Mayweather versus Pacquiao: If the Fight does not Happen, Floyd will have Blood on His Hands

The thing I don’t understand is that most Pacquiao supporters seem to be acting like the fact Manny wants a 30 day window with NO RANDOM BLOOD TESTS does not deserve a raise of the eyebrows. I guess it’s easier to say that Mayweather is asking for too much than to answer that question. With all the shortcuts athletes these days use, that kind of behaviour from Manny is alarming. Mayweather never said he wanted blood taken the day of the fight. Not to my knowledge anyway. The random blood tests could happen anytime, “even the day of the fight”, but that doesn’t mean it will. If Pacquiao is really clean, he could agree to it and put a 2 week cut off date. That would be more respectable and he wouldn’t need to be “superstitious”. But he won’t. And his fans don’t even have a lucid response for it. Mayweather is scared and ducking? Uh, I think not. It is obvious Mayweather is not scared. But is it so obvious that Manny is clean? Before you answer that, ponder this: You are NOT there when he trains. You are not privy to any knowledge of what he may or may not do. We can only go by what we see and hear. And what I am hearing is a man who is trying to avoid random blood tests for a 30 day period. Do you know what you could get away with during that time? So, until Pacquiao accepts THAT challenge, I will have that question in my mind. I have no such question about Mayweather. He is willing to do it.

mayweather’s duckin…first he was duckin the venue now this. he was bluffin and pacquiao called it. mayweather folds.

there’s a pac video in 2005 doing an interview after the morales fight…he said they took blood from him 2 days before the fight and he started getting aches in his body. let it happen once, shame on them, let it happen twice shame on pacquiao. NEVER AGAIN!

fight night comes and he has nothing to his punches, he knew it and morales knew it too. Morales even said there was nothing in pacquiao’s punches.

if you truly believe that pacquiao needs to be tested or he owes it to the public, then you know nothing about boxing, you are a hack and boxing will do fine without you. now gtfo.

6 words. = You are so DAMN COWARD Mayweather_Jr.

Maintain your title “SELF-PROCLAIMED, UNBEATABLE, PUN-4-PUN Fighter of all time. congrats

carltonec – what’s EPO? thanks

floyd wanted 2 blood test earlier. 30 days before the fight and one immediately after the fight thinking that manny would not agree. after manny AGREED to that, he wanted more test done including right before the fight on the day of the fight. he’s just making it hard for manny to say yes so that he won’t half to fight manny. who in their right mind would give blood right before the fight on the day of the fight? if he does want to fight manny, he wants all of the advantages.

Floyd DOES want to fight him. He just wants to make sure it is going to be a clean opponent he is facing. It’s the biggest fight of their careers. This is a very understandable request. If Pacquiao is truly clean, he will take the random tests and fight Floyd. It is MANNY that seems to be walking away. He absolutely will not submit to random tests. It seems he and his camp want to make sure they know EXACTLY when those tests are happening. Lots of time to plan that way. Floyd’s way of doing things all but eliminates the chance of PEO’s being used during training. Manny seems to be against this. Why? This is testing that is used for the olmypics. Floyd is not afraid of this kind of testing. Why is Manny hiding from it? There have been 2 different reasons given by the Pacquiao camp so far. The first one was shown to be ridiculous. So, a second reason was invented. I mean I know Phillipinos are SOOOOOOOOO proud of the guy, but that does not mean he can’t possibly be dirty. If he is clean, he will submit to this and fight Floyd. If not, don’t blame Floyd for Manny’s yellow streak when it comes to random testing.

