Haye defeats Valuev, but stinks up the joint with his running
November 8th, 2009
By Scott Gilfoid: British heavyweight David Haye (23-1, 21 KO’s) defeated World Boxing Association heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev (50-2, 34 KO’s) by a 12 round majority decision last night to take Valuev’s WBA title at the Arena Numberger Versicherung, in Nuremberg, Germany. The final judges’ scores were 116-112, 114-114 and 116-112. I had the fight scored a draw. Haye, 29, frankly fought a horrible fight with with his constant running and his low (we’re talking really low) punch output. Seriously, this was one of the worst bouts I’ve ever seen in all my life.
That was some awful boxing. Audley Harrison would have probably made it much more exciting that Haye did. And I don’t buy Haye’s excuse of hurting his right hand early in the bout one bit. I’ve heard that one before and it’s been used way too many times. And to think that Haye has been calling Wladimir Klitschko boring. That’s like the pot calling the kettle black.
At least Wladimir averages 50 to 60 punches thrown per round unlike Haye, who was throwing roughly 10 punches round against Valuev. It was something awful. 46-year-old Evander Holyfield did a much better job against Valuev, throwing more punches, scoring more and making it more exciting. Holyfield didn’t get the win, as people all know, but I think he should have won by at least four rounds.
Like I said, I saw Haye-Valuev as a draw and I was being very generous in giving some of the rounds for Haye in which he did little other than throw a few pot shots and basically run like a virgin on prom night. Haye was supposed to be the exciting heavyweight, someone who was supposed to clean up the division and bring new excitement to the heavyweights.
But Haye looked like a track star out there, running constantly and throwing only cheap pot shots. Really, that’s not much of a change from what Haye has always done. Haye has always pretty much been a pot shot fighter who doesn’t throw a lot of punches. He doesn’t like to get hit, so he stays on the outside and looks to land one big shot at a time.
As such, Haye’s work rate is usually low. He didn’t use to run, though, and if this is going to be his new exciting style in the heavyweight division, well I hate to break this to Haye fans but I don’t think he’s going to catch the imagination of boxing fans. I still don’t know what the reaction is for U.S. fans, but if this fight is seen by a lot of Americans, I can’t imagine that they’ll be enthused by the way Haye fought. Oh yeah, I forgot, Haye says he hurt his hand. I don’t buy it. I tell you, if Haye uses that 10 punch per round garbage against other heavyweights, ones that are more mobile than the slow, 36-year-old Valuev, Haye is going to be in big trouble. That was really awful to watch.
Much of the time last night, Haye’s one punch at a time pot shots missed their mark and either were blocked are just didn’t land at all. There was a significant amount of fans in the audience who cheered loudly for every punch that Haye threw, even the many that missed by a mile. It didn’t matter if he swung at air, Haye’s fans were cheering like mad man for every shot he threw. But Haye wasn’t doing much in the fight but circling the ring and using a ton of side to side movement.
Every once in a great while, he’d throw a wild pot shot that usually missed. Some of the times, he’d land but the shots had nothing on them because Haye looked so scared of being hit. Haye ran worse than Floyd Mayweather Jr. by far. I know that a lot of British boxing fans don’t care for Andre Dirrell, but he mixed it up much more than Haye.
You can’t tell me that Haye was throwing more punches than Dirrell. Haye made Dirrell look like Aaron Pryor last night, a fighter that never stopped punching in his fights. After listening to all the pre-fight bragging from Haye, I expected a lot more from him. He was supposed to knock Valuev out, and maybe Haye could have if he had just let his hands go. Instead, Haye did nothing until the 12th round when he briefly hurt Valuev with a hard left hook to the head that staggered the big Russian.
But what does Haye do? Instead of going after Valuev, Haye starts running again and circling the ring. What was that? If it wasn’t tragic it would be comical. I couldn’t believe it. Power sluggers like George Foreman and Mike Tyson must have been in shock watching one of their fellow power punchers in Haye fight so damn timidly. Like I said, I know Haye doesn’t like the way that Wladimir Klitschko fights, but he puts more shots together than this.
After the fight, Haye, who looked like he’d just cured cancer instead of running all around the ring and boring me half to death, had the gall to mention wanting to fight the Klitschko brothers in the near future. I think that’s a bad idea. Haye needs to fight John Ruiz, hopefully beat him by a close decision, and then try to defend his WBA title against the likes of Kali Meehan Denis Boytsov, Kevin Johnson and Ray Austin. If Haye’s lucky, he might be able to hold onto the WBA title until he turns 31, at which time Haye says he wants to get out of boxing.
