The Manny Pacquiao Wars: Attack of the Monday Morning Quarterbacks
By Steve Lewis: After Manny Pacquiao’s dominant performance against top welterweight, Miguel Cotto, to capture a championship in a record-breaking 7th weight class, numerous Pacquiao skeptics became “converts.” Or at least, they were willing to finally give some due credit. Of course, you will never win them all completely because there will always be the few individuals who will, after the fact, give excuses and justifications as to why Pacquiao’s accomplishments need to be tempered down.
Now some Monday Morning Quarterbacks have agendas, and thus are typically in denial. Others are just plain contrarians, doing so for the sake of being contrarians, whose sole purpose is to attain notoriety by making outlandish remarks and wanting to merely see a reaction from the Pacquiao fan base.
Prior to the Pacquiao-Lehlo Ledwaba title match, Pacquiao’s first fight in the U.S., no one gave Pacquiao a chance. Even the Las Vegas casinos did not bother taking wagers for this fight. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Pacquiao was a last minute replacement and Ledwaba had been preparing for a different kind of fighter.
The same argument can be made for Pacquiao: he was a last minute replacement and was not training specifically for Ledwaba either. He probably wasn’t training much at all. Yet, he won.
Prior to Pacquiao-Barrera I, Barrera was the heavy favorite, still ranked among the top pound-for-pound. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Barrera was already old, had battled Erik Morales, distractions in camp, had a metal plate in his head (years prior to the fight!), etc.
Apparently, all those excuses did not prevent people from favoring Pacquiao before the fight. Again, hindsight is 20/20. Barrera evidently was not too old to still remain in the pound-for-pound rankings, evidently still had enough in the gas tank to subsequently win against the likes of Paulie Ayala, Erik Morales (again), Robbie Peden, and Rocky Juarez. But apparently, he was already too old for Pacquiao, a justification after the fact.
Against Erik Morales, the critics marveled at how Morales “schooled” Pacquiao in their first encounter (though on most scorecards, Morales won by 2 points, but it was apparently a schooling). Hail the Pacquiao conqueror! Yet a mere 10 months later, less than a year, Morales would apparently go from Pacquiao conqueror to Grandma Moses. Results: KO wins for Pacquiao in the rematch and rubber match. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Morales was already old, washed-up, wars with Barrera, loss to Zahir Raheem.
Again, how does one go from being a 130-lb hotshot/Pacquiao conqueror to Grandma Moses in a span of 10 months? And it’s not like Raheem “softened” Morales up for the rematch with Pacquiao. Raheem is a finesse fighter. He did not do serious damage to Morales. Rather, Morales took Raheem lightly and was caught looking ahead to the Pacquiao rematch, a thing that sometimes happens even to the best sports teams when facing a relative cream puff (i.e., Lakers losing to Hornets, USC losing to a Stanford or an Oregon State). Morales, they would say, was already washed up when he first fought Pacquiao. So what was the difference between the Morales in the 1st fight, and the Morales of the 2nd & 3rd fights? Some will say that Pacquiao got to use the gloves he wanted (coincidence?), but it seems apparent that Pacquiao learned from the 1st fight and showed who was superior. Critics constantly treat Pacquiao as if he had not improved or transformed to a better fighter, but he has.
Against Juan Manuel Marquez, many would say Pacquiao lost those battles. The subjective scoring of judges can be a topic for another day, but the one objective thing that most Pacquiao critics fail to address is the admittedly erroneous scoring of judge Burt Clements in the 1st fight, who said he did not know that a 10-6 score could be awarded to a fighter who scores 3 knockdowns! Had he done so, like the two other judges did, Pacquiao would have won by majority decision. And Marquez should be thankful that the 3-Knockdown Rule was not in effect. Otherwise, the record would have shown a 1st Round TKO, and this discussion about his comeback in the later rounds would be moot.
The Pacquiao-Marquez fights were close fights. Arguments can be made for both sides. The critics and the Monday Morning Quarterbacks will go ahead and treat these fights like it was a Joel Casamayor-Jose Santa Cruz robbery! It was not! They were close fights that could have gone either way. But ultimately, one who gets knocked down 4 times in a closely contested fight should not later complain about losing a close one.
Against Oscar De La Hoya, the critics called it a farce, a circus, a total mismatch! Oscar was favored to win, the size advantage too great. These were their conventional wisdom’s before the fight. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Oscar was drained, he’s a shell of his former self, too dehydrated, etc. That apparently wasn’t foreseen before the fight! Once again, it’s after the fact. If Oscar improperly trained himself and overdid it, that’s Oscar’s fault, not Pacquiao’s.
