Haye defeats Valuev: Look familiar?
November 8th, 2009
By Dennis Broadhurst: After watching Haye win a twelve round decision last night over Valuev I was hardly inspired. Haye just ran and ran and only hit Valuev about three times every round. Valuev himself showed how bad he is, how little power he has and proved how boring he is. Haye showed good head movement and ring movement but he didn’t follow it up with anything.
If we continue to see fights like this then boxing will die. They are boring fights with very little action and no knockouts, please fighters show some bottle and slug it out! It also came to my attention with all this dancing and mouthing that Haye was trying to imitate the great Muhammad Ali, this failed because 1) The public have seen it before and 2) Haye didn’t follow his dancing up, Ali used to throw loads of punching even while he was dancing away (Watch Ali vs Williams 1966).
I hope Valuev retires and I can see Haye being toppled by Klitschko (either one). Well done for winning Haye but next time put on a better show.
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Can we find out which rock these writers were found under?
ANNOYMOUS WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS WORD BIAS.THE WAY I SEE IT ,IF ONE DOE´S´NT AGREE WITH YOU LOT THAT THE BRITISH FIGHTER WAS BETTER,THEN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BIAS.HATTON WAS KNOCKED OUT IN 2 FIGHTS,HE HAD THE WORLD OF EXCUSES,PEOPLE WHO DON`T AGREE WITH THOSE EXCUSES ARE BIAS.I GO EVEN FURTHER BACK.I WAS BORN IN BARBADOS,IN 1970 WORLD CUP WHILE STATIONED IN 12TH COMPANY RAMC IN WOOLICH,I HAPPENED TO MENTION THAT I THOUGHT BRAZIL WAS A BETTER TEAM THAN ENGLAND,THAT ALMOST CAUSE A MINI RIOT.I HAVE NEVER MET A MORE SELF-RIGHTIOUS PEOPLE THAN THE BRITISH,AND I SHOULD KNOW I SPENT 3 YEARS OF MY LIFE IN THEIR ARMY.I THOUGHT HAYE WON THE FIGHT,BUT HE WAS CRAP,IT WASW THE SAME WITH DIRRELL,HE WAS VERY GOOD IN HIS MATCH WITH FROCH,BUT EVEN STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE THAT HE WAS THE WINNER IN THAT FIGHT.IF HE DID´NT SUDDENLY BECOME BRITISH.
Evander beat Valuev too and he wasn’t doing all that running stuff like Haye and David won. So I guess when your beating a guy that’s 7′ft tall by points you don’t get the Victory but when your a younger guy thats pot shoting and running I guess he can get the victory over a giant. David vs. John Ruiz next.
Ridiculous article. Haye won the fight the only way he could, especially after breaking his right hand in round 2!
You can’t have seriously expected Haye, who was giving away 98 lbs in weight, 1ft in height and 9 inches in reach, to engage with Valuev and take the fight to him simply to entertain the fans??
Haye fought smart and rightly won the fight. You’ll see how explosive Haye is against different opponents in the future – fighting against the biggest heavyweight in boxing history was certaintly not the time to do it.
Crap article.
There are obvious differences between Froch – Dirrell and Haye – Valuev:
* Froch – Dirrell are same weight, same height. Valuev is 9 inches taller and 100 pounds heavier.
* Dirrell was constantly holding Froch – Haye was legitimately avoiding all the punches by dodging them, and in fact, Valuev was initiating the clinches.
If all heavyweights were expected to trade punches with Valuev then he surely would beat every single one of them!
this writer does’nt understand his own sport , mate its style versus style and part of any style is ring generalship , brain over brawn .
Taxi for Roots, go on son………………
big up to haye he took the belt,but not in a very convincing manner.valuev has got to be the worst heavyweight champ in history.hayes not the real deal unless he beats the klitchko bros.congrats to uk on thier third world champ
boxking!…. yeh id love to see him give a british fighter a chance too, maybe sexton. but hed ko him easy. dont think tyson fury or david price are ready yet. in a couple of years they might be.
i think in this fight haye could of made it more decisive, if he threw just a bit more each round. the 12 round showed what would of happened. because valuev couldnt catch him on the inside… the diference between the dirrell fight is nothing. its almost the same fight. but we got the decision and you didnt. get over it!
