Haye needs to focus on Ruiz rather than the Klitschko brothers
November 10th, 2009
By Scott Gilfoid: In recent days, there has been a lot of talk about the big money that World Boxing Association heavyweight champion David Haye will make in a fight against one of the Klitschko brothers late in 2010. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer has even gone so far as to say that the fight would make 120 million. Personally, I think that’s a ridiculous figure and I find it hard to keep from laughing when I read that. I have no doubts that the fight would make decent money, but not anywhere near what Schaefer thinks it will be.
Haye barely won the fight, beating Valuev by a 12 round majority decision and averaging around 10 punches thrown per round. I’m not talking about 10 actual connects per round, I’m referring to 10 punches thrown per round. Haye’s work rate was abysmal for a heavyweight his size. Haye weighed only 218, which is small for a heavyweight, yet he was unable to throw enough punches to win many of the rounds.
I personally had Haye losing the fight by a round due to his constant running and his lack of punches thrown in the fight. It wasn’t that Haye couldn’t physically throw punches, it was more a case of him looking deathly afraid of getting hit by one of Valuev’s clubbing punches. What I don’t like about that is that Valuev isn’t a big puncher and I can’t understand how or why Haye couldn’t throw more shots in the fight.
Haye’s defenders point out that Haye hurt his right hand early in the fight and that’s why he didn’t throw a lot of punches. However, I took a second look at Haye’s fight against Monte Barrett last year in November and noticed that Haye didn’t throw a lot of punches in that fight either. Nor did Haye throw a lot of punches in his fight with Enzo Maccarinelli in 2008.
What I seem to be seeing here is a fighter that likes to load up and pot shot, but who deathly hates to get hit in return by his opponents. Because of that, Haye stays on the outside and moves around a lot to prevent from getting hit. In a way, Haye reminds me of a poor man’s version of Chris Byrd. I say poor because Byrd was willing to mix it up, stay in close and make his opponents miss.
Although he would certainly use movement, he never moved anywhere close to the amount that Haye showed in his fight with Valuev last Saturday night. Even against big punchers like Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko, Byrd was willing to stay in the pocket and trade with them.
Somehow, I see Haye running laps around the ring when and if he fights the Klitschko brothers. The running that we saw against Valuev will likely pale in comparison to the running that Haye will do against Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko. His whole thing will be to try and pot shot his way to victory, hoping to impress the judges by landing a small – really small – amount of shots each round. It won’t work.
However, I have my doubts that Haye will ever get a shot at the Klitschko brothers, because I see him losing to Ruiz next year. Haye won’t be able to beat Ruiz by pot shotting him 10 shots per rounds, because Ruiz is capable of landing a lot more than 10 punches per round. He also isn’t afraid to mix it up and take a shot. Ruiz likes to stay in close where he will be able to neutralize Haye’s power and take advantage of his own by clobbering Haye with uppercuts.
Many people still see Ruiz as a punch and clinch fighter. He’s changed his style a lot in the past couple of years and is now much more of a puncher than he used to be. Before Ruiz was stopped in the 1st round by David Tua a long time ago, Ruiz used to be a slugger, He’s turned back into that same fighter and is much more dangerous and entertaining than he used to be.
I think Ruiz will adopt the punch and clinch tactics if he finds that Haye’s power or speed is too much for him. In that case, Ruiz is every effective at getting his shots off before he’s hit. His jab is excellent and we saw how vulnerable Haye was at getting hit with jabs in his fights against Monte Barrett and Valuev. Haye may run a lot and stay on the outside but he’s not good at avoiding a jab. This is why I see Ruiz, and, of course, the Klitschko brothers, beating Haye.
I think Haye needs to forget about the huge money that he’ll make against the Klitschko brothers and focus more on the Ruiz fight. I think Haye is hugely underestimating Ruiz and seeing him as a Valuev or Maccarinelli type opponent instead of a live threat that could beat him.
