Are the Pound for Pound Kings – Mayweather and Pacquiao – damaging boxing?
December 24th, 2009
By Shaun Campbell: Mind games, promotional hype, or are the fighters simply scared of each other? It seems to be one problem after another for the Pacquiao/Mayweather super-fight proposed to take place on March 13th. The fight has neither been announced or called off yet, but constant obstacles seem to be hindering progress. These two men are the pound of pound kings, so it’s about time they started acting like the champions they really are.
Are these problems all arranged? Are they planned to add hype to the fight? The first problem was the weight/catch-weight at which each fighter wanted the bout to be at. Freddie Roach apparently wanted the fight at a catch weight and stated if Mayweather comes in over the weight limit (as he did against Marquez) then he would pull Manny out the fight. Team Mayweather wanted it at the welterweight limit of 147 pounds. Finally this dispute was settled.
The next problem was more to do with the promoters rather than the fighter and their team. It is no secret Bob Arum and Floyd Mayweather do not see eye to eye, and Mayweather wanted the venue of the mega bout to be the MGM Grand Las Vegas. Team Pacquiao seemed pretty relaxed stated that they will fight anywhere. But Arum decided that money was more important, and it looked certain that a football stadium in Dallas would host the fight. It is likely that the fight will be held in boxing’s capital city, Las Vegas on the greatest stage, the MGM Grand.
Now. After constant jibes from Floyd Mayweather snr, Paulie Malignaggi and some members of Mayweather’s camp, there is growing speculation about Pacquiao using illegal substances to enhance his performance within training. Yes it is a phenomenal task for a man to move from around 110 pound, all the way up to 147 and carry his power with him, but impossible without the help of steroids? Personally Manny Pacquiao seems like on of the most honest fighters in the sport. So this writer would find it hard to believe he has taken steroids under the guidance of hall of fame trainer, Freddie Roach. Seems to me excuses made up by members of Mayweather entourage, maybe others will disagree. The argument is by most people though is not that Pacquiao shouldn’t be tested, but why shouldn’t every fighter get the same treatment? Surely knowing that drug tests which will monitored will help clean up the sport, which to be fair, has remained fairly clean recently at the top level.
The boxing viewing public will not accept any other fight after being teased with Mayweather vs Pacquiao. If they want PPV sales, the smart choice would be to compromise with each other and get the fight made. I’m not a fan of MMA or UFC, but you have to respect the fighters. The best fight the best. No one is too worried about undefeated records. Ultimate supremacy is all that matters. Maybe boxing can take something from MMA?
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Please don’t blame ether the Mayweather or Pacquiao camps for failing to deliver the contest to determine the greatest fighter on the planet.
It’s not their fault.
The greatest fighter on the planet battles in the UFC!
– MrJM
This is just another escape for mayweather and using his cohorts to doit (GBP). what does ZERO loss really mean is it that important as far as I remember all great boxers in that world all have lossess. I guess it will be upto history if they will remember Mayweather Jr. the DUCK or the ZERO….
They want random testing. Let them also do bloodtesting in every round as well. for the fighter who gets cut first lucky they dont need to stick needles anymore they just take the blood from the cut
im a boxer. but at the moment, boxing sucks, it takes like 3 / 4 months for a super fight,
where as ufc those guys kick ass.
is the p4p ranking kiling boxing
yes, boxers dont fight for titles no more, they fight for money, the more the money the higher the p4p rankings.
why would pacman fight paul ??
fight paul willaims instead.
paul willaims is underrated,
at the moment i hate both pacman and mayweather they is too much curuption.
please paul take the fight, and kick there asses
Pacman agreed on 3 blood testing, If the random testing falls within 30 days before the fight Pacman should demand 20 million dollars for every drawn blood and have negative results. Of course, Mayweather will get 20 Million if found positive. If Pacman is clean and we know he’s clean, he need to punish Mayweather by demanding stiffer money penalty.
I agree with john allen and Ren! You people hate on mayweather for no reason at all! His camp is just protecting their fighter. Cotto almost died cause a guy had hard cast in his gloves. If you clean you clean whats the fuss? How is he duckin him? Cause he want strict test? Yall sound stupid with that bull! Take the Damn test and lets fight. Flatout!
i wont be surprised even if the pacmen agree to all of their demends,the mayweathers will later ask for random blood test even in the midle of the fight
Boxing sucks…UFC rules. And please don’t do this kind of thing to UFC. Drug testing == what’s the difference?
Oh i forgot to ask this question. Since the mayweather sr. really want to have this olympic style drug test. We should just ask him what drugs or steriod to look for that cant be detect on urine test. As a drug user himself he has that much experience
if pacman is clean and genius why not take the test to shut everyones mouth the pacman fans are the thrue haters here you see more bad talk on mayweather then on pacman stop the hate on mayweather
The lead author of the study, Dr. Hau Liu of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center in San Jose, California stated, that it does not help athletic performance in any way. Dr. Liu even went as far as to state that it may worsen athletic performance a bit. The study found that HGH does add muscle, but they found that it does not appear to improve strength. They did find that HGH actually caused side effects such as swelling and fatigue. Spread the word. It takes skills, speed, and defense.
