Of Superstition & Old Wives’ Tales: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather
December 24th, 2009
By Steve Lewis: We have seen and heard about it many times already on the internet, the television, and even on the radio: the biggest fight of the decade could go down the tubes over drug testing procedures!
Rather than rehash what many others have already said, allow me to touch up on the mindset of superstitious people (and believe me, there are plenty of them in professional sports), and the impact of breaking superstition.
People from developing countries tend to be more superstitious than those from more developed nations. Such is the case with WBO Welterweight Champion, Manny Pacquiao.
Perhaps it was ingrained in him as a youth, when he was probably told of tales about falling lizards when umbrellas are opened up inside the house, or of vengeful Smurf-like dwarf beings who could curse you should you carelessly step on one of their tiny little villages. Whatever the case might be, Pacquiao is known as a superstitious individual and a creature of habit. Ask the folks at the MGM about how Pacquiao has to have the same room every time. Would it really make a difference if he were given a similar room down the hall or one floor below? Apparently for Pacquiao, it does.
Similar to the notion that having sex before a major sporting event would lead to sub-par performance (though studies indicate that this is more of an old wives’ tale), Pacquiao feels that the drawing of blood so close to a fight would weaken him.
The amount of blood needed for these tests are minimal, and will have no effect on a person’s PHYSICAL state…and I do emphasize the word “physical.” Someone who has a superstitious disposition, however, will be more affected MENTALLY if forced to break superstition.
Now I do not consider myself a superstitious type. However, I can recall the many times I have refused to move from a particular spot on the couch or scolded someone about moving from where they were standing at when my beloved football team was playing, as if the team’s fate rested on where I sat or where my friends were positioned. And when I was younger, I thought the Lakers championship run was dependent on whether a particular aunt was watching the game on television or not. Silly, I know, but imagine how it is for the truly superstitious, who genuinely believe that the ways of nature are not always according to logic and science.
The mental impact that the Olympic-style testing could have on Pacquiao could be immense. If he believes that his vital life juices have been sucked from him and cannot perform at optimal levels, he will not be in the right frame of mind to compete. How many times have we seen a highly ranked college football team, who was favored to play for the national title, only to be upset by a defeat a game before the championships, thus sending them to a less desired bowl game against a less regarded team, who would in turn defeat this formerly regarded team because they were no longer in the right frame of mind? Was it because they were overrated and could not even defeat this less regarded opponent? No. It was due to a mental letdown of not being able to play for a national title, and instead, having to settle for a secondary bowl game.
Such could be the fate of Manny Pacquiao. But I do believe that Pacquiao has enough fortitude to still pull off an upset victory. If Pacquiao can weather through the distractions of catastrophic typhoons, the filming of movies and TV shows, and the constant courting by political sharks and leeches, he certainly can overcome blood tests.
And what of these blood tests? Manny Pacquiao’s camp had already agreed to do three blood tests: one to be done before the kick-off press conference to announce the fight, another one 30 days before the fight (no later than Feb. 13), and one right after the fight in Pacquiao’s locker room. Floyd Mayweather’s camp is concerned that not being able to randomly choose a testing date would allow Pacquiao to “play” the calendar.
To me, this would imply that you can conceivably flush out HGH’s out of your system within 30 days after injecting it, and that having it flushed out of your system (or injecting HGH only once or twice) can actually do enough good to improve your performance.
It is my understanding (albeit limited) that HGH and other performance-enhancing drugs need to be taken in longer stretches to be most effective. This is not like a can of spinach that instantaneously makes Popeye super strong after just one serving! And similarly, once it is no longer in your system (especially after a short term intake), can it really still be that advantageous for the user? It would seem like drinking a big cup of coffee three days before you actually plan to pull an all-nighter! What good would that do?
Most people see Mayweather’s ploy as exactly that…a ploy. He has placed Pacquiao in a compromising situation where it can be a lose-lose proposition for the Filipino champ. Refuse the test and be clouded with suspicion, or take the test and possibly compromise your mental state of mind.
It is like the poor schmuck at the airport shortly after the 9/11 tragedies. Airport security wanted to see whether he was hiding anything in his rectal cavity, despite having no probable cause to be suspicious in the first place. The poor schmuck says, “No way! I’m not hiding anything!” “Well then,” replied the officer, “if you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn’t worry about us doing a cavity check.” Sure enough, there was nothing. But the indignity of getting probed intimately never sits well.
For Pacquiao, this is an opportunity to clear the record, and to shut the “roids” conspiracy theorists up once and for all. This is an opportunity to show that despite what hoops they make you jump through, that you will still smash through and exceed expectations. For boxing fans, we hope you relent to Mayweather’s demands.
