Sorting Out the Pacquiao Blood Test Quagmire
December 23rd, 2009
by Jason Alcairo: Before any of the usual inflammatory muckrakers (read: Hemorrhoids) continue to misconstrue the facts, let’s take a moment to present the facts involved in the still (hopefully) upcoming mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao.
Fact: Pacquiao is not afraid of having his blood taken. Pacquiao’s belief is that giving blood close to the fight within a certain period of time will weaken him. Regardless of any proof of the physical effect it may or may not, a psychological effect is not something that can be disproven. He does have tattoos though. Everyone knows that.
False: Pacquiao is unwilling to give blood. He is the one holding up the fight. (Anyone from the Mayweather camp)
Fact: As addressed in my first article, it is not the what but the when. The week of the press conference,no later than around Feb.13th,and after the fight are when he is willing to give blood. Immediately afterwards. So whatever he had in him going into the fight will be there after the fight. Again. Not unreasonable.
False: The USADA is the only fair way to test. (Adherents to the Juicer Conspiracy)
Fact: A Top Rank statement suggests the utilization of a different independent testing agency. Not unreasonable. It further quotes from an athletic physician Dr. Keith Pynes, who works with NFL athletes. He had this to say about the testing being sought.
““I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.”
False: Pacquiao taking the shots of a welterweight with no effect surely means he must be on something (Floyd Sr, Paulie Malignaagi)
Facts: Let’s take a look at the effects of steroids.
-Acne. Manny never seems to be covered in zits really anywhere if you look at him before a fight begins.
-Rapid weight gain. Again, observing the weights to which he rehydrated after making weight in his bouts since super featherweight, Manny weighs in and then swells back up a good 10-14 pounds on the night of the fight. There’s nothing rapid about it. He is simply able to exercise without killing himself to shrink down as much. Naturally, he can pack on more muscle allowing him to carry his speed and power up with him. As his nutrition improved, having come from a very poor background, his body responded and grew until he had to move up in weight.
-Aggressive behavior. Nope. Manny is always carefree,calm,and happy. Next.
-Jaundice. He’s naturally brown but his eyes have never looked anything more or less than normal. Nothing in steroid usage about pain imperviousness.
Human growth hormone can increase muscle mass, but not muscle strength. If Manny was taking HGH, it would slow him down with the increased bulk, hampering his well known speed. However, rice and a fish heavy diet will provide large amounts of protein. Coupled with his well known 5+hour training sessions, it should be of no surprise to anyone that he can gain and maintain a lean mass and knockout power. Being fed 5 times a day helps too. Finally,the Danish Sports Institute found in a study conducted that stamina decreases with HGH use.
That eliminates his solid, lean muscle build and incredible stamina as being the result of HGH use. Explaining his seemingly superhuman ability to withstand the hits of Miguel Cotto and come out smiling (and singing)? Simple. Pacquiao has his trainers beat him with a stick. Literally. This was displayed during the 24/7 series on his past fight. Beating himself with a stick in the ribs and legs will make any pain there seem minor. The mind is typically viewed as one of the greatest weapons one can rely on to get through the fight.This is no different.
So let the record shown that overly excessive blood tests are being demanded to disrupt the psychological poise of the #1 Pound for Pound fighter in the sport of boxing. This requires another compromise on both parties, which they should do. 3 times should be enough for Manny to test and alleviate any suspicions of steroid use. Except it won’t. Mayweather Sr will never allow this issue to die, and so long as people disregard the facts that are easily discernible from this whole situation, this entire matter will persist well beyond Manny or PBF.
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what the hell..
Take the freakin test…This is boxing not poker… Cards up Manny!!! Show your hands if you have nothing to hide…Floyd’s taking just as many test as you! It’s a blood test…the man is not asking you to wear pink gloves. If you felt disrespected by Floyd it’s a great thing you get the opportunity to punch him in the face. That’s how I see things?
Floyd Mayweather is the Pound-per-Pound CHICKEN!!!
CHICKEN RUN!!!!
yeah right, HGH!
manny’s not going to prove himself innocent, he’ll have his accusers prove that he is guilty. they accuse, then they provide evidence.
that’s the reason why people go to court!
and he’s not going to roll over either on somebody else demand, especially if it’s from floyd. NO WAY!
you see now how proud manny is as a champion, as the numero 1 out there!
floyd better face him in the ring or face him in court!
i got 3 letters for you guys… HGH
people think it’s about the test. it’s about the pride of a champion. you don’t treat somebody like a criminal whose hiding something, who believes he earned his being the #1 through hardwork. NO RESPECT AT ALL!
you don’t do that!
that’s why floyd is getting his ass sued!
now it’s either he face pacquiao in the ring or face him in court.
NO WAY OUT!
if floyd won’t fight manny in the ring and think that his unecessary dope test demand will bail him out,
then manny will sue his ass in court and make him prove his allegations.
if he choose to face manny in court then he really doesn’t want to fight him.
it’s a one way street now for floyd!
can’t you see, manny is a very, very proud champion. you don’t demand s##t like that from him. he is the one making the demand. he is not the boxing king for nothing.
it’s either face him in the ring, mano-a-mano, or floyd face him in court and prove his allegations.
either way, floyd has no escape, no ducking this time,
AND NO WAY OUT!
and it’s the king who calls the shot!
Steve,
Obviously we will disagree, but look at these simple facts. What weight did PBF fight at as a 16 year old american in Golden Gloves competitions? 106 lbs. What weight did Pacquiao fight at as an underaged street kid in the Philippines? 106 lbs. Who is the bigger of the two? PBF is. Yet no one has ever accused him of using PED’s. Manny didn’t beat Coto with one punch he peppered him with shots that Coto couldn’t see because of the angles he attacked him at and his quickness. The fight was stopped not because of a powerful knock out. He caught Hatton with a perfect shot. He did the same to DLH as he did to Cotto. It’s the repetitive shots that beat the heavier men. Its more getting hit when you don’t expect it repeatedly rather than his power that have beat the perceived bigger men. The fact is before he started getting paid the big dollars prior to having LA as his home training base Manny lived and trained in a third world country. Where its arice and whatever meat you can scrounge up diet. I implore you to travel there and go to the gym Manny trained in and find out how their nutrition is. If you take a kid from the projects who has raw talent but has never really had a good healthy diet and not only formally train him but feed him more and better than he has ever eaten in his life, wouldn’t they flourish and thrive. PBF grew up on Big Macs and steak dinners and still was 106 lbs at 16. My 16 year old son works out and is very slim is 5’9″ and weighs 140 lbs. He’s got a 28″ waist. When he hits adulthood there is no doubt he will add to his frame its common sense. That’s the problem here there is no common sense. Its boxing, and PBF and his camp who by the way is still bitter that Pacquiao isn’t in their stable of fighters are playing the role of the crooked boxing business. Its all about the hype and drama Golden Boy has profited from all of Pacman’s fights since 2006 and now they want to call Pacman out. Let’s face it they’re both great champions who have fought at 106lbs and moved their way up the only reason PBF doesn’t have as many divisions under his belt is cause he skipped a few. Let them fight and leave the bs behind.
