Floyd Mayweather Jr. is overrated, period!

Pac has no chance to beat Mayweather.

Pac is an easy work for Mayweather.

Jorge Lugo: You say Floyd is over rated because he hasn’t “really” hurt his opponents? The sport is called boxing…the art of hitting without being hit. It’s not MMA, you want blood and knockouts 24/7, watch MMA…Maybe you could write about the most over rated MMA fighter. Floyd is the truth. When he beats Pacquaio I wonder what you would say then…Pacquiao wasn’t really hurt?!! That’s like watching a baseball no hitter and saying the winning pitcher is over rated because he didn’t strike everyone out….A win is a win.

To keep proving Cotto was overrated all along, two fights after Corley he faced Ricardo Torres(an unbeaten without any title fights experience) and that man exposed Cotto’s defense again, sending him down in that night, even though he lost, he showed the world Cotto wasn’t invincible. Two fights after that one, Paulie Malignaggi(another unknown) fell down in the 2nd and made it thru the 12th(something unexpected) losing on one card 155-112. Then he went up to 147 to face Carlos Quintana(another unknown at that time who came of beating the HBO prospect Joel Julio) for another vacant title, and obviusly he won. Then he faced Judah(6-3, 1 NC in his last 10 fights at that time) becoming his first real test by the experts(JUNE 2007 HELLO, THAT WAS ALMOST YESTERDAY) and he gave Judah a beating, an overrated beating because the stats shown that Judah also wasn’t the same, and he never was a 147 bs. fighter. His first real win of his pro career came 2 years ago against Mosley so please, DON’T TELL ME THAT COTTO IS NOT OVERRATED.

Mayweather is strictly business. Unfortunately thats what boxing is about these days. Fighting who you want him to fight doesn’t always make money sense for the fighter. Mayweather takes heat because he brings it on himself by contantly talking about money and that he is a businessman. Frankly I’m tired of hearing it as well. Boxing fans want to see fights, boxers want to see dollars. There’s lots of cherry picking going on. I have no doubt that Mayweather can beat Mosely, Cotto, Pacman, Burto, Clotley and Margarito. He better think twice before entering the ring with Paul Williams but it would be a fight that he could win if he did what Leonard did with Hearns. Lots of what ifs. I’m ready to see what’s going to happen in the coming months. Now Paul Williams wants a piece of Pacman. Pacman and Mayweather are the cash cows now.

Jorge, Most articles are a matter of opinion. Not everyone will see things your way. I for one mostly agree with you. Results don’t lie. Until the fight actually happens we will all analyze the “how come’s” and “what if’s”. in my eyes, Pacquiao’s style is the most entertaining. He is a boxer brawler with a heavy punch. Maybe not a “1 hit quiter” but surely a “combo knocker outer” Watching Mayweather is like having a lot of “fore play” with out a major “O”. again, I wont take away his talent. He is a master of his style, the best! what he is not is a spectacular, breathtaking, sensational fighter. Manny is all that and more. I don’t care if he has losses on his record. He is unbelievable. Even if he loses to Mayweather(most likely on points) he will still be a more breathtaking, sensational and spectacular phenom in the boxing world than Mayweather could ever be. I will hand it to Floyd. He has mastered a “cover up” counter punching style that is the BEST at Not getting hit. It is tailor made for anyone who comes at him. boxers open up to try and land a head shot on floyd and he just exploits the openings. That’s the way he fights. Nothing dramatic, just precision. From what I see. Floyd’s only openning where he gets hit is from straight lefts
from a southpaw (good for Manny) We saw that from the Zab fight. And if Zab didn’t try to take his head off everytime early in the fight, he could have peppered Mayweathers face all night. But that would have made for a boring fight. Zab tired out and Floyd got a second wind. Zab exerted him self at too high of a pace in the beginning, things might have been different if there was no drama stopping the fight late allowing for Floyd to recover. Just before all the drama, they were both on the same level as far as energy. but because Zab had exerted so much early, when time allowed for recovery Floyd was the one to benefit. as an athlete it was easy for me to see who was going to have more energy after all the ruckus. a rematch would have been easy for Zab… by the way I hate zab just as much as I do Floyd. I just saw it the way it was.
Hate is a strong word I am sorry, but at the same time I will give credit where credit is due.
Floyd surely is great at what HE does.
But he is overrated if you think he is THE BEST.
top 10 easily, of all time? not so sure, very arguable and debateable.
NEVER a P4P Champ, not with that style.
I know, create a “duck’ncover-run’nhide scardy cat” championship belt… FLOYD WOULD OWN THAT ONE! no one would come close! THE BEST OF ALL TIME FOR SURE!
taking nothing away from him at all.
hope the fight happens. the only way floyd will win is to not fight. He knows that.

