Is this the Golden age of British Boxing or do we have a bunch of pretenders?
By Scott Gilfoid: To listen to some of the British boxing fans, you would think we’re entering the golden age of British boxing. Who knows? They could be right. I would really like to see a bunch of British boxers take over the sport, if they can. But I don’t see too many British boxers that I can see dominating any of the divisions. I can see some paper champions, at least three of them, but I can see any real dominating fighters that will make me think we’re in a golden era of British boxers. Let’s look what we have in the way of talented British fighters, shall we?
I personally am the wait and see type of person. I’m kind of like Socrates. I see something and then I check it out to see if it’s real. In the case of Khan, I still haven’t seen him fight anyone of talent other than Colombian Breidis Prescott, who looked like a huge tank running over a lamb as he slaughtered Khan in a brutal 1st round knockout last year. I could maybe ignore the loss and see it as a simple mistake if Khan had at least attempted to avenge his defeat to Prescott.
However, Khan has stayed away from Prescott like the plague since the defeat and has instead focused on arguably much safer fights against Osin Fagan, Marco Antonio Barrera, Andriy Kotelnik and Salita. I suppose each of these fighters are good boxers in their own way, but what they aren’t is power puncher. Since Khan’s main weakness is his chin, we don’t know whether he has gotten past that problem or not because he hasn’t fought anyone with power since that fateful night against Prescott. As such, I have to consider Khan fools gold until he shows that he can get in the ring with someone like Prescott or Marcos Maidana and stay in without being knocked out again.
Carl Froch – The WBC super middleweight champion, Carl Froch (26-0, 20 KO’s) had dodged a couple of bullets in 2009 with his victories over first Jermain Taylor and then Andre Dirrell. Froch was knocked down in his fight with Taylor, who many boxing fans think is a shot fighter, and then had to pull out the fight in the 12th round by knocking Taylor out. Froch was behind in the fight and getting a boxing lesson during most of the first half of the fight against Taylor. Froch hardly looked better in his fight with Dirrell in their Super Six tournament fight in October, beating Dirrell by a controversial 12 round split decision in Froch’s home city of Nottingham.
The people that think that Froch won the fight, mainly British boxing fans from my guess, think that he won the fight because Dirrell clinched and moved too much. The British have a term for this kind of fighting, calling “negative.” However, Dirrell appeared to land the much cleaner blows and make Froch miss with many of his shots all night long. If you think that Breidis Prescott had problems connecting against Kevin Mitchell, then you need to see the troubles that Froch had in trying to land against Dirrell.
Froch simply couldn’t land with any deal of accuracy until he started to rough Dirrell up and hit him on the inside, in some cases resorting to holding and hitting and throwing rabbit punches. The referee took a passive role in the fight and did little to stop the fouling other than penalizing Dirrell of all people for an occasional clinch.
But based on how Froch fought against both Dirrell and Taylor, I have to say that Froch won’t likely be holding his WBC title for long. I fully expect Froch to lose his next Super Six fight against recently beaten Mikkel Kessler on April 17th. And after that, I see Froch losing to Arthur Abraham in another Super Six fight. Because of that, I see Froch as fools gold like Khan and not the fighter that will bring the golden era of British boxing to the people.
David Haye – Recently, Haye defeated WBA heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev by a 12 round majority decision last month to capture the WBA title. It was a terrible fight to watch, with few punches thrown a massive amount of running being down by Haye. He complained later of hurting his hand early in the fight, but Haye was horrible to watch even in the 1st round with his running.
Haye has been big about bragging about himself and saying how he wants to fight the Klitschko brothers, but when push came to shove, Haye backed out of fights with both of the Klitschko brothers. Other than that, all we have to show for Haye’s fights in the past year are wins over Monte Barrett, Valuev, and Enzo Maccarinelli. None of those fighters are considered to be the best in their divisions.
Haye didn’t look all that good in the Barrett fight, and appeared to get knocked down at one point in the fight. The referee ruled it a slip, but it looked like a legitimate knockdown to me. I think Haye looked poor in the Barrett and Valuev fight, and I don’t count Haye’s cruiserweight experience because the division is too weak to really even consider. As such, I don’t see Haye as the type of fighter capable of holding down a heavyweight world title for very long, and I certainly see him as the type of fighter that will bring a new golden age for British boxing. I can see him being golden against exclusively British fighters, but if Haye has to fight other fighters from around the world, I see the gold turning to copper.
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I agree with the comments on Froch.. but Haye and Khan are so much better than you make out.. you’ll see!..
And Scott keep up the good work. Because you know you’re doing something right when people are hating on you so hard.
I’d say we have a bunch of pretenders.
great work scott you complete amateur.
I think this is a little being negative for the sake of being negative, I tend to agree partly with regard to Froch, Kahn has still a lot to learn, but unlike yourself I believe that a Kahn Prescott rematch nowadays would be a very different affair compared to what happened 12 months ago, as for Haye, you seem to forget that Monte Barrett was his first fight at heavyweight, he may have slipped, he may have been knocked down, but during the fight he knocked down MB some 5 times, and that were definitely not slips…
scott thats wot i mean sparring next year. fury got 2 fight mcmuffin next.