I am not sure why the critics also get on Pacquiao’s case about this catch-weight against Oscar. Pacquiao was essentially a super featherweight (nevermind the pit stop at lightweight against David Diaz) going against a former middleweight titlist. Did people really expect Pacquiao to go 4-5 weight classes up to meet Oscar? That would be stupid. Oscar wanted the match, so they had to meet halfway at welterweight. And Pacquiao schooled” him. As I may have stated before, a former middleweight champ, only a year removed from hanging with then boxing’s best, Floyd Mayweather, has no business losing like that to a super featherweight. I can try to drop 15 pounds, but does that mean I should be losing to my 9-year old nephew in a session of fisticuffs? I better not!
Against Ricky Hatton, many people were saying how Hatton is not weight drained and will be able to use his physical advantages against Pacquiao. We were supposed to get a bona fide rough-houser in Hatton. Result: KO win for Pacquiao. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Hatton was an overrated, glorified club fighter who just walks in face first. Again, many of these Monday Morning Quarterbacks say this after the fact. Prior to the fight, Hatton was considered a top 10 pound-for-pounder, the king and undefeated lineal champ at 140 lbs. Yet overnight, he goes from 140 lb king to overrated club fighter…a club fighter who apparently couldn’t be put away by the likes of boxing veterans Kostya Tszyu, Luis Collazo, Juan Luis Castillo, Juan Lazcano, and Paulie Malignaggi.
And finally, against Miguel Cotto, despite Vegas favoring Pacquiao, many were saying how Pacquiao has never felt the power of a true welterweight, that Pacquiao may have bitten off more than he can chew. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Cotto was damaged goods, thanks to Antonio Margarito, cutting down to 145 lbs took its toll (though he has made 146 just fine in previous fights), and the one that is an obvious stab in the dark: Pacquiao must be on steroids!
Cotto looked fine, did not look drained. In fact, he was doing a great job in the first couple of rounds. Cotto getting dropped by the 3rd and 4th rounds were unexpected by most. If the Margarito beatdown theory were to hold, it would be seen in the later rounds, not the early parts. And allegations of steroid use is pure grasping for straws. It would be one thing if it were feather-fisted fighters like Malignaggi who all of a sudden develop power in their punches. But Pacquiao always had “pop” in his punches, dating back to the lower weight classes, where Pacquiao scored knockout wins within 5 rounds or less in 15 of his first 25+ fights. He would also go on to floor Juan Manuel Marquez 3 times in one round, lift Fahsan 3K Battery off both feet with an uppercut, floored the triumvirate of Marquez, Morales and Barrera a total of around 11 times, not including several other close calls where they were saved by the bell or held up by the ropes. So it’s not like Pacquiao’s power came out of nowhere.
In sum, Pacquiao is a great fighter, one we may never see again in the years to come. And we can always berate him before a fight, but when he disproves us, let’s give credit where credit is due, rather than going back in time and having the benefit of hindsight to nitpick after the fact. But again, can’t win them all. But conversely, the majority could care less about the fussiness of a few.
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this is a cool news. Thank you.
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The Best Pacquiao Article of 2009.
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Or probably tied with Oliver Suarez…
A pithy comment about this article. Well researched,well written analytical composition.Atta Boy, Steve!
Keep up the good work.
Now just make sure Pacquiao gets hold of this article.
Well written article, Steve! Great analysis from a writer on boxing who really KNOWS boxing. (Some profess themselves to be boxing experts and became fools like Liam Santiago.) You have knocked out the Monday Morning Quarterbacks in this site as well as the other boxing sites. Thank you.
Excellent article. I’m a Miguel Cotto fan and I must tell you L.Santiago and M. Perez can’t polish your shoes, Mr Lewis. These two clowns are tabloid and gossip writers who have that monday morning quarterback mentality. They spew one sided view with flimsy justifications. Heck they can’t even keep their word. No palabra de honor. I just read their articles sometimes if I needed a hearty laugh about their convoluted theories.
im from the down under australia!!.. yeh mate this tops it all!! welldone.. cheers
to all PAC-HATERS, excuses excuses, excuses! the PAC is the greatest boxer in this era..and already an ATG!
thats what you expect once a persona on a well developed country are “schooled” by those from third world ones…..
Thats very Rampant here in AMerica.
No wonder why America is Falling to every aspect that pertains to knowledge, skills, and humility by any third world country achievers…
well said . I’ve heard story like this on the Bible. they don’t stop criticize on one mans greatness until they put him on cross.
“IM not saying that pacman is Jesus.just the story almost similar”
I’m so proud of you Steve! You amaze me with your wit!
Excellent article. Manny fights like a true warrior who never fights dirty,looks after his fallen opponents to check if they’re okay,never trash-talks and prays hard before every fight. The little man should get the credit that he deserves. This guy is the savior of boxing.