RL-
Great point! They have put Manny on a pedistal that’s not so sturdy. Manny beat some great Mexican fighters that had already beat the heck out of each other as Floyd said. Then he beat ODLH, Hatton and Cotto. All of them coming off loses (excluding ODLH) that actually brought them down to earth. I don’t think they recovered from that mentally. The same thing most likely will happen to Mayweather after his first lost but it depends on the fighter. When you lose you have to immediately avenge your lost in a spectacular fashion like Paul Williams did against Quintana. That’s the only way to erase the ghost of defeat. Cotto didn’t get that opportunity nor did Ricky Hatton. I am one that thought Cotto could handle handle Pacman even though the ghost of Margarito still was in the back of his mind. Pacman suprised me being able to take Cotto’s punches. Boxing is an art. You have punchers and boxers. Regardless it is the art of hitting your opponent without being hit. It’s about scoring points using skill. This is what Mayweather does. Boxing is not a game of checkers-its a game of chess. I for one like to see boxers use skill as oppose to brute force. There is one exception and that was Mike Tyson. Tyson had skills as well as brute power. I do like Pacman because he reminds me a little of one of my all time favorites–Roberto Duran. I think if you want to know how the fight between Mayweather and Pacman will turn-out watch Sugar Ray Leonard vs Duran and you have it right there.

One last thing. Most of you are saying Mayweather is ducking fighters like Paul Williams etc. I don’t see ODLH, Cotto, Margarito, Berto, Clottley, Mosely or Pacman calling him out either. Shane Mosely beat Margarito so why not call out Paul William? Oh I know!! Cherry Picking. Please stop with the double standards. You sound stupid.

THANK YOU JORGE, MOST WRITERS AND REAL FANS ARE SAYING THE SAME THINGS. FLOYD CANNOT COMPETE IN THE HIGHEST LEVEL, SO HE HAS TO FIGHT B-FIGHTERS. HE IS WAY OVERRATED, AND HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE BEST FIGHTERS LIKE SHANE, COTTO, CLOTTEY, WILLIAMS ETC.

Zero doesnt mean a thing. It does not guaranty that the next fight or the next would still be zero. well, maybe if you keep holding on your balls you could keep that zero. LOL

chavez jr is undefeated at 41-0. he even has 1 more win than mayweather.

UNDEFEATED MEANS NOTHING!

I personally don’t think Mr. Lugo’s a Floyd Mayweather fan…its ok.. but its clear you don’t like the man because of what he’s accomplished (40-0 25 ko’s)in his career.. you don’t win 6 world titles in six divisions by being overrated and having hand picked opponents…now if you said Julio Cesar Chavez jr (41-0 31 ko’s was overrated and had hand picked opponents his whole career I would’ve agreed with you..the fact of the matter is that Floyd’s been dealing with writers like you trying to find out how bad he is instead of just acknowledging how great he is..he’s proven time and time again in all of his fights that he was the better man.. everyone like you prayed on his downfall to no avail…when he beats Pacquiao then you’ll just find another way to discredit him..he’s not ducking any body.. if the price is right moneys gonna fight(economic times). because the ball’s in his court now..and him and Pac Man are the cash cow’s so basically all roads lead to these two guys at the end of the day..you’re a hater but that’s your job as a writer..you’re worst than Skip Bayless from ESPN lol

For those who feel Cotto’s overrated, right a rticle on it and prove it!

Now, to what the writer says, Floyd with those skills he is not overrated please, anyone who cna be that good on defense and land that accurate can’t be overrated, period. Against Corrales PBF was the underdog in the odds(Mayweather knocked down Corrales 5 times) but you know what happened. Against Castillo, I think he lost the first but he easily won the second and Castillo was a great fighte that time. Against Corley he won easily(while Cotto was KO’d in Rd.3 but Corley’s non killer instinct and accuracy during that moment saved Cotto that night, please erase that fight from the discussion. Against Judah, yes he trailed after 6 rounds but he simply took care of business in the second half like he does almost in every fight(Cotto got credit to KO a Judah who was less than what he was after fighting PBF, so please call overrated Miguel Cotto, I can give you the info. for that).

all arguments heard; the verdict: STILL THE OVERRATED CHAMPION OF THE WORLD FLOYD MONEY MAYWEATHER!!

and for M, I got news for you… Steroids are counter productive for fighters. They do nothing for stamina, actually make it worse because they are for bursts of strength not for sustained energy. they cause muscle fatigue faster than normal. They cause boxers tire out and they can’t keep their hands up past the 4th round. Steroids enhance boxers performance? Only if you plan on knocking the guy out in the first 3 rounds. Maybe that is why evander had such a problem… Remember him training with Lee Haney? Evander’s Muscles looked freaky for a while… Look at Fernando Vargas, he was better befor roids. But they made him look all cut and in better shape than he could ever possibly look, but he got destroyed. (Years huh?) And M, while your at it, do you want to take away other boxers legacy’s because of the use of coke between rounds? That actually increased energy and stamina. Coke over steroids anyday. poor excuse to duck Mosley sorry… better excuse to fight him…

Hey M, I have news for you, Steroids are counter productive for boxers unless you’re a one hit quiter and don’t plan on going past the 4th round. It is counter productive against stamina. Look at fernando vargas, he was better before steroids, and after taking them he looked like a bodybuilder all cut… he looked like he could destroy people, but he got destroyed… Steroids slow you down and cause fatigue in muscles very fast. It is for a burst of energy anarobic… so while your at it why don’t you take away sugar ray leonards legacy for using coke between rounds… that actually will increase energy and stamina… hmmmm… poor excuse to duck Mosely. In fact a better excuse to fight him.