How is Pacquiao different from Mosley as far as Golden Boy Promotions is concerned? When Mosley was to fight Judah, Shaeffer objected vehemently to drug-testing Mosley and deemed it unnnecessary. He even defended Mosley as not a “cheater” when in fact Mosley had done it already. And what about PED? Does it work the same way like spinach is to Popeye?! Will an average Steve be able to beat Pacquiao if he takes PED? No!
It is really a pity you all have been taken for a ride by a non-educated Mayweather Sr. with this steroids thing. Pacquiao should be emulated for being his own man. Remember Bobby Fisher (RIP)! Principles! It’s not all money! But of course, money is the cure-all for most Americans anyway.
Why not undergo extensive drug testing and face Floyd instead ?
Remember its PAC who pulled out not Floyd
if floyd doesn’t want to fight him in the ring, then they will see each other in court.
then manny will take care of malignaggi, another accuser. he will undergo extensive drug test and send malignaggi into coma.
yeah, that’s right he is suing floyd.
it’s either face him in the ring or face him in court!
he’s not giving floyd a way out of this. no, he cannot duck from this one.
nope, he is asking floyd to fight him in the ring!
it’s better for mayweather to fight manny instead of fighting a lightweight again or probably a bantamweight.
or if he wants, he can choose between mosley, margarito, williams or cotto, any quality or legit welterweight out there, instead if picking on lightweight or a junior welterweight and have them come up to welterweight.
Why is he calling Floyd a coward when it was Pac who pulled out ?
What a man Pac is suing Mayweather, then saying lets meetin the ring Mano a mano. Just no nasty needles or 10 mils of blood eh Manny. Manny needs to man up, nothing will take this away apart from a blood test. All this legal bull, is his way of forcing the fight and allowing himself not to be tested into the bargain. Its a shame a fighter who was universally respected, is losing that universal respect now.
Guest that is not a sensible answer, what are you expecting Floyd to do to prove it, hold Manny down and take some blood ?
In my opinion Mannys actions since being accused are suspicious. Thats mine and a lot of other people too. Its his choice what he does. Just like each and every potential opponent has the right to insist on the USADA drug testing too, as i am sure a lot will, if they are to fight.
I expect Manny will only fight men who don’t insist on the test. And continue to look amazing against them.
pacquiao is suing mayweather’s ass and will try to get some of the money that he should be earning on march 13. mayweather will miss tha $40 million on a cancelled fight and may have to pay pacquiao for damages. that’s not good news for him since he already have enough problems from the IRS.
but pacquiao is giving him an option:
‘Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr, don’t be a COWARD and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano’
‘if the guy is clean’ why? is the guy dirty?!? if somebody think so they should prove it!
the burden of proof is on the accuser. they should prove him guilty instead of him proving himself innocent. they will have to do that in the court of law where claims are back-up by evidence, not in the court of public opinion where mob rules.
there is nothing that manny did in the past that should put him under any suspicion of doping. the accusations are baseless.
beating de la hoya into retirement is not enough premise that manny is doping.
anybody who thinks that the nevada state athletic commision’s dope testing method is useless should apply as their commisioner and change the system.
until it’s change, don’t expect manny to comply. but for the sake of boxing he is willing to submit to certain blood test although it’s not required for him to do so.
is there a pro boxer before that took the USADA test?!?
none!
if nobody bother to take the test, why would manny?!?
nobody can push him to take something that he’s not required to. it’s his prerogative.
i,m glad he’s suing floyd’s ass. he’s turned the table on them by throwing the burden of proof on their side.
There was no doubt before, until Sr. had accused Pacquiao of using illegal substances. So in a way, it has already taken into affect what Sr. had said. That’s why there is a lawsuit.
Steve,
Once again what Manny has asked PBF to agree to is standard as per the guidelines and precedencs thast have occurred before. Like I said before what Manny has requested doesn’t falsely put a negative light on PBF. He has been tested throughout his career by the NGC and the governing organizations of boxing by their guidelines. If true reform should be made than it is something that needs to be addressed for the whole sport and not just this upcoming fight. If PBF was so pssionate about fairness and the PED testing his stance should have been known well before negotiations for this fight. When Sammy Sosa and Mark Mcguire were delling it out and the Andro contreversy broke you didn’t hear any players calling them out. There’s a certain respect between athletes and anything to do with this type of testing should be handled by officials who control regulations for the sport rather than during the negotiations of the biggest fight of this generation. If we worked together and were up for the same promotion would be fair for me to request you have a drug test because I suspected you of being a coke addict? Be real guys this is just a dirty ploy. No matter what Manny says if it isn’t what PBF requested than he will be looked upon as a cheater by a good portion of society. Manny’s legacy is bigger than his fight with PBF and Floyd’s just managed to bring him down a few with no proof other than his dad and Paulie malignaggi running their mouths.
Wow. I read that whole article and didn’t see any FACTS related to what happened, just twisted truths. Another biased writer who’s as bad as Perez.
RodB, what is so unreasonable about the drug testing request ? Its only an issue because Manny has made it so.
Manny frequently in his fights makes his opponents do things so he has an advantage.
This test gives Floyd no advantage at all, just ensures a level playing field.
Steve,
TRUTH’s comment is exactly what the desired reaction would be. It’s just a ploy and it’s working. Pacman will end up doing the drug testing, but to start this debate is truly the injustice. PBF whines publically and forces people to recognize his achievements while Pacman goes about his business. The real truth is Pacman’s demands are pretty standard, the penalty for being overweight for Mayweather is pretty steep, but he is okay at fighting at this weight. Whatever obviously without merit Pac will do the right thing it’s unfortunate that as the savior of boxing Pac has to have this light thrust upon him. Face it PBF doesn’t come out of retirement and No one would be even talking about the biggest PPV in history if Manny doesn’t do what he did this past year. I just hope this all pans out and they get it on.
