Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr., Continued…
December 2nd, 2009
By Fred-Lloyd Brunzki: Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are two of the most interesting topics in the boxing world today and shall be in the future. The speculations and questions will only be settled after they finally meet in the ring to decide who between them is the better boxer. As to who is greater is a different issue. These are the thoughts I would like to share:
2. Pacquiao is the greater boxer – Mayweather is considered the greatest boxer because of his speed and defensive prowess that made him pound-for-pound king with an astonishing 40-0 win-loss record. But that greatness can be negated with a single loss especially if handed by a hand-picked, forgettable opponent. With the way he is choosing his opponents, it would seem that he will be keeping that record. His previous fight with J.M. Marquez was decided in his favor before the fight even started. Much more with his planned fight with Mathew Hatton. If Mayweather is considered great because of his perfect record, then Joe Calzaghe can be regarded in equal breath with him. Also Julio Cesar Chavez Jr and Edwin Valero who never tasted defeat could not be very far behind him in greatness. Manny Pacquiao is totally different story. We all know he became champion in 7-weight divisions and has reported he is hunting an 8th world title probably against a Junior Middleweight Yuri Foreman who is also promoted by Bob Arum. It is a fight for Pacquiao to become greater without losing anything in case of a loss. With his seven world titles in different divisions, he could still be greater than Mayweather even if he loses to the latter. Assuming that all Pacquiao’s fights in the future will result to losses until such time his record is surpassed, nobody could claim greater than him especially that he fought the most respected names who are all future Hall of Famers (Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, dela Hoya, Cotto)
3. 50-50 Purse split is reasonable – If the fight happens between Mayweather and Pacquiao this coming March or May, a 50-50 purse split is reasonable if both fighters are really interested to fight with each other. I believe the fight will happen after Mayweather-Matthew Hatton (sure win for Mayweather) and Pacquiao-Foreman. In the event Pacquiao snatches an 8th division title, the 50-50 purse split will not happen unless Mayweather swallows his pride and accepts a lower share which he should because at this point of their respective careers Mayweather is just an option for Manny Pacquiao. The bargaining table is heavily tilted in favor of Pacquiao much more if he emerges the winner against Foreman. In this case the fight will not happen after all unless Mayweather gives in.
4. The Pacquiao-Mayweather fight – A classic defense versus offense type of fight will characterize the bout. In the game of chess the best defense is offense. Mayweather’s style, unchanged in all his fights, will dictate the tempo of the fight. Basing from the Marquez-Pacquiao fight, we saw how Pacquiao struggled against a counter-puncher but we also saw how Marquez got knocked down by an unseen punch similar to what put down Diaz, Hatton, and Cotto. Dela Hoya could have suffered the same fate if he did not quit before the 10th round. After the Cotto fight, we saw that Pacquiao can deal with a stronger fighter than Mayweather. When the bell rings, Pacquiao will be slightly favored in the power department while Mayweather’s speed and stamina could be in doubt if he can sustain it against Pacquiao’s incredible work rate and blitzkrieg. Pacquiao will surely out-point Mayweather because there is no way that a fearful Mayweather can launch an overwhelming offense against a speedier, stronger, and gutsier Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather’s defensive skill is anchored on his fear to get hit while Pacquiao’s offense is borne from his gladiatorial spirit and this nature will decide the outcome of the fight. If ever Mayweather wins, it will be by decision. Pacquiao, on the other hand, could win by decision or stoppage.
5. Mayweather can duplicate or surpass Pacquiao’s feat – Mayweather has been pound-for-pound king. He is still unbeaten and holds 5-division world titles prior to his retirement. If he goes on fighting in the higher divisions, despite possible few losses on the way, he can equal or even surpass Pacquiao’s 7 division world titles because he has fought in the higher division versus Oscar dela Hoya. I believe that Mayweather can become better by doing what Juan Manuel Marquez did – adding offense to his arsenal that will make him a more exciting fighter that will bring him to new heights of stardom and achievements. Pacquiao has become a better boxer after learning from his 3 losses and acquiring a good trainer in Freddie Roach. Mayweather has his Uncle Roger and father who are self-proclaimed “best trainers in the world” so Mayweather becoming the greatest of all-time cannot be elusive.