Pacquiao’s Official statement says that he is willing to take a blood test 30 days BEFORE the fight, and one right after. Nothing in between, or during that 30 day span. All the debating in the world cannot change the fact that Manny himself said that. This is what is causing the suspicion. There are methods of blood doping that can be used during that time for training purposes, and even for the fight itself. Some stuff burns off in hours, but gives you a fight boost (ever seen Manny tire during a fight?). Random testing at least prevents it from happening during training. The article states that Roach agreed to random testing up until 5 days before the fight. That is bunk. The whole dispute is because Manny DOES NOT want that to happen! First they say he is afraid of needles. When Floyd points out his many tattoos, the story changes. Now, Manny is superstitious, and thinks blood being drawn from him during that 30 days will “mentally weaken” him. With all this said, people STILL think it is Floyd that is scared?! How about that he just wants a fair fight? Maybe Manny is scared to fight the biggest fight of his career without some sort of little helper during training? Keep in mind I am no Floyd fan (or Manny for that matter), but I think Manny is full of crap on this. Walk away from a $40 million fight because he is superstitious? Please. Without PEO’s, he may actually tire and slow during this fight. He knows that. If he loses or is found to be dirty, he may not win his seat in Congress in the Phillipines.

yep robert smith you are absolutely right. What would a professional athlete, better yet the best athlete in his respective sport was publicly accused of using steroids what would he do? If only we had some way of knowing, if only say Barry Bonds who was destroying every record in baseball had been accused. He surely would have sued everyone that said he was using PEDs. Wake up people, urine tests don’t show HGH and othe PEDs. You could sue and get laughed out of the courtroom or you could take the tests. I know I would believe someone that said he didn’t use any PEDs and refused to take the test , while I don’t know if I would believe someone that took the test.

Yep, the purse split that Pacquiao wanted, the weight limit that Pacquiao wanted, the gloves that Pacquiao wanted, an amazing $10 million penalty for every pound over the weight limit that Pacquaio wanted, yep sounds to me like Floyd is running scared. I’m not sure what Roach said but Manny said in his press release that he won’t take a blood test within 30 days of the fight and if thats the demand then he will fight Pauli for a tenth of the money and just sue Mayweather. Mosley called out Pacquaio long before he started wanting a fight with Mayweather. Also, everybody seems to forget when in his prime Mosley ducked Mayweather, refused to fight him. Now, he has no draw value and Mayweather would get no credit for beating a shell of the former Mosley. Why did Pacquiao turn Mosley down? Everybody that saw the two fights against JMM wanted a rubber match, but Pacquiao ignored him and the fact that most people thought JMM won both fights. Now, Pacquiao got the purse split he wanted, the weight he wanted, the gloves he wanted, and an unprecented penalty for being over the weight limit and all he has to do is agree to random blood tests for a $30-$40 million dollar fight. Who’s the one scared??? Pacman ran from JMM, Mosley, and now PBF, while fighting fighters that come in head on with no boxing skill and no defensive ability at all. Now, he’s talking about this Pauli and Bradley and trying to ignore Mayweather, Mosley, JMM, and any other decent “boxer” not slugger there is. I’m sorry but Morales outboxed Manny, so did JMM, and hes beaten a few sluggers since then. When he has really won a fight against a decent boxer? Why does he always fight excuses to not fight a defensive fighter? Who’s running scared??? Again purse split, weight, gloves, penalty, all exactly what Pacman wanted. And somehow its Floyd thats scared??

it leaves me with no doubt that both parties,do not care about the fans one iota.remember we are the ones who pay. without the fans the is no reason to not believe boxing has now become a freak sideshow to ufc/mma. pacman,yeah your good,but you need to beat floyd to show you are true p4p king,& floyd you need to whip pacman to really prove to everyone you are the best.otherwise there will always be lingering doubts as to who is the best p4p. im sorry but there is just not anyone really worth either of you to fight. pacman… even i could beat malignaggi and i havent boxed for 20 years. so fighting someone like that who has already accused you of taking something,not to mention him being pummelled by your previous foes, means you are now going down in in everyones book. how far are you going to carry poor paul, cos you need to ko him in a minute or so of the 1st round if your going to gain anything,which would only be a ‘whoopi’! i wont pay to see it though. i once thought pacman was the ultimate,a freak of nature,now im not so sure because his entire camp is just freaking out like everyone does who has been accused of using something when they actually are doing or have done so before. what have you got to to hide boys?.both parties are only going to make boxing suffer for this & make themselves out to be all a bunch of primadonnas.shame on the lot of you.i dont remember this much crap in the days of leonard,hearns,hagler,duran,benitez,etc..there was some, but not this much.lucky none of these guys are around today cos all of them wouldve beaten both floyd & pacman easily. take the tests, make the fight.the fight that all of us want to see mayweather v paquiao, after all we are the ones paying for it aren’t we?