For Mayweather, you are a very skilled boxer. So skilled in fact that your own father stated that you can defeat Pacquiao, whether he’s on steroids or not. This is an opportunity to prove what you have always claimed – that you are the best of all-time. For boxing fans, we hope you drop the unnecessary demands, and face Pacquiao.
So my Christmas wish is that we are granted a clean (again, a clean) competitive fight for the ages.
Can’t wait for the face-to-face showdowns. But don’t forget, Manny and Floyd. Don’t be making funky faces. I heard if a bad wind blows, your face could get stuck that way.
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Pacquiao wants to submit to any drugtest but he didn’t want USADA to do it, because they compromise with PBF and Golden Boy. According to the news, Pacquiao was concerned that his training will be sabotage if the drugtest body was recommended by Floyd Mayweather and his Promoter. This drug test is easy for Pacquiao if and only if the Blood Testing Body wasn’t recommended by Mayweather nor Golden Boy. I recommend that the NEVADA must be the one who will choose the body who will conduct the blood test. This won’t allow either Pacquiao or Mayweather’s camp to sabotage the result. The truth will be prevailed in the end.
The lead author of the study, Dr. Hau Liu of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center in San Jose, California stated, that it does not help athletic performance in any way. Dr. Liu even went as far as to state that it may worsen athletic performance a bit. The study found that HGH does add muscle, but they found that it does not appear to improve strength. They did find that HGH actually caused side effects such as swelling and fatigue. Spread the word. It takes skills, speed, and defense.
New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury
consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and
combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
“I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all
drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t
miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes,
I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing.
If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in
urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the
kidney without being detected. If a lot boxers were caught taking up drugs using only urine test for the past decades of boxing, why, a guy named Floyd Mayweather demands test other than what is used before? Is Floyd up to something? Is he planning behind our knowledge, like to sabotage Pacquiao’s training. I agree with blood test and I think Pacquiao too, but let the Nevada state find a blood testing body to conduct the blood test and not came from either Pacquiao or Mayweather’s camp. The funny thing is, due to alot of demands each day, Is Floyd the one who doesn’t want the fight to pursue? And who is Floyd Mayweather to create the rules?
Lex…are you sure about that? You are telling me that BALCO got busted because of Barry Bonds, or Barry Bonds was the one that got busted because of BALCO? If I am correct, there was an investigation on BALCO. After that investigation is what led to the names of athletes.
And are you asking me if Freddie Roach, Arum and Top Rank are responsible for the plaster in Margarito’s gloves? Because if you are, the answer would be NO. Top Rank may have been Margarito’s promoter, but Roach was not the trainer.
So you are telling me that anytime an athlete does something really good, it must mean that he/she is a cheat? Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, The Red Sox or The Colts. They are just too good so they have to be cheating. I think there should be an investigation on them.
Houston, the only reason Bonds trainer was ever implicated and why the whole BALCO investigation began was because people were saying Barry got too big and too good too fast. Which is exactly what people, other top boxers not just Mayweather, are saying about Manny. Lets see a big investigation opened on Roach, Arum, and Top Rank and see what it turns up. Aren’t these the people responsible for wrapping Margarito’s hands with PLASTER?!? So, the people handling Manny have already been caught cheating! I bet an investigation into Top Rank would take the whole company down, but yea I would just sue and not take tests to prove my innonence too. Why change the rules? Next thing you know GBP will want a $10 million per pound penalty. Oh, oops, thats the rule change Manny demanded and Mayweather agreed to without a fight. Manny is crying about wanting to change the rules, while he just did exactly that!
@ lex_fugitive, Bonds is different. Bonds was associated with his personal trainer was indicted for supplying ROids to athletes. That’s where the connection is.
Pacquiao’s guilt is simply that he is too good. There are no witnesses that he has taken anything. No association. Even if he did have some hgh or roids, noone is coming out saying they supplied him, Roach or Ariza.
The only reason the Sr. thinks he is doping is…noone can be that good. Kind of surprising though — since Sr. said Manny can’t fight and that his son would beat him, yet he thinks Manny has an unfair advantage.
They should do 3 random drug tests by way of blood testing. One in January (random — no specific time). One in February (random — no specific time) and one in March, as long as it’s before March 6(one week before fight)then one right after the fight on March 13. That way, it is all random, except the one right after the fight, but one that isn’t too close before the fight. One week is reasonable right?
Roach has said he would even do one as close as 5 days, but not the possibility of 48 hours.
