Mayweather-Pacquiao: Will Manny take the fight?
November 17th, 2009
By Dave Lahr: Unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. has made it known that he’s interested in facing newly crowned World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao next. However, the big question is does Pacquiao want to fight Mayweather.
The wins were fine, but let’s not get confused about who Pacquiao was facing. Hatton and De La Hoya appeared to have lost a few steps and Cotto didn’t look to be the same fighter after his loss last year against Antonio Margarito. Pacquiao, if he were out to prove something, should have taken on Shane Mosley, who was considered by many to be the best welterweight in the division aside from Mayweather.
Cotto, on the other hand, had been through two fights against Margarito and Joshua Clottey in the past year. Those fights seemed to have taken a lot out of Cotto. In the case of Mayweather, he hasn’t been beaten and he didn’t just come out of a war in his last fight like Cotto did going into his bout with Pacquiao. This is why you have to wonder whether Pacquiao will take the fight with Mayweather.
It would be a fight that Pacquiao might favored in by some boxing experts, but you might be wise to ignore them because none of Pacquiao’s last opponents have been anywhere near Mayweather in fighting style. Cotto, Hatton and De La Hoya were pretty much stationary fighters who stood directly in front of Pacquiao. Cotto did start using movement beginning in the 6th round against Pacquiao.
However, by then, Cotto had already taken an enormous amount of punishment and was moving more just to survive rather than to win the fight. Mayweather would be a whole different story. He would be moving the entire fight and would be countering Pacquiao at every turn. Pacquiao fought very aggressively against Cotto last Saturday night and left himself open again and again throughout the bout as he chased Cotto around the ring.
Pacquiao took a lot of hard shots in the fight, and was hit flush more often than people realize. Mayweather would have a field day against Pacquiao if he fought the same way he did against Cotto. Pacquiao wouldn’t be able to beat Mayweather simply by increasing the pace of the bout and trying to take the fight to him. If anything, that will cause Pacquiao to be stripped apart by the accurate punching from Mayweather.
In his last fight, Mayweather made it look ridiculously easy in beating Juan Manuel Marquez by a 12 round decision. You could expect that Mayweather would do the same thing to Pacquiao unless Roach had some unheard of strategy to use for the fight. Mayweather doesn’t have any weak points to exploit like Hatton, De La Hoya and Cotto.
Roach wouldn’t have as many options available to him for this fight like he would against other beatable opponents that Pacquiao has been matched against. This is why perhaps I see Pacquiao not taking the fight with Mayweather. It would be a bad match-up for Pacquiao and he would have little chance of winning the fight.
Another reason why the fight won’t take place is because one of these two fighters would have to give in and take less. I don’t see Pacquiao or Mayweather doing that, and I doubt either would be happy fighting for a 50-50 purse split. Mayweather sees himself as being the pay-per-view attraction for this fight, and Pacquiao will likely feel the same way.
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I do not see any of the fighter’s turning down fights with pacquiao due to catchweight issues. The fact is that cotto, de la hoya, hatton, diaz etc. were not forced to fight pacquiao. All said fighters have had plenty of time to make the appropriate weight adjustments prior to their bouts. Roach is a great trainer who knows how to pick fights for his fighter. It’s a business and a tough business at that. You normally don’t hear the fighter’s complain about the catchweights issues because they are willing subjects. There are so many things that can go wrong before a fight. A fighter can have an injury, a cold, a recent death or similiar that may affect emotional well being and this goes for any sport. So stop making excuses.One of my favorite fighters of all time is a muay thai fighter named ramon dekkers. he never refused a fight, even when his opponent had more experience or was bigger. ramon would fight anyone, any time, even when he had injuries. and guess what ladies – he never made excuses.
DAVE LAHR, ARE YOU RETARDED OR JUST PLAIN STUPID? YOU ARTICLE IS ONE OF MOST IDIOTIC I’VE READ ALONG WITH LIAM SANTIGAO, AND MANUEL “CRACKHEAD ” PEREZ. GET A REAL JOB, OR MAYBE BE THE RUNNER FOR THE MAYWEATHER DRUG DEALING COMPANY, CAUSE YOU KISS HIS A** TOO MUCH!
the truth hurts. So much hurt that it bruised the ego of the author causing him to become delusional and maybe schizophrenic!!
foreman,
You’ve got to give it up, man. You act as if there is some great conspiracy.
Face it, Manny has won his last 4 big fights because he was clearly the better man on those nights.
You act as if the tale of the tape you bring up as some great kind of discovery. That’s public info my friend. You act as if you’ve discovered the keys to the kingdom with numbers which are available to anyone who is interested.
When a fight gets made. All sorts of agreements are made. Weight being one of them.
It takes two to tango.