Pacquiao is the most genius among all, now, let’s see in face of the law if pacquiao is innocent or not. Pacquiao’s camp will sue the mayweather’s and dela hoya’s in court. It is not the USADA who will prove that Pacquiao is clean, but the law itself. Pacquiao’s camp is GENIUS!!!!!
if you talk about damaging boxing, i will say yes pacquiao is making history here.
he has fought perhaps the only exciting boxers left in the sport and even ended the careers of some of them. but now it appears this guy was taking drugs all along. this is devastating news?
how far does this go?
is the whole roach camp taking drugs?
mayweather is demanding for a fair fight and sportsmanship…
it is opposite when he fought marquez because he came in the ring with a big disparity, neither he honor their contract about thier weight. where is the fairness and sportsmanship that he is talking about?
mayweather must have lost his sanity…
hOW CAN ANYONE TAKE fmj AND mAYWEAQTHER PROMOTIONS SERIOSLY! Mayweather Promotions isn’t even licensed in it’s own hometown of Las Vegas Nevada. Technically they can’t even promote a fight in Nevada that’s why they have Golden Boy Promotions negotiating the fight for them. So think about it how legit can FMJ and his people be if they can’t handle their own business in their own hometown. If FMJ does not take this fight he kills his boxing career.
FLOYD IS RUNAWAY BOXER.YOUR MOUTH IS BIGGER THAN YOUR BRAIN MEN IM SORRY BRO.OPEN YOUR MOUTH ITS EMTY THAT’S WHY YOUR BRAIN IS EMTY TO.
This whole thing is just a smear campaign. Floyd is playing as if it wouldn’t be a fair fight even if they didn’t test. Manny has always been clean. There is nothing mystifying about his rise through the weights. he’s always been this big. His power? It comes from his legs. Just look throughout boxing. How many fighters have calves bigger than their arms? Almost none. I would never wish harm on someone, but what Floyd is doin is absolutely despicable. He’s a terrible human being, but i find solace knowing that he will get what’s coming to him. If not in this fight, then in life. You can believe that.
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IT’S SIMPLE PEOPLE…… MAYWEATHER IS DUCKING ANOTHER FIGHTER…. HE’S DONE IT FOR MOST OF HIS CAREER. HOW CAN HE BE A LEGEND AND BUILD A LEGACY IF HE AIN’T FOUGHT THE BEST. AS OF RIGHT NOW, PACMAN IS THE BEST. HE POSES SUCH A TREAT TO MAYWEATHER THAT THIS IS JUST A WAY OUT AGAIN. HE DOESN’T FIGHT MOSELY OR MARGARITO. HE SAYS CAUSE THEIR CHEATERS. NO IT’S BECAUSE HE’S SCARED… HE KNOWS THEIR TO BIG FOR HIM. BUT HE CAN TAKE A FIGHT FROM MARQUEZ… COME ON PEOPLE…. HE PICKS WHO WANTS TO FIGHT. HE NOT FIGHTING TO BE THE BEST BUT FIGHTING TO KEEP AN UNBEATEN RECORD!!!! THIS AIN’T ABOUT CHEATING A DRUG TEST. BLOOD TEST HASN’T BEEN USED SO FAR IN BOXING SO CHANGE IT NOW. IF MAYWEATHER BELIEVES HE WILL DOMINATE THIS FIGHT, THEN WHY ALL THE EXCUSES. OH I KNOW BECAUSE PACMAN STARTED AT 110LBS HE STILL HITS HARD. WELL MAYWEATHER CAME FROM A LIGHTER WEIGHT FROM WHERE HE IS NOW AND WON SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS. HE STILL HAS HIS SPEED AND POWER. SO WHY ALL THE RUMORS ABOUT PACMAN USING DRUGS. FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT MAYWEATHER MAKES EXCUSES TO DUCK FIGHTERS AND PACMAN FIGHTS EVERBODY….
where can you find a team who demands a weight catch, and astronomical fines for being slightly over weight, mayweather is doing his bit, cause wapakman cant have everything his own way, i like both fighters, but you pacman fans cant take nothing, what if it was floyd refusing the drug test, you will terrorise him until he digs his own grave and jumps in it. i know you have a slight superstition in your mind thats thinking come on man take it, but your egos inside is not letting you.
pacman is the one that don’t want to take the test it’s pacman ho is walking away off this fight mayweather agreed to his 10 mil penalthy why can he agreed to this it’s not like pacman will be taking the test by him self mayweather will take the same test if it was only pacman ho will take the test then there is an problem but it not
i really hope mayweather is just posturing, cause if floyd is really paranoid about manny having extra spinach power then he already loss the bout before even the fight happen. because once manny start hitiing floyd so hard he’s going to think, man i can’t beat this guy, he’s into sumething aint rigth. manny already won again! or his prove floyd really is a psychological coward. HAPPY HOLIDAY ALL.