Floyd jr knows from the get go that this fight was not gonna happen because hes got an ace tucked in his sleeve as his fallback position and do you know what it is? Its Sugar Shane Mosely! After Mosely disposes of Berto and its going to be a hard fight, Floyd jr will be ready to face him because Mosely would be shot by that time.

Congratulations!Well written,very objective and balance.

whats new besides fraud jr ducking quality boxers?

if mayweather claims that pacman is using steroids, why don’t li’l floydie use it and fight pacman just to prove the effect of steroids?

i really don’t know this ped and have no idea about this. can you give us the names of those peds that cannot be detected in the urinalysis?

This is a fair and unbiased article. It just so happens that there is overwhelming against Mayweather. Anyone can simply say something is bias without proof. Just because one takes a side does not signal bias, it merely forms an opinion based on facts. Mayweather historically dodges strong contenders and is doing it again with Pacquiao. The only reason that he’s undefeated is because he’s hasn’t fought any top fighters.
So boxing fans, let’s stay close to the facts and keep our emotions outside of our judgments.
Let’s hope Mayweather stops playing the ducking game and proves himself.
The argument that Pacquiao should have nothing to hide is clearly unfounded. It doesn’t matter, he may have a bad reaction and if he is using any substance, it will show up.
H, losing blood during the fight is irrelevant; it has nothing to do with the blood test.

fraud jr, i mean floyd jr can’t continue deceiving people and now he is being exposed. he thought he could played mind games and destroy pacman. he thought the media would continue buying his excuses and slanderous and defamation allegations but now the media is waking up. i hope nevada and all the promoters involved would join the lawyers of pacman to sue fraud jr and sr, i mean floyd jr and sr and GBP.

fraud jr, i mean floyd jr got his followers deceived, too. he is the bad boy of boxing.

if fraud jr, i mean floyd jr fights other than pacman, media is going to ridicule him and only his followers might watch his entertainment show.

floyd, you are the one that is stupid and moron. i don’t know if you can say what you said about mexicans and filipinos outside of your cave. you are not racist – you are just plain idiot. anyway, you admired fraud jr, i mean floyd jr – it shows you are like him. i hope boxing news would reveal your ID address in the public so you can start running now like your idol, fraud jr, i mean floyd jr. if you are brave enough – come out – you moronic person.

good article! c’mon mexicans and filipinos are slaves they should be exterminated like bugs! they are cheaters, I’m siding with Giancarlo Malinconico on this he’s also against Mexicans and Filipinos!

H… You’re wrong! The writers stated that Freddie Roach stated there is no problem with random testing. You’re uninformed. Roach has made it clear that Manny’s only objection is to testing near the date of the fight. You should probably do your research. And the weight demand of 10 million is completely appropriate as Mayweather as already disregarded contractual weight requirements while Manny has never failed a drug test. A lot of these Mayweather fanatics make strawmen arguments about taking blood tests while Manny has never refused. You should your research before making comments. Mayweather has not fought the elite at welterweight. He is overhyped becaue he’s undefeated but as the writer has pointed out he really lost the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo and (in my opinion) the second fight as well. Mayweather ought to have two losses. While Pacquiao should have gotten the win against Marquez in the first fight becasue a judge miscored the fight. And he won the second fight even scoring a knockdown. So comparisons to Mayweather/Castillo and Pacquiao/Marquez are not valid, for Manny scored knockdowns in his fights and landed the harder shots, and the opposite is true in the Mayweather/Castillo encounters.

This article shows absolute non-sensical bias towards Mayweather, and you are just Santiago/Perez on the other side. Boring.