Who else was there when PBF was coming through the divisions?? He fought the best around at the time. Cotto’s weakness are now apparent to anyone. Moseley took steriods and any fighters nutritionist will their fighter that the effects of steriods take years to wear off in terms of muscle strength. Shane’s a great fighter but anything giving you an unfair edge in a sport where people can die in the ring is a mark that will always stick and I don’t blame PBF for not taking that fight. Curious how so many people harp on about Margarito’s loaded gloves and say Cotto should fight him again but so many people ignore this when saying PBF should fight Shane. Steriods take years, wraps come off the hands in seconds.

What makes a fighter? It is somebody who wants to fight anybody to win (no ducking).

What makes a good fighter? It is somebody who is not afraid to face anybody.

What makes a great fighter? It is somebody who stands to fight again after losing (strenght of the will and the heart).

Does Mayweather has these traits? I’m not sure if he will flinch when he feels pain.

I will always hate on Floyd, but I will not take away his talent… top 10 for sure and capable of beating anyone in his path… but I keep it real. It is not fun to watch… (This is My opinion, and probably shared by most) He is great, but not that great…
A Great Fighter is one who comes to fight even if he has a few losses on his record.

40-0 doesn’t equal Greatness… It’s how you obtained that 40-0… Manny could be 40-20, and still be considered GREAT!
it’s what you do and how you win those fights that matters…

Bluv, …never lost a fight? ok hear this. with Floyd, there is never a fight anyways.. so answer this… how can you win a fight, when there Wuz no fight? hahaha.
I still give mayweather props, still a top 10, but far from GREAT. Manny is Great. He may lose 5 fights in his career to Mayweathers 0, but Manny is a Great Fighter! Mayweather is a Great “nonFighter”
yeah I like great boxers, I love to see those who hit and cant be hit… but Mayweathers style is ridiculous…

How dare u say this man (PBF)is overrated when PACMAN fought the same fighters.PACMAN is a very good fighter but lack the skills it take to beat Floyd.Can somebody please tell me how do you go abuut beating someone that never loss a fight.How would u go about that. You can’t just think you are going to go in the fight throwing a lot of punches because thats what Floyd want. Don’t be mad because he talk a lot but can back it up.Floyd should get the bigger purse because more people will come to see him loose than see PacMan period.

i cant believe what all your guys are saying.
if pacman is so great and so good,why does he and his team always want a catch weight?
why not fighting as a true welterweight?
and for floyd,i dont think he is ducking anybody,but i think that floyd and pacman should fight at 147 and with a 50 50 split.
but the truth is pacman floyd and shane are ducking paul williams,why they dont fight him at welterweight?

Forget comparing Mayweather to Pacquiao for a secound. Shane Mosley is better than Mayeather anyday!

Pacquiao vs Cotto
Reach =67” Reach =67” /23 ‘ ½”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’8”
Weight =144 Weight =145
Tonight weight =? Tonight weight =?
Weight Diff =? Weight Diff =?
I do not have the weight the night they fight.

130 lbs Super Featherweight
Pacquiao vs Marquez
Arm length =25” Arm length =24”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’7”
Weight =129 Weight =130
Tonight weight=145 Tonight weight =141
Weight Diff =16 Weight Diff =11
Pacman has reach advantage, more heavier than Morales

135 Light Weight
Pacquiao vs Diaz
Reach =25” Reach =23.5”
Height =5’6 ½” height =5’6”
Weight =134.5 Weight =135
Tonight weight =147 Tonight weight =148
Weight Diff =12.5 Weight Diff =13
Pacman has reach advantage, height advantage, Weight almost even.

Pacquiao vs Barera
Arm length =25” Arm length = 24 1/2”
Height =5’6 ½” height = 5’6”
Weight =130 Weight =130
Tonight weight =144 Tonight weight =138
Weight Diff =14 Weight Diff =8
Pacman has a weight advantage, reach advantage , height advantage

Pacquiao vs Morales II
Arm length =25” Arm length =24 ”
Height =5’6 ½” height = 5’8”
Weight =128 Weight =130
Tonight weight =140 Tonight weight =140
Weight Diff =12 Weight Diff =10
Pacman has reach advantage, put more weight

In Roach statement that Cotto have problem of losing weight. First Cotto was defeated by Margarito who has a bricks in his globe, then he fall in Roach trick. Miguel Cotto accepted a catch weight of 145lbs in favor of Pacquio because he want to prove to the boxing world that he could win the fight to a person who gain weight and power, while he is losing and draining, that’s lead him to his most painful defeat in his entire career, But even with his condition Cotto give Pacquiao a good beating, that’s indication that, in his real natural weight Pacquiao will suffer the most worse defeat in his entire career. When Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard fought theirs no catch weight.