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UKanSodOff, how can u criticise Haye in the Macrinelli fight, he nearly killed the guy by taking his head off. He won by KO and dominated every round. To criticise him is just dumb.
Same old rubbish. This is getting seriously boring.
Yawn, Ruiz is crap END OF, come on Scott your little obsession with us superior brits is getting boring now!!!
yet another wrong prediction for scott will he ever git one right ffs
i hate this guy but i suposee its a laugh reading this guy make a fool of himself about his boxing knowlege
poor mans chris bryd lmao! go and find some rope u numpty!!
you really dont have a clue if you think ruiz will beat haye
‘Haye stays on the outside and moves around a lot to prevent from getting hit’ – hahahahahahaha I can’t actaully believe a so-called boxing journalist just wrote that down and published it in the context of it being a bad thing. Hahahahahaha.
The most worrying thing for Scott is surely that Britain has a batch of a dozen or so genuinely talented and potentially great young fighters right now. U.K. boxing is in great condition and there will be successes along the way that will, obviously, destroy Scott’s morale.
“There may be trouble ahead….”
i googled john ruiz and it said who in the heck is john ruiz !!!
Haye had been saying that Wladimir Klitschko’s style was boring and that Wladimir fights like he is scared of getting hit.
Well, what did Haye do last Saturday? He threw much fewer punches than Wladimir. Haye threw 143 punches and landed 98 of them. Haye also looked terrified of whenever Valuev launched his punches.
Now, Haye is going to have a taste of his own medicine. He will have the other contenders calling him out and demanding a fight with them. If Haye refuses, he will not look very brave will he?
Scott, come on now, Ive told you, only an hour a day on the keyboard. Now hustle your sweet little tail over here, me and the other Andre want some sugar, there’s a good lil biatch
lets face it gilfraud, it doesnt matter if david haye was fighting john ruiz or oliver mccall next you would still back against the brit bcoz thats just wot you do! your “articles” are becoming mundane and you seem to be more of a novelty joke like figure on boxingnews24 now rather than an actual “writer”.only an idiot would respect or agree with your silly bias opinions and predictions which are more often than not WRONG.
YOUR A DICK, HOW CAN TOU SAY HAYE RUNS WHEN YOU SUPPORT DIRRELL YOU QUEER
Oh no not another Haye article
Well done though on generating more traffic to the site as most know that that is your purpose.
Yawn.. garbage again.
David Haye is nothing like Chris Byrd;
Chris Bryd – 47 fights, 4 KO’s.
David Haye 23 fights, 21 KO’s.
I rest my case.
…and with your track record why do you think anyone would be interested in one of your predictions other than to back the opposite result!?!
Attention seeking, Scott?
OCD OCD Scot, go get some meds and stop writing the same old rubbish.
The Haye fans are in a terrible state, their main man managed to get a questionable win out of their idol and they know very well after the dismal showing against Valuev Haye’s dreams as well as their own aspirations will end in a nightmare of defeat at the fists of Vitali or Wladimir Klitschko come fight night. Haye is not the stuff that champion heavyweights are made of and his abbreviated visit to the heavyweight scene will be reviewed as just that, short and without significance.
Good point well made by the writer of this article-Haye threw a seriously small number of punches in the Maccarinelli fight. In fact, from the 3rd round onward it was absolute zero. Terrible. Same thing after round 5 against Barrett. How does Haye think he can win fights by simply knocking his opponents out?
To Everybody:
For those who dont know Ruiz, He only been ko one time in his carrer and that was in 1996. this guy is not the best heavyweight but there a 99.9% that you will not knock him out and that he will give you trouble all nite. So Haye have to take him serious if not he can regret it big time, Ruiz is not a joke. He lost to roy jones cause of jones speed but jones was sacred to get close to him the whole fight and Ruiz beat Value twice and he got rob both times.
ya dis guys retarded haye doesnt potshot at all he only did dat against valuev because dats da only way 2 fight him wat did he expect him 2 do trade with him? i also think he has an unhealthy obsession with haye
Brettchko needs to go to school, probably fourth grade to learn how to read and write!