At least, this way, it is all random. Isn’t that what the USADA is about? Randomness? But not too clse to the fight where it weakens Manny. Isn’t that Team Pacquiao wants?
keep cool pac….. malaysian and Asian fans is with you
and will stand by you.
The biggest superstition today is the thing called Home Field Advantage. When two teams play against each other, is there really a home field advantage? Does playing in your home field make the home team stronger? The home team will have an advantage because in their mind, they do. That goes with the visiting team also. Do they have a disadvantage because they are not playing at home?
This is Freddie Roach’s main point, that if Manny thinks taking blood out makes him weaker, then it will make him weaker even if physicians say it won’t harm him physically.
Would it make a difference then if the fight would be held in the Philippines? Why not, because it won’t afffect the fighters physically.
if mayweather claims that pacman is using steroids, why don’t li’l floydie use it and fight pacman just to prove the effect of steroids?
i really don’t know this ped and have no idea about this. can you give us the names of those peds that cannot be detected in the urinalysis?
no pro boxer has taken this USADA kind of dope testing before, not one in the history of pro boxing.
if nobody bothers to take it, why would manny bother?!?
nobody can push him to take what he is not required to. it’s his prerogative. i’m glad he knows his right and stood his ground.
there is nothing he has done in the past that should put him under any suspicion of taking dope. his accusers should prove him guilty instead of him proving himself innocent.
he is suing the mayweathers and putting the burden of proof on their side. now he can sip his tequila while the maywethers are busy looking for evidence.
If mayweather’s camp wants a USADA drug test to assure field level play against Pacman, they must as well insist to trace pacman’s birth origin; who knows he might have a bloodline of SUPERMAN and is born from planet KRYPTON. Alternatively, they can demand for a thorough x-ray of Pacman’s body to make sure his skeletal system is not made of ADAMANTIUM like Wolverine’s is made of! What else???! Ah, maybe, at least they need to check if Pacquiao’s head is not made of metal like the T-800 (from Terminator: Salvation). This battle may be over before it is fought, and the winner is: mAYWEATHER for his tons of talks and demands!!!
Max looks suspicious!!
FLOYD M. Ask the NSAC to add your demand before you ask someone to comply. COWARD
A lot of good comments/input here.. i just want the fight to happen..
Pacman is not on any PEDs, he’s never failed a test yet.
Mayweather is scared, he saw how Pacman handled all his opponents. If Mayweather wants to be acknowledge as the best fighter, he needs to fight Pacquiao and win.
Mayweather Jr should just accept what Arum propose for blood testing, be the Man in this situation, respect his opponent’s belief (as PacMan is from a 3rd world nation, not America), and quit pushing for USADA testing as this is not the Olympics. Any illegal substance will be detected in any other test as well.
Come on Pacquaio camp even agreed on blood testing in Jan, 30 days before fight, and soon after the fight. Roach even added more testing up to as close as 5 days before the fight. Mayweather the ball is in your court.
This will be ashame if the fight collapsed because Mayweather camp won’t accept anything else beside USADA testing. Boxing fans in number will immediate decrease if this fight does not happen. I know I will lose interest. The sport of boxing will go downhill for sure.
My question is can we do this kind of stuff in every fight? As a boxing fan, i now in doubt to all the winner of all classical boxing match, whether they do all this drug testing buff, just to clear every details that will lead to suspicion.
Does Mayweather vs DLH fight do this drug testing procedure, im curious?
Does Muhammad Ali have drug testing when he was on his prime, now im thinking
How sad!
When Hagler and Thomas Hearns fight, is there enhancement juice taken before they fight and is it been tested?
I feel bad on boxing nowadays.
something is clearly wrong with this article and some idiots are just so idiots they liked it completely.this issue is way beyond superstitions,way beyond manny’s elaborated reasons not to take the test that Mayweather camp is trying to impose on him. let’s just cut this short because in a real sense this article is as boring as Mayweather’s lame excuses. Steve, MANNY IS THE CHAMPION.THE DOPE SUSPICION WAS RAISED BY THE INSANE MAYWEATHER SR. AND NOW BEING PUSHED BY HIS SON AND THEIR LAWYERS.MANNY HAS COMPLIED WITH ALL THE RULES IN PRO BOXING THAT’S WHY HE IS THE CHAMPION.AN OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPION OF THE SPORT…CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW PAINFUL IT IS FOR MANNY TO JUST GIVE IN TO THE DEMANDS OF A BORING CHALLENGER?DEMANDS THAT ARE NOT EVEN VALID.NOT EVEN MANDATED BY THE INSTITUTION OF PRO BOXING.PLEASE STOP PUSHING THE ISSUE THAT MANNY IS JUST BEING SUPERSTITIOUS.MANNY INDEED IS A CHAMPION FROM A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.BUT HE IS STILL THE CHAMPION.AND HE’S SIMPLY MAKING IT CLEAR THAT HE CANNOT BE BULLIED BY ANY LOUD MOUTH-BORING-PRETTY GIRL BOXER FROM A DEVELOPED NATION. BE CLEVER STEVE. PERSONALLY, I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU BEING SUPERSTITIOUS OR NOT OR HOW YOUR FOOTBALL TEAM IS DOING AT THE MOMENT. YOU’RE NOT THE ONE WHO WILL BE WORKING IT OUT ON THE RING THROWING AND TAKING PUNCHES FOR 12 ROUNDS.GET IT?