After winning the belt to Diaz Pacquiao became a mega buck to the media, magazine and etc…. Oscar DeLa Hoya see all of this opportunity, so Dela Hoya made the most interesting match in his carier to challenge Pacquiao that will make a megabuck, but certainly on Pacquiao advantage, and the next is Hatton in Pacquiao advantage also to be sure, the goose that lay a golden egg will keep on producing a golden egg. The last of this victim is Cotto as we all observe. Do you believe that a man who could knock a big guy, could not even shake a small guy even an inch and in the nine round doesn’t know were he is. All of this certainly will not happened without the help of the big guy who really play an important role on this game

your an idiot paquiao is dukin a third fight with marquez and he wont take the mosely fight either so hes duks people to idiot

who r ya!! who r ya!!!! the son of gilfoid is alive and kicking.anybody who states floyd is over-rated needs locking back up in the mental institution.pretty boy is pure quality and is what the great art of boxing is all about.

its already been proven that mp can get outboxed..what do you think is going to happen when mp fights the fighter with defense second to none ??? when you are a knock out type of fighter and most of the time your opponents are coming at you it suites your style perfect..fm wont be standing toe to toe ..i think mp’s handelers will price themselves out of the fight , because they and MOST boxing pros know mayweather will give a boxing clinic !!

Duel. I can agree with that somewhat. But if you know anything about boxing, styles makes fights. Pacman has never faced a defensive wizard. Floyd has faced a buzz saw in Zab Judah but Judah faded. Pacman doesn’t fade so that’s what intrigues me about this fight. What we can say is this is a good test for them both and it can only be settled in the ring. We bloggers can work our fingers to death debating, but as you say, the real proving ground is in the ring.

Lugo, ask Marquez if Mayweather is over-rated. As a matter of fact–jump in the ring with him and come back and tell us if he is over-rated. Its easy for some to sit back in their laced panties and say a boxer is over-rated. Until you are able to do better shut-up!

wrong. Mayweather is not entertaining at all. he’s a fighter who’s afraid to fight. he ducks all competition who can challenge him, then fights like a *itch against overmatched opponents.

Mayweather is overrated and one of the best at the same time.
I thought Pac against cotto was unbelievable, Pac is one of the best of all time and that fight proved hes got a chin too.

Both these guys are held covered by the others shadow, they just need to fight.

Good sensible article.. Better than Manuel Perez and Liam Santiago… The author had answers to the comment..

sorry but pacman will not beat mayweather its the same old story wich ends with losing to PBF, pacman will give it a good go but he will swing and miss all night and when he tires floyd will pick him off, as they say you cant beat what you cant hit and that is what mayweather does not get hit, you cant say he is over rated because hes not truth is everyone knows this, floyd is fast accurate and the best in the world defensivley, pacman is taylor made for floyd and i think floyd may even stop him late on ?

the fact that he has ducked people does not say anything about how good he is in the ring. Though it speaks volumes about his heart and desire.

And to say that the majority of people he has fought have been beatin’ before?… Are you saying people who have been beat are not great fighters?? If your not, then what are you saying? Or were you struggling with your word count and just through that one in as filler?

@freddy
what lesson shuod mayweather teach pacquiao??
i bet its a “running from opponent lesson” lol

jurge lugo you are sittin there critising mayweather as if ur the p4p best lets get one thing staright he would slap u about like a little girl, secondly wer exactly are u from?? beacuse u say people like mayweather are considerd coward were ur from?? u are aware that mayweather senior got shot while holding mayweather jnr?? so am guessing he wasnt exactly from the suburb, thirdly why dosent pcciou come oput like hatton n claim he wants mayweather…? u cannot sit there n slate a boxer who has neva lost, never really been hurt in a postion were he cannot come bak from,…he is skillfull as he is entertaining..i personally think u have a deranged view, mayweather will teach pacciou a lesson….something called boxing…

Chico won titles after he fought Floyd, so why wasn’t he the same before fighting Floyd even though he was undefeated at the time

Mayweather has always been OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!He appear to me as a Circus Clown or the County Fair main attraction.He seems to be full funny tricks.

Mayweather is no. 1 P4P Champion.. FACT!!! I can’t believe this is even being discussed!!???

You seem to want to discredit mayweathers opponents after Mayweather beat them, whereas at the time they were seen as big challenges for mayweather. So once Mayweather beats them then they weren’t that good after all? Who exactly has Pacquiao beat then? You can’t say Oscar or Hatton, as Floyd apparently deserves no credit for beating them, so who exactly has Pacquiao beat? Miguel Cotto, and no one else. The truth is, he’s the same pacquiao that only just beat Marquez a year ago, he’s just been very cleverly matched against guys that are willing to come at him and trade. Freddie knows if he puts him in against guys with shaky defences, slower guys, flat footed guys and guys that don’t get out the way of punches, then Pac will hit them frequently. Mayweather is going to do everything that Marquez did plus more, while Pac hits alot of thin air and gloves.

Pimp C – enough with this undefeated crap…Julio Ceasar Chavez Jr. is undefeated…anyone calling him the best? Marquez came up two weight divisions to fight Maywaether at the age of 36 which obviously slowed him down and his punches had no pop. Marquez at 130 is completely different than Marquez at 144…but I guess Mayweather nuthuggers DON’T SEE THAT.