These are professional athletes and they have a team to help them. They agree to terms because they believe that they will still prevail given whatever terms they have agreed to. Being weight drained, dehydrated, or whatever is no excuse. You’ve had 8-12 weeks to train and strategize.
to all pacman haters and non believers including this stupid writer who is hiding under the banner of journalism, get help and take you pscyh meds to bring you back to reality. cotto can beat floyd. margarito can beat floyd. mosley versus might be 50-50 but with pacman if he runs he can win by points but he if stands toe to toe it will be the easiest fight for pacman. i’ll give him one round. that’s fair analysis right – what do you think biased elementary writer. my dog can see better than you.
Pacquiao vs Cotto
Reach =67” Reach =67” /23 ‘ ½”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’8”
Weight =144 Weight =145
Tonight weight =? Tonight weight =?
Weight Diff =? Weight Diff =?
I do not have the weight the night they fight.
Pacquiao vs Oscar De Lahoya
Reach =25” Reach =26”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’10.5”
Weight =142 Weight =145
Tonight weight=148.5 Tonight weight=147
Weight Diff =6.5 Weight Diff =2
Pacman put more weight than De la Hoya, De La Hoya is dehaydrated
140 Super Lightweight/ Jr. Welterweight
Pacquiao vs Hatton
Reach =25”/67 Reach =24”65
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’7”
Weight =138 Weight =140
Tonight weight =? Tonight weight =?
Weight Diff =? Weight Diff =?
Pacman has reach advantage, weight advantage unknown not posted
Hotton Loose 7lbs more to suited Pacman
130 lbs Super Featherweight
Pacquiao vs Marquez
Arm length =25” Arm length =24”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’7”
Weight =129 Weight =130
Tonight weight=145 Tonight weight =141
Weight Diff =16 Weight Diff =11
Pacman has reach advantage, more heavier than Morales
135 Light Weight
Pacquiao vs Diaz
Reach =25” Reach =23.5”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’6”
Weight =134.5 Weight =135
Tonight weight =147 Tonight weight =148
Weight Diff =12.5 Weight Diff =13
Pacman has reach advantage, height advantage, Weight almost even.
One of my amazing discovery about weight advantage is Pacquiao vs Morales:
Pacman vs Morales Part I
Weight ————– 130 129 1/2
Tonight weight—- 139 140
Pacman loss and his excuse Morales let him wear the glove that’s not fit him
Pacman vs Morales Part II
Weight ————– 128 1/2 130
Tonight weight—- 140 140
Pacman stop Morales in 10 Rds.
Pacman vs Morales Part III
Weight ————– 129 129
Tonight weight—- 144 139
Pacman stop Morales in the 3rd rd
Pacquiao vs Barera
Arm length =25” Arm length = 24 1/2”
Height =5’6 ½” height = 5’6”
Weight =130 Weight =130
Tonight weight =144 Tonight weight =138
Weight Diff =14 Weight Diff =8
Pacman has a weight advantage, reach advantage , height advantage
Pacquiao vs Morales II
Arm length =25” Arm length =24 ”
Height =5’6 ½” height = 5’8”
Weight =128 Weight =130
Tonight weight =140 Tonight weight =140
Weight Diff =12 Weight Diff =10
Pacman has reach advantage, put more weight
I don’t hate Pacquiao or Roach but I don’t considered him as a great boxer, because every time he fight, always all in favor on he’s side with the approval of the people behind the close curtain
In Roach statement that Cotto have problem of losing weight. First Cotto was defeated by Margarito who has a bricks in his globe, then he fall in Roach trick. Miguel Cotto accepted a catch weight of 145lbs in favor of Pacquio because he want to prove to the boxing world that he could win the fight to a person who gain weight and power, while he is losing and draining, that’s lead him to his most painful defeat in his entire career, But even with his condition Cotto give Pacquiao a good beating, that’s indication that, in his real natural weight Pacquiao will suffer the most worse defeat in his entire career. When Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard fought theirs no catch weight.
Welterweight limit are 147lbs and up, now Pacquiao win one of the belt in welterweight in 145lbs catch weight, should the commission will change the weight of welterweight just to accommodate the goose that lay the golden egg in favor of Roach and Pacquiao
After winning the belt to Diaz Pacquiao became a mega buck to the media, magazine and etc…. Oscar DeLa Hoya see all of this opportunity, so Dela Hoya made the most interesting match in his carier to challenge Pacquiao that will make a megabuck, but certainly on Pacquiao advantage, and the next is Hatton in Pacquiao advantage also to be sure, the goose that lay a golden egg will keep on producing a golden egg. The last of this victim is Cotto as we all observe. Do you believe that a man who could knock a big guy, could not even shake a small guy even an inch and in the nine round doesn’t know were he is. All of this certainly will not happened without the help of the big guy who really play an important role on this game.