fraud jr, i mean floyd jr would rather fight other boxer than pacman, mosley, cotto, the punisher, margarito to preserve his questionable undefeated records. he would rather settle for half of what he would get from pacman fight than be tko in the first round. he did it to margarito and mosley so he is repeating himself again. the pretty boy would be ugly boy if he fights pacman and he knows it just fraud sr, i mean floyd sr. he was the handler of hatton and he got embarrased after saying so many things negative about pacman so his last resort was illegal substance. i can’t wait to see the face of fraud sr, i mean floyd sr and paul when they receive notice from pacman lawyers – this will be an easy feasting for pacman lawyers – they will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Only Mayweather is destroying the sport of boxing. Him and his antics.
fraud jr, i mean floyd jr can’t retire at this time. he needs money to pay his debtors. besides uncle roger and fraud sr, i mean floyd sr can’t pass this once in a lifetime paycheck for them. they wanted to ruin pacman but they overlooked one thing they don’t have cedibility. the public know who they are but the sad part his fans who like chicken dance, taunting and running which they called boxing are buying it. i don’t know how much these fraud jr and sr, i mean floyd jr and sr fanatics are putting them into. ignorance of the law is no excuse at all.
It’s only Floyd who’s damaging boxing. Where can you find a guy who all of a sudden demands an Olympic style drug testing? Who can give more drama that lil’ ol Floyd? Pacman takes on ANYONE. and from what i understand, he’s the MAIN REASON THAT BOXING ISN’T DYING ANYMORE. So let’s all blame Floyd
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@ Matt
C’mon, man! You actually think that way? Another loser buying the Mayweather Theory!
I dont’ think you know this, but the Mayweathers are of low credibility, if they have anything left. It’s not Manny walking away, it’s the one who makes unnecessary demands. Be objective on these things and that should be enough for you to change your mind about buying Mayweather’s excuses…
the next condition of fraud jr, i mean floyd jr is this don’t sue my daddy and i will fight you now. fraud jr, i mean floyd jr will say you can still get money from paul and all my fans that really love and even going to die for me. fraud jr, i mean floyd jr will continue to say that all my fans love my style of chicken dance and running, mocking my opponent in the ring, disrecpect everyone because they are like me but the only difference they don’t have money like me so you might still get millions from all fraud jr, i mean floyd jr fans. lastly, he will say, please share with me the winning from slanderous and libel accusations because in the first place it was my dad’s doing. march 13 is set.
@ omar jones
That’s your opinion, though you sounded prety strong on your statement, but still is an opinion. You can’t be sure of that without proOf. You sound like Mayweather Sr. Are you omnipotent as he is? LOL
fraud jr, i mean floyd jr fans are really getting the beating nowadays. they hate pacman because they know that fraud jr, i mean floyd jr are giving all the excuses and the sad part his fans are buying it – what a group of losers. anyway, misery loves company. i challenge all of you pacman haters to say that pacman is taking illegal substance. when pacman lawyers separate you to floyd sr. i mean floyd sr and paul you are going to get the dose of accusations. the simple is fight – what is so hard on that. pacman agreed to all the cry baby demands from 147 lbs, to vegas, blood and urine tests, prize money, name billing, march 13, type of gloves – what else he wants – fight or reality show.
@ michael dawson
C’mon, dude! Why would you let someone bully you to do things that are not necesary at all?
pacman will always have the last laugh. when his lawyers start doing all the subpoenas to get all the IP addresses of these fraud jr, i mean floyd jr fans they will start hiding under from fraud sr, i mean floyd sr pants. the first witness is the nevada state boxing commission. i don’t know how much the lawyers are going to get from fraud jr, i mean floyd jr fans. yes, the truth of the matter pacman is the man. before it was fraud jr that could command the ppv but not anymore because those that love boxing don’t like chicken dance and running. fraud jr, i mean floyd jr fought only those second best or declining boxers. he avoided the likes of margarito, cotto, mosley, the punisher and now pacman. he got so many excuses that he got to invent more and spread lies in the media that his fans are buying. again, wait when pacman start suing all his accusers – start saving now.
@ Louisville Fight Fan
You may say so, but I didn’t even see a Filipino fighter chicken out on a fight either. I bet you haven’t even heard of other Filipino boxers had their life in jeopardy after getting physical punishment from a fight.
You’re argument only tells that you’re one-sided.
boxing has been going down for a long time.
look at the a amateur boxing and the scoring system in the Olympics, it’s pathetic.
come to the professionals you have doggy match-ups so boxers can build up good records to deceive the fans into buying PPV (pay per view) shows.
don’t forget genuine boxers who never get a title shot and are earning nothing on the margins.
now this, THE DRUG TAKERS. yes this is definitely ruining boxing even more.
Mayweather unretired the day before the Pacquiao-Hatton fight, and quickly regretted the next day after seeing how Pacquiao demolished Dela Hoya causing him to retire. Mayweather knows he himself hardly beat Dela Hoya on a split decision which many felt should have gone the other way. His fear got magnified when Pacquiao then demolished Hatton in just two rounds. He said to himself “oh, wow! Bummers!” When Cotto remarked that that punch could have KO’d Tyson, Mayweather was already desperately planning his getaway. Pacquiao next gave Cotto the worst beating of his life, worse than what Magarito did to him. Floyd Jr vomited every day for two weeks straight. When Floyd Sr unwittingly commented that nobody can beat Pacquiao; to be strong like superman (or something like it), he must be on something, Floyd Jr broke down in tears.