Giancarlo, you clearly don’t get the situation or watch that much boxing. Pacquiao and his team have not agreed to any form of random drug testing. They want to be tested on specific days, i.e. before they begin training, and after the bout. And to be honest, I don’t get what Manny’s problem is. 1) it’s a blood test, not a transfusion so they take a minimal amount of blood, 2) selecting the days you want to be tested on defeats the purpose of a random drug test as if you are using banned substances, you have enough time to get them out of your system before you’re testing them, 3) Mayweather would have to take the same test as well, 4) if you have nothing to hide, what’s your problem? He would probably bleed more during training than during the actual test so any excuse of drawing blood would drain him is ridiculous. I don’t see how you can blame Mayweather saying he is trying to pull out of the bout. You talk about him making ridiculous demands, how about Manny demanding he be fined $10 million for every pound he is over the weight limit- that is a ridiculous demand. Bottom line is if Manny wants the fight so much then why not just agree to the tests, especially if he has nothing to hide. His team are throwing their toys out of the pram, saying these demands ridiculous and urine testing is fine. It is common knowledge that you can’t test for things like HGH in a urine test as they do not show up in urine- only in blood, and even it can leave the system within 48 hrs. The only fair way to test for these things is by using the random drug tests that the USADA use. Who cares if it’s the first time it has been asked for in boxing?You ask me it should have been introduced a long time ago. this is the 21st century so boxing should move with the times and show that it is a sport for pure athletes, instead these so called drug agencies that fail to pick up a multitude of drug cheats from sports like baseball. Giancarlo, I think you should do your research before you start typing an article, as you simple leave yourself open to scrutiny.

Too many of you lot like to criticise Mayweather cos you think he demands are too much. Why don’t you really look at why Pacquiao is refusing these tests, especially if he has nothing to hide? You should realise by now that this is chess, not checkers and from what I can tell, Manny and his team don’t know the difference. If you have nothing to hide, and you think Mayweather is bluffing, he should call it.

There must be a lot of retards in the world. Where is this crap of manny refusing to take the drug test coming from. He has agreed to take a blood test up to five days before the fight and after it. Why should he bow to mayweathers ridiculous demands. If it was not the blood testing issue then Mayweather would find another excuse not to fight. Mayweather snr is the one who started these claims but he also predicted that Hatton would beat manny. Floyd is just jealous of mannys success and wants to protect his unbeaten record thats why he has ducked so mant fights. Manny may have lost a few fights but he has fought everyone who is out there unlike mayweather. All the best fighters in history lost but thats beacause they fought the best, Mayweather has not and thats a fact. This whole blood testing issue has for me shown where mayweather next career move should be. He should head into politics or a spin doctor as he has created a situation where manny looks to be the reason for the fight not happening. Real boxing fans know that mayweather is a fraud and he can go into retirement, after he pays the IRS, with his unbeaten record intact just like joe calzaghe.

This fight has to happen, I understand that after the fight would be OK to catch manny on the roids but this gives him the psychological advantage…all through the fight it’s still unknown to May whether Manny’s on them or not, therefore the test must be done before the fight! Mayweather doesn’t need to look for excuses, if anyone would look for an excuse it’s Manny since Mayweather is undefeated….I didn’t think he was that kind of person but it’s clear to me that he is dodging. I’m not biased towards either fighter, I would actually love either of them to lose rather than to win and that’s why I’ll be watching but look at it this way; after giving blood it takes less than a day to recover that blood, and it’s not like much will be taken, nor does it have to come from the arm… why not train for the day, do the test, sleep it off, then train again tomorrow, simple! Everyone’s a winner.

Put a fork in Pacquiao, his reputation is absolutely done!

theres only one way manny can come clean out of this and thats to take the damn blood test,,,,if hes got nothing to hide then whats the problem,,,,,,,,his reputation is on the line now this has caused a s**tstorm and he needs to fix it,,,,,if he doesnt then everyone is gonna come to there own conclusion and thats that hes worried hel fail it,,,,,sorry manny ,,,but just take the test,,,,or tarnish your legacy,,,,whats more important?????