I don’t believe Superman or Vampire exist, one thing I do believe, things happened and things that you saw and things that was done behind a close door. There’s so many comment but has no courage to investigate what’s behind to all of it. In my observation and base on the data and collection of medical findings, that when you lose weight in a short period of time, the person is weak and no stamina. In Pacquiao case every time he fight, he out-weight he’s opponent, he experience it himself when he was drained, he lose to a Thailander by way of quiting long time ago I see that fight myself in 1995, I was in the Philippines that time
The only thing i see right now is that either pacquiao or mayweather are nothing but crap.
mayweather who picks guys that he can beat because of his style…..and pacquiao who always wants his opponents at a catchweight…..both of thema should fight williams…..and shane is just an old steriod user.and thats a fact
They should change the name of this website to PACHATERS.COM. This is just great. Another writer related to Perez and Santiago. I don’t think these people will ever give any credit to the Pacman, even if he knocks Mayweather out. What will be the excuse then. That Floyd didn’t train hard because he was too upset in agreeing to a 50?50 split? Come on now guys. Diaz, Hatton and Cotto were all champions in their division. Doesn’t that mean anything? You’re a bunch of morons.
Ohh come on, you dont know whats you’re talking about…I think, better for you to keep quiet, no matter what, you’re just all spectators..you have no millions…so be sensible in writing a piece.
FIGHT SHANE MOSLEY
GREAT ARICLE WELL WRITTEN
Sir,
Pacquiao have been in a couple of wars himself. You make it sound like Pacquiao was fresh in all of his fights. That is not accurate. He had a war with Marquez before the De La Hoya fight. So it is no excuse that Cotto fought so and so because Pacquiao also fought so and so.
Pacquiao will beat Money Mayweather when they fight. This fight he won’t show mercy like he did with Cotto.
Thank you.
Cotto is a one armed fighter…a strong left handed warrior with an orthodox stance, but predicatble and one dimensional. He hardly posesses a right hand and rarely uses it. If he had even a decent amateur coach, then he would have been throwing a lead right hand (rather than a jab) through the middle of manny’s south paw gaurd, at the same time stepping out to the left (away from manny left hand) to generate power for a left hook over Manny’s south paw lead hand. Then pivot with the right leg and push off to safety. It’s basics, however, it wouldn’t have made a difference, Manny is a phenomenom.
When Cotto went into survival mode and danced and jabbed, he did have ‘moderate success’. Whether this was because Manny was stepping off the gas during this time we do not know. But if he wasn’t, and this is genuinally a tactic that works against him, then Mayweather must be drooling at the mouth. During that brief period he must of have been thinking…”if a one handed fighter can run, land with a jab and not get hit…then I Money Mayweather, the best int the business at that, am laughing all the way to the bank”
Theres no one better at maintaining their prefered fighting distance, evading and scoring with shots than him. He’ll run all night, refuse to trade, and win on points in a frustrating night for Manny.
I HOPE I AM PROVED WRONG.
some questions:
floyd better offensive fighter? no, we all know that.
floyd better defensive boxer? yes, we all know that.
floyd faster? against manny, we can’t say yet.
floyd is bigger, no doubt; will it play an important role? cotto was bigger, it did not. but floyd is not cotto, yes, so it’s fair to say maybe not, maybe yes. remains to be seen.
hence, each one has his own skills to bring to the ring. gameplan will play an important role. i give manny the advantage but if floyd runs, then will have a boring fight. floyd will never go toe to toe knowing manny can take his punch.
points win for anyone.
Pacquiao beats the fighter Mayweather has been ducking for years(Cotto.. you have to be specific because Mayweather has ducked so many opponents ) and its Pacquiao who has to prove something?
I hate excuses. If any fighter wants to make excuses (other than those qualified as criminal reasons – think plaster of paris)then he should not accept the fight. But boxing is a retarted sport. Don’t misunderstand me, I luv boxing but this is the only sport where the two best fighters may not fight due to a money issue. I mean when the Yankees can’t say we don’t want to play the Phillies – if they make it to the world series they have to play each other. Boxing is also a tuf business and you want to choose fights you think you can win and not lose…that would be stupid.
This is another writer with a lot of excuses,alibi’s,a lot of predictions that happened wrongly,a lot of analysis that never happened.you’re like Manuel Perish,liam liar Santiago,Scott Guityfoid,you don’t have credibility to write,you are just riding on the popularity of PACMAN and getting salary.Every body know that writing an article about Pacman every will read it.
Mr Lahr
Again you are to going to eat your words by saying
pacman has a little chance of winning against Pbf.
Haven’t you learn till now? Manny does his work in the ring and PBF ends up in heaps below.
Too many excuses!!!