Dad, “I’m scared.”
“Don’t worry, we’ll think of something,” Sr answered
Meanwhile Mayweather continues talking macho for all to see, like a Chihuahua that barks and charges at pit bulls, knowing they are on the other side of the fence. But now Mayweather’s fence is collapsing. It seems that every time they rewire it and add more barb wire, Pacquiao untangles it. The enemy is closing in! Call in the last line of defense!
“But, Dad,” lil Floyd Jr said, “Pacquiao’s been tested so many times and has always come out clean.”
“I have an idea,” responded big Floyd, “this time we’ll demand Olympic-style blood test.”
“Oh, geez, you know he’s gonna pass that too.”
“It’s just the first part. We then demand background checks on all those who did the testing.”
“But they will never agree; they are doctors, nurses, med technologists under professional code.”
“You are learning, son.”
Now Mayweather’s defense is impenetrable, not only inside the ring, but outside it too.
I wonder why the Mayweathers not meet halfway? Manny agrees to be blood tested right after the fight, which will, I believe, will have the same result as drawing blood a day or hours before the fight, so why not go for that?
Mayweather makes accussations without proof, then demands more than necessary? Maybe afraid of gettin a dose of your own medicine? Sorry, Floyd, Manny is not known for gaining undue advatnage as you did with Marquez, and to me, looks like you’re making all excuses you can to protect your professional record from getting an L…
I’ll tell you who needs what. Mayweather needs to pay his taxes. Trust, he needs this fight. HE can’t borrow money from De La Hoya and Haymon forever.
I HATE NEEDLES AND WOULD NOT TAKE IT IF NOT MANDATORY AND IM SURE PAC MAN FEELS THE SAME WAY U MORONS THAT SAY HE IS HIDING SOMETHING HE IS NOT , TAKING BLOOD OUT OF PEOPLE AFFECTS EVERY ONE DIFFERNET, MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER TAKE IT BETTER THAN ME AND LAUGH AT ME WHEN I TAKE A BLOOD TEST, BUT WHEN I DO IT MAKES ME WANT TO FAINT AND AFFECTS ME FOR ABOUT A WEEK, I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT I KNOW WHAT MANNY FEELS!
What I love is when Pactards say that Mayweather “needs” Pacquioa more than Paquiao “needs”. This sounds like the most pathetic way to get out of a fight that I’ve ever heard. You say that Mayweather is looking way out because he wants Pacquiao to submit to the most rigorous drug screening that there is. Which in sports these days is totally reasonable, but then you jump in with these Pacquiao doesn’t need Mayweather wild and outlandish claims. The only reason Pacquioa has the W.B.O. title is because Mayweather vacated it when he retired, but Pacquiao doesn’t need Mayweather. Mayweather is only one of the guys who fought in the highest selling boxing event in the history of the sport. And before you give all of the credit to De la Hoya lets remember that De la Hoya has not surpassed or even equaled this number with any other opponent, including with Pacquiao. Who really needs who? I guess Pacquioa needs Yuri Foreman instead. Or is the inference that Pacquiao can retire now and doesn’t need to face anyone? If this ends up being the reason that the negotiations fall apart the only opponents Pacquiao will have are those with zero negotiation power. Ala Yuri Foreman.
@ Rwill
In that guy’s other article, the writer stated that blood tests can detect drugs that are no longer there.
If that’s the case then I don’t know what the problem is with getting tested immediately after the fight.
By J. Michael Falgoust, USA TODAY
Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer isn’t ready to throw in the towel yet on the proposed megafight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. A day after Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, declared that the proposed March 13 welterweight championship bout between the two in Las Vegas is off because of a dispute over Olympic style drug testing, Schaefer insisted Wednesday that the deal can be finalized — without Arum.
FIGHT IN JEOPARDY:Olympic-style drug testing the last hurdle
“The only one who can call off the fight is Manny Pacquiao. It’s not Bob Arum. No one wants to see Bob Arum fight,” said Schaefer of Mayweather’s former promoter. “He should let more qualified people (handle this) … He should really shut up.”
The Nevada State Athletic Commission, which caught Fernando Vargas in 2002 for using stanozolol in its first year of steroid testing, uses urine samples instead of blood. Mayweather wants random blood testing.
Pacquiao, who began his career at 106 pounds as a 17-year-old in 1995, has only agreed to blood testing in January when the fight was expected to be announced, 30 days before the fight and immediately afterwards.
“I believe Manny Pacquiao has not been properly briefed on the procedures,” Schaefer said. “This is not like they’re taking a gallon of blood. It’s non-intrusive. They’re taking less than a teaspoon. … There are many substances that can only be detected in blood.”