VERY INTERESTING HOW MANNY WON’T DO THE OLYMPIC STYLE DRUG TESTING. WHAT’S THERE TO HIDE?
MAYWEATHERS HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME. THEY CAN’T CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF THE FIGHT, BUT THEY ARE SMART AS HELL. I SMELL A RAT!! AND IT’S A PAC RAT!!!
IF HE DOES AGREE TO THE DRUG TESTING, THEY SHOULD ALSO BE SURE TO DO A GOOD JOB CHECKING HIS HAND WRAPS BEFORE THE FIGHT. THIS GUY JUST MIGHT BE CHEATING.
Rodb, i am not saying it is fair how this has all come about, not saying that at all. But now that Pacquiao has been called out, he has acted in a manner that causes suspicion. He may be innocent. I hope he is innocent. He needs to prove he is innocent. Only he can do that, and it is easy.
To say he has passed every drug test he is required to in the rules is true, but thats only one thing. Cheats ( not saying he is ) find a way around the rules, thats why testers change their methods, or as in Olympic testing, make it entirely random so you cannot prepare for it.
To the guy who said he has weighed 145 for his last 7 fights, maybe but look at him against Cotto and Morales and tell me his structure is the same.
Rodb, i am not disputing anything you say, my only point is that there is doubt now, and only one man can stop that.
Has any fighter ever agreed to give up more than a third of their guaranteed purse for not making weight? That is unheard of.
manny be carefull with the mindless idiots out here we are so stupid we could see that tiger was up to no good and in the end he conffesd to us mindless idiots didnt he. i guess whe are not so mindless and idiots after all dull.
i only read the first part of your article and knew you are a pacman nuthugger fact the person that said pacman didnt like needles was arum maybe you should talk to him before you acues anybody else of making up things.
Correction to previous post…
But why would MANNY go up to a weight he’s never fought at, when Floyd is more than comfortable fighting at 147.
@ Mitch…
here is everything wrong with that last post…
First, why the hell should Manny fight at 154 with 10oz gloves? What reason would be for that? The only reason why Floyd said that was so the fight wouldn’t be at a catch weight. But why would Floyd go up to a weight he’s never fought at, when Floyd is more than comfortable fighting at 147.
The 10mil penalty was to prevent Floyd from coming over 147, which is reasonable because he’s broken weight before.
it’s not proven that Margacheato cheated against Cotto, and people still don’t really consider his loss a loss because of it. Cotto himself will tell you that Margacheato took nothing out of him. I’m more willing to believe him than you. Furthermore, what damage would be done to Floyd? Has Pac damaged any fighter so bad that he couldn’t fight anymore? DLH was already on his way out. Hatton got caught with a perfect punch that had nothing to do with steroids. My kid sister would knock you out if she landed with that punch.
Furthermore, there is nothing to suggest that this fight wouldn’t be fair. At least on Pacquiao’s part. The only thing saying that this fight wouldn’t be fair is a convicted drug dealer. If you hold that type of opinion highly, then you’ve got bigger problems than just being ignorant.
Lets be fair. Mayweather wanted to fight at 154lb but since Manny wanted 147lb, he agreed. Mayweather wanted 10oz gloves but since Manny wanted 8oz, he agreed. Mayweather also agreed to the $10 million over weight penalty. Now Mayweather wants Olympic style testing. Shouldn’t Pacman agree. Come on guys! Manny has to give up something. Isn’t that what NEGOTIATION is all about? It can’t all be on Manny’s terms. Right? I think that the Mayweather camp is trying harder than the Pacman camp to make this fight. Also, testing Manny after the fight is good but not good enough. Because if he Pacman were to win and he tests positive afterwards, the damage is already done. Look at Miguel Cotto. He was an excellent fighter, got cheated by Margarito, and hasn’t been the same since. We all deserve a fair fight and no matter how much you dislike the Mayweather’s, I’m sure you’d prefer to see Floyd beat fair and square. Or do you not care as long as he loses? If that’s the case, you’re not a true boxing fan.
Clear his name? What? See that is why PBF has done this so that the mindless minions who have access to a computer and the internet to express their ignorant opinion. Clear his name? Because he’s passed every drug test he has taken. Oh yeah that’s right Magic and Bird demanded Michael Fordan take a drug test because no one ever played like him. Hey Tiger’s gotta be on roids too let’s stick a needle in him, Lefty’s releasing a statement right now. Look at how skinny Tiger was when he won the US amateur get the man in and take his blood. Come on people PBF was I stress was the face of boxing and he never transcended the sport. The world has watched in awe at what Manny has done his last three fights and he has not only the people of one nation but the boxing fans of the world waiting to see what mountain he will climb next. Even at the height of his popularity PBF never generated that much heat. The only moron out there is the idiot who is trying to tarnish Pacman’s legacy and of course morons like you.
Hey Manny why don’t you have Freddy Roach hold your hand while you take the test and then when you are done the doctor can give you a sucker. What a wuss, it’s just a little blood. Trust you will see a lot more after Mayweather is done with you.
All Manny is doing is taking his belt off and hanging himself. Are you an idiot? Just take the test and clear your name. He is just adding gasoline to the fire. What an moron!
everyone forgets floyd is under the same circumstances as pacman. this is a joke , why even let the fighters know when they will be tested? it defeats the entire purpose of testing bc the person who cheats will only get a heads up and cycle off wte drugs they are on close to that date.
@Steve – USADA is not only the authority in these tests and Travis is not the only doctor that has the correct opinion. There are other doctors out there even more qualified if not in the same level who will argue his point. he is also riding in the bandwagon here. Obviously if he said something otherwise that will only mean their process of testing can be questioned. HE IS NOT the judge here and should not even allow himself to speak because he will be biased. Again, if he claimed otherwise, it will only male his organization useless.
Manny has already agreed to a blood test right after the fight is over. Why is that not sufficient enough for Mayweather? It seems that Manny doesn’t want to use WADA Testing because he doesn’t want to be subject to their random testing close to the fight. People are taking this a step further saying since WADA tests for HGH Manny is resisting the tests. Why don’t they just take the blood sample from the post fight and submit it to WADA? Then they can write into the contract that if Manny tests positive he will forfeit his purse. If Mayweather can’t agree to that, then he really is blowing up this whole issue to harass Manny
I’d rather like manny just to fight another boxer and get rid of this so called the best. His father said (Mayweather Sr.) with or without steroids his son will knock him out, so why the test now. Why suddenly a change of heart. Is PBF afraid? Is he ducking the pacman?Be real, if you are the best there is, no one will beat you.Just sign the contract and fight manny, end of the story.