“Pacquiao has beaten a Cotto who has been on the decline. Margarito and Clottey have both, taken much out of Cotto, both psychologically and physically. Manny was able to beat a badly dehydrated and weakened De la Hoya and a Hatton, who is an exciting fighter”. But what about pacquiao? compare him with cotto, cotto is younger and bigger than him, cotto only had 1 loss compare to pacquiao’s 3 losses do you think pacquiao is not washed up both psychologically and physically.
As far as docking fighters,.. They all do…
Even manny…. I’m Filipino American and live in the 702..
Unless your Filipino and have tfc or gma…
You would know,.. Schaeffer(don’t know the proper spelling)
his golden boys big boi.. And mosley was in the philipinnes
Asking for a fight… You think arum or roach call pacmans shot,..
Well they do, but a silent partner is that of chavit singson..
His the Filipino guy in his 50s that’s always a few feet away from the pacman… His the 4th most powerfull man in Philippine politics… He is who mosley n Richard pleaded for the fight…
The answer on their meeting wasn’t a no, but will fight in the near future… For all you other Filipino writters on here,. Why don’t you show fair and balance reporting.. You folks seen the interview with ted faillon on tfc or 24 oras on gma pinoy tv…
We all know what floyd is… N I just hope manny will proove to the other doubters what a great fight this will be… I love pacman not because I’m Filipino but because he is the essense of a true champion… Unlike what floyd had displayed….
FYI… Chavit is the right hand man to L. Tan, richest man in the world… Contrary to what others believe… Gates, sultan., Tan(singson) is now at the top… That’s what kind of clout he has,.. If my sources are right,.. The placed a 10 million dollar bet to a world champion new York Yankee ring side 45 minutes the fight.. I’m sure for all of us ringside,..that was the buzz, even larry merchant had a laught bout it,..
With all that said, .. I’ll take mr singsons words and hope for a mosley pacman fight in the near future.. Floyd fight is unlikely,.. I’m sure you all know that… For all of you who didn’t see the interviews of mosley in phils,.. I’ll look up the proper infos to get a hold of those films…
Congrats manny… N congratulation cotto for a valliant fight…
If Mayweather want to be the greatest boxer come on, get Manny Pacquiao
history will tell Pacman got seven title
Mayweather beat small Guy name Marques
antonio
Mayweather is a genius money opportunist. He should fight Mosley or Cotto first before fighting Manny to prove that he is a good fighter and deserve to be called a p4p because prior to his retirement he never fought these best guys in his division. Infact, he always eludes them. He never anawered yes to Mosley’s challenge.He must fight Mosley and win before challenging Manny. His fight against Marquez is not convincing win. How much more if he did not cheat on the agreed catch weight. It’s unfair for PACMAN to fight him and ask for a 50/50 split. It must be Mayweather vs. Mosley and winner deserve to challenge PACMAN.
The question of the day for you Dave is…how much did you lose for betting against the Pacman?
Pacquiao never ducked anyone…. maybe your talking about Mayweather….he already said he will fight anybody up to 147lbs…what is it there that you guys didn’t understand? All mayweather needs to do is to agree with the 50/50. And i believe that everybody would agree that that is just fair.
This was a GOOD article UNTIL he took the credit away from Pacman with all those “Cotto is not the same anymore.” This kind of excuses, along with “weightdrained,” “ghost of the past,” and “shot fighter” boils me to death. And this kind of commentary ALWAYS happen AFTER Pacman beat the crap out of them. They just don’t get it: PACMAN MADE THEM LOOK LIKE WEAK!
Manny knows he can’t beat Mayweather
Now, do you want to put your job on the line against Manny?
Since you are biased and one sided and thought that you knew the result before the fight, then you could be a millionare by betting against manny with your job on the line.
How much do you have man?
There are alot of comments foe pacman lovers on the article because you know he is right and do not want to believe him. He came in gave pacquiao his credit, gave his opinion plus facts to back up how he felt but it is a bad article. How much hate do you really have to have for Pretty Boy that you wouldn’t see this mans point. Keep telling yourself this about how good manny is and not about how bad you want mayweather to get beat. He sells because of you, yes you the people who pay to see him get beat. He played the good guy for the judah fight because people hated judah and the bad guy for his latest fights because he know what sells. If mayweather retired and the next pound for pound king people hated he would come on tv act like changed man and we would be love him. He doesn’t about anything but money, love him or hate him he knows he will sell. So all you so called Pacquaio fans aka Floyd haters leave you comments but I already know what you are going to say.
If you want CREDIBILITY on this website, FIRE OUT LIAM SANTIAGO!! If you want people to take your website seriously and not much like a tabloid, FIRE OUT LIAM SANTIAGO!! He is a rotten tomato that would spoil the good ones. If you writers would not want your good reputation to be spoiled by an ignorant writer FIRE OUT LIAM SANTIAGO!!