VERY INTERESTING HOW MANNY WON’T DO THE OLYMPIC STYLE DRUG TESTING. WHAT’S THERE TO HIDE?
MAYWEATHERS HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME. THEY CAN’T CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF THE FIGHT, BUT THEY ARE SMART AS HELL. I SMELL A RAT!! AND IT’S A PAC RAT!!!
IF HE DOES AGREE TO THE DRUG TESTING, THEY SHOULD ALSO BE SURE TO DO A GOOD JOB CHECKING HIS HAND WRAPS BEFORE THE FIGHT. THIS GUY JUST MIGHT BE CHEATING.
Google “Pacquiao vs Mayweather” and this article turns up as the number 1 result! Glad I stumbled upon it. Excellent job Steve. As a boxing fan, I want this fight to go on. No need for silly tests other than the tests that are used already. These are grown men, but this whole issue is so childish.
Floyd Mayweather once again proves his unbeatable defensive skills. He has found a foolproof way to avoid getting hurt without even having to step in the ring.
Remember when Mayweather said that Manny has been knocked down before so he would have no problem in doing the same thing, and that Manny simply can not beat Mayweather? Now it seems he`s saying that Pacquiao has transformed from being not good enough to being too good. What a joke!
Southpaw Jab Judah clearly won the early rounds when he faught Mayweather. It was only when he ran out of steam and went on the defensive that Mayweather started to score. Manny would be able to fight in a simular manner without getting tired or getting scared. I honestly believe that Mayweather would not stand a chance against Pacquiao and he knows it. This is why he is using a dirty ploy to get out of the fight while destroying Pacquiao`s reputation. That`s what I call a really low blow.
Pretty Boy Floyd Cherry Picking Chicken Money Mayweather Jr. shame on you!
i might be wrong but from what i read minutes ago before writing this… HGH can be detected from urinalysis. they have “special test” for this, using your urine besides do you honestly think that pacquiao will take this substance risking all what he believe or stand for.He’s country will disown him if this was proven to be true.Which everybody knows has not been proven up to now …lets ask dela hoya,cotto, hattton, diaz, marquez if they think pac is on hgh. mayweather just man-up and fight stop listening to your father…maybe he should be the one getting tested for drugs.
Floyd is a douche but he will probably never lose a fair fight. If Manny is not willing to give blood at the same time as Mayweather then Manny is the one with something to hide. Why does everyone keep saying hgh and anabolic steroids? This isn’t football, this isn’t baseball, this isn’t power lifting. Those drugs would NOT be beneficial for a boxer going 12 rounds. If you have ever seen the Tour de France you will know that every year riders get busted for blood doping and taking drugs such as epo which help maintain power and extend endurance.
what kind of enhancement drug that can’t be detected before and with in 30 days.. if you can’t tell one…then.. f@ck your mouth!
This Mayweather ploy will back fire! Pacman will agree to the test eventually, and as the fight gets nearer, random tests will give negativve results. Money will shiver each time a negative finding comes out. In the end, near fight night Money will be hiding behind Floyd Sr’s ass like a dog with his tail hidden under its hind legs. This is a war of nerves. This is the scenario the Mayweather camp will have to consider should their accusation are proven false.
Pacman has fought this long against current Champions of seven divisions. If he has cheated or fraud, im pretty sure those boxers including de la Hoya would have filed for a petition or complaint against Pacquiao’s team. De la Hoya knows Pacquiao is legit… why is he suggesting that he is not. He would have investigated Pacquiao before their fight and after but he did not do any such thing. So therefore, if you have not filed any complaint against him for so long why would you say he has been cheating…? Do you follow my point… huh? It is not so hard to understand.
This article is so refreshing and cerebral. Not like the ones Liam Santiago and Perez write, so dumb and ignorant..
Where’s Mayweather.. Is you Hiding in Retirement again.
Where is you… counting your money
where is you… telling lies to yourself..
Where is you crying in your closet..