6. Pacquiao will pick Valero for his last fight – Contrary to the wishes of Freddie Roach for the Filipino boxing icon to retire after a couple of fights, I believe that after a successful fight with Yuri Foreman, Pacquiao will fight Mayweather and Mosley provided both of them will win against their scheduled opponents. Pacquiao will not defend any of his belts but before retiring he will give a fight to Edwin Valero who deserves a break into a mega-fight. Who knows he may also fight Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. if he captures a title in the Middleweight division. But these fights if ever they happen are anti-climactic because whatever way it goes, Manny Pacquiao’s legacy as the greatest fighter that ever lived is already cemented in the annals of boxing history. To be continued…..
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may weather is going 2 trash pacquiao he has no way 2 beat may weather he is da best boxer n 4 ever will b 40 n 0 get at him
Greatest fighter in history? Come on do you like the pleads in his slacks too? mayweather has fought some good fighters too. Marquez(just like manny), De la hoya ( just like many,) Castillo (in his prime), Corrales ( when he fought him was cosidered one of the best pound for pound.) Manny is great, and will be remembered as one of the best but not all time. TO beat mayweather you need a good jab, size and speed. Mayweather does have power but is the type of fighter that uses his skills to slowly break a fighter down. THis is the way he avoids getting hit and finishes off late or wins in the cards. THe one shot manny pac man has is his gladiator spirit and a surprise punch to mayweather to spook him. OUtside of that mayweather is too good of a boxer. cotto could have probably done much better if he would have continued to box the whole match. What did he do? he exchanged with manny and we all know what happens when you do that win manny. Mayweather will be uncomfortable for a few rounds of the fight. Id say rounds 4,5,6 will be the most challengeing for mayweather. Manny handles power very very well, but he does not handle speed and intelligence well what so ever. IF he had trouble with marquez counters and speed… I have to ask how will he handle floyds? ANyway, i cant wait to see this fight.
If Pacquiao wins, definitely by TKO and everybody will be talking about it for generations.
If Mayweather wins, it will be via split decision and a long boring night. And his next sport will be in Track and Field. Mayweather will be running all night that he can beat Usain Bolt in the 100-m dash.
To be honest , I can’t tell who will win.
And that’s the beauty of this fight.
pacman in every fight develop a new talent to his arsenal,beside catching floyd flying incoming face .his offense ,motion meet opposite motion,think the logical new move for pac is a extra bobbing head stepping in offense punching machine. = unscade
manny is the most exciting fighter since tyson in his prime!
Master Roach was with de la hoya when I wupped his arse. Watch me do the same to pacquaio
I think some of you are forgetting the Master roach effect. I think this will be the key for the fight.
He’s going to find a way to beat Mayweather this time around as he has a better offensive weapon this time than when he had ODLH.
I respect Mayweather a lot but he needs to find a way to neutralise Pacman’s barrage of punches to win even a decision.
Pacman to win on points or 10th round.
people are so hooked on pac man. has anyone forgot that mayweather has beat everyone who’s been put in front of him.he’s a snake with the speed and power angles. He’ll let manny do his thing then punish him for leaping in like he does. manny’s got the purfect style for what PBF has traind for all his life.
I agree with Lechon King for the most part.
Remember, Mayweather does have a good reach on Pac-man and a faster jab. And I’m pretty sure Mayweather will train harder than he ever has. We are going to see Mayweather at his best. Pac-man on the other hand, what are we really going to see different? My prediction Mayweather by decision 115-112.
Lechon King – Hatton never hurt Mayweather once in there bout, he got caught off balance and took a couple of seconds to get his footing right.
This is another biased article against Mayweather. It’s funny some writers on here have been complaining about the negative articles against Pacquiao, then write negative articles against Mayweather – it’s a joke!