To Scotty:
We have the same thoughts. If Manny isn’t afraid to fight Cotto who is undeniably stronger than Mayweather, who in the right mind would think that Manny would be scared to fight Mayweather????
To the author and Mayweather Fans:
Let’s break it down to the most simple of things, if Hatton can land a punch on Mayweather, do you think Pacquiao won’t??? And Manny does land a punch, ask yourselves, if Hatton can hurt Mayweather a bit, what do you think Manny’s bring????
there are too many excuses to make when something unexpected happens. next time, if pacman beats mayweather just like what he did to the others, they are going to say he’s on steriods. floyd sr. made this up early so that they can have excuses to use whenever the need arises.
Pacman scared of Mayweather? Don’t make me laugh! PBF hasn’t got the punch power to make anyone afraid to fight him.
Funny how Mayweather “retired” yet the welterweight division had Paul Williams,Cotto,Marghito and Shane Mosley competing at the time. Go figure!
anyway, somehow we need opposition and non believer like you because it won’t be exciting to write and respond to your stupid statement that accdg to you pacman is kind of afraid to face your idol. bring it on – we can debate you in any place but at the end there is only one exciting pacman and one boring floyd.
by the way, the only one you can please and agree with your elementary analysis are those sore losers like you who put floyd as the best boxer of his generation. yeah tell it to mosley, clottey, margarito, cotto and paul williams. give me a break by your stupid section, at least write something 50-50 then both sides might appreciate you.
the author is totally floyd’s boy. what was your great prediction before Nov. 14? the author is totally floyd’s pet who can’t appreciate good boxing that was witnessed by millions. it shows that you can’t see great fighter in pacman. floyd was just cherry picking as seen by many but you can’t see it.
# wanderer Says:
November 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Manny shows mercy to those who remain humble at heart that is why he made hesitations in the Cotto fight and looked at the referee when Cotto had unofficially surrendered the fight. But For Mayweather, I doubt if he would.
Disagree, Pac stated he was trying to KO cotto but was weary of running into a big shot, he admitted he was hurt by Cottos left several times but he held it in so Cotto wouldnt notice, so his hesitation was respect for Cottos left counters, not mercy, same thing Clottey said when asked why he hesitated.
Cotto exposed Pac during the 1st half of the fight, he was slipping punches and countering beautifully, he was winning rd 1 to 5 and only loss 3 & 4 because of the knockdows, Roach and Pac were amazed and confused,but then,
Cotto showed how damaged he is, going down early, swelling abnormally, cutting easily and tiring after 6, so now hes just a 6 rd fighter that gets deformed, cuts, tires, and falls easily,
but Floyd can do what Cotto did early for 12 rds, it will be like Cottos 1st rd but X 12 rds, only faster, taller, stronger and harder to hit, so Pac showed the world he can be beat in those 5 rds.
The reason why marquez lost to Mayweather was that he’s a natural counter puncher who was forced to be the fight initiator or else the fight would be totally boring if 2 fighters wait for each other to box.
Marquez was made for Mayweather the same thing as Pacquaio was made for Marquez.
Pacquaio had a problem with Marquez because Marquez waits for the first punch to counter act. In this way, counter puncher usually has an edge. The defining factor why pacquaio won was those knockouts and you know how they score a knockout so blame Marquez for having a weak knee and chin for that.
Pacquiao and Mayweather is another interesting matchup. Relentless aggressor vs. Wily defensive sprinter. Can Manny’s foot speed out-chase a back-speeding Mayweather? Will Mayweather stay pretty or a messed-up floyd?
If Manny will lost this one, I won’t see great damage in his face. He will likely lose by points. I wonder how PBF would look like if Manny wins this one.
Manny shows mercy to those who remain humble at heart that is why he made hesitations in the Cotto fight and looked at the referee when Cotto had unofficially surrendered the fight. But For Mayweather, I doubt if he would.
I have no doubt Pacquiao will eat up Floyd once they meet in the ring…let’s just let their fist do the talking…I’m sure those who can’t take it will always have excuses…this will also be in a catch weight should this push through granting they can agree on the purse split. The question w is – Will Mayweather honor the agreement? Note that he didn’t do that against little Marquez, how much more against a juggernaut Manny whose punching power is way much stronger than Marquez..
Though the scores against Cotto was lop-sided without the TKO, butI still believe Cotto presented more danger to Manny than any other boxer he faced of late and maybe against Mayweather..(4-5 rounds and it will be over.)
You know why Mayweather will take on Manny? It’s because he was thinking what others before him thought – Manny is too small and cannot hurt them. And you know what happens? TRY IT FLOYD SO YOU WILL KNOW FIRST HAND!