Count your money good because it’s last paycheck..
Go fight a retired old boxer again. Mayweather the super Zero. oOH… oOH…oOH
To: Big “G” That’s right baby tell it like it is!!!
Where I’m from if someone gets in your face, you handle business. L.A. is in the house… Viva Mosely.. & Viva Manny(Crazy Bato) Mayweather, Don’t break your nails homegirl….
This is nothing new, Mayweather always starts the the fight before the fight. It’ a mental game. And.. what’s up Mayweather? Are you going to go after Mosely when you want to…Well, Us fans like the true Champ “Sugar Shane Mosely.” The one that doesn’t hide.. The one who will be in your face.. The one you can’t touch!!! Are you scared that Mosely Will Crunch Up your Numbers.
is floyd a voodoo priest? if floyd wants blood then he should get it from a headless chicken. NSAC rules vegas and boxing, USADA ? this is proboxing. just pee and figth floyd! pee and fight!
1. MAYWEATHER IS ADMITTING PACQUIAO IS BETTER. How do we know this? If he didn’t think Pacquiao is a better fighter, then he wouldn’t have asked for additinal blood testing.
2. BOTH SIDES ARE HARD-HEADED. Arum needs to try to fix this. He shouldn’t be looking at any other fighter. Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because Golden Boy Promotions are a bunch of punks, Arum doesn’t need to be one himself. Golden Boy sending a Press Release on trying to discredit Manny? What a low blow. Did Top Rank sned out a press release on how Golden Boy backed out of the trip to Dallas? WHy can’t you keep all negotiations behind closed doors.
3. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR ATHLETES TO GET BETTER WITH INCREASE IN SIZE. Want proof? How many basketball players coming ouot of high school (18 years old) become quicker and stronger as they get older? Take a look at Kevin Garnett. When he entered the draft, he was 6’11 weighing about 215 lbs. What does he weigh now? 250 lbs?
Would NFL teams want a player out of high school? Of course not. After college, that player is sure to be a lot quicker and bigger. Do we watch NFL games and accuse those guys they must be on something because they are a lot quicker and stronger than when they just graduated high school?
4. MENTAL VS. PHYSICAL. Would it affect Mayweather if he were to fight in the Philippines? I bet you doctors would say no. Maybe right after flying, he would be affected. But a month in the Philippines, he would be in normal shape. So if Manny thinks he himself gets weaker after getting blood taken out, even if doctors say it would not affect him physically, he would get weaker. So why doesn’t Manny accept the propsed drug testing by the Mayweathers, but let the fight be in the Philippines.
5. IS TYGART A DOCTOR? Is Tygart, the CEO of USADA, an actual doctor or the CEO? If he is not, then let actual doctors talk about taking blood out of athletes and the affects it has. And give both sides – Mayweather and Pacquiao – the handbook/manual on actual procedures of Olympic athletes getting their blood drawn. Was there ever blood taken out of Michael Phelps a day before he swam?
manny said he lost the first fight to eric Morales because he had to give blood that same week,so his mind is set ,he believe it weaken him,ok the contract hasnt been made yet and ,floyd want to put this in,but its a advantage to him as,if he can slow manny work rate down he win, as manny throws about 700 to 800 punches in a full fight,if he can make manny throw 600 punches floyd win.
Are you an idiot or something? Blood tests takes VIALS of blood. Now, i don’t know where you live where they take spoons of blood, but obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about.
The CHEAT has been EXPOSED…Only dopers can leave $ 40 million for less than a spoon of blood
Pacquiao vs Mayweather will only happen if Paqcuiao will fight Mayweather with one arm (right hand of course)
hahaha… I bet that Mayweather had this demand in his mind right now.
Mayweather is already defeated — too much trash talk
D.I.S.A.S.T.E.R
This is a good article. Mayweather has asked several demands from PACMAN camp already, and they accomodated all of them except this last one. I believe PACMAN’s camp will accept this one too even though against his belief because PACMAN’s camp know that Mayweather is scared of PACMAN and he can demolish him.
The issue here is Mayweather will ask more demands so he can avoid fighting PACMAN. To stop this, the boxing commission should make a rule that every demand not listed on the boxing rules will pay big bucks.
Mayweather is having delemma. If he fight PACMAN,he and his camps know that they may lost and if avoid the fight he’s going to lost his face and credibily. Mayweather should just focus on his training instead of excuses. In the end,Meyweather does not have an easy way out.
USADA is affiliated with the GoldenBoy Promotions! SUSPECIOUS! Manny does not need this kind of treatment from the Mayweather. Manny, go fight someone else. Forget Floyd.