Manny has already agreed to a blood test right after the fight is over. Why is that not sufficient enough for Mayweather? It seems that Manny doesn’t want to use WADA Testing because he doesn’t want to be subject to their random testing close to the fight. People are taking this a step further saying since WADA tests for HGH Manny is resisting the tests. Why don’t they just take the blood sample from the post fight and submit it to WADA? Then they can write into the contract that if Manny tests positive he will forfeit his purse. If Mayweather can’t agree to that, then he really is blowing up this whole issue to harass Manny.
manny has passed every required doping test out there. if they want to apply a new stringent, olympic style test make it official and make every pro boxer out there comply!
people don’t understand that pushing somebody to do something that he is not required to do and is from out of suspicion, is downright INSULTING.
IF THEY WANT AN OLYMPIC STYLE DOPING TEST, MAKE IT OFFICIAL AND MAKE EVERYBODY COMPLY TO IT!…
NOT ONLY IN TIME WHEN THEY ARE FIGHTING MANNY!!!!
IDIOTAS … Pacman agreed to blood testing 30 days before and right after the fight. If anyone of you have some medical knowledge, they will be able to find what they want to find. IDIOTAS !!! Cowardice on the part of Mayweather Camp. Simply dodging the killer punch of PACMAN.
Steve,
You have taken random drug tests I’m sure because it is a requirement at your place of employment and not because someone you work with slings an accusation out there. With regards to the weight issue Manny at 18 was a starving stryggling fighter from a developing country. When my father immigrated to north america he was thin as a rail as he prospered so did his diet. Manny has eaten a lot better than when he was 18. I implore you to show me anyone 5’6″ who weighs 106lbs in North America, unless she’s an anorexic teen aged girl. Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bernard Hopkins to name a few of the champions who have gone through the numerous weight classes and they weren’t from a developing country. Face it no professional athlete is subect to such testing especially in boxing. To chosse this stage to champion a new reformation of the rules is merely a ploy. Manny has brought boxing back from the brink and this just PBF’s way of taking it away and putting the attention on himself. Name any of the major sports that are subjected to this type of testing. Would you do a drug test that wasn’t’ required? Come on Steve be real.
What is your response to this statement
Travis Tygart, chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, said a blood test can allow testers to detect use of energy-boosting synthetic EPO, human growth hormone and “a number of potent performance-enhancers not detectable in urine. . . . With a [30-day] window like that, you could dope to the gills and get away with it.”
RodB also more people fail the random drug tests and miss the olympics than have their medals revoked.
RodB, i have to take random drug tests at work, as do my coworkers. I don’t have a problem with that. The reason i don’t is because i don’t take drugs.
There are PERFORMANCE ENHANCING drugs that do not show up in Urinalysis, that do show up in Blood tests. So as science improves are you suggesting we stick where we are at, enjoy the status quo, or do we move forward. You are right Olympians do get caught after events, but the second place person does not get beaten to a pulp and have their whole career ruined by a super charged drug cheat.
As of now, and i feel genuinely sorry for Manny if he is innocent, the only way he can clear his name is to take the test. He cannot pick another tester and different tests , or tests on certain days only. He needs to submit to random testing, pass the tests, and then take it all out on Floyd. Or he could say no, losing 20mils of blood weakens me too much………….
As for the weights of an 18 year etc you referred to, thats all very interesting. Now show me any other boxer in history who has moved up through the weights getting bigger, stronger, more durable and more devastating ? There is none.
Man up Manny, prove Floyd and the doubters of the world wrong. The ball is 100% in his court. Avoiding this test, will tar his entire career worse than a loss would.
This is chicken liver Mayweather get out card? he’s running scared!!! no one is surprise at this move by Mayweather to scupper the fight,at one time i did think highly of him but his constant move to cherry pick smaller fighters has tarnish his legacy,fight Mosley and show some balls!! or provably the best thing would be to call it a day and don’t come back because 40,0 is only as good as the Quality of boxer fought which is the same criticism level at Calzaghe.
Nothing to hide, take the test. The way forward is for all fighters to be available for random testing.
This compromise for a blood test might just work:
Arum, the Top Rank honcho and promoter of pound-for-pound champion Manny Pacquiao, yesterday told the press that Pacquiao will agree to blood testing but only if it’s administered by those in charge of the NBA, NFL and the Major League.
Steve, Here are a couple of things for you to ponder.
-There are drug testing guidelines put in place by the Nevada Athletic Commission already. Is it up to PBF or his camp to change that rule?
-Pacquiao has agreed to blood tests before the pre fight announcement and 30 days before the fight and immediately after the fight. This too is above and beyond the current guidelines.
- At the Olympics it is quite often the tests administered after the event that disqualify athletes resulting in their medals being taken away.
- How much did you weigh when you were 18? The target weight for an average male at 5′ 6″ is 148 lbs. I know that I am quite a bit heavier then I was at 18 and I am in great shape and work out 5 times a week.
- Isn’t the current status quo of your current profession one that you have been in your whole career good enough?
The bottom line here is that regardless of the out come PBF’s camp has cast a shaddow of doubt on Manny’s legacy whether he’s guilty of using HGH or not, but what kind of advantage could be gained by using HGH between the dates that he has agreed to take the tests.
Let’s face it cheats are caught at the Olympics with the test they do right after the completion of their event. The fact that Manny has agreed to take the tests that are already above and beyond what his sport requires is proof enough that he is willing to be tested, just not on PBF’s terms.
By the way Steve your coworker wants you to do a drug test before you go to work Monday morning.
This just in…Will Mayweather agree? Seems fair. A compromise.
Arum okays tests; will Floyd agree?
By Abac Cordero (The Philippine Star) Updated December 25, 2009 12:00 AM
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Bob Arum
MANILA, Philippines – Bad blood continued to run between the two camps and unless Floyd Mayweather’s camp agrees to a compromise being offered by Bob Arum then the fight being billed as the biggest fight of the new century will definitely go down the drain.
Arum, the Top Rank honcho and promoter of pound-for-pound champion Manny Pacquiao
, yesterday told the press that Pacquiao will agree to blood testing but only if it’s administered by those in charge of the NBA, NFL and the Major League.
Larry , firstly Roy Jones has been proven to take drugs, as has Sugar Shane Mosely.