I’m afraid Pete the law of average’s don’t apply to Scott, he talk’s rubbish all the time!
Ruiz will be knocked out before the bell for round six! Haye never threw many punches in his cruiserweight days because his opponents were on the canvas pretty quick! ( Carl Thompson ) accepted! Seven stone lighter and 11″ shorter, do you trade centre ring? Me thinks not! Great display of fighting on the back foot.
Scott is like the john and Edward of sports writing. He is only allowed to as his articles are like watching a freak show…. You can only but guess what s hit he will write next!!!
So this is Scotts latest prediction.
Haye wont get past Ruiz.
The law of averages would suggest that at some point Scott will pick a fight correctly.
OH OUIT CHR CRYING YALL ARE HAYE NUTHUGGERS !! HE WILL BEET RUIZ PROB KO HIM BUT THATS AS FAR AS IT GO’S HE WILL NEVER BEET THE KLITS BROTHERS THEY ARE SIMPLT BIGER STRONGER AND WLAD IS AS FAST . HAYE WILL GET KILLED AND I CANT SAY IT WONT BE FUN WATCHING HIM GET HIS *&% KICKT AND HE WILL BAD IF HE DONT PUSS OUT FIRST.. HMM WE’LL SEE I GUESS
SAME O SAME O GO AND CHOKE ON YOU CORNFLAKES YOU C.U.N.T
Shock Horror!!
Boxer hates getting hit!
1) Haye didn’t need to throw many punches at Enzo Macc as he’d blown him away early on.
2) Boxing is about using your feet if that’s what you’re good at, just ask Andre Dirrell who spent most of the Froch fight running away.
Sorry Scott, but I find your writing amusing at best and down right offensive at worst.
agree with parts,haye was way 2 scared of valuevs powe .what power/valuev has no power whatsoever but haye was running around like a little b****!.to put it bluntly i rated haye before he disgraced himself in winning the title in such absurd fashion.ask yourselves when have u ever watched such a boring heavy title fight in the last 20 years.im afraid the klits willdestroy haye if he refusesto engage his opponants for moe than 10 secs a round
Y is Haye fightin Ruiz. Tua knocked him owt. its a matter of time til Tua will Dominate this division
scott scott you write so many a word,
you make out your some kind of boxing nerd,
but when we read all that you have to say
we realise you speak a load of turd.
Haye will smash up john ruiz,
he will throw bombs in lightning fast flurrys,
the yank wont cope when its in the mix,
poor lad wont see the 6th
hahaha. scott your genius, theres no other word for it.
I have to admit i also noticed the lack of punches thrown in the Maccranelli fight too.
What the hell? Another identical article of pure and utter nonsense from this awful writer.
Will you listen to yourself “Haye…who deathly hates to get hit in return by his opponents”. Is it me or is this not the whole point of boxing? You hit them and they don’t hit you, which Haye proved to be a master at on Saturday night.
And it’s not Haye talking about the Klitschko’s you idiot, it’s Shaefer – you said it yourself! And why not! There’s no way Haye’s going to just be looking past Ruiz anyway. I saw an interview with Haye today who credited Ruiz for his accomplishments and stated it would be a tough fight. But in truth, Ruiz looked awful on the undercard and Haye will have far too much speed and power for him.
I dont get it. Dirrell ran around the ring away from Froch and you praised him, yet coz haye is british he’s a cowared. Kepp your story straight.
Keep it up Scott you don’t half make me laugh mate, keep up the good work.
You’re getting boring Scott, no one is interested in your opinions
Shut up gilford u c unt, a blown up Roy Jones beat Ruiz 10 years after I beat him im coming for u and ur mama