Just because Mayweather is unbeaten, naive writers are comparing him to other unbeaten boxers. You know what, there are a good few unbeaten boxers here in Liverpool, they’ve only had 1 or 2 bouts, but there unbeaten so there not far behind Mayweather right?…wrong. He’s a 5 weight World Champion no matter what you think of his previous opposition.
I’m a fan of Pacquiao, but he is not the greatest boxer that has ever lived, even with all his achievements. Let the modern day boxers like Pacquiao and Mayweather box more than 2-3 times a year, then they may have a chance to be compared to legends like Sugar Ray Leonard.
If Mayweather decides to open up some offense that will be he undoing because practically all of his fights are just 1 and 2 combos, lotsa jabs and not many power punches. This will present a lot of opportunity for Manny to hit PBF. And when PBF fought Hatton, on the 1st round, Hatton managed to tag PBF right on the chin and nearly went down. In fact he stumble and quickly grabbed the ropes to keep himself up. Hatton didn’t take advantage when PBF was hurt with that punch and didn’t finish him. Manny hits a lot harder than Hatton and this will present a bigger threat to PBF. However, PBF is very elusive and great defense. This may frustrate Manny but one thing has is patience. Manny will hit PBF hard and when he sees blood, he will go out for the kill. If PBF is afraid of getting hit, that will be his undoing. Manny sometimes thrives on getting hit because it wakes him up and gets adrenalin going. If you watch the Cotto fight, he wanted Cotto to hit him so to feel his power and to set Cotto up. He did what Ali used to do, “rope a dope”. PBF’s fights virtually had no speedsters and great foot work. Manny possesses not power on both hands, but blinding hand speed and great foot work. Punches coming from different angles where the opponent can not see where the punches will come from. He doesn’t telegraph his power punches. Also if PBF uses his hands to block his head, Manny has enough power on both hands to hit those hands that will still rattle PBF’s head. Manny did that to Hatton and Cotto. This is the superfight of the decade and possibly this century. Everyone will be rolling their hands with anticipation. You know for certain I will.
Heard today they are closer to agreeing a deal.
Not sure if this is just the news needing a story.
But i cant wait to see this fight.
It has to happen.
3 Million PPV’s at $55 is about $60 Million dollars each.
Eveyone is talking about Pacquaio V Mayweather, but I also cant wait for Pacquaio V Mayweather II.
They will definitely have a rematch whatever the result. And then possibly a third depending on this.
all i have to say. is i am dying to see this fight!!!!!!!
Pac has never seen an opponent like Mayweather. He has never fought anyone with speed like his and will be completely overwhelmed by intelligence and accuracy when or if he ever fights Floyd. Mark my words…
Where do u get that Mayweather is just an option for Pacquiao? Mayweather can fight other people like Mosley, Williams or Berto. Manny can fight those same people also. They BOTH have other options. They BOTH can make money elsewhere but not as much fighting them fighting eachother. Mayweahter is just an option for Manny LOL, who else can he fight and make the money he will make fighting Floyd? No one
nice article i’ll wait for the other part… keep up the good work.
Pac’s good but the greatest that ever lived? What in his boxing resume actually tells you that?
Greatest fighter that ever lived? Whoooa! Calm down,man. Too drunk from Pac’s recent wins, are we? Greatest fighter that ever lived?
Money has already agreed to the fight with Pac Man, so now its Pacquiao’s turn. March 13!
roy jones just been stopped 1st round
i’d say i still go for pacquiao, defense is nothing if you’re getting barraged with those punches. pacquiao certainly can do that and i think he can take mayweather. scottish gilfoid, are you even trying to read the whole article? 7 world division belts, doesn’t that already make a boxer great? i’m non-pro boxer so i know how great an achievement it is to even have a single belt. i bet it would even be hard for you to get a boxing license..
“If ever Mayweather wins, it will be by decision. Pacquiao, on the other hand, could win by decision or stoppage.” –EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING. Nice analysis Mr.Brunzki.
“Manny Pacquiao’s legacy as the greatest fighter that ever lived is already cemented in the annals of boxing history.”
I like , but it is too much