Theres no need for a Pacquiao VS. Marquez 3…
Marquez was been knocked by Pacquiao 4x. Marquez is a counterpuncher and a babypuncher just like Mayweather trying to survive in the ring and not fight toe 2 toe. These 2(pbf & jmm) are trying to win by points. Pac VS. JMM 3 is a waste of time, JMM was been beaten twice by Pac. Marquez should fight Valero instead and stop crying like a baby for rematch, maybe it will happen but not in this lifetime..

Jorge Lugo – ‘Imma tell you like I tell the “HATERS”. You dont agree with what I am saying then prove me wrong!!!!’ – And you don’t understand what im trying to say in my comments?

In my comments ive proven that Mayweather isnt overrated in just one sentence. Mayweather is a multiple time and weight world champion, go jump in a boxing ring yourself and try to achieve what both Mayweather and Pacquiao have done. It’s easy to point the finger that a boxer is overrated, when you are outside the ring. Same goes for anyone else, go jump in the ring with Mayweather then call him overrated.

In my opinion you have been proven wrong on a number of occasions in the comments, especially by Daveyboy. You have just chosen to ignore it.

Mayweather isnt overrated

how is he over rated and all the people u names and forgot to name was the top fighters at the time Diego Corrales 0 loses,Jesus Chavez 1 lose,Jose Luis Castillo 4 loses, Phillip N’dou 1 loses, DeMarcus Corley 2 loses,Arturo Gatti 6 loses,Sharmba Mitchell 4 loses, Carlos Baldomir 9 loses,Ricky Hatton 0 loses and which undefeated did pac man beat and zab only one 4 rounds to 8 look at the scorecord and pac man was hurt by marquez alot while he barely hit mayweather and how corrales not the same he never been beaten and who have pac man fought since you say hatton and de la hoya was a nobody lol

Definition of Boxing

If Pacquiao is the P4P
-Boxing is all about real fighters

If mayweather is the P4P
-Boxing is all about ruuning away from opponent. In short, COWARDICE.

AFAIK

Mayweather doesn’t really care about his legacy, its all about the “Money”. That is fine though, but until he takes on better challenges, he will never reach Ali status. He will simply be remembered as someone with great defensive skills that was never fully tested therefore he will easily be forgotten.

I know people keep saying that boxing is a sport of hitting and not getting hit but the majority of people watching appreciate a good back and forth exchange. I don’t think anybody can deny that Mayweather produces more action outside the ring than inside while Pacquiao does his talking in the ring. Comparing Mayweather’s last bout to last weekend’s bout, I am very satisfied and feel that I got my $60 worth on the ppv for the Pacquiao fight.

It’s Mayweather’s own doing there is controversy and doubt about his greatness. Simply, all he had to do is shut up, put up and make believers out of us. Only then will he get respect, win or lose. Pacquiao, on the other hand, continues to gain more fans and new believers because he continues to amazed and defy the odds.

Ok I am going to address this a few more times n thats it… Daveyboy, no amount of the truth can take away how impressed I was with your argument and the way you worded it! Truthfully speaking, although my idea of what type of fighter floyd is may be opinionated, it is still factual that Mayweather who has been a welterweight for a long time, has not fought Shane Mosley, Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto, Andre Berto or any known or up and coming welterweight fighter or even great fighter besides 1 or 2 in his record. Secound- Fair is fair, and the feedback shouldnt determine the truth but as history in life proves itself… If it smells, looks and acts like a dog, then what is it? The fact here is there are enough people here that agree with me. Leaving the general idea of Mayweather’s career to be somewhat suspect! As for Mayweather’s career in the 130lb division. The fact that you feel or view his opponents as top contenders is one thing but in the end its the history of the fighters careers that determine how great they are!

Hey Jojo,

Why do you consider this the best article of all time?

This is probably one of the most angry pieces of crap I have ever read. So your saying simply because
Manny beat your guy Cotto, he is so good Floyd cant beat him? Thats Rubbish. Both Manny and Floyd are top fighters, and deserve allot of credit for what they have done. Like him or not Floyd has guts, He fought guys that were often bigger than him on his way up, he fought with broken hands, broken ribs, and did his job without complaining.

Stop all the hating, If your so sure he is overrated, put some money on it , it should be easy money then. I will be betting on floyd so you can take mine.

Author

Maybe it’s the editors ? seeing as you are one of very few on here to comment after submitting it doesn’t make sense for you to block. Respect.

Firstly – factual in your eyes – that’s not factual is it? That’s called opinion.
Secondly – Using the feedback comments as evidence to truth – we all know better than that. There are articles submitted on here by writers not as good as you where their feedback is good, that is not truth either.

The point I was trying to make is, couldn’t you raise the standard of writing by making your reasoning more sound?

Not many will deny that the public would have/will want Floyd to face the most dangerous welterweights out there, but to dismiss his WHOLE career with baseless comments such as 2nd TIER opponents his WHOLE career?