While Schaefer wouldn’t issue a deadline for Pacquiao to agree to the blood-testing language, for the March 13 date to hold up a deal needs to be finalized no later than early January to arrange press tours and solidify sponsorships.
Press tours had been planned for Los Angeles and New York in the second week of January. Arum insisted Tuesday that he’s looking for other opponents for Pacquiao on March 13.
“I would like to hear from Manny what his position is,” said Schaefer, hoping Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach and Top Rank President Todd duBoef will intervene to save the bout. “Manny can very easily put this whole thing to rest. I respect Bob. I have nothing against Bob. He is a very emotional guy but he has these outbursts.
“When it comes to a fight of this magnitude, where egos and tempers flare and many other things get involved, that doesn’t help the situation. Calmer heads have to prevail to pull off this fight. Freddie Roach is a sensible guy. So is Todd.”
The NSAC can do out-of-competition testing, but according to executive Keith Kizer, it doesn’t happen often because of budget cuts. Steroid tests cost the commission about $150 each. On the night of a fight, tests are performed for title bouts and the main event and paid for by the promoter.
Kizer said Pacquiao, who has fought in Las Vegas 10 times since 2004, has not been tested out-of-competition. Neither has Mayweather. His last five fights have been in Las Vegas.
“We try to stay pattern-less. That’s part of the deterrent,” Kizer said. “Six weeks before a fight or four weeks before a fight we’ll have a guy go in one of our affiliated labs.”
Negotiations appeared to be going smoothly up to this point, with Arum having praised Schaefer as being easy to work with for the past month. Schaefer, however, paints a different picture.
“Bob Arum really never wanted the fight. After I had the first meeting with Bob in Vegas, whenever there was an issue he said, ‘There’s no fight.’ He’s looking for any excuse not to do the fight.”
According to Schaefer, shortly after Golden Boy released a statement Tuesday to media that the bout was in jeopardy around 6:30 p.m. ET, Arum instead wanted to do a third fight between Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, also a Golden Boy fighter, who moved up two weight classes to 147 and lost to Mayweather in September. Pacquiao has fought Marquez twice, scoring a draw and a close decision when both were at 126 and 130 pounds.
“These days with masking agents, if you know when you’re being tested a lot of things can be covered up. I’m sure Floyd Mayweather has nothing to hide. I’m sure Manny Pacquiao has nothing to hide and is a clean athlete,” Schaefer said.
“You’re losing more blood in the fight than we’re talking here. You’re in a bloodsport and you’re afraid of less than a teaspoon of blood? Somehow it doesn’t add up to me. It just sounds a bit strange.”
Mayweather came in over the previously contracted 144 pounds against Marquez, his first bout since 2007. So Arum, Schaefer said, made an 11th-hour demand of a $10 million penalty per pound if Mayweather weighed in the day before the fight above 147. Mayweather agreed to it.
Although both sides have taken strong stands to get what they want, Schaefer said friction between the promotional heads was not completely unexpected.
“I’m shocked,” Schaefer said, “but I’m not surprised. If you have an opportunity to stage the biggest event in the history of boxing, sensitivity and diplomacy is key.”
I wanna know what the proof is behind the steroid allegations.
Him not wanting to test is not proof, although it is suspicious, it’s not proof.
I keep hearing people repeat the words of Big Floyd like little parrots. But where’s the proof. What makes you actually feel that way, other than hate for Pacquiao and his legion of fans.
And why does it have to be racial? Can we please stop saying that people that back Pacquiao must be Filipino. No one is saying that only the Blacks like Floyd, so please, race does not need to be included here. Besides, there aint that many Filipinos in the world.
LOL! Just like Pavlik would knock Bernard out!! Bernard told him after he destroyed him in the fight you need to learn the craftiness of a black fighter, then you will be alright. Once again, I like Pac-man but he doesn’t have the skill set nor the craftiness to deal with the likes of Floyd. Pacman is slow and robotic. The fight doesn’t happen because pacman doesn’t want to give up a little blood, please!!!!!!! Floyd scared….lol…I’ve never seen a chicken from the inner city of Detroit. My reservations are booked for Vegas. I’m just waiting on the ticket sails.
hey matt, don’t change your computer because this is my tip to you. team pacman is getting all the ip addresses of his accusers – make sure you have money to defend yourself or else start eating bean and taco
hey matt, team pacman will get your ip address and you can be included when pacman starts suing people like you. it shows you just hate pacman because your guys are beaten by him. for you pacman got to be beaten – it means you don’t know boxing. it is almost 2010 stop living in the past – you might a good new year resolutions.
Matt…
you sound like Dumb ass Floyd Sr.
Pac’s officail weight for Marquez was 130. His fight night weight was around 144. As a matter of fact, he weighed that much on fight night with Morales, Barrera and Diaz. So no, we aren’t suppose to believe that a 130lbs guy can beat up a 147lb man with just food. But that’s not what happened here is it? Get you facts straight clown.
