much more damage than Judah it would shake Floyds composure and there you go.
the only thing that fraud jr, i mean floyd jr could win is to hit and run and do the chicken dance. of course, we are not going to find out because fraud jr, i mean floyd jr is avoiding pacman just like what he did to mosley and margarito then keep on blaming them by not fighting him. fraud jr, i mean floyd jr played the media when in fact he should been exposed from the very beginning because of his personality, cult mentality attitude and unsporstmanship what he did to marquez not respecting the weight agreement and won’t even subject himself of weigh in the day of the fight. he thought hs is the draw but let’s see when he fights other boxer – we are going to find out what tricks he will do so people would buy his entertainment show.
Yes oli i agree this fight will happen mayweather is starting early with the mind games. I personally think floyd will just about win this one and i do hope im wrong but one thing is for sure pacman will hurt floyd at some stage in the fight now we all no floyd has incredible boxing ability but has he got the heart ?
why didn’t Mayweather ask Marquez (manuel perez lover) be tested by the USADA. Look at what MARQUEZ is putting into his body URINE!!!!!!!
Pacman is a great warrior, however I really did not see him winning a fight with PBF. How many times have we heard of a Floyd opponent being too much for PBF to deal with? Corrales was supposed to kill PBF, Zab Judah was supposedly too fast and strong for PBF, Hatton was supposed to apply so much pressure that PBF was supposed to wilt like month old lettuce. My point is that PBF has the art of boxing down to a science, the art of hitting and not getting hit. Manny is not even in the same league. I think manny has done a lot of damage to his rep by not submitting to a simple series of blood tests.
Floyd jr have the size the reach and boxing ability but he is missing the most important element in winning the biggest fights and that is the heart. He is only good fighting second tier boxers not the likes of Mosely, margarito and Cotto and now Pacquiao thats why hes ducking him. Floyd jr. should change sports and join the L A “Dodgers” a non contact sport.
fight can go either way, but the little guy he fear so much just told to shup up and fight called him a COWARD too. is floyd just gonna hide and whistle dixie.
Yes, there is a 50-50 chance for Mayweather to beat Manny Pacquiao and there is also an even chance Pacquiao could beat Floyd Mayweather. Both fighter has an even chance to knock each other out. But the story ends there, this dream fight remain a dream at this time, so lets forget it and let the boxing world move on and bring in a real and exciting boxing bout.
I SEE PACQUIO WITH A KO IN THE 6TH!
This is stupid. Not only is Pacquiao’s opponent come after him, Pacquiao goes after them as well. If Mayweather has to connect with Pacquiao, he has to take that foot in to hit him. This is where Pacquiao will make his chance to connect with him.
Pacquiao has been fighting reaches the same as Mayweather for years now, so reach is not important right now.
Pacquiao has endurance, which is triple of that of what Mayweather can bring.
Pacquiao’s pressure is totally different from your average fighter’s pressure.
Pacquiao throws punches that are relentless and they connect at a high percentage.
People with great offense can totally change that around to great defense. Pacquiao’s defense has been underrated,idiot.
In the past, Mayweather has opponents throwing one or two punches, so of course it would be easy for Mayweather to be a great counter-puncher.
Even in the Marquez fight, Marquez was throwing one or two punches and rarely anymore than that, which is why Mayweather dominated.
Marquez vs. Pacquiao bout, Marquez counter-punches,but with alot of punches like 4-7 and definately something that Mayweather does not do.
So, this will all go to Pacquiao for 6 round TKO for Pacquiao because he has the upper hand, basically, due to the endurance and foot work.
pacman will surely demolish floyd…
manny’s got a trainer who’s really a genius..
they surely knows how to pin down a chicken!
I can KO PBF in 1 round.
good article, but disagree with the outcome. pac man too fast, too powerful. pac stops mayweather late on.
Pacman does not need Mayweather. Manny is richer than the Pres. of the USA. He lives like a King in his native land while Mayweather is drowning in debts.
I think you are right on the money. Money is the best as adjusting to a fighter during the fight. I believe Pacman would throw everything but the sink in the first several rounds…but by round 9 or 10…Mayweather would have his number. Another good point: Mayweather is or looks just as strong in the 12th as he does in the 1st round. Pacman’s other apponants seemed to wear down in the later rounds. That will not happen with Money Mayweather.
Now I know that this fight is supposedly called off. But lets take a look at the scenario….
Floyd Mayweather, so supposedly unpopular but still makes a shed load of money from all his fights. Fighting Manny Pacquiao in one of the greatest fights ever. Floyd is a master at hyping up his own fights, what better way than to cause a ’scandal’ with all this drug testing to get the fans to buy in to this fight even more!
To me, I think that all of this is all part of the build up hype to make it good guy vs bad guy.
I’d be interested on all your opinions on this
KO WIN FOR PACQUIAO!!!!!!!!!!
Eh, i don’t see it that way. Mayweather’s 3 fights that goes after him (Jose Luis Castillo and Ricky Hatton), he had troubled in the beginning. Now, Pacquiao is in a much higher level than both of those guys and has a much better trainer with a great game plan. So, i wouldn’t count Pacquiao out that fast and calling a stoppage. Pacquiao has a lot of chances to beat Floyd Mayweather, remember that.