Roots is knob head
roots is a clown
ROOTS haha i have to say ive read alot of comment you have made lately and its obvious your another biased american.. the only way to beat valuev is to hit and move.. almost everyone who has stood and traded has been knocked out.. imo valuev shouldnt even be allowed to box hes pathetic and the most boring fighter ever.. and if i remember alomost every great fighter ever lived as been on there back looking at the ring lights during there career.. its comes with fighting the best.. and in hattons case the 2 best fighters there has ever been.. FACT
Hayes hand looked very sore after the fight. Hes so full of confidence hed of wanted to land those right hand bombs all night. And hed of tried if it hadnt been damaged.
And who knows he could of KO,d Va;uev if hed shot off more ammo throughout the fight.
the fight wasnt the most exciting but All credit to haye who won the fight! would have liked to see a few knockdowns but hopefully more to come from Mr hayemaker. not sure if he really damaged his hand though, i think that was an excuse for not knocking him out but haye should not be ashamed of that! we now have THREE british world champions. i reckon it would be an idea to clear up the british heavyweight scene i.e tyson fury, or sexton whilst waiting to fight the klitschkos!
HAYE WON FAIR AND SQUARE(I HAD HIM TO LOOSE).BUT IF THE TABLE WERE TURNED AND VALUEV HAD RUN FROM HAYE THE WAY THAT HAYE RAN FROM VALUEV IN BRITAIN HE WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THEN DECISION.THIS PROVES THAT BRITAIN IS WORSE THAN GERMANY WHEN IT COMES TO DECISIONS.DIRRELL DID A BETTER JOB ON FROCH,THAN HAYE DID ON VALUEV.DIRRELL WAS ROBBED BIG TIME IN BRITAIN.BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FROM A COUNTRY WHO CALLS A FIGHTER THAT FINISHED 2 OF HIS LAST 4 FIGHTS ON HIS BACK LOOKING UP AT THE RING LIGHTS “GREAT”.
i knew that plan wud work perfect for david how cud you stand in the middle of the ring with valuev plus he give him allot to think about in da last round i thought he was going to stop him ps he was fighting whith one hand for nine rounds against the biggest boxer ever he said he wud win and he did show the man sum respect
dey shud of gave the belt to the ref, he done more than both boxers, worst fight i’ve ever seen. watch haye will defend his title against bums now, he’s useless
Only an absolute fool would stand and trade with a man mountain of Valuev’s size (perhaps you fancy a go Dennis?). There is an old saying…’pick on someone your own size!’. Unfortunately, no opponent of the same dimensions exist for Valuev and the resulting mismatch forced Haye to use his better attributes in order to win. This result opens the Heavyweight division to be a much more exciting division than it was 24hrs ago.
try fighting someone 7 stone heavier and a foot taller. yes it was a boring fight but give him credit.seems to me the writers a bit bitter. wonder why?? lol
ive looked in to the future and this is what happens!…. David Haye defends against both Klitschko bros twice, KO’ING BOTH… then makes numerous defences against apponants like Ademek, Tua and Solis) then defends against one the up and coming challengers from uk either Tyson Fury or David Price! at the O2 arena!!! retires at 32 as undefeated at heavey weight!! its gonna happen!
i wonder when some of these biased yanks will give boxers respect after talkin rubish about them. scott gilfois and chris williams proved wrong again. watch out for another article about boxing with more backpedaling and no giving credit to haye
Dirrell had the height weight and reach advantage thats the difference Haye didnt
Haye did it, despite the hand problem. OK Klitschos, get ready to get knocked the F out!
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come on mate haye did exactly what he needed 2 do if he didnt dance about and got jabbed all evening he would have lost the descision, valuev the fight was not spectacular but he won and i think u will now see haye open up in his next few fights
come on the hayemaker!
just give haye credit right tatics to use and by rocking the giant at the end i think it shows everyone he has the punching power the knock the big boys out has anyone rocked him like that b4 his legs were gone
Ridiculous article.
Haye outboxed Valuev which was the only think he could do, no one in the heavyweight division has won a fight after weighing 7 stone less than thier opponent. surely that deserves some credit.
I could maybe emphasise with your point if haye did run all night and did not throw any meanigful shots but that wasnt the case, you could see in the 12th how shaken Valuev was.
Haye fought a strategic fight against a big man which was perfect. The only problem was lack of attack at certin times, we now know that was because he damaged hes hand so give the guy some credit u co c k s uc ker.