And remember Paquaio fans…
A dog is for life…not just for christmas dinner.
let’s say pacman agreed to fraud jr, i mean floyd jr wishes. that his friends are going to do the testing then the fight should be sactioned by the olympic committee and whoever wins got to be given an olympic medal. what pacman don’t want is how many testing the friends of fraud jr are going to do. fraud jr, i mean floyd jr can’t pass this fight because of the money he is going to get to be able to settle with the IRS. what he is doing now is playing mind games, dictating the tempo, getting publicity and the worst of them all painting pacman as the bad guy when in fact he is the very essence of the bad guy in boxing. he got undefeated record by avoiding the best fighters in his time. his dad and paul will be sued by team pacman one of these days and one of his conditions to pacman please don’t sue my fraud sr, i mean my dad i am goign to fight now.
I’m not ignorant at all, Rob. You were the one thats showing ignorance by claiming Khan is better than Mayweather.
A good diet consists of healthy proteins like fish and chicken, proteins like rice, potatoes and pasta as well as various fruit and vegitables.
Now we are suppose to believe that in the space of 18 months Paquiao has gone from being slapped around the ring by Marquez at 130lbs to taking Cotto’s 147lb WOrld title while laughing off his best shots, all by a good diet?
Him being prepared to walk away from the biggest fight of all time because he refuses to be blood tested to see if there is any trace of growth hormone in his system says all I need to know, he clearly has something to hide.
Pacman has never tested positive for a test! Ever! So a couple of idiots start saying he’s taking steriods and everybody believes them! Doesn’t make much sense to me! They guy doesn’t like to get his blood drawn and he’s agreed to get it done anyway, but because he won’t get it done a night before the fight he’s guilty of something? Give me a break! Mayweather Sr. just doesn’t want his boy to get his ass kicked!
hey matt, you are so ignorant that you know the food of pacman. don’t you know he is now millionaire. i bet you don’t even have the money of pacman. get a life. styles make boxing – it doesn’t mean you have a hard time with one boxer you are going to have another hard time with different boxer.
Yobski
Before the DLH vs PAC fight, Sr. went on the record that he believes DLH will KO Pac no matter if DLH is past his prime or that their match is at 147. Yet, immediately after the Pac made DLH quit in 8, Senior made the proclamation that DLH was dehdyrated and that’s the reason he lost to pac. Then a lot of people even respectable ones bought into the dehydrated theory.
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It was Roach who said about DLH being dehydrated, he said it on Paquaio/Hatton HBO 24/7, look it up on youtube on episode one 5.10 an onwards.
if pacman said no when fraud jr, i mean floyd jr challenged him on march 13 (which is very early for him considering his broken eardrums), fraud jr, i mean floyd jr would tell the whole world that pacman don’t want to fight him just like what he did to mosley and margarito. when pacman agreed for march 13, he damanded too many things first no one would say anything until the contract is finalized. but he deceived team pacquioa and went to media stating pacman don’t want to be blood tested when in fact this is given and he even agreed 30 days before the fight, during the announcement and the day after the fight. so what’s else do you want fraud jr, i mean floyd jr. if i were you stay retard i mean go on retirement – you are fooling all the people and all your fans cannot see what are you doing to them.
hey matt….they are both walking away from the fight.
Dec 24,2009
Finally the press got the answer…Mayweather only fights fighters that he can beat. Maybe Arum was right by calling him a COWARD. If I am Pacquiao I will not waste my time with a loser who bragged having money and yet the IRS has to leaned on his price money with the marquez fight to collect.
Manny fanboys are such an embarrassment.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why your man is willing to walk away from the biggest fight in history over being asked to take random drugs tests if he has nothing to hide?
If Paquiao doesn’t agree to be tested then this will be a stain on his career forever and a big question mark will hang over all of his achievements.
You don’t go from being knocked around by Marquez to laughing off Cotto’s biggest punches in the space of 18 months by filling up on fish, rice and peas.
Floyd Jr. said he can’t be beat.
He said Pacquiao is an easy fight.
Pacquiao is one dimensional.
Pacquiao can’t fight “by Sr.”
Pacquiao is small.
Do you believe what you ever say Floyd?
Come on fight him, steroids or no steroids…if you loose,
you have something to yap about…”he beat me because he’s on steroids or something”…and if you win, so much the better…”I beat him even he’s on steroids, so I’m the greatest”
Come on Floyd do it….it’s for your own good.
Floyd is great…Floyd is unbeatable is true only if you don’t fight the best… No fight..no loose..just like the safety meeting…don’t do anything, you don’t get into an accident.
let’s say pacman agreed to this great pretender. this fraud i mean floyd will ask his friends in this olympics committe to get blood from pacman the day before the fight. how about if fraud sr, i mean floyd sr got the blood of pacman – oh my my – it will be the biggest news in boxing history after tyson who bit the ear of holyfield. of course, the friends of fraud jr, i mean floyd will be the one guarding the blood of pacman. the question can i trust the fraud jr, i mean floyd jr to the prosecutor, the judge and the jury. come on. floyd is not bigger than the nevada boxing commission. the nevada boxing commission is bigger than fraud jr, i mean floyd jr. fraud jr, i mean flord jr is insulting the nevada boxing, the healthcare professional and many people like me. hey fraud jr, i mean floyd jr if you figth other pacman people are not going to watch you. you already deceived marquez in the weigh in and during the fight when you refused to be weighed in.