SCOTT UR NOT MY FRIEND SO SHUT IT
Mowtownhitman- I heard David Haye asked Tyson Fury to spar with him in preparation for the Valuev fight but i don’t know the outcome.
uk is wales england scotland and ireland. u stands for united, get it now and andrew. andrew fury cant fight pacman or mayweather they too small
Will people stop writing in my friend Andrew Evans’s name. Thank You
andrew fury is a gysey so e could b from anywhere, they constantly travel and i know e spent alot of time in brighton, thats when e use 2 spar with danny williams, my souces tell me fury is bein lined up 2 fight haye next year.
UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Great Britain is England Scotland and Wales. I thought Tyson Fury was from Southern Ireland. So British must be from England Scotland or Wales.
I thought Tyson Fury was Irish.
andy u know nothing, tyson fury will follow in the footsteps of frank bruno, then u can all look out. fury is only commonwealth champ at mo but wud destroy the likes of pacman and mayweather.
Barerra not a power puncher ? … Brilliant
is mrzxza actually talking trash what happened to your suave and styish way of commenting? oh well i guess theres a first for everything.
Hi Scott Socrates Gilfoid, has a bit of a ring to it. You are a bit of a cult figure here in the UK. O sorry I spelt that wrong should be cu figure.
Andy when you learn how to construct a full sentence come back and talk to me. When you actually learn something about boxing come back and talk to me…CHUMP!
Why do people result to name calling when they do not agree with someone’s perspective. Everyone has an opinion and just because a person’s opinion doesn’t agree with yours that does not warrant such hostility.
your kinda like socrates?
was he a pri*k too?
your kinda like socrates?
was he a prk too?
You’re not even british you knobhead so why comment so much on our fighters. By the way, Barrett hit Haye twice while he was down after he slipped, it wasn’t a knockdown. I’d love to hear you explain away Haye beating both Klitschko’s and Froch cleaning up the super-middleweight division. You don’t have a clue
Hey Scott, what about Nathan Cleverly.? Remenber that name because he is going to take out the likes of Chad Dawson. All the American heavy weights need to change to Sumo wrestling.
Your trying to say that Barrera (even though past his prime) doesnt have a hard punch?
is this a yank writing this stuff ???? i agree with the froch bit cos i think he’s cp but amir and haye come on …..
i think scotts one of those yanks that thinks hes a paddy !!
top of the morning to you ! pric*
did you just compare yourself to socrates??? nob!!!!!
Your talking rubbish, as usual.
If you follow Nostradamus, he’ll tell you:
The Klitschco’s will both get knocked out by Haye. They are both too old and slow to fight him. Looking to the future, Tyson Fury will be a champ in 2-3 years.
Herbie Hide will beat anyone in the cruiserweight division – they are all s**t scared of fighting him.
Nathan Cleverly will be champ at light heavy in 2011, by knocking out either Chad Dawson (if he passes the drugs test) or Tavoris Cloud, who is a bum.
Froch will win the super six, the go for a big payday against Hopkins, who will be far too old, and get knocked out a’la roy jones/danny green.
Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin will both be middleweight world champs in 2010.
At light middle, Ryan Rhodes deserves a shot, and will be champ in 2010. Along with Gavin Rees, John Murray, Kevin Mitchell etc etc etc
I reckon the UK could have ten world champs by 2011. More than the US anyway.
L O S E R!!
i cant remember a time in the last 20 years when there were so few quality british fighters at world level. Haye and Khan may have world titles, but you cant pretend that are the true champions at their weight. they deserve some credit, but it will be a huge upset if haye beats the klitchkos, and if khan cleans up the lightweight division with his glass jaw. Froch has not been impressive since he moved into world class, and even though he has a punchers chance, i would be astonished if he won the super six classic. so who else is even on the verge of world level. only two names come to mind, john murray and kevin mitchell both have potential to become real top class operators but theyre not quite there yet. So i think it would be more appropriate to place the golden age of british boxing in the 90s when we really did have some proper world champs.
i agree with what u said about froch 100 percent but u r being a bit hastey with ur comments on both haye and khan. haye was injured at the time of the klitschko arangement so you cant judge him for that alone, and amir khan will be the next best thing when he beats maidana
As much the higher percentage of visitors to the site are British it comes to no surprise whatsoever that there are so many articles like this from you
What is your fight prediction for the heavy weights tomorrow??
Amir Khan
Good fighter, Great fighter? yet to be seen. But you trully need to remove yourself from prescott’s bottom. He was brutally knocked out by him but he has bounced back and although he is getting hyped over a pretty much meaningless fight, he did what he had too.
Carl Froch
Totally agree with what you say other than i think its 50/50 in the Kessler fight as both have a lot to prove.
David Haye
I think he can defeat anyone in the heavyweight divsion other than the Klitchkos. Suppose thats not great but its something. But bare in mind that Monte Barret was a top 15 opponent, tomasz Bonin had a great record, Enzo Mac was ranked No.2 in the divsion under this man David Haye and Mormek was ranked No.1 or 2 in the division before Haye came along
All in all if it wasn’t for the large amount of Brit hate this could have been a great article.