To justify this you must at least offer some alternatives from the time he became a World Champion back in 1998 until turning welterweight and account for the following:

All his defences at 130LB were against the top contenders – if disagree name alternatives during that 1998 – 2001 period (taking into account he did activly seek a 1999 bout with the then lightweight champion – Sugar Shane – who was seeking a bigger money Fight with Oscar – no suggestion of ducking BTW)
Is it reasonable for you to suggest Corrales was not that good just because now, some 8 years later you are looking at his career in hindsight? – good historical writing would require anyone to place themselves in that moment – and the real truth is the following -
Corrales was 33-0, with 30KO and was deemed to provide Floyd with his biggest test, if not destroy him. If he was just a 2nd tier opponent are you suggesting he shouldn’t have fought him? if not – who else from that era/weight at that time should he have fought and why?
After his CASTILLO fights at 135, Casamayor, Johnson and Lazcano were all deemed the top opponents – all were called out repeatedly by Floyd and avoided him – what alternatives would you have suggested other than to seek a 140Lb fight with Kostya Tszyu? which Floyd did for a number of years. You make no mention of the years Floyd spent chasing top opponents around – why not?
The Gatti fight was a HBO demand, the popularity of Gatti was used as a PPV for Floyd that would bring him into the big money after 7 years as a world champion – what alternatives could have done this once Hatton had beaten Tszyu in 2005?
You have not taken into account the public demands at the time and your work is piece of revisionist history.
You make no mention of the demands and excitment (at the time) of the preposed JUDAH match up, and how Baldomir almost de-railed the party with his victory of Judah, nor the comments in boxing circles that Floyd was ducking the legitimate, bigger, stronger true welterweight champion in Baldomir by going ahead with the Judah fight.
Do you really believe if he hadn’t of fought the then WBC welterweight champion at that time, he wouldn’t of today been acccused of ducking him?
Can you blame Floyd (or Pacman for that matter) in seeking his two 2007 high grossing fights with ODLH and Hatton – and as a fight fan at that time what viable alternatives were there to satisfy the public demand? (Taking into account a proposed pre-Oscar fight with Mosley was rejected by Shane on toothache grounds?)

You make mention of weight issues (marquez) but no mention of weights Floyd has given up in the past, nor fight night weights (Hatton has always been BIGGER in fight night weight than Floyd….), is it unreasonable to expect you to be fair in your analysis?

You also make no mention of boxing politics and promoters in the influence of a career.

Floyd can be rightly critised with some of his choices – after defeating Hatton he could have fought the pre-Margarito Cotto and been highly praised if victorious – no doubt – but your article dismissing his whole career as overated exposes your unreasoned points and they are far from the TRUTH my man. Addressing the many variables would have made it a higher standard and much more reasoned article. As it is, I stand by my original comments – it comes across as subjective angry rantings rather than objective and pursuasive analysis.

Respect.

Haha! Hey Jorge,

Real boxing fans can write unbiased/unprejudiced articles…you are so Prejudiced man! You ain’t no real boxing fan…you a brawling fan…

I just want to thank the real boxing fans for agreeing with me. It shows im not alone!

hey jorge lugo,

All I have to say is this…you are obviously a Floyd-hater. You sayin that Floyd is overrated? He got mad skills man…he’s not a K.O. artist like Manny but he has great accuracy, defense and makes his fights look easy. He boxes—and it is the sport of boxing…hit and not get hit…otherwise it would be called brawling.

Yeah man,Manny and Floyd both weighed 106 at a young age, it just so happened that Floyd moved up faster than Manny…Manny has matured and isn’t small anymore…he even looked bigger against morales, de la hoya and hatton on fight night. So stop the B.S. about weight…

If you are so confident that Mayweather is over-rated—implying that Manny will beat him…then make a deal with me that you will shut your damn mouth/stop writing articles when Floyd takes Manny to school.

Si?

Uno

Guest,

Lol what the hell r u talking about? LOL like I got time to block people… Look at the comments I am to busy shutting people up! Imma tell you like I tell the “HATERS”. You dont agree with what I am saying then prove me wrong!!!!

Jseaport,

Hopefully Pac fights Mosley sometime down the road. Atleast you know Pac is known for fighting real fighters!

Russ,

Do your research CORRECTLY, Shane never ducked Floyd, he had 3 fights in a row and then Mayweather challenged… N even if or whatever. The fact is Shane went to Mayweathers face in front of the world and called him out! Mayweather hasnt said anything since! As for Cotto, if you fought somebody in ur backyard and they get caught cheatin why would u agree to fight them in there backyard? Idiot! As for Pac, I wrote an article on how he ducked Mosley but atleast hes ducking Mosley to fight other true welterweights!!! Af for Oscar, Tito fought him already so how would he be duckin him by not fighting again when he lost? As for Cotto and Margarito, Oscar opted out to figt Pacquiao! Hey since u like to b.s. so much, You next article should be called “I Dont Know nothing!” lol!!

So if that’s the case, then Pacman is a cherry picker as well. Roaches camp want no parts of Paul Williams and Shane Mosley.