I doubt that Haye could beat Johnson or Boytsov, and he may not get by Ruiz either. You have to be able to throw more than 10 punches per round in the heavyweight division unless you’re knocking your opponents down left and right. I didn’t see that happen last night. Just saw a punch of running, missing and a handful of pot shots from Haye.
Frankly, Haye looks too small for the heavyweight division. He reminded me a lot of Monte Barrett last night. I know that Haye beat Valuev by two of the judges’ scores, but I saw it as a draw. I think there are at a minimum 12 to 14 heavyweights that would have done a better job against Valuev than Haye did last night. Let’s face it, Valuev isn’t the best heavyweight in the division and probably shouldn’t have been a champion a long time ago if he had been facing other top contenders like Johnson, Odlanier Solis and Alexander Povetkin, to name just a few.
This fight was absolutely horrid to watch. I’m glad that Valuev isn’t the champion anymore and thankful that Haye got the win, but I think we have just exchanged one boring champion for another. Haye, with his pot shot style of fighting and his fear of getting hit, will likely do little to excite the heavyweight division. Haye’s power was much better at the cruiserweight level where he was able to rock his opponents with his pot shots.
Last night, Haye looked like a little child compared to the huge Valuev and his punches did little. Haye was very lucky he wasn’t facing a heavyweight with a much better work rate and power than the limited Valuev. He would have been in trouble if that’s the case.
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Haye rocked valuev?WTF that punch didnt even connect.It’s more like haye flashed a shot which blinded Valuev and Valuev lost his balance as he is that huge.
Dude are you kidding?Haye landed solidly a few times on valuev earlier…The result?Haye broke his hand.
According to haye, hitting valuev is like smashing against a brick wall…
Haye doesnt even have the power to worry valuev, let alone knock him out.
WRONG AGAIN SCOTT YOU BAD LOSER!Khan your next chance for a go lol?
britains heavyweight contender won Wat happened to America’s gets beet on his stool and cries and cries and cries and cries i think he is still crying now i no gilfoid is ha ha how many heavyweight champs has America got again because Europe has three and all the top contenders of any importance are all you guessed it european
I agree with post 84. This article is total sh*t. Haye did what he had to do in order to win the fight.
How can you say Haye doesn’t have the power to compete at Heavyweight after he made Valuev do the chicken dance? No one else in 52 fights has even made him blink.
Scott, if I ever run into you in the street somewhere, I’m
gonna punch you in the throat.
How can you say Haye has always been a runner. That’s absolute crap. He’s one of the most offensive minded boxers out there. This was the only fight in Haye’s career where he hasn’t stood and traded, and rightly so aswell, if he standed and traded with Valuev he’d get KO’d like anyone would. You’ve obviously only seen him fight 1 or 2 times and judge him on that like all yanks do about British fighters. Just like you all did with Froch Vs Dirrell and we know what happened there. Unlucky loser.
So Dirrell runs from Froch all night and it’s a masterful display of defensive boxing and Haye did similar tactics except that he didn’t fight like a pus*y and actually landed big shots and you say he ran all night and was scared of his own shadow. This just proves how biased you are and yet again you get a prediction wrong. I think we should start up a petition to get him removed from this site. What a complete and utter muppet.
david haye’s strategy was perfect for this fight. He never fights like this (90% ko recor!?), but he knew this was the only way to get the job done.
I am 100% sure that haye will go back to his normal self and destroy ruiz within 6 rounds.
And comparing haye to dirrel is ludicrous. I dont even have to explain why.
haye was too fast, he had a gameplan and executed it there on the night. what more could he do, he hurt valuev, WE ALL KNOW WHY AARON PRYOR NEVER STOPPED PUNCHING, CHEAT.
Haye boxed and moved beautifully when you consider what he was up against and with just one hand for much of the fight. The art of hitting and not getting hit. Haye showed he is smart and has the skills to handle bigger men (as well as a plan B). He is a lot more than just a one-dimensional banger.