I only saw one real clinch in the entire fight. Maybe if dirrell had only clinched once per fight rather than every time froch got near you would have a point…
Oh well…
The writers on this website are just not very good. Boxing news 24 need to take a long look at LIAM SANTIAGO, MANUAL PEREZ AND NOW THIS FOOL. Why are these morons given a platform as writers on this site because there reasons for not liking certain fighters are personal.
and im not saying it was a good fight to watch, im just saying haye deserved the nod, unlike dirrell
one difference between dirrell and haye is that haye didnt jump on the floor at every oppurtunity to avoid being hit, nor did he hold excessively for no reason whatsover – even when froch held his hands up to show he wasnt punching dirrell carried on holding. its alright being elusive, which is what haye was, its another thing being a pansy which is what dirrell was
Lets not forget, Froch hurt Direll on several occasions, Valuev barely landed one shot in 12 rounds…
broadhurst whatever your name. You dont know boxing stop writing articles. The correct tactic were applied. The larger man was on the front foot because of his size. David’s punches landed valuev’s didnt. Right decision
Tiny Britain has a new heavyweight Champion!!! Pound for pound Britain must be well up there!!!
Yeah stand toe to toe with a guy whos got 7 stone on you !!! that sounds like a good tactical plan Dennis!!! Why were sat on the settee last night Haye could of done with you in his corner. By the way he won on points in Germany.
Dennis,
I normally like your articles but I don’t think this one was written with much thought.
What we must remember is regardless of Valuev’s technical ability he was 1ft taller and 7st heavier so that would be Ivan Calderon vs David Haye!
The only was he was going to win was to stick and move and he did a fantastic job, if his hand was broken then it is sensational.
I thought Valuev would get the decision due to being the hometown man but as soon as I saw Richard Schaefer hanging around I thought Haye wins. Money talks and Haye is a cash cow right now.
yanks are all jelous of our boxers hahah you coundnt c throw your jelous eyes how good joe calzaghe was now with hay who is a breath of fresh air for boxing you still cant except him your JELOUS of little britains great boxer
and for your article say hay ran you have shown littl boxing knowledge how the f**k would you fight a giant like that llf hay done good for a little guy agiast tht beast anywas another world champ
Sorry but I hate watching boring fights with people who don’t throw punches, Haye could have beaten Valuev if he had traded with him. I did not know that he broke his hand but seriously how can you think it was a godo fight? Yes Haye won and congratulations to him but seriously it was a bad fight.
Crap article. Haye fought a brilliant fight and made Valuev look slow. The 1st man to wobbled the gaint in that way.
There are some really stinky so called writers on this forum and you are one of them.
Crap article, what do you expect him to do stand and trade with someone weighing 7 stone more and with a 7 inch reach advantage? Have you seen the size of his head, no wonder he broke his hand on it in the 2nd round. The Klitschkos would do exactly the same if they ever went in with Valuev.
If it was just like Froch Dirrell, which it wasnt, then all the people like Scott, Dennis and the rest that said Dirrell won his fight cant come on here and say Haye lost his.
Bad article, haye did a lot more than you said and that was the best Valuev i’ve ever seen, good show lads
The poor lad broke his hand in the 3rd round so he had to fight the remaining rounds with his left. Good on him.
Haye did exactly what he had to do to win the fight.
Dirrell was not fighting someone with a 100 lbs weight advantage and a 1 foot size advantage.
Dirrell and froch are the same height and weight.
You cant compare these 2 fights. Haye never usually runs, he is usually the hunter. But the only way for him to beat someone with such physical advantages was to become the hunted and escape then strike back.
He did it perfecly. Landing MORE PUNCHES than Valuev, and almost flooring valuev in the final round.
I watched this fight with spanish commentators. I dont speak spanish, my opinion was not swayed by anybody. I just say what i saw.
Haye would not fight like this against the klitcho brothers.
Just watch what haye does to John Ruiz. That hugger is gonna get hit every time he tries to hug haye. Expect the old man to get knocked out like david tua did to him.
Cant blame valuev, how can a slow giant catch someone smaller who constantly runs away? Obviously haye has to use that tactic but not to that extreme, threw that little almost looked scared. If genuinely hurt hand fair enough.