The Mayweathers’ succeeded here because Manny will ALWAYS be followed with the steroid allegations. Manny has NO lawsuit. They would have to sue, Carlos Palomino, Paul Malanaggi, Floyd Sr., Oscar DelaHoya, and many others. Give it up and just take the test Pacquiao!!!

I do think another independent agency will conduct the test and the fight will go forward…

Xtian, just another little pinoy chink that probably just finished bowl full of rice and Yorki terrier soup and felt a need 2 stand up 4 his brother!

Jason aka idiot… I said what I said because you were trying 2 make some idiotic assumption that Floyd is a cheater or and that he is some how manipulating this bout by asking that the same test that Michael Phelps, Serena Williams, Usane Bolt, and all of our present and a good amount of our past olympian greats have taken. So really Jason there’s no excuse u could make up for Pac not 2 take the test… and the fact that you actually used the word nincompoop shows that you really are an hick! 2yrs from now I’ll be graduating from the University of Florida and from there I’ll go work for my dad making 80k starting out you low life Moron!

There is no justification to the defirmation of character lawsuit by Bob Arum. So many individuals have made this assumption of Pacquiao that a judge would throw this out as fast as it hits the docket. The best thing that could come from this is, a court could insist Manny Pacquiao prove his innocense by taking the test.

Golden Boy Promotions is employing double-standards when they themselves refuse to have Shane Mosley be tested and yet insist on Pacquiao to be tested. I dont believe Pacquiao is guilty – he says hes willing to be blood tested but its just the timing. I honestly thinks the Mayweathers and Golden Promotions are trying to ” with Pacquiao because hes a Filipino and Filipinos or Asians in general typically are known not “to make waves or counter-punch” which is why the Mayweathers camp is making all of these demands (like jabs here and there ) If Mayweathers and Golden Boy Promo had known the drug testing inadequacy of the Nevada State Athletic Commission before how come they didnt make any fuss before ? Why now ???? Golden Boy and the Mayweathers are in it together to just and Bully Pacman now because they cant do that in the ring..thats my take

Bob the fan boy below is a mofo moron who doesnt have a clue. Hes got his head stuck so far up mayweathers ass. Get some fresh air dude. No athlete has the right to dictate who gets to tests the boxers involved. Floyd has historically duckd good fighters and thats a fact. Pacquiao has never tested positive for any PED in his long career. There is no merit to all the accusations. All this has started from an illiterate drug deali. old fool in floyd sr. And morons like you bob are followin him like the pied piper. Well what can you expect from morons but to follow fellow morons.

Since all this all trial by speculations, i would like to offer my own speculations..

1. USADA is an American Agency; Mayweather is American whose achievement is about to be taken by an Asian athlete.

2. USADA test is Ramdom. 12 urine test and (7?) blood test. Random means any day any time any place…all legit

3. They can test Mayweather and Pacman at the same time and dates. no problem

4. Heres the problem. Since many believe that some drugs can be flushed out only witHin 48 hours, the most logical way to test is: Fight day, 3 days before, 5 days before, 7 days, 9, 11, 13 days before..ALL LEGIT

5. URINE TEST can be conducted any other times

6. All blood test is drawn in the arm. Pacquiaos arm will affect his performance (i know, it takes me 3 hours at least for the pain to go away from my arm after i have my blood taken). each of those days, pacquio will have lost 3-4 hours of training hours…The USADA will can legitimateley take those bloodtest on the hours that could greatly affect Pacquios training ang performance. Repeated blood test in this span of time will no doubt affect his arm.. It will do the same to Mayweather but what is the advantage?

7. Pacman’s arm will greatly affect his performance while it will not affect much to Floyd. Why? Because Pacman will rely so much in that arm to beat Floyd while Floyd relies on his feet to dance around and stay away..BIG ADBANTAGE TO FLOYD

8. Couple that with USADA waking up Pacman in the middle of the night to disrupt his slept.

9. Is my presumption asurd? Yes…Is is possible..BETTER BELIEVE IT…..

10..USADA is being used as a tool by the Mayweathers..The testing will work to their advantage..