A very intelligent and analytical writing, pointing out the pre-fight pundits’ predictions and the post fight excuses of the same pundits. The difference is that some experts admit to their wrong predictions while others do not. The latter think that making excuses can save their faces which is
predominantly a western philosophy contratry to admitting your mistakes which is consistent with eastern philosophy of inner strenght. It takes a real man to admit to his own mistakes and miscalculations. It is already obvious, why deny the truth. You are only making a fool of yourself. Arrogance.
you should be in television, major newspapers, major magazines,and every websites local and international. you know how to write, analyze and express ideas of all article i have read in my lifetime. more power, kudos, awards and laurels to you and your family, congratulations.
mr. lewis..you’re a diamond among the rocks and stones on this site…how about schooling the likes of perez and santiago on the art writing?…thank you for a superb article…
Steve, you have the talent of a great sports writer. Keep pointing the facts and will speak for itself.
KUDOS! This is a REAL Article!
A big HUG for you mr. Lewis! You make my day, yeah!!
i hope liam santiago and manuel perez is reading this. liam is the king of crap and manuel is her queen
more power to you.
You know the best satisfaction for a Pacman fan is proving his critics wrong. And by demolishing his opponents, he continue to befuddle his detractors. This only shows how great a boxer Pacman is. And scribes like Liam & Manuel will always go against Pacman in every fight because it is their destiny to be on the wrong side of boxing history. I wonder how their relatives feel about having a constant loser for a kin.
I just hope this author is not Liam or Manuel who cooked up a new pen name to see how the feedback will be for a por-Pacman article.
The truth will prevail in the end…excellent article Mr. Lewis.
Reality check there is good and bad in everything. This one is good the others like liam santiago and manuel perez are on the other side.
Nice article.Something good was written at last.
I loled at this article. When I read this article, I was like… “hahaha In your face Manny Haters” xD
wow, you must hated us (liam santiago and manny perez) combine ha ha ha ha. nice guy
Very objective and well written analysis. You really did your homework first before writing. So far the best article I’ve read which is worth my precious time.
A handful of so called “boxing experts” can only remember Juan Manuel Marquez when analyzing Manny Pacquiao’s skill and achievements.
This article is so true. I’m not so sure about some writers who writes ridiculous predictions on how Manny will get beat up, then making excuses the next day for the beaten boxer. I personally find it really funny, although they get in the heads of Manny’s fans. These amateur writers are one thing, but the case of Floyd Sr. and Paul L is another. These 2 morons are envious of Manny’s success. Paul will never even come close to Manny. And Sr., that bozo can’t get over his lost to Roach on the Hatton fight.
Great informative article… People should give credit where credit is due. Cotto did that and earned respect from all of us. Now I am a fan of Cotto as well. People should stop reading Liams and Manuels articles as they are clearly just taking advantage of people who view their comments as unfair and want to set things straight. Liam and Manuel knows this and is using this as a way to earn extra bucks..
Finally, justice!
Bravo!
Best article I’ve read on this site. Thanks for sticking to the facts. Well done.
If only Liam and Ramon can get about 1% of your analytical and unbiased brain, that’s more than enough for them to be called “homo sapiens”…. but for now they are just homos.
VERY TRUTHFUL AND FACTUAL ARTICLE!! KUDOS TO SIR! YOU ARE AN EXPERT AND A GENTLEMAN
Nice article, anyway I don’t care how would they described Pacman either bad or good, One thing for sure, I won tons of money…..because of Pacman…
The readers are giving you praise and kudos for a well versed and serious article and all of us are asking, “Man, what are you doing here?”
@dea-
Yep, copy it, use it like the cross to ward away demons.
I have to admit, I copied this post. great job
nice article, very precise. let’s give credit to the talent, skills and bravery of Pacquiao. natural gifts unjustifiably being accused by wrongdoing and trying to destroy by some who cannot face and admit other’s talent and skills. those are the envious and jealous writers and boxing fans, as proved by Manny’s triumps and victorious are all just Pacman Haters!
Excellent, excellent article Sir.
Send a copy of this article to Liam and Mauela.
great article..well said.
Good article. The thing that I always find interesting about the catchwieght arguments is that both fighters agreed to them beforehand. If they didn’t think they could handle it, then why agree to it?
yeah, Roach has not done any favors for Pac’s legacy by downplaying his opponents. I do find it interesting that when asked about Mosley, Roach said he wouldn’t want to fight him at 147 because “Mosley is better than Oscar”. I understand with boxing that you want to do what you can to increase your fighters chance in winning but one cannot say Pac will take on all comers but not fight a guy at his optimal weight as to not give into his advantages…that is not playing on an even field.