Unified cruiser and now won the WBA heavyweight title in 24 fights.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
I was also a little dissapointed by Haye after all the talking pre-fight. But he did get the job done, never really getting hit by Valuev, Haye was the only one landing any kind of clean shots, just wish he did it a bit more often. I scored the fight 115-114 Haye. The rounds that I gave to Valuev wernt as much won by Valuev as they were lost by Haye’s running and refusal to come forward, even Adam Booth was getting a bit frustrated. But like i said, Haye landed the most punches and had valuev shaken a few times, and certainly hurt in the final round. Will be interesting to see where Haye goes from here.
this guy is british but yet you dislike every british fighter why?
haha wat an absolute arse hole u talk about it being a crap fight and you said haye would get beat but if u listened to the guys who know what there talking about like hatton and roach (even though i think cotto will destroy pacquiao) you could have tried to pretend you know wat ur on about and predicted the correct outcome. I think if haye had looked for the ko from the start the outcome would have been different but he proved a lot of people wrong and boxed a sensible fight so you go tell david haye it was boring cus i dont think hed give a crap cus hes got the WBA heavyweight title around his waist whether an arse like you thinks he should have or not
I agree with you that Holyfield probably did do a better job and still lost.
Now thats out the way. The reason Haye had a low punch output was because he hurt his hand. (take a look at the swelling on his knuckles) Also, Haye wouldnt have lasted the 12 rounds if he went in for the KO, he has always had stamina issues. Although I do believe now that he may have had the power to stop Valuev by TKO, judging by how he rocked him in the twelth.
As for the running, Dirrell employed exactly the same tactic against Froch. Both Dirrell and Haye did very well. However, Haye never really got hit other than a jab throughout the contest. Whereas Dirrell was caught on occasions by big shots. I thought Dirrell-Froch was a draw. I thought Haye beat Valuev fairly, however, I was unconvinced he would get the decision especially in Germany.
worst fight – you say, or try to say, ‘Valuev want fight,but haye was so scared then his been running like a coward at all tge time.’
Lets be fair, if your fighting a guy a clear foot taller than you, who has the weight advantage of a small, light flyweight, who also has more hair on his back than you have on your head, your hardly going to stand toe to toe with him and trade. He employed his tactics well, and went twelve rounds with the heavyiest world champion of all time. I bet every other opponent who has faced Valuev thinks now that it would have been a good idea to run and potshot from this guy.
Scott’s last article
Prediction: Look for Valuev to humiliate Haye
hahahah
that was the worst fight what i seen in my life!How mmuch they need to pay to get scores for haye???Horrible!Valuev was scored for allready 11 rounds(round by round) – that’s true.- so how he can loose the fight????Propably judges was sleeped for 11 rounds and they wakeup in 12th,when haye was shore that he’s the winner after just fiew punches so they give him some scorres.This was awful!Valuev want fight,but haye was so scared then his been running like a coward at all tge time.Maybe he’s preparing to marathon?if he was so shore before the resault so they must pay a lot of many for this fight.How you can win the fight after loosing 10 rounds of 12?Pu..y!!!
Your a disgrace to boxing writing.
Didn’t Gildoid write an article titled “Look for Valuev humiliate Haye”.
That’s 7 straight predictions in a row – all wrong
Maybe, just maybe, Gilfoid himself is starting to feel humiliated. W
hat he knows about boxing you can write on back of postage stamp, and still have space left for a life size photo of his brain.
lol…… oh my days, come on there must be some one here who can make up a protest website?
were all loving the gilfoid banter. think hes a kind of punch bag for the british boxing fan. come home from work and slate a gilfoid article.
personally i think the haye fight didnt go as well as it should. it does seem a little convenient that his hand hurt after the fight. but even so i had him win the fight. just like i had dirrll win. but we got lucky both times! hahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahah
Dirrell and froch are the same height and weight.
When dirrell fights someone 1 foot taller and 100 lbs heavier… and doesnt run and counter punch…
Then you can compare those 2 fights.
We have all seen haye, he doesnt run unless he has to. He is an intelligent fighter with a game plan. He did what he had to to win the title.
Even don king said haye won…
It happens sometimes.
ive been delected for speaking the truth
Scott Gilford is the Simon Cowell of boxing news.
i think your a joke pal ….. pefect game plan perfectly executed thank you very much …. i dont see how you expect boxers to win your telling me if you were in hayes situation you would go in and trade shots ur a complete gonad mate
You havnt got a clue scott How was he ment to trade against Valuev he beet him fair and square.You are in the wrong trade mate have a look in the mirror and hand youre notice in tommorow
scott im sorry but the job steve farhood got was given to the better man. even steve bunce who annoys me would ponder your lack of grey matter. last night the johnson article was published before the haye valuev. why? cos your 100 pre made articles were useless cos our guy won. u try fighting a dude a foot taller 90 pounds heavier and hairies than osama bin laden ball bags and see how you do (oh yea with a broken hand). oh and by the way even if you doubt the hand he did something non of your burger king endorsed haevyweights could do.
in the words of the buncy…adios.