This article hit the nail on the head and Mayweather , as well as boxing fans, should realize that there is a fine line between gamesmanship and just plane unsportsmanlike behavior. It is obvious that Mayweather senior crossed this line in his baseless, liable accusations, and junior followed right behind him. This behavior is typical of a jealous spoiled brat that concocts some random story of cheating so as to draw attention away from the star pupil in the class. As fans of the sport we need to recognize this type of behavior and call the athletes on it since we are the ones that pay to see them compete and this type of behavior only gets on the fans nerves and brings the wrong kind of attention to boxing. If Mayeather wants to get into Pacquiao’s head he should have the nerve to truly play the part of the heel and go right after Pacquiao and say something more along the lines that an Ali or maybe even a Clubber Lang would say. That would be far better than making boxing look bad by saying that one of the more liked and successful boxers of all time is a cheater without any evidence at all. As for Pacquiao , I hope, as a fan of the sport, he is able to reach some kind of a compromise with the Mayeather people. Should the fight come off and Pacquiao beat Mayweather, I also hope that he possess a little bit of vindictive blood in him – no pun intended – and doesn’t let Mayweather live down the loss for a little while. May the classy, talented, and hard working youngster in the class take the spoiled brat out to the schoolyard and win one for the good people. Good luck Mr. Manny Pac-Man Pacquiao!
Actually, here is a proposal that Arum needs to think about. Physicians say that it would not affect an athlete physically if blood was taken out. Roach said that it does mentally.
How about this.
Manny agrees to the terms of Mayweather, but the fight will not be held in Las Vegas, but in the Philippines.
Mayweather = biggest chicken alive
He is just finding ways to avoid this fight. He knows what pacman is capable of. Mayweather is afraid of him, why cant he face pacman like a man and skip all the nonsense and just fight. Besides, they can still can the test after the fight. Pacquiao would have to take the steroids very close to the fight for it to kick in, and also steroids cannot be fully out of the system for 30 days
we cannot blame Mayweather. He is just human. A human that has FEAR. Sometime if you afraid something you must make an alibi, or do something as if you’re not scared. But in Heart you are… Human nature drives Mayweather such unnecessary demand.They should amend the rule first so that no one is exempt. Not by publicity that no legal basis/ foundation.Please don’t damage the sport on unfounded accusation. Olympic type of drug testing is applicable only with legal foundation and in all atlete without exemption.
Everthing within our sorrouning could affect us our emotion especially.Supertition is one of them. Just like positive attract the positive.
GlennToT_NYC i applaud you, best comment in this article.
@Dog-eater
Nice double post douchebag. You wait an hour to post the same crap again???? Bet you didn’t even read this, just copying and pasting on every damn article. It’s not about clean fighters coming out and testing clean. It’s mind games outside the ring. Sure I can jump through hoops, doesn’t mean I have to because you demand that I do.
I agree with a lot of the comments here. This is by far one of the best articles written about all this stuff that’s going on. I am a Pacquiao fan and Steve Lewis has covered all the angles on this article.
Noone has said anything about the superstitious part of it, but in the end, it would be good to just go ahead with Mayweather’s demands.
It’s like flu shots also. Why are some arms sore after a shot and some aren’t? Different affects on people.
Excellent Article!!!!!!! Was waiting for this. Thanks Steve, it was a good read. *****
That’s correct! Manny willing to submit a blood, urine or any kind of examinations about that steroids. He wants only in a proper way of examination to get the blood! Mayweather wants only many excuses from the start. He asked Manny call to fight him and etc. Manny gives to Mayweather everything even he don’t have in position to ask about that.He is not a champion!! In short, he’s making EXCUSES!!! If you want to fight to Manny, FIGHT!! That’s enough for NEVADA”S Sports Commission requirements for examination for steroids. Give that work to NEVADA”S COMMISSION you are not a member of NEVADA”S COMMISSION FLOYD!! They are already expert about that in many,many years in boxing even you ,you pass that kind of examinations of NEVADA from your past fights until you become as Mayweather, Why you are asking a new requirement for examination Floyd? You are a COWARD your always making excuses by the way, its OBVIOUS Floyd!! Show to us that you are the BEST, FLOYD according to you.NOT CAME FROM US WAIT TO US TO SAY THAT YOU ARE THE BEST BOXER! Manny never say anything that he is the GREATEST, BEST and etc. People only recognize what he did in boxing.
I AGREE WITH U THIS IS STUPID MAYWEATHER IS A COWARD AND PAC SHOULD NOT TAKE THIS TEST IT IS NOT MANDATORY!
It’s silly in that the whole premise for Mayweather Sr.’s suspicions in the first place are off-base.