I completely agree with this writer. I just wish that Freddie Roach himself would stop saying what the “Monday Morning Quarterbacks” are saying. Everytime I see Freddie Roach get asked about Pacquiao’s opponent prior to or after a fight, he says: “Oscar Dela Hoya can no longer pull the trigger”, “Ricky Hatton is not that good of a fighter, no defense”, “It doesn’t matter if Margarito did it in that fight or not, a fighter is still not the same following a knockout like that,” Roach said about Cotto. I know Freddie means well, but he should just talk about Pacquiao’s talents. But then again, this is Freddie’s way of getting into the opponents’ heads. After the Cotto fight, Pacquiao declined to compare himself to other boxing greats, but Roach did not hesitate, labeling Pacquiao “the greatest fighter of his era, for sure, 100 percent.” Now, that’s what I like to hear.
Steve, you are a genius! I would not be surprised if Pacquiao himself keeps this ingenious article in his permanent collections. After reading this article I experienced a tremendous release of pent up frustration- a catharsis! You succeed in identifying the bugs and call them out. They then simply vanish. This article is by far the best ever I’ve read regarding setting the records straight for prosterity with regards to Pacquiao’s accomplishments. Thank you for writing it.
let’s not forget that Oscar fought Steve Forbes at 150 before the pac fight because he was suppose to fight a rematch with Floyd, until Floyd backed out after the Oscar/Forbes fight. So Oscar only had to come down 3lbs from his last fight where Pac had to come up 12lbs
Very nice article. I must admit I did not see Hatton, DLH or Cotto beating Pac however I still do not think he will beat Floyd.
AMEN!!! to that. Right to the point. I couldn’t said it more.
Boxingnews24 is not anti PACMAN after all. Well I have a change of heart. I will still visit this forum becaise of this writer. More power to you and keep up the honest good work. Boxing needs you more than you need to write about it.
I read another article today that was written by Liam Santiago on this site. F’n liar. He said he wouldn’t write anymore. Also he wrote about what birdfeather Sr. saying crap again. I think Birdfeather Sr. IS Liam Santiago
well written! you echo a lot of the thoughts i’ve had concerning pacquiao critics. in the end, it only underscores just how good pacquiao is – he basically makes some boxers look shopworn. and people actually accuse him of steroids..he should take that as a compliment. keep it up!
Finally a regular writer on this site. Just laying down Facts! Anti Manuel Perez and Liam Santiago
Great Article!! Only thing is hopefully those same critics won’t learn their lesson as there won’t be enough money to be made next time.
Hope they say Mayweather will win vs Pacquaio…
Need to cash in again…lol
MORE POWER TO YOU STEVE. A VERY ENLIGHTENING ARTICLE.
I’m korean and I’m the greatest fan of Pacquiao!
A well written article which states things how exactly they are. Well done.
While biased articles serve their purpose in terms of fuelling hype, they also get tiresome to read, especially when lame excuse after lame excuse are conjured up in order to preserve some sort of credibility upon the writer.
My God! You’re good.
Obviously this writer knows about boxers and boxing. I won’t be surprised if he was formerly a Pacquiao hater turned believer. I do believe that the extra strenght Pacquiao is getting comes from our God Almighty. His name alone “Manny” or Emmanuel means God is with him. And we can see how he loves God and put Him first before anything. Manny is conqueror, overcomer and victorious. He will always be as long as he doesn’t stop praising and believeing in Jesus.
Well, Kudos to Mr writer for a great welldone job.
Excellent article:) I’m glad their is an unbiased writer within Boxingnews24.com:)
Very good article, exhaustively disecting the Pacquiao saga.
Wow…you really broke it down for us…..nicely done
Bravo! The most legitimate, unbiased and great article I have ever read fro Boxingnews24. Hey Steve, I really hope your colleagues Manuel Perez and Liam Santiago learn from you. They are perfect specimens of Monday Morning Quarterback blabber mouths who shouldn’t even be writing about boxing.
steve, nice article, job well done. you know what, i called those pacquiao’s critics crybabies and losers who were jealous of pac’s accomplishments. because of this writings, steve scared the hell out of mayweathers.
well written article. i’m glad this site actually has somebody who can write. not like liam and manuela – who will never win writer of the year; who make all the excuses after excuses after a guaranteed pacquiao loss; who fail to give credit to a great boxer; who wished a boxer harm during his bouts for stupid reasons. good job mr. lewis.
well written steve lewis, all i can say is, for those people who makes excuses are Damn Losers…
That’s why I love the naysayers and the Monday Morning QBs..they all make me money.
Keep it up!
Excellent unbiased article….nice job!
Steve Lewis, congratulations for a very well written article.