Can everyone be honest for a second? If this fight was between Manny and anyone else would all this drama have happened? Any other fighter would jump at the chance to fight Pacman.
To all those misinformed that are still insisting, Manny is not scared of needles, he just doesn’t want to weaken himself by letting blood too close to the fight. He agreed to the blood test 30 days before the fight and immediately after the fight. The tatoos and needle argument is another ploy being thrown around by Mayweather camp to confuse the public and make it appear that Pacquiao is hiding something and is on the juice.
It’s amazing how many people are still easily duped by the Mayweathers.
Before the DLH vs PAC fight, Sr. went on the record that he believes DLH will KO Pac no matter if DLH is past his prime or that their match is at 147. Yet, immediately after the Pac made DLH quit in 8, Senior made the proclamation that DLH was dehdyrated and that’s the reason he lost to pac. Then a lot of people even respectable ones bought into the dehydrated theory.
When senior became Hatton’s trainer and vowed that Hatton will KO Pacquiao even saying Hatton is a race horse and Pacquiao is a mule. After Pac demolished Hatton in 2 rounds, Senior is nowhere to be found. He just left his battered ward on his own. He then just proclaimed that Hatton was stupid and would’nt listen to him that’s why he lost. A lot of people bought that HAtton is just stupid theory.
When Pac beat Cotto in dominating fashion, guess what? senior is out there again proclaiming that Pacquiao is on steriods that’s why he won. It looks like there’s a lot of people whos going to buy into this theory too.
too many dumb people in the world.
Mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs. So how is Manny’s weight climb so difficult to grasp???? In a word… EXCUSES.
When did the boxing rules change? They are boxing, right? Last time I checked they weren’t fighting for a gold medal. So what is this BS all about??? I know what it is… His first L… Make no mistake, if Mayweather was as confident as he talks he would put his money where his mouth is and just box. But he’s not, so what does that really tell you? It tells you what everyone including him and his entourage know. He will get his butt whipped. Honestly, anyone would do the same thing when they are scared. So, you can’t really blame “pretty boy”.
Listen boxing fans, let floyd play his games. There is no one else for him to fight and the ppl respect the fight. He has to fight manny or go down as boxing biggest coward. Floyd I hope you read this, earn some real respect and fight a real fighter, every one looses now it’s you turn.lol
Khan better than Mayweather?!
What a mug you are, Rob.
Floyd wanted 154lbs – Agreed to 147
Floyd wanted heavier gloves – Agreed to Paquaio’s pick
Floyd said March – Paquaio agreed
Floyd’s promoter didn’t want Dallas as all of the big fights are either in Vegas or MSG.
Floyd wants random blood tests to test for HGH – Paquaio claims to be afraid of needles even though he has lots of tattoo’s.
floyd is the most demanding boxer of all time. he got to be awarded of the cry baby of the decade. he got to be awarded of the great pretender. he got to be given an award of the boxer that avoided great fighters. if there is a boxer that got overpaid – floyd is. he is not a fighter – he is just a coward and cherry picking. hey floyd, boxing don’t need you. there are many that are better than you – mosley, cotto, margarito, valero, khan, bradley, donaire, raging bull, pavlik and many more – if i were you stay retard – i mean retire again for the good of boxing sports.
Travis Tygart, CEO of the USADA. He testified before Congress that anyone who says HGH can be detected by a urine test is mistaken. It can only be detected by a blood test.”
Paying 10 million per pound overweight isn’t part of the commission rules either? why people insist on making excuses for pacquiao is beyond me. Pac’s proposal won’t do because 30 days is more than enough time for him to juice up and hide the evidence before the next test comes up while still retaining the drug’s effects at fight night, usually for HGH traces in the blood can only be detected in the blood 24 to 48 hours after use besides the beauty is that it is random so the athlete does not know when he will be tested so he cannot prepare in advance
well said jones
But you’ve gotta understand, there is no legal obligation within Boxing to make him take any blood test. Urine tests will show up ANYTHING that a blood test would too… So whats the point in getting blood taken? I dont like needles either and I have tattoos, so all this tattoo talk and blood talk is nonsense, he doesnt like them, neither do I… I didnt have any blood drawn when getting any of my tattoos… Its psychological too… Mayweather is trying to put manny on edge, its all mind games… He is trying to get into mannys head and make him doubt himself, his ability and his power. Floyd is scared of Manny, he has dodged him for a while… This fight will happen, and manny will knock him out and I for one will be extremely pleased to see mayweathers smile wiped off his face! He is the Michael Schumacher of boxing…. Good at what they do, but everyone hates him.