No hope in sight for the Heavyweight division. Sooner or later, somebody’s gotta decide if it should be abolished altogether. LoL.
what a crap article. have you noticed gilford hasnt thrown his oar in yet and that the johnson dawson fight was reported first?? thats cos hes writing a brits are crap article even though david haye was fat and old the other day. what u rekon???
stupid boxing writers always predicting wrong i predicted haye would win and predict that manny will destroy miguel in the first 5 rounds of the fight
If haye had rocked him a little earlier, say in the 11th, I think he would have gone for it in the 12th.
it waS never going to be a slugfest, but It was nothing like the Dirrell – Froch fight.
I don’t think Haye is trying to be like Ali at all, neither do i think that it was like Froch-Dirrel because there wasn’t an unbelievable amount of holding (in fact there wasn’t any) and Haye chose the 100% right tactics, as for anyone questioning the legitimacy of the decision i just think they need to realize that Haye hit Valuev whenever he wanted to and Valuev couldn’t hit Haye unless Haye threw first and then it was only soft left hands.
Yeah, good job for a little guy with a broken hand. Valuev can have no complaints – he’d do exactly the same as Haye if he had to face a 9 foot, 31 stone boxer!
Knew this was coming unfortunately your points are totally flawed. Dirrell wasn’t giving 7 stone in weight away so don’t even try to compare it. Haye was also on top at the end and hurt valuev.
david broadhurst what an idiot you are he did what he had to do he won almost every round and rocked the valuev in the last round what more does haye have to do he did what he needed to so give the guy some credit?
Rubbish article does not take into account the fact tht haye injured his right hand( Yes his hayemaker) in the 2 nd round. Haye probably would have thrown more, but in fairness Hayes just become a heavywieght and has never fought someone of that size, i think Haye was disciplinedand with only one hand for the whole fight showed how bad Valuev is. I think he has every chance of taking the klitchko’s who are considerably lighter so will feel Hayes punches alot more.
NB that should have read stand and trade apologies
so you wanted him to stan a trade????? yeh that would have worked, muppet
he had to do what he had to do to get rid of valuev, the fact is we dont have thatboring giant anymor so we can actuly have some exciting heavyweight bouts now,
granted, he did throw the absolute minimum but if he did have a broken hand like he said he didn;t realy have a choice about that,
Now Hayes champ we’re gonna see some exciting fights all i can say is thank god he won cos i couldnt take anymore faceless eastern europeans jabbing smaller guys
The person who posted this article needs to go back to school because he sure doesn’t know anything about boxing! You telling me you can stand and trade with a man who is a foot taller and seven stones heavier than you! Find a new sport to talk about loser!!!
Haye hurt his hand in the 2nd round and this explains his lack of attack in the fight, having said that no fighter with such a vast height disadvantage is going to be able to go in and bomb valuev out. Valuev should ritire and Haye should make some defences before he takes on the Klit brothers. where is scotty gilfoid today ? in hiding ? ha ha ha
What you have to remember young Dennis is is that Dirrell wasnt giving away almost 10 stone and 7 inches in height!!!
Thats the difference.
I knew wed see a Dirrell, Froch comparison.
Look the only way to beat a one off giant like Valuev is to do it the way Haye did. There is no other way to face that opponant. He didnt throw enough for me but that is becuase of the hand injury which is NOT a fake injury.
Dirrell did the same to Froch for the 1st few rounds, flew in and out, making Froch miss badly and dancing in great fashion and landing the much better shots. But then Dirrell ran and hid and held, if hed of kept up the work from the early rounds hed of won against Froch.
And to be honest Froch wasnt a giant, Dirrell had options that Haye did not have.
The tactics were the same as froch dirrel for sure but in this case it was absolutely the right tactics….nobody in their right mind would stand and trade with somebody almost 1ft taller and 7 stone heavier….just think about it and accept that Haye won….dirrel and froch were evenly matched in size and weight, ive not doubt Dirrell is a great fighter and is a better boxer than froch all day but he employed the wrong tactics that night. get over it mate!
The job was to go and try to achieve the impossible !! which is what Haye done, so credit where its due. Haye fought the right fight against Valuev and was succesful. His style will change next time depending on the opponent.
Well done The Hayemaker.
There is n nobody in boxing who could have rocked him except david haye..
He will clean up the heavy weights and Britain will reign supreme again at heavyweight.
There is now some life in the heavyweight division, long live Davud Haye.
Totally agree, why run away from a talentless guy like him? Would understand it more if it was a klitchko. Well done to him all the same
Ali used to throw loads of punching
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Rubbish article. No boxing knowledge.