The reason why PBF got a rib injury during training before the Marquez fight because he was shoulder rolling. And left to rib of PBF from his sparring partner hit flush. Imagine the Pacman do that to Floyd. PBF will become a like a “soman” hitting the floor.
The Pacman WILL carve out PBF ribs.
Babyback, babyback ribs, chili!!!!
Cotto did some shoulder roll of his own but to no effect against the Pacman
Alot of good points. I’ve argued for a while that Pacquiao has been very cleverly matched, all had similar come-forward slug it out stlyes, all stand straight on and don’t move round the ring. Mayweather is a completely different beast, and it’s not just cos he is a better fighter, his style will be completely different to anyone Pac has faced since Marquez. PAC fans would do well to remember how effective counter punching can be against manny, even Cotto was counter punching him with ease. If you think Pacquiao looked amazing on Sat then think of this- Cotto hit Pac with ease on Sat, you can double that for Mayweather. Now think of all the punches Cotto took, and divide it by 3/4 for Mayweather.
mayweathe will jab pacquiao out.
the nice thing about pacquiao is people doesn’t give him real credit for his accomplishments.
david daiz was subpar
delahoya was drained and apst his prime
hatton was a staionary target
cotto was not the same after the margarito fight
go back on the tapes look at how pacquiao disposes them.
david diaz = in and out fight
delahoya = in out with the lead straight left
hatton = right hook
cotto = left uppercut
the nice thing about his fights, you’ll never know what hit you until it’s late. i’ll bet pacquiao will go for the body against mayweather with an overhand left to the head especially if mayweather stays on the rope and do the shoudler roll. look at the shoudler roll, it really isn’t that penetrable, with apcquiao’s power and fsat work rate, he’s going to break down mayweather.
pacquiao’s strategy and fights changes according to the opponent infront of him, so it’s basically useless to say “Mayweather would have a field day against Pacquiao if he fought the same way he did against Cotto.”
Mayweather punching power is lacking to stop Pacquiao’s onslaught of heavy barrage of power punches.A three combination of power punch that will hit Mayweather 20% in every round with a suspect ribcage,I think Pacquiao can do the job.And with Freddy Roach master analisys of Mayweather strong and weak points.Remember Sugar Ray as great as he is,is a question mark why he avoided the whirlwind Pryor who just like Pacquiao punches from all angles with power and relentless measure.There’s no way Pacquiao will shy away from Mayweather.
Let me guess, my “writer”. If Pacquiao whipped up on Shane the way he whipped up on these last three fighters he’s faced, the excuse could be “Shane, like Oscar, is over the hill.” Get the hell out of here man/woman. Give the man some credit.
…probably not! common, tell me, what benefit should I get once I defeated mayweather? …nothing right? is there a belt at stake? none! and now he wants to fight me, and asking a bigger piece of the pie…hahaha
it’s funny, isn’t it?
my last price if he wants to fight me, 55 – 45!
PBF style is NOT defense….it’s called Running.
It doubt PBF will go toe-to-toe with the Pacman.
@Foreman…David Diaz was a southpaw. Floyd is not a southpaw. Seriously, do you know anything about boxing?
Pacman will not fight Floyd, reason Floyd is taller,has longer reach, more faster and a south paw. Pacman is also a south paw so is Valero.Pacman never fought a south paw before.
oh cmon guys, the hard puncher cotto didnt even knock down pacman. how could mayweather knockout pacquiao?
Great article, Dave! Your analysis is well thought out, reasonable and unbiased. Pacquiao has beaten a Cotto who has been on the decline. Margarito and Clottey have both, taken much out of Cotto, both psychologically and physically. Manny was able to beat a badly dehydrated and weakened De la Hoya and a Hatton, who is an exciting fighter, but one who is seriously lacking in technical skills. I strongly believe that Floyd would be able to take Manny to school if they fight, and eventually knock him out. I further believe that Roach, who is an excellent trainer, is fully aware of the problems that his fighter would have with “Money”.
Dave LAhr are you an acolyte of santiago or perez? your rhetoric, although tame, reeks of the same santiago, perez schmeel. same ol excuses that cotto was the “ghost” of cotto.