Pac is the first fighter to move up in weight ( by nearly 50% of his original body weight ) and become more durable, hit harder and retain all his speed. Just look at Durans lightweight reign and his middleweight fights, or Hearns at welter and Hearns at middleweight. Even Sugar Ray Robinson who was a devastating welter, was beaten repeatedly at middlweight and failed to win the light heavyweight title. Name another fighter to move up and become more powerful and more durable.
Some people say its unfair on Pac to make him do these tests that no other fighter has ever had to do. I thought it unfair that Cotto is the only welterweight champion EVER who was forced to weigh 145. I could beat Klitchko at 160 and become the heavyweight champ. Mayweather has to make the weight or forfeit $10,000,000, thats a first too.
Fair or not, 20 mils of blood has no physical effect, and it will be the same for Floyd even if it were true. It certainly has less physical effect than being forced to shed 2lbs.
Pac has been called here and he is refusing the tests, and the know nothings who say the timing of the tests does not matter are wrong. There are plenty of drugs that can be taken that hide other drugs, some drugs have their traces out of the system in 2-3 days, but the effect is still there. Random testing is the way to prevent this, or at least catch the perpetrators. Pac will forever look guilty, if he does not take the tests. There will always be doubt. His legacy will be tarnished. Only one man can alter that now and it is Pac, by taking the test, taking it clean.
I am neither a Pac fan or a Mayweather fan, simply a boxing fan. Plenty of sporting legends have cheated before, so lets know for certain Pac, take the tests. Not one from Top Rank ( how could they ever be biased ) but one from USADA.
So what FMJ and his fans are saying is that Manny might be on something because he has moved up in weight divisions and won. So what does that say about Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran,Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., and the rest of the fighters that won at higher weight classes? This is just an excuse for FMJ and his fans to cancel the fight. FMJ sounds scared because he never worried about level playing fields before, example what he did about the catch weight with JMM? Some sportsman?
Gerry,
maybe this is your first time here.
Authors on this site are not real journalists, they always make things up. Go to a real news site like the BBC. you will find a quote from roach that says “When Manny gives blood it takes him three or four days to recover from it. I am not going to have my fighter going into a fight feeling weak and not sure of himself”
they are concerned about physical effects not the psychological effects
Is it because Mayweather snr just doesn’t like Freddie and is basically jealous of the attention and recognition he gets.
Is it because Pretty boy can’t/won’t accept that it’s possible for someone to train like a M.F. and be as strong, as fast and as agile as someone who genuinely believes he was touched by God when it came to giving out natural talents?
Either way, i think its all bollocks. An exceptional Marketing ploy aimed at making the super fight into the event of the decade. It will go ahead, Manny by late round TKO (corner retirement), then the real excuses will begin…
1st of all floyd mayweather JUNIOR ! isnt acusing manny of roids ..second , why not man up and take any test ?? this is more than likely the biggest fight ever.. floyds foes have made demands on him for years ..like delahoya choosing the gloves ,the ring, the purse and the fighting weight!! which OSCAR came in over ..f.m.j. didnt shed a tear !!he just took care of buisness . bob arum n company needs to man up and make manny sissy take the tests..you make all these demands on floyd [dont weigh too much]etc..but when any demand in on your fighter all of a sudden you threaten to pull out of the fight !! BOB ARUM shut your pie hole and insist your fighter take the test ..unless you have something to hide !! hmm
Why is it ‘fair’ to demand a blood test when no other boxing match conducted in Nevada has to do one? It’s simple: 1. are there banned substances only a blood test can detect? 2. will Pacquiao be still able to dope and go undetected with the 3 blood tests proposed by Top Rank (1 before press conference, 1 a month before and 1 after fight)? If the answer to both questions is YES, then Pacquiao should agree to one more test in between to shut them up. If the answer to either one is NO, then there’s no reason for Pacquiao to accept anything more.
This author explained it that it’s psychological for Manny if his blood is taken close to the fight yet many comments here are still saying that the small amount of blood does not physiologically harm the body. What part of psychological do these people don’t understand. A phobia is psychological. I have a phobia of snakes but somebody would still insist that some snakes are not poisonous, what am I afraid off? Too many idiots in this world.
maan this guy talks more tripe than tripe!!!
Mayweather running scared is not what I thought I would be thinking before all this roid crap hit the fan. You know the truth Mayweather admit it and just get on with the fight! Dont stoop to trying to psyc manny out.Knock him out if your man enough,if not go back to your hollywood pad play with your kids and watch reruns of your old fights. Manny’s gonna show yow to behave in and out of the ring.
Jason, you are apparently, blatantly biased in favor of Pacquiao. Are you an expert on drugs or drugs-testing? I think Mayweather’s request for a blood test is fair and professional for a proposed fight of this magnitude. What does Manny have to hide? Floyd is willing to take the necessary tests, so why shouldn’t Manny be required to do the same?
Jason, be fair, so that the better fighter can win fairly!
Yesterday, yesterday he would have been able to sell out the arena but not today. Not everyone is prepared to pay money to see a drug user.
All of this is doing more harm to FMJ than Manny. FMJ needs Manny. Manny doesn,t need FMJ. Pacman could fight anyone and sell out the arena. FMJ will be forced to fight the top fighters (Mosley,Berto,Williams,Martinez). No one will pay to see him fight a small guy moving up in weight to fight, that got old real quick. FMJ needs to take this fight no matter what and get the money so he could retire or get nothing and fight the top fighters which he won’t do. He retired the last time he had to fight the winner of the Mosley/cotto fight.
London UK,
They are mentioning it now you idiot, and it’s sticking to him like a gecko on heat.
Funny, no one has ever mentioned anything about roids in Pac’s whole career.
Mayweather’s scared and looking for excuses.
I suppose the only way we will ever know is when these two legends are in the ring slugging it out! Let’s hope the fight does happen in the end and looking forward to all the comments on this site afterwards.
king of roids you mean. how many of those fights did he win with steroids, and how long has he been taking steroids?
so his record is tarnished.
Rubbish!!! Mayweather is running scared for sure. He has never requested anything like this before.
No performance juice will vanish straight after a fight and Pac has agreed to get tested then. There is no need for anything more than that.
These actions from Mayweather has made me lost complete respect for him. If you are scared, then simply refuse the fight. Don’t try and make the other fighter look bad when the the rest of the world loves and respects him.
Look at the P4P rankings, look at the world rankings, look at the no. of records held. MANNY IS KING!!! The world knows it, Mayweather knows it.