IRON MIKE TYSON….
Scott, terrible, biased article. First and last time I read one of your articles. Sorry.
Didnt read the whole article, I couldnt stomache it! These biased reviews make me sick!
GUILFOID OUT!!!
change the channel mate, and stop bum licking dirrel
Gee, Lee, you really think that the Klitscko brothers could beat Haye? Of course, they will. Haye would have his hands full against the majority of the top 15 contenders in the division and would be extremely, I say extremly lucky if he could get past them. The Klitschko brothers are at least two levels above Haye in talent.
I WAS SURPRISED HOW BAD VALUEV WAS!!!
HAYE DID SOMETHING NO ONE HAS DONE BEFORE AND IT WORKED I ACTUALLY THOUGHT HAYE WOULD BE JUMPING IN CONSTANTLY WITH BIG SHOTS, THEN GET CAUGHT BY A SHOT FROM THE HUGE VALUEV BUT I WAS WRONG. I CAN ACTUALLY ADMIT THIS UNLIKE SCOTT WHO YET AGAIN HASNT MENTIONED HE GOT IT TOTALLY WRONG AGAIN. I STILL THINK HAYE WOULD HAVE ALOT MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE KLITCHKOS.
WRONG yet AGAIN why do the owners of the site let him continue to write
Lets all send a brief email to the owners saying either Scott stops wrighting or we stop viewing the site, who agrees with me??
Has anyone ever said any thing good about your aritcles
Is anyone really surprised to read this face saving BS article? I’ve been expecting this all day.
Gilfoid you’re a joke,find something else to do with your life and leave the writing of boxing articles to those who know more about it than you.
Oh my god, this article is hillarrious hahahaha i think he’s confused Haye with Dirrel. How many times did Haye grab? None, how many times did Dirrel? Countless!
Gilfoid, please, please, please, please, please stop writing. You are beyond terrible. You know NOTHING about boxing and are a borderline racist with your xenophobic view of British fighters. You promised to stop writing after Froch so please make sure you do this time. I enjoy this site but whomever the administrators are need to do something about this idiot.
good article Scott, complete nonsense ofcourse but ive been lookin forward to this one sll day.
give it a break, he mashed he’s right hand in the second and was fighting a giant 7 stone heavier than him, we will have to wait and see what he can really do against a normal sized heavyweight like ruiz, but i wouldnt give him much of a chance against vitali
what a joke david haye is. another great artice scott
its not running its called stick n move
once again another anti-british boxing writer..
i wish some of the arcticles writen on here would base a fight on the skills used & not on the location of the figters birth.
Haye got hit clean about twice in 12 rounds. that says it all!
Haye is good for the sport of boxing so you should be supporting him.
how can this bloke be aloud to write these articles he has no idea. I THOUGHT HAYE WOULD LOSE ACCORDING TO YOU so you was wrong but you havnt mentioned you were wrong FROCH BEAT DIRRRELL you were wrong and you havnt admitted it. the guy is always wrong
You are a fudging joke, get off this site you twange. You are a walking contradiction, the fight last nite was far more entertaining than the dirrell v froch farce, where dirrell ran and hid from a guy who was shorter and weighed the same.
In case you didnt know but Valuev is 7ft and 22 1/2 stone, Haye is 15st 8 and 6’3 bit of a difference.
I think if it had gone on for another minute, Haye would have stopped Valuev he was in big trouble after that clubbing left.
u know what…i absolutely hate scott gilfoid….if only this site had admin that would boot the writers who constantly write narrow minded, one sided, biased thoughts…they are not even articles…they are just ramblings of a fool
Oh dear, yet another predictably bitter post-fight article by Mr Gilfoid. Haye fought a winning fight, would you have dived in and lost all to make the fight a little more exciting?
Besides, there’s no such thing as excitement where fighters such as Valuev are involved. He tried to use his size to earn a slow, labouring win as he’s been doing his entire career.