Makes sense on the face of things Iska, but slightly incorrect. Mayweather’s win over Marquez had nothing to do with size despite the 2lbs over the limit weigh in. He beat him because he was smaller and had a shorter reach – you can’t give Mayweather a reach advantage and expect to win which is why Manny will struggle. Their skills are on a par and the only thing that will make the difference is size. Their foot and hand speed are comparable, Floyd’s upper body movement is slightly better, Manny’s power slightly better. Both counter at pretty much the same speed. Styles make fights – you can’t compare shared opposition and draw those conclusions, otherwise Margarito would have beaten Shane.
damn is up with the writers on this website? why can’t y’all just appreciate what pacquiao has done for the sport of boxing and subsequently your website. people are interested again. not because of pretty boy floyd. (never will understand why a fighter will call himself pretty imho)… Boxing is now the #1 sport watched online… Pacquiao google searches are probably what has given this site the number of hits required to actually sustain their advertising accounts. so please come with some good unbiased material because there’s only so much crap people will put up with before they look to a better website for info.. learn from Mayweather’s mistakes.. his trash talking will never allow him to expand beyond his core fan base… dont let the same thing happen to your site…
people keep on saying that Manny had a hard time against Marquez twice while Mayweather had toyed with Marquez. But Marquez fought Pacquiao when Marquez was at his best form & weight. Mayweather fought Marquez at his form exactly the opposite that Manny fought him. Why compare them when there was really a big difference then & now? Now, if we are to compare those fights of Manny & Floyd against Marquez, then we should also compare Floyd’s & Manny’s fights against Hatton.
Hatton fought Mayweather at a weight not exactly his best (147); against Manny, he fought at his most comfortable weight(140). Comparing the two, who had more advantage then—Floyd or Manny? Floyd had the advantage bec. he fought at his natural weight but it took him longer than Manny–who fought Hatton at his best weight–to knock him out.
mayweather may have his style but Manny has his own & knowing how Roach & team has prepared for every fight, they will surely have something for Floyd as they have had for the other fights.
For the last 3 fights of Manny, people are saying he wont have a chance. They were proven wrong. Now, they are at it again.
Some People are still dellusional… Put yourself on Pacquiao’s shoes, after fighting your way to the top, would you let some self proclaiming champion who doesn’t have the belt call the shots when you fight him??? Really people… start using ur brains and get ur mouths out of mayweather’s balls….
This writer’s style of piecing together paragraphs greatly mimics one Manuel Perez, Hmmm.
Regardless of whether you like Floyd’s style I can’t see him getting beat by a smaller man with a shorter reach. Manny’s quick on his feet but Floyd’s just as fast and Floyd made Marquez look like a walk in the park. Fair enough Manny is something special, but as the old saying goes, a good big one will beat a good little one. Their skills are on a par unlike the Cotto fight so the size would make the difference if he fought Floyd. Power wouldn’t come into it.
Pacquiao said “Bring It On.” What do you say now?
are you nuts trevez 17… you’re out of your mind…pacman would get outboxed by mayweather… oh c’mon… you and your fellow LIAM and PEREZ are INSANE…
stupid writer.pacman has guts to face anybody. floyd is always afraid to be hit that explains his fighting style.floyd talks and talks how great he is while pac does the talking in the ring. pac will fight floyd anytime but the negotiations will hurt floyd so the fight will not happen unless he floyd will agree to the terms which should go the way pac wants because he is the biggest draw.this certainly is good excuse for floyd to duck pac.pac does not need floyd.floyd is no great like pac.floyd remains unbeaten because he doesnt risk fighting with the best while i predict pac will try to snatch an 8th title from the super welterweight division.
Pacquiao would get outboxed by Mayweather plain and simple, if the fight doesen’t go ahead ot’s because of Pacquiao and Arum!!!
Roach said after the Hatton bout that he wanted to see Manny fight 2 or 3 more times then hang up his gloves. That means 1 or 2 fights left – guaranteed he’s not going to retire without fighting Floyd, and I seriously doubt Floyd’s going to sit back and watch him take the limelight whilst the media’s slating him for running scared of Manny. Manny’s now put himself in a position where Floyd can’t refuse the fight and the world and Floyd know it.
All things financial being equal, Pacquiao would and should definitely fight Floyd…there’s nothing to lose here for Manny for there’s no disgrace in losing to somebody like Floyd…i think its Mayweather whos not thrilled at the thought of losing to Manny (although he wont admit it)…as to Floyd being nobody like anyone that Manny has faced before, bear in mind that those line have alrady been said much too often prior to all of Mannys last 3 fights…as to styles, Roach and Manny will definitely make adjustments and their fight plan is never the same for each bout.
Floyd mayweather just wants to make money, that’s why he fought Marquez. He saw the mexican fan base as a huge payday, that’s why he fought Marqauez. I agree with Muzza, Manny don’t need Floyd, Floyd needs Manny. If he thinks he holds any cards in the negotiations for this fight, he’s crazy. He has NO BELT, and Manny IS the bigger draw, plus he has a better resume than Floyd. Besides, when did the guy in the #2 spot call the shots? Answer: NEVER!!