He is only unbeaten because he hasn’t faced Manny.
Cowardly, is all I can say!
bawk bawk bawk bawk bawk
steroid freak!!
“what a joke what has pacquiao got to hide? weakened by giving blood! are you serious? they take a tiny sample! hes not donating a pint you idiots. hes either got something to hide or hes acting like a baby”
Are YOU serious? He agrees to a blood test immediately after the fight. So steroids magically disappear after a fight? He’s a spiritual guy, but you wouldn’t know that because you probably don’t understand the spirit of a warrior. Mental state is just as strong as physical.
what a joke what has pacquiao got to hide? weakened by giving blood! are you serious? they take a tiny sample! hes not donating a pint you idiots. hes either got something to hide or hes acting like a baby
guest,
I will give you a few names, Marion Jones, Dwain Chambers, Floyd Landis, Tim Montgomery. Do you think these athletes are still the darlings of the the sports critics?
why would floyd demand manny to submit to extra dope test when he didn’t demand it form oscar, marquez, hatton, and the rest of the guys?!?
he just want to embarass manny!
FLOYD BELIEVES THAT HE IS THE BEST OUT THERE BUT ALL OF THE AWARD GOES TO MANNY..P4P KING, FIGHTER OF THE YEAR AND PROBABLY OF THE DECADE, DARLING OF THE PRESS AND OF CRITICS, LOVE BY BOXING FANS EVERYWHERE, EVEN BEAT HIM AT THE GATES THIS YEAR…
WHATEVER YOU READ IT’S ALL ABOUT MANNY!!!
floyd wants to take them all away from manny that’s why he’s doing this!
Blood tests don’t weaken you. It’s not like they are going to draw a pint of blood to test. Riders in the tour de france have blood drawn almost daily then go out the next day and ride over 100 miles hard at high elevation with massive gains in elevation.
Other than him refusing the test, what proof do you have that he is on steroids? He has explained that blood tests weaken him as he already experienced it, but you simply don’t believe him.
So what else makes you so sure he is on steroids? I’m pretty sure it’s severely stupid.
BTW, nothing that another man does is proof that Pacquiao is on steroids.
REMEMBER WHEN PACMAN LOST TO MORALES(1ST MATCH)? I HEARD IT WAS RELATED TO THE BLOOD TESTING AGAIN, FOR SOME REASON IT AFFECTS HIM PHSYCOLOGICALY. AGAIN, HE IS VERY SUPERSTITIOUS. PLUS, HE IS NOT OBLIGED ON BLOOD TESTING NWAYS, IF HE IS, WHY NOT THE REST OF THE PROFESSIONAL BOXERS OUT THERE? HE ALREADY AGREED ON 3 TESTING, WHY MORE? SPECIALLY RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT, WHERE IF THE PERSON IS REALLY ON ENHANCING DRUGS, IT COULD BE EASILY DETECTED. THEN WHAT IS THE DEAL? THE ONLY REASON THE MAYWEATHER’S CAMP IS PUSHING THIS MULTIPLE BLOOD TESTING IS TO ATTACK THE PACMAN’S MENTAL CONCENTRATION IN THIS FIGHT. HOPING IT WILL WEAKEN HIM AND LOST THE FIGHT. VERY UNFAIR! MAYWEATHER ONLY FIGHTS AGAINTS GREAT FIGHTERS THAT HE THINKS HE WILL WIN FOR SURE. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AGAINTS MARQUEZ? HE WENT OVER A COUPLE OF POUNDS DURING WEIGH INS AND GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH HE GAINED AFTER THAT LEADING TO THE ACTUAL FIGHT. HE CLEARLY DOMINATED THE FIGHT. IF HE DOESNT WANT TO FACE PACQUIO THEN DON’T, BUT FACE ANOTHER GREAT FIGHTER LIKE COTTO,MOSLEY,OR MATGARITO. STOP YOUR CHERRY PICKING, IT SICKENS THE REST OF US BOXING FANS. ITS ALL B.S. !!!
graham,
Extra training can help. So can the extra muscle in his legs which can contribute to a strong foundation but if he’s not willing to give blood in a certain window, that’s suspicious.
@ graham
the media is voting manny as fighter of the year and probably of the decade. general public thinks mayweather is buying his way out. there is a new interview with cotto and he’s giving manny full props. timothy bradley wants to fight him if it didnt work out with floyd. manny is the darling of boxing critics and i don’t think the mayweathers can change that with their tricks.
so who? i don’t buy it either. i give manny full props for standing his ground. i don’t think he finish college but they don’t twist his head around. he don’t owe mayweather nothing and he’s not rolling over for him. roach and arum stood their ground as well and didn’t play into floyd’s game.
willdtw,
are you saying manny cannot benefit from extra training and extra muscles? are you serious?
if its a matter of life and death to adhere to Mayweather’s testing suggestion, let’s put off all boxing fights for now and take it with boxing commissions. Otherwise, this whole thing is a charade against Pac.
Floyd is a douche but he will probably never lose a fair fight. If Manny is not willing to give blood at the same time as Mayweather then Manny is the one with something to hide. Why does everyone keep saying hgh and anabolic steroids? This isn’t football, this isn’t baseball, this isn’t power lifting. Those drugs would NOT be beneficial for a boxer going 12 rounds. If you have ever seen the Tour de France you will know that every year riders get busted for blood doping and taking drugs such as epo which help maintain power and extend endurance.
guest,
when i say people i mean the media, other boxers (like the ones he will want to fight after this one), the paying fans, and the general public (i heard this guy was planning to go into politics, surely this cannot be good for him).
And of course he is not going to be treated differently because mayweather is taking the same tests.
@ graham
people who? you? floyd sr? malignaggi?
there should not be a separate rule applied to him. if he should undergo this test, every pro boxer out there should also! HE’S NOT GOING TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY!
all of them should! unless they make this an official rule he’s not obliged to go thru it.
he owe nobody an explanation. as far as he is concerned he pass them all doping test he has been and if they want him to undergo a different dope test then it should apply to everyone.
hes not going to be treated differently!
the Mayweathers are playing dirty tactics and pachaters buy it lol
Blood test can be taken after the fight why insist days before the fight? have common sense! it is a TRICK! He is just afraid that’s it! Mayweather should never be again be regarded as a good boxer but just a coward and a FRAUD!
“will be manny paquiao, with or without floyd”
You are wrong guest.
if he does not take these random blood tests he will never be plain “manny pacquiao” people will not forget this. They will always suspect him of taking drugs.