Manny hasn’t put on incredible amounts of muscle over a short period of time. He’s just not cutting as much weight as he used to when he was still competing in the 130-lb division. Look at his weight on the day of the actual fight, and you will see that his weight has been pretty much level. Nothing out of the ordinary to conclude he’s on something.
Now it’s prove you are innocent (as opposed to innocent until proven guilty).
Manny has already agreed to a blood test right after the fight is over. Why is that not sufficient enough for Mayweather? It seems that Manny doesn’t want to use WADA Testing because he doesn’t want to be subject to their random testing close to the fight. People are taking this a step further saying since WADA tests for HGH Manny is resisting the tests. Why don’t they just take the blood sample from the post fight and submit it to WADA? Then they can write into the contract that if Manny tests positive he will forfeit his purse. If Mayweather can’t agree to that, then he really is blowing up this whole issue to harass Manny.
Mayweather is mainly trying to intimidate Pacquiao. He’s trying to get attention also.
don’tbehatinonpacman>it’s time for sugar shane mosely and pac to fight!! no more nonsense!! what do you think?
Manny has already agreed to a blood test right after the fight is over. Why is that not sufficient enough for Mayweather? It seems that Manny doesn’t want to use WADA Testing because he doesn’t want to be subject to their random testing close to the fight. People are taking this a step further saying since WADA tests for HGH Manny is resisting the tests. Why don’t they just take the blood sample from the post fight and submit it to WADA. Then they can write into the contract that if Manny tests positive he will forfeit his purse. If Mayweather can’t agree to that, then he really is blowing up this whole issue to harass Manny.
I’m not knowledgeable on the topic of drug test. Can someone enlighten me why it is not sufficient for Manny to give blood samples immediately after the fight? Add to that that Arum suggested that MP pay a penalty of $10M if found positive.
Filipino Dog Eater ::: you’re an IGNORAMUS and an IDIOT. Pacman agreed to 30 days before and right after the fight blood testing.
How can he possibly hide something.
Mayweather does not have the class to do the right thing. Arum and Mayweather know each other well and they both have strong personalities. This fight is over. Mayweather will not give in and so is Arum. Pacquiao can give up the money because life in politics is waiting for him whether he wins or not. Mayweather can also give up the money because he knows he does not have any choice but to stand firm. If he blinks, he is damaged and will not generate money hereafter. End of story.
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LOL Lil FLOYD is too CHICKEN $HIT to fight MANNY… Ofcourse he’ll find a way out! everytime manny calls his bluff… he will find another reason not to fight him. He knows it , we know it, & everybody knows that FLOYD is scared $hitless for PACQUIAO.
1. FLOYD asked PACQUIAO to call him out – So PACQUIAO Said “YES I WANT TO FIGHT HIM”.
2. FLOYD asked for more money even though his not in a position to demand – PACQUIAO said yes to 50/50 (Even though he is the title holder and has the bigger PPV result than lil Floyd).
3. FLOYD asked for OLYMPIC DRUG TEST – PACQUIAO said YES in the knowledge that he will give urine sample and blood in the end of the fight.
4. FLOYD asked for BLOOD TEST 24-48 hours before the fight – PACQUIAO said yes i’ll give 3 blood sample (January around the press conference date, Any day before Feb 13. 2010, imediately after the fight and unlimited URINE SAMPLE KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!)
So which BLOOD SAMPLE is more accurate 24-48 before the fight or imidiately after the fight??? Why too much Drama FLOYD? Just tell them you dont want to fight MANNY and that’s it… They will fight the next person. They dont need you FLOYD… Manny already made his mark in Boxing history and so are you… As the BEST CHERRY PICKER & ALL TIME DUCKER in BOXING HISTORY.
mayweather is a disgrace to boxing. the guy is a coward. this is his way of getting out of the fight. he knew he’ll lose. He asked all americans to stand by him and support him (and i would) . But as an american, i feel disappointed. i guess blacks doesn’t have what it takes to carry the flag of our proud country after all. What a shame. manny on the other hand, represent what boxing is today. manny doesn’t need pretty boy.
also pacman should file million dollow libel/slander lawsuit against mayweather sr after all this has passed for besmirching his reputation. It’s illegal to accuse anybody like that without any evidence. althogh i can’t believe lawyers of pacman are sitting this down.