for a start we all know he would absolutly destroy mosley within 6 and as for margarito the guys a joke hes had one good victory which he cheated in why would he want to fight the lights on mosley? pointless bout and if u say he would get beat by mosley something is seriously wrong
I think Manny is taking steroids I mean look at the guy!! If I was Mayweather or even if you were Mayweather I’d want manny to undergo tests! You cant get in the ring with a chater and expect a fair fight! come on now you guys say respect the Nevada Commision well where the hell where they when Margarito cheated againsed Cotto! it took Mosleys FATHER to find the plater the Commison would have never found it! and we are talking about a visible substance! now if a visable substance goes un catched! how about sterids or human growth harmone??? lets face the facts! the winner of this fight will be the MEGA Cash Cow in boxing! they have to secure that our future MEGA CASH COW is LEGIT!!!!
floyd demands: pacman got to say it – pacman stated for the record he wants to fight. floyd demanded 147 lbs – pacman agreed. team pacman is considering texas, floyd said no – pacman agreed. floyd demanded march 13 not after the election in the philippines – pacman agreed. i believe pacman agreed to everything except the testing of floyd’s friends – men this floyd is really boxer. he can’t fight he is just an entertainer of the year in boxing. hey floyd, pacman don’t need you at all. go to england and fight matthew in which you prefer in the first place.
Agree with neukid. Statement by the NSAC is a must at this point in time. So many people are, or were now stooping the level of thinking of an excon rather than believing the statute of the US government standard institution, i.e., the Nevada State Athletic Commission who is the real and authority who have jurisdiction.
The mayweather camp is making the issue laughable and kinda insulting to US government agencies and the intelligence of educated people…
floyd wants his friends to do the testing – something fishy is going on or he wants a solid excuse not to fight pacman. pacman is willing to do the blood test during the announcement of fight, 30 days before the fight and the day after the fight so what’s wrong with that. the bottomline floyd and his company especially his uncle and dad who are law abiding citizens according to them can’t be trusted. i still predict that floyd is just playing mind games. he needs pacman more than pacman needs him. floyd avoided margarito, cotto and mosley in the past why be surprised eventhough there was big money involved.
Is Mayweather the commissioner of boxing? WHo is he to demand test like that? Pacquiao is just not going to tolerate being harrassed by this Mayflower,ooppps . Mayweather I mean. PAcquiao agreed to be tested after the fight, 5 days before the fight and 30 days before the fight. If he is on any drugs, you could see it after the fight. Mayweather don’t understand the meaning of self-respect and having high self-esteem obviously. Pacquiao is saying no to his demands because he is not going to let some coward dictate him . We know Mayweather is going to be scared if the fight is off, the IRS is after him!!!
If anything, Pacquiao’s reputation is on the line, not Mayweather’s. It’s already known Olympic style drug testing is the most effective and if Manny doesn’t want to comply with this, it seems pretty suspect on his part. Not even a Mayweather hater can deny this.
why should mayweather half the pot hes unbeaten been in the sport longer , the fight will go ahead it cant not now because there is no other fight for these two fighters , they are the best p4p fighters on the planet FACT
IDIOTAS … Pacman agreed to blood testing 30 days before and after the fight. If anyone of you have some medical knowledge, they will be able to find what they want to find. IDIOTAS !!! Cowardice on the part of Mayweather Camp. Simply dodging the killer punch of PACMAN.
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Manny Paquiao is the best and the cleanest boxer I’ve seen in the boxing history. Mayweather is just trying to get into Manny’s skin. Well people, you know how what Mayweather Dad did to Hatton after the fight…lol….have mercy on Hatton!
I think Manny should hold his ground this is just the beginning of Mayweathers requests. It should be the same as for any other fight, not exceptional for Mayweather.
floyd is just afraid from the very beginning. one of these days I won’t be surprised if team pacquiao take this floyd sr. and malinaggi to court. floyd as always playing mind games and got to be his wishes or he won’t fight. the media is riding with him when in fact he is the bad guy. those pacman haters up to now is still not waking up – hey it’s almost new year – get a life.
Wow, another Mayweather ducking strategy!
This fiasco is what is wrong with boxing these days. There is no regulatory body that speaks out for everybody. Everybody speaks for everybody and different sanctioning bodies have their own rules. It is a small picture of a bigger problem. This fiasco has to take place for the boxing world to clean up its image. This the silver lining to this if there is ever one.
If mayweather wants blood , is he willing to part with the pot money to entice Manny pacman? Say give 5 million to Pacman to sweeten the deal?
mayweather is a coward yet pacman wont take a blood test, come on think about it
Mayweather is a COWARD. He never runs out of excuses to dodge the best fighters.
The only thing that damages boxing is cheats and one of them is being exposed right now.
either way like some articles have said , he has loads of tattoo’s? so i mean come on , and it doesnt weaken you what so ever , miguel cotto used to get tattoo’s even sometimes 48hrs before a fight and at one time (apart from mayweather) he was probly the best fighter on the planet , pac-man needs to get a GRIP take a blood test which is nothing get over it and then get his own ass owned by the greatest fighter on the planet
I think what we need right now is an official statement from some US government sports regulatory commission in this case the Nevada State Athletics Commission to issue a statement about blood testing in professional boxing. The boxing fans deserve this to erase any doubt about their competence in doing their job.