I did have to laugh when Floyd, Jr. said Pacquiao should agree to the blood testing in fairness to sportsmanship.
Where was that sportsmanship when he came in two pounds overweight for his last fight September 19 against Juan Manual Marquez? And then refused to lose it. The fight where neither the fighter nor promoter (Golden Boy) would tell the public even what weight the fight was being fought at until the actual weigh in?
if manny should undergo this test, every pro boxer out there should also! WHY WOULD HE BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST!?! it’s a stupid demand!
manny owes nobody an explanation. as far as he is concerned he pass all them dope test he’s been.
he doesn’t owe floyd anything that he has to satisfy his demand. floyd don’t make the rules. manny pacquiao will be manny paquiao, with or without floyd.
This testing after the fight is BOGUS… Ask Cotto if he would be ok with Margarito being caught after his fight with loaded gloves. “Yeah you ruined my career with that beating but its ok cause the fight is now a no contest and you get penalized.” THATS IS STUPID LOGIC!!! IT WOULD BE TOO LATE YOU MORONS!!!! WTH??? You idiots are saying MAN UP FLOYD FIGHT THIS GUY EVEN THOUGH HE WONT ADHERE TO RANDOM UNSCHEDULED DRUG TESTING… If you dont youre a wuss.. LOL are you idiots serious???
My hope is Manny is clean and he takes his ass whoppin back to Bag city for all of his country men to enjoy.
Grow up pac fans… this ignorance is disgusting.
Manny has agreed to give blood samples but only on dates that suit him.
He has agreed to tests being carried out by independent agencies but not by the country’s number one independent testing agency the USADA.
This smells fishy.
Manny, what are you hiding?
Furthermore, why are people that support Pac Filipino? Why does race have to come into this? It’s not like people are saying that people who support Floyd are Black. That’s straight up hatin right there. Come on, there aint that many Filipinos in the world.
Ahh this whole thing reeks of ridiculous irony.
If Marquez requested Mayweather to take a steroids test, he wouldn’t do it either. He’d say things like, “i’ve never tested dirty, look at my track record” or “Marquez is just afraid to lose that he thinks i’m on steroids” or “I’m Money May, I make the demands, I don’t follow them”. You know damn well that that’s what he’d say if the tables are turned. The only reason why he doin this now is for a mental advantage. Even if it’s stupid to think that the blood test will weaken him, it’s still something that Floyd can use to get into manny’s head.
He playing like all he wants is a fair fight. Why now? Why not make a fair fight with Marquez. Why make Hatton come out of his best weight class?
This is not the first time Mayweather has used the media to get into his opponent’s head. Remember all the crap he talked about Corrales? How he kept talking about him going to jail for beating his wife. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Is that the example of sportsmanship?
People who are convinced that Manny is on steroids based on his refusal to test are ignorant indeed, and only believe so because dumb ass Floyd sr. says so. Like he’s got any credibility.
It sounds a lot like how people say FLoyd is a joke because he won’t test himself in the ring and fight quality opposition. And the one time he is doing it, he can’t even go in straight up.
Floyd’s ring abilities are out of this world. It’s a shame that God gave those talents to such a joke of a human being. Sad
FACTS!
Mayweather is full of excuses, he just do’nt want to fight Manny. Manny is his biggest fear.
He said he do not want to fight Mosley becoz Mosley uses steroid against Margarito.
He said he do not want Cotto becoz Cotto is already a damage fighter after Margarito’s fight.
He said he do not want Margarito becoz Margarito uses concrete paddings in his gloves.
What a lame excuses….
He may have the skills but he do not have the HEART and GUTS.
” Rmijn says:
December 24, 2009 at 1:12 am
It’s Not enough taking Tests After Fight.
The Thing to do Doping is doing it right, what is to take drugs while
Training, improve stamina etc. And get clean untill Next Test
so Random Test is the only Thing
Jason, your expert thoughts weather One is on Steroide or Not
are Not facts, only thoughts of a moron
only fact is Testing, no One can think à sighttest like You’rs is a fact
fp, which moron can think that Lance Armstrong is clean?
À man whose old Tests made later on with New testing Methode showed He has taken Epo
just because the à-example of His Blood
was Not available anymore He wasn’t Found guilty
He has Beeten prooved dopers who were Full
of drugs in A stunning way, nowyou Tell
me what Kind of retard One has to Be
to think Armstrong is clean.”
And you think Manny can do that in 30 days? Let’s assume Manny can do that, do you think Mayweather will not do the same? Admit it Rmijn, Mayweather is just looking for a way out. He doesn’t want to fight Manny, that’s all about it. He is just making a big fuss about this stupid drug testing.
it’s not about taking the test it’s about standing up to a brat!
why would manny let somebody treat him differently?!?
did floyd ask any of his past opponents to undergo such test?!? what is he trying to imply?!?
then why would manny undergo such test!?! does he owe floyd anything that floyd can order him around?!?
if manny should undergo this test, every pro boxer out there should also. why would he allow anybody to treat him differently!
manny don’t owe malignaggi, cintron and everybody an explanation. as far as he is concerned, he passed every dope test he’s been.
manny, bob arum, and roach did the right thing. they stood up againts this brat!!!
What is the reason behind all these demands? Why these demands weren’t there when he fought ODLH, Hatton, Judah and other boxers?
Simply because FLOYD you are scared of PACMAN. Chicken.
maybe manny doesn’t care a bit for what the crack-headed mayweathers’ have to say, because he knows he’s clean.
i hope no amount of emotional blackmail will persuade manny to change his mind. i hope he adopts the “i don’t care who says what” attitude and continues holding his head high, knowing he’s clean and better than mayweather in credibility, stature and caliber.
guys,guys….manny will take the drug test…
and i’m pretty sure he’ll put all of this damn thing in front of mayweather on the said fight.
so floyd, beware!
..chicken style won’t work this time!
Wait, despite all of your “facts” some of which i found interesting i ask you: Have you ever heard of an athlete wanting to be caught using performance enhancing drugs? Also if the drugs exist then there is a way to mask it from tests especially ones that don’t involve giving blood. Yes this could all be a psychological ploy and to some extent im sure it is but for Manny to refuse the tests saying it will weaken him is nonsense. If as you claim it will damage Manny’s mindset come fight night then he is a lot weaker mentally than we give him credit for. I don’t think Manny will be scared off that easily but, if he refuses the tests at random times it is unavoidable that questions will be asked of him. Maybe even slightly damaging his reputation. He doesn’t deserve that.