Haye’s coming out party to America? To be honest, why would he care about crossing the pond? He’s the deserved WBA champ and travelled to controversial Germany to earn it. America offers no challengers even close to Haye at the moment. Ruiz? Johnson? Fat Arreola? If they want him they can travel to London to try and take his title. America doesn’t own the division.
Thought I smelled Scott !
Haye done a good job … and he largely won it with just one hand.
hi gilfoid not read your article just wanted to gloat ha ha wrong again you loser ha ha
the guy was 7 stone heavier wat do you expect wat was dirrel excuse he was the bigger man the difference between haye and dirrel was haye didn’t clinch hold and cry to the ref and he didn’t use coward tactics like falling to the deck instead of fighting on the inside and if haye is a track runner like you say then maybe dirrel should be his baton relay partner and try and finish the race instead of stumbling across the line the way he has become accustomed to
guys, dont feed this retard anymore, just ignore him and dont comment
Scott, it is time for you to stop making a fool of yourself,
and find another job.
Haye injured his hand in the opening few rounds and went on to win. Not only that but he smashed Valuev with a semi-weak left in the final round…if he was firing on full then Valuev would have been KO’ed. He chose winning tactics, and even with an injury, pulled it off and won.
Haye proved himself as a boxer, but Scott you’ve still yet to prove yourself as a decent article writer.
Haye is champion. You were wrong. End off. And I hope this will be the last article you ever write, I didn’t even bother reading it, i just wanted to comment.
That rich coming from you Scott given how you’ve raved about dirrell but when he came to fight Froch he did Carl lewis proud by running all night.
how can you say haye was running he was facing a giant then say dirrell won his fight when they both ran, haye fought well, i saw it at a draw but after round 12 haye definetly took it
lots of reaction David..soz i mean Scott! well done!
This article is appauling, floyd mayweather junior, the best boxer in the world fought like this against castillo, to be a great fighter you must adapt to win, even if that means being boring. I believe he did a tidy job and made valuev look ordinary.
Another crap and predictable review from Gilfoid.
How much longer is this chump going to be allowed to provide reviews for this site?
As for your predictable references back to Froch’s defeat of Dirrell – Froch hit Dirrell far more than Valuev hit Haye and Haye didn’t hold Valuev once.
Totally biased, predictable and useless sums up your work Gilfoid……WBA Heavyweight Champion of World in the former champs backyard sums up Hayes work last night.
Do us all a favour and stop providing reviews for the Boxing news site – you’re giving it a bad name. All those in favour say I !!!!
shut up Scott Gilfoid
Just swallow your pride and admit defeat!?!
well if you face a 7ft 2 inches gaint, what are you going to do, fight like MIKE TYSON.
the only few fighters to fight this dude straight on would be MIEK TYSON & SMOKING JOE.
every other boxer has to run, thats all they can do.
david haye hurt his right hand, so he couldent throw it as much,
the reason for the low output of punches because, in the past haye runs out of gas very very quickly. so he needed to take time out,
also if he didnt run, and fought straight on like previous warriors, MIKE TYSON & SKOMIN JOE, david haye would have been KO’D, the dude is very chinny,
but a world champ,. he will beat Wladamir.K by KO,
but he will get stopped by Vitali.K
scott you have made yourself look like a tool again pal he he he
Just swallow your pride and admit defeat!?!
What else can someone do that is 11 inches taller, 7 stone heavier?
To score points in boxing you need to have an effective attack, when Haye landed he rocked the giant, when Valuev landed(rarley) he didn’t as so much as hurt him. You also need and effect defence, name one occasion where Haye got caught? he didn’t he was far too quick for Valuev, when haye went on the offensive he landed on the big guy which would suggest that Valuevs defence wasn’t so good.
So as many many people have said before give it up Scott, all your guys have lost. STOP WRITING
Haye fought the only way to beat the giant if you are against fighters using a gameplan then you really are stupid.
is this muppet serious? Haye broke his hand in the 3rd and still landed meaningful shots whereas Dirrell ran away all fight, held and had his punches fall short yet you make out he’s dynamite, give it up scott if not for me then for the sake of boxing, its people like you who get it wrong that make people opt for MMA instead
Predictable Gilfoid. Just because he’s British. What do you want him to do, stand toe to toe with someone 98 pounds heavier? When Holyfield did the same thing I bet you were one of those saying he was robbed.
With my second last article I can’t talk my skills up. My latest however was better. How can you say that Dirrell fought well and Haye fought badly? They fought similar fights but Haye did so because he was fighting a giant.