12. Think of this..suppose it takes 150lbs of pressure to knock out Floyd and anything below that nothing could harm him; by systematically taking away Pacmans, power advantage, he is assuring himself of less than a knockdown beating…Then he can win the fight by points..

MAKE SENSE?

This article sucks, If Manny has nothing to hide take the test. I hate needles but love tattoos, so I don’t have one. Floyd is a smart business man. If he had fought Magarito,or Mosely maybe he would have gotten his ass whipped bythe two cheaters,two fighters he he did not fight… Cotto found out the hard way.And if It goes to the court, The court may ask 4 a blood test anyway.
Freddie Roach makes a lot of demand, He brought in the catch weight crap. I am sick of him and Bob Arum.

This article sucks, If manny has nothing to hide, take the test.

Jason your an idiot! Mayweather wants to use his on testers? Its the United States Anti-doping Agengy! Catch a clue, it doesn’t get any higher or any better you idiot. Its the same organization that the Olympics use.

What a Dumb uninformed misguided article! 1st of all it was B/S From Freddie Roach about Mayweather wanting 2 fight @154 (he can’t even make 154 he only reahed 150 against Dela Hoya when they were supposed 2 fight @154), or that he wanted 10oz gloves and a oversized ring! Mayweather camp came out and let every1 know thruth right away!.. And yea what about PPac getting his a$$ whooped 2wice by Marquez? And who cares about this stupid lawsuit because it won’t go any where. The dumb A$$ is suing FLOYD N GOLDEN BOY prod. … They have done nothing wrong in the way that they’ve handled this… and as far as I’m concerned he’s a cheater there’s really no other way 2 look @it!

Arum is bluffing Malignaggi accused Pac of steriods too….

manny is on the steroids…he scared of needles? C’mon…this dude has tattoo’s all over his body…..I’m actually a fan of the guys but there are two many signs and a lot of professional suspect his using of them but know one actually wants to say it….if he caught he’d destroy a lot of peoples legacies…arum, roach, not to mention himself and taint boxing as well so of course they are not going to leave themselves open to blood test…FOR THE RECORD HGH CAN’T BE DETECTED BY URINE SAMPLES!!!!

GREAT ARTICLE, WE’D LIKE TO HEAR SCHAEFER’S EXPLANATION FOR THE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY’RE FORCING MANNY TO DO, WHILE THEY CAN’T DO THIS WITH SHANE. ALSO, WHAT IS IT ABOUT USADA, SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY HAVE TO USED THIS AGENCY AND NOT THE NHL, MLB, NFL? DO FLOYD AND GOLDENBOY THINKS THAT THIS AGENCY CANNOT PROPERLY ADMINISTER DRUG TEST FOR THE BEST PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES IN THE US? OR IS IS BECAUSE USADA, WITH STRONG TIE TO GOLDENBOY HAS A SPECIFIC AGENDA FOR MANNY ONLY?

wahaha…that’s a floyd’s style of ducking a fight…very brilliant…

Finally! I have been following boxing since the golden era of the seventies and this article reflects my feeling excactly. Wonder how much of a cash advance Golden boy gave money? Looks like their antics have backfired, lets hope Manny wins the lawsuit and donates the money to a battered women’s shelter, since that is the only opponents the mayweathers come forward and punch.

if floyd is 39-1 why did you not mention the 2 loses by manny to marquez…biased idiot!

good article…it’s ridiculous to think testing procedures are decided by an athlete???basically PBF is saying the nevada state athletic commission hasn’t been doing a proper job since it’s inception…so all the fights in las Vegas over the years have lost credibility because testing procedures were no good…pbf is a joke and his resume is nowhere near the best ever…i’d love to see him fight hatton now…not!!!

who cares what kellerman thinks. I think Bernard Dunne is a better opponent for Floyd, though a rematch with hatton is good too. Used to seeing that guy on his back these days.

spot on Giancarlo!! agree with u 100%