Usually, we’d wait for a boxer to have his first loss or if the boxer has never been in a mega fight, then we’d call him overrated. Since Mayweather has been some mega fights, it’s hard to say he’s underrated until someone beats him. Right now, I’m not sure who beats him at welter (including Pac).

Floyd DUCKED the in-your-face challenge by Sugar Shane. And they are on the same size.

Daveyboy,

I have been open to people’s comments all day and I appreciate the compliment on the previous articles. I also do apologize if this article didn’t inspire you like the rest. But I stand by what I wrote and it’s all factual in my eyes. There’s no way any fighter can say there the best without fighting real fighters! That’s it. Unfortunately, for you there seems to be a majority decision that agrees with me. Just being honest!

AMEN!…absolutely correct…his a fraud and he’s been fooling people for so long…Ring magazine ranking him at #2 is absurd..but I’m not supprised because of his affiliation with GBP which is owner of that magazine…

Pacquiao vs Marquez once and for all to shut up the Mexican (Manuel Perez & Liam Santiago two cowards) is what I want..

Author – your hate blinds you and this article is something Scott Gilfoid, Manuel Perez or Liam Santiago would have produced, which is a shame as some of your previous work was of a higher standard. This piece of work is just subjective rantings and you come across angry and forceful, rather than objective and persuasive.

This is why I See and Like About the Aricle and the writer, Mr. Jorge Lugo Back what he wrote and still have time to answer all you guys comments.. It’s not like Manuel Perez and Liam Santiago, they duck and run after they write whatever non sense on thier aritcle..
Underrated, overrated or what not.. At least Jorge Lugo has a balls to counter argue all you guys comments..
WELL DONE Mr. Jorge Lugo ..

Maybe you can teach Mr Perez and Liam S. some sense and knowledge about boxing..
I just hope the bout between Mayweather and PAC will happen.. Boxing need another good fight.. Boxing is not a dying sport anymore.. All sorts of FANs woke-up after the Cotto and Manny bout….
PEACE YOU ALL…

Mayweather is a multiple time and weight world champion.
Pacquiao is a multiple time and weight world champion.
In theory you are saying both are overrated?
They are both the best of there era who will hopefully meet up next.
They were both 106lbs when they were 16 years old. Manny turned professional, but Mayweather couldnt until he was 18. Mayweather moved up the divisions a lot quicker than Pacquiao as his body matured. Now Pacquiao has been moving up the divisions quickly over the past 2-3 years as his body has matured into a full blown light weler/welterweight.
As for Mayweather ducking and dodging the best. It is not a case of Mayweather dodging the best welterweights, its never as simple as that. All the blame cannot be put on one fighter, there are many factors in creating bouts.
If Mayweather is said to be dodging the best, is Pacquiao dodging a third bout with Marquez? Did Pacquiao hand pick David Diaz and not take on the number 1 in the division…did he duck the best?

You can come up with a lot of theories, for or against boxers.

You should have really done some research on the sport before you took this job as a boxing writer…but im sure those days watching previous bouts on youtube have helped you out and gave you the confidence to take the job.

Mayweather is like Chris Farley in Beverly Hills ninja!

The fact is,when you are looking to make money, whether you can win or not you want to fight the big money fight. floyd is a money draw, thats why margarito wanted that fight. not because he could beat him but for the money. Mayweather was ducked for years when there was no money to be made by fighting him. dont be ignorant. boxing is a business.

Sooner the fight happens the better, stops all this mess.

How about two great boxers of different styles yet to meet?

Its the fight everyone wants to see, it has to happen, everyone can speculate for as much as they want but the only way for it to happen is that if someone makes it happen, now make it happen.

Now Gilturd you reading? Whats happnin?? All this happening happening, somethings bound to happen

Arshaid,

Agreed I can respect that. I will be looking forward to your article!

i am a daily visitor of this site so il write a reply only when i see yours and since im going first you do the same but make sure you dont write a reply the same day or day after. each article has to be online for atleast 2 days each then a reply can come whenever.
by the way good your doing this
it will be interesting and it will cast a shadow on other writers on this site for a while who write nonsense

Jorge Lugo is a clown… People would laugh at Mayweather’s accomplishment and then turn around and cheer Pacuiao’s accomplishments?

What has Pacquiao done that Floyd has not done? Oh oh oh, he beat Miguel Cotto… According to Jorge Lugo (THE Expert Himself), after a fighter has been through a tough stretch in his career (ie. Shane Mosley), he should take a vacation and not immediately fight another top tier fighter… So in essence, Miguel Cotto was a battered and worn fighter and Bob Arum threw him to the wolves because he wanted to set Pacquiao up for this Super Fight with Floyd??

Floyd is right when he says that the whole boxing game is about him and who can beat him… There was no storyline behind Cotto vs. Pacquiao except, if Pacquiao wins, he could be set up for a potential Super Fight with Floyd…

ok i will do
is there anyway we can announce this??
it would be good if all the people on this site know what is going on and not just a bunch of random articles
i dont know when exactly i will have my first done but the article will be called JORGE LUGO vs IBRAR ARSHAID- PACQUIAO vs MAYWEATHER ok??