Take the tests both of you and lets Rumble… in the ring not around the table.
After all had been said and done this mega fight will still not going to happen people lets just wait for Mathew Hatton vs Floyd Jr. that would be another mega fight Iam sure it would be a sold out fight.
It’s Not enough taking Tests After Fight.
The Thing to do Doping is doing it right, what is to take drugs while
Training, improve stamina etc. And get clean untill Next Test
so Random Test is the only Thing
Jason, your expert thoughts weather One is on Steroide or Not
are Not facts, only thoughts of a moron
only fact is Testing, no One can think à sighttest like You’rs is a fact
fp, which moron can think that Lance Armstrong is clean?
À man whose old Tests made later on with New testing Methode showed He has taken Epo
just because the à-example of His Blood
was Not available anymore He wasn’t Found guilty
He has Beeten prooved dopers who were Full
of drugs in A stunning way, nowyou Tell
me what Kind of retard One has to Be
to think Armstrong is clean
yeah.. i heard that mayweather wanted to fight calderon at 154
I think mayweather wants to fight calderon so he can be 41 – 0
timothy bradley might be a more exciting opponent than floyd jr. i think floyd is looking for a bantamweight. he’s not interested in fighting a quality welter.
people didn’t get it right. manny’s strong not because he drinks his own pee like marquez, he’s drinking roach’s…or probably that of the security personel at wild card.
jokingly aside, if i’m manny, why should i give in to floyd’s demand. as far as i’m concerned, i’ve never failed a dope test before. i don’t owe him anything and he don’t make me. the hell with floyd!
floyd want to slow down manny ,as manny can punch non stop all night.if he can slow down manny .he has a better chance.
Heres another solution both of them take the drug test after the fight so none of them will feel drained. That would be fair. Or both can take steriods that will also be fair.
you will never be sure what the test result would be,what you ate ,all nature things etc. would be funny if floyd test positive and pac test negative ,you get what you dish out.
finally, someone can look at the facts, mayweathers using their wanna be smart looking appearance, which they are not, they just want to harrass manny, these peopple needs to learn how to respect others. all they think about are themselves, i can go on forever, but ill cut it here.
Americans sucks…. If other foreign fighters is beating up their fighters a black and blue, they are complaining… Now their fighter named Mayweather wouuld surely loss to pacman, they are screaming pac is on steroid? Get a life…. i would might as well accuse Mayweather is on steroid too because of his “winning records”… And what about mayweather sr? A person convicted of drug related cases DOES NOT have the credibility to accuse other people of drugs..perhaps he is stil high on drugs…THIS IS CLEARLY MAYWEATHERS WAY OF AVOIDING PACMAN… ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH PROVE IT IN THE BOXING RING NOT WITH YOUR MOUTH.
And for all those who accusse Pacman is on steroids, you are just telling the world what a bum anti doping system you got in America… that every athlete you have there is on steroids too…. and that you are a nation full of cheater athletes…
it’s not about taking the test, it’s about standing up to a brat.
if manny should take the test, every pro boxer out there should also. why is floyd jr asking manny only to undergo amatuer type testing. why not ask marquez who drinks his own pee, odh, hatton, etc. why he asking manny only?!? what is he trying to arrived at?!? he think he can embarass manny by doing this. because right now there is so much reason for him to envy manny. manny is on the centerstage now…darling of critics, p4p king, boxer of the year and probably of the decade, has put the sport to newspaper headlines again, has beaten him on pay per view this year….thats why hes trying to embarass manny!!!
THE BEST ARTICLE I HAVE READ IN THE PAST TWO DAYS!
WELL DONE MISTER JASON ALCAIRO!!
maybe pakman should demand also that they be tied from waist and foot so that no running during the fight……
“no more mayweather kool-aid, i ain’t drinking that nomore.
i am now a pacfan” pdiddy
Here is a fact for all of you. Floyd Mayweather contols who he fights by picking the fighter. In this case he has no other means than to make this fight his way or the highway. Fact of the matter is everyone is more than willing to pay to see this MEGA FIGHT.His middle name is “MONEY”. Now give our public what it wants Mayweather.
VICTOR
The idiot that wrote this article is full of crap.. Pacquiao is on roids and fact he won’t take tests because he doesn’t want to get caught.. Let’s remember fact both fighters would be under the same testing rules at the same time..stop kissing ass and tell the truth.. He is a roid product thar doesn’t want to get caught…..The tests are random and not so close to the fight and Floyd would have to take the same tests stupid! Meaning it would be a level playing ground .. Write that fact moron.. PAC is lookin fit every avenue out not to get caught… He is a cheat and the writer if this article is a Filipino fan trying to justify a cheater..
“alphonso” It’s not that each fighter does the same testing. It’s the fact that Mayweather is doing the extreme. If Pacman said, “hey Mayweather, you need to be at 150lb 45 days before the fight, 149lbs 30 days, 148 at 15 and 147lbs the day at the fight” Will Mayweather agree to that? NO! It’s not like he can’t do it. HE CAN. Mayweather won’t do it becuase PACMAN is ordering for him to do it. EVEN though this is NOT a requirement in a fight. If anyone can’t beyond what mayweather is doing, then you are cattle following the herd to slaughter.
alphonso is one dumb guy! do you think manny will risks taking HGH and then after the fight; win, lose or draw, results will show up as positive? Let me explain it for you, he won’t take it!
this is just a plain and simple harassment concocted by mayweathers camp. mafia sytle…. basing from pakmanvsmorales1. this is not good for the sport, but for mmayweathers advantage and interest only…
USADA, WADA, UCI are only good for a witch hunt. Yes, they definitely keep athletes in bay but when a champion is a champion, they go after him/her.
Article ref:
“Travis Tygart would have us believe that his only focus in this matter is getting at the truth. His actions, however, and the actions of his hired minions, suggest to me that this is just about winning and losing.”
Yep. This guys will ALWAYS think the champion is guilty. Ask Lance Armstrong. He knows him well.
he’s willing to take the blood test IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIGHT! if he’s taking anything, it will show up.. idk what the big deal is
Very well said. Now can we please hear more from the medical experts. I think Manny has already acceeded to more than enough testing (3 blood tests an 24/7 unrinalysis).
I believe the Mayweathers are on to attack Manny’s psyche.
If he cheated just take the belt away from him
Mannys willing to take a blood test right after the fight closes the whole issue