Poor article. Cotto has had two fights in the last year but neither was against Margarito – that was in July 2008. “unless Roach had some unheard of strategy to use for the fight” – I seem to remember that when Oscar double jabbed and followed up that Mayweather struggled. For some unknown reason Oscar didn’t keep it up. The HBO commentary clearly pointed that out to even the most stupid fight fan yet you’ve chosen to ignore it. I’ve always been a huge Cotto fan, but even if Cotto was past his best its clear to anyone watching the weekend’s fight that Pacquiao is undoubtedbly something special and if he did fight Mayweather, Floyd wouldn’t find it easy by a long long shot. We can do without yet another biased, uninsightful jounalist on this site thanks.
YOU MAKE DAN RAFAEL LOOK LIKE BOX OF DING DONGS!
GREAT ARTICLE….. SPOT ON!!!
We’ll see what happens in the ring.
That’s why nobody is CALLING OUT anybody directly.
If you’ll notice, it’s always indirect. Why? Whoever calls out first has to cease to the other fighter’s terms.
I say split down in the middle and let’s get ready to rumble.
I agree with kris… there’s a lot of excuses put out for the people that loss to Pacquiao..but none for Marquez who was 25lbs less than Mayweather on fight night. I agree that Mayweather would be the hardest opponent that Pacquiao has faced… However, I strongly feel(as do a lot of other people) that Floyd avoids fights he could lose… why face a smaller Marquez rather than Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao or Williams…
oh yea i forgot to say ur an idiot!
mayweather will have a field day? what the hell all he will be doing is moving around trying not to get hit with his pitty patty punches theres no way he could hurt pacman – which will make it a boring fight just like mayweather vs delahoya and especially mayweather vs marquez- pacman definately does not need mayweather , mayweather needs him!
I agree with Kris in the sense that there should be no excuses because Cotto was in great shape going into the fight, he just wasnt perpared. That’s Cotto’s fault not Pacquiao’s. Please just give Pacquiao his much deserved props! As far as Mayweather Jr.. I am shocked at how many people think Pacquiao would have a harder time with Mayweather than Mosley!!!! If anything I think this past Cotto fight would be proven to be harder for Pacquiao then with a fight with Mayweather… You say he’s great because he hasnt fought real challenging fighters! How can he be a representation of his division if he hasnt even fought Cotto, Mosley, Berto, Clottey! Thats for names in the same weight division as Mayweather off the top of my head!!!! Four people that Mayweather hasnt fought! And you say he’s the best in his weight division??? Give me a break! If anything, Shane Mosley is the face of the welterweight division! He is a real fighter and poses the BIGGEST threat to the fake Mayweather and the TRUE Pacquiao! WAKE UP!
easy decision for pretty boy……if matweather gets lucky he will knock out manny p. !!! he is no match for mayweathers total package..
Are you sniffing Glue??? Now Pacmans a fight dodger???? You say Pacman should of fought Mosley?? Are you real?? How about Mayweather fight Mosley.!! No that wont happen will it. Because Mayweather is the only Cherry picker in these parts and has been all his Boxing life. Now Mayweather not Pacman needs to man up here PBF has got it all to prove and if he fights and beats Pacman hes on his way to proving it. Dont forget Dave it was Pacman who destroyed Del La Hoya (A POOR ONE MIND) but never the less he did a far better job than Mayeathers morjority win which could of and should of been a draw. He smashed Ricky Hatton in two! it took Mayweather and Joe Cortez 10 to beat Hatton. He had the balls to fight a very brave and dangerous Cotto unlike Mayweather opting to fight an ex 135lb marquez. Thing is Pacman does not need Mayweather, Mayweather needs Pacman. And if Mayweather comes knocking the Manny will answer not with his mouth but in the ring with his fists.
everyone pacquiao has faced recently is too big or too strong or too good or whatever, then when he beats them they were too old, too dehydrated, too damaged or whatever. revisionist history. better think of the excuses now for mayweather or just pick pacquiao to win. he defies logic, so trying to analyze him logically will never work. i doubt mayweather really wants to fight pacquiao anyway. he will shout about it in the press and then sabotage it in negotiations.
Spot on, to beat PBF you have to be able to unpick the lock to the cutest defense in boxing and at the same time avoid the rapier counters . PBF is another step up for Manny , can he do it ? bring it on and lets see
Great article, good points as well, I think Mayweather can take apart Pacquiao, but the Pacman in my eyes just keeps getting better so who knows, lets just hope this fight goes ahead, so we can witness probably the biggest most anticapated fight ever!
oh yeah and another thing i wish this site would bin off the awful perez & santiago!
dont bother to write again. this is a piece of crap. Non-sense writer
If Pacquiao would have beaten Mosley, then you would be saying that Mosley is not the fighter he was earlier in the decade, especially after losing to Cotto and struggling with Mayorga. You would then say that Pacquiao “should have” fought Cotto instead.
Give me a break.
Totally agree with you sir!!! Totally!!!!