Alot of people are saying that manny is afraid of a needle yet he has tatto’s on his body let me tell you something the difference having a tatto and getting your blood taken one tattoing is not getting your blood taken which somepart of your skin would feel like its getting sliced or cut depends on your art or liking of your tatto big, small etc…(like me i have tatto on both arms):P 2nd is when your getting your blood out of your arm your ass,your neck and so on i have this experience when i went to the doctor and ask for a blood test on HIV man they took a lot of blood out of me and i feel weakend i have to play basketball on my league but i skip the game. i took me a week to recover and i know and some of you people know that getting your blood it weakens you physically by the thanx for your article very outspoken and very rich article
A boxer dictating the rules of the fight. A first time. What is next, choosing the referee, the judges? Is Mayweather the new Boxing Commissioner? Last time I checked, every fight is govern by the rules of the venue’s sporting authority, and that’s the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
manny has passed every required doping test out there. if they want to apply a new stringent test, make it official and make every pro boxer out there comply to it.
people don’t understand that pushing somebody to do something that he is not required to do and is out of suspicion, is downright INSULTING.
IF THEY WANT AN OLYMPIC STYLE DOPING TEST, MAKE IT OFFICIAL AND MAKE EVERYBODY COMPLY TO IT!…
NOT ONLY IN TIME THAT THEY ARE FIGHTING MANNY!!!!
mayweather is a disgrace to boxing. the guy is a coward. this is his way of getting out of the fight. he knew he’ll lose. as an american, i feel disappointed. i guess blacks doesn’t have what it takes to carry the flag of our proud country. manny on the other hand, represent what boxing is today. manny doesn’t need pretty boy.
forget this nonsense! i want to see a true sluggfest between sugar shane mosely and pacman!! would you like to see that fight steve lewis?
Now someone finally articulated what everyone probably want to say. This is very sensible, no doubt about it. Thanks Steve!
WOW. love this article too. i hope more boxing gets to read this. i’ve been reading a lot ot articles today and most of them are more to the tone of “if you have nothing to hide, take the test”. Nobody is framing it on the mental aspect for pacman which is more devastating than the physical side if he will undergo this bloodtest. That tone is incorrect too.. coz pacman is willing to take the necessary test but it’s just matter of when and who. This is just a mind game to distract pacman. BUt i’m sure in the end, mayweathers camp will give in coz they will lose more than pacman.
Let’s not forget that Manny grew up dirt poor and probably didn’t grow up with the same level of medical attention and testing we find commonplace in America. Hell, his conditioning coach said he had a hard time getting him to take advil.
Also just the fact that he has to submit to more intrusive tests when he’s never failed a urine test.
Fact is Mayweather is looking for excuses and backdoors. No one ever said “hey Floyd is undefeated he must be on something” out of sheer respect for a great fighter. The fact that he can’t return that kind of respect for another fighter especially one that can legitimately kill him in the ring. It’s passive aggressive ducking at it’s finest, something Mayweather has finely crafted in and out of the ring. And it’s one of the reasons people think he’s boring.
He should just shut up and go by the sanctioning body’s testing rules, the same ones that have shown Pacman as clean for all his past fights. If that’s not good enough for Mayweather maybe he should go back to handpicking lesser fighters.
This is nice article. I hope everybody open their mind.
If Pac agrees to the drug tests, would Mayweather finally sign the fight? I don’t think so… PBF will come up with another excuse again.
Don’tBeHatinPacman – You have written near enough the same comment on the last couple of articles. You write, ‘To all PACMAN haters’, im assuming your a “Mayweather hater”?
There are people out there who are fans of boxing in general, and fans of both Mayweather and Pacquiao. Does this mean if they write something negative about your “favourite” boxer, they are a “hater”?
Seems kinda childish to me.
The people who come out with “hater” frequently are usually the boxing fans who can’t hold a debate without resorting to throwing abuse at the other person/people.
This bout is going to happen, the events over the past couple of days is just building up anticipation for the bout. It was being touted as possibly being the biggest grossing bout in boxing history even before both camps started talking, they are just making sure it lives up to the hype and then some.
Mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs. So how is Manny’s weight climb so difficult to grasp???? In a word… EXCUSES.
When did the boxing rules change? They are boxing, right? Last time I checked they weren’t fighting for a gold medal. So what is this BS all about??? I know what it is… His first L… Make no mistake, if Mayweather was as confident as he talks he would put his money where his mouth is and just box. But he’s not, so what does that really tell you? It tells you what everyone including him and his entourage know. He will get his butt whipped. Honestly, anyone would do the same thing when they are scared. So, you can’t really blame “pretty boy”.
Love your article Steve ..
To all PACMAN haters … IDIOTAS … Pacman agreed to blood testing 30 days before and right after the fight. If anyone of you have some medical knowledge, they will be able to find what they want to find. IDIOTAS !!! Cowardice on the part of Mayweather Camp. Simply dodging the killer punch of PACMAN.