It cannot be denied that Mayweather has skills. He is one of the best shadow boxer of all time – very technical. But he needs to prove that he can apply his skills in the actual fight. He needs to fight somebody who “really” fights back. Not those smaller guys.
I think that he has to fight Mosley first before he even deserves Pacquiao. The only thing that makes people think he deserves a match with Pacquiao is because he makes so much noise in promoting himself as a good boxer.

What do u mean 2 articles each??? I write one on Manny and You on Floyd and then we write a response article to each?

Duh…
But I still think Floyd Mayweather will beat Manny Pacquiao. Styles make fights and I think Manny style (dropping his hands and charging forward) is taylor made for Floyd Mayweather. I don’t think Manny will break Floyd’s defensive guard and I think it will be a typical boring Mayweather fight. The general theme in all Floyd fights is that he doesn’t look impressive in most of them. When Floyd isn’t dominating little guys, Floyd will do just enough to win and not put himself at risk. I do think Floyd will eventually lose but like Floyd says, “Manny isn’t the one”. I think the guy who will defeat Mayweather will be Paul Williams. He has the size, strength and speed to break Mayweather’s guard.

I totally agree with this article!! let me say it loud for everybody! MAYWEATHER IS OVERRATED!

of course everyone wants to fight mayweather now. Look at all the money to be made. dont be stupid.

U know what else suks?? U got real boxing fans posting there opinions and saying how frustrated they are simply because certain fighters are too scared to fight others! Seriously, thats what’s goin on here and this is why boxing needs to change!!!

He didnt duck anyone. He fought everyone with a WBC title. THE REAL TITLE! not the trinkets

Ok You make no sense!!! You talk about Haton and Delahoya like they were great fighters! Delahoya really past his prime and almost beat Mayweather and Hatton was garbage! A Miguel Cotto of today would beat Hatton and delhoya in one night! Stop hating the real fighters! N I went to that link, what they dont show is that Mosley had 3 fights in a row and then Mayweather challenged him. Still, Mosley agreed to fight him just asked for some time to his own, which is what every fighter should do after every fight! What u want? Him to fight Mayweather tired? I dont think so!!

Why are the fighters good when Pacquiao fights them but not when Mayweather fights them? You dont seem to stop and think about what youre saying. Pacquiao beat the same two guys, Hatton, and De La Hoya. Those where the fighters he beat to get p4p title. Now Pacquiao beat Cotto, ok he gets alot of credit for doing that. You are saying that Mayweather ducks people, lets see who he fights next. Cotto had opportunity to fight Mayweather a few years ago, but Cotto wasnt ready, he needed more experience. It wasn’t because Mayweather ducked him. Mayweather will beat anybody they put in front of him. The guy is untouchable.

You also know whats funny!!! For every Mayweather fan trying to back up his claim you have 3-4 real boxing fans thanking me for a good article! Whats that tell you? At the end of the day truth speaks for itself!

You miss the point! Mayweather is not a good fighter because he doesnt fight good fighters!!!!! Its so easy not to get his where your not fighting good fighters!!! I think the reason real mayweather fans are so quick to respond is cause they know the truth and just can’t deal with it. Just let it go!

You are a fan of real fighters? So Mayweather is a fake fighter right? You need to learn about boxing. The art of boxing is to hit and not get hit. And Mayweather is an artist at that. He’s a perfect example of a pure boxer. I hope that Pacquiao and Mayweather do fight so that Mayweather can put on a boxing exhibition and shut all of you up.

Yes Pimp C just makes himself look dumb, Baldomir was not a true welterweight! Do ur RESEARCH…. Its like he doesnt know what that word means!

Mayweather will go down like Cotto. He can run but he cant hide from Pacman’s guided missile like fist.

just like i’ve been telling everyone who thinks floyd’s the best.He’s OVERRATED!!!

this write-up means mayweather can be cover for national enquirer

Tell me this, if Mayweather hasn’t beat anyone, than why is it such a big deal that Pacman beat Oscar and Hatton? Floyd already beat both of them, so I guess that means they weren’t even as good when they fought Pacman as they were when they fought Floyd. This article is a complete load of crap, and I can’t wait until Floyd “money” Mayweather destroys Pacman.

Pacquiao wins against real fighters? And Mayweather wins against fake fighters right? What put Pacquiao where he is now was beating the same 2 guys that Mayweather beat. De La Hoya and Hatton. Jorge Lugo is obviously a die hard Pacquiao fan, probably a Phillipino. Mayweather is the best p4p fighter. When Pacquiao beats Mayweather he can claim that title.

Pimp stick to Pimping if you think Mayweather has an excellent resume.

Oh, I forgot, baldamir is a welterweight. You know, the guy that ignorant critics like you, said Mayweather was ducking, cause he chose to fight Judah for more money first. He cleaned baldimir, DLH, undefeated hatton, and marquez later. Didn’t pacman lose to marquez? I guess since the judges didn’t see it, it didn’t happen. We sure know, Mayweather/Marquez wasn’t even close.

This writer is an idiot!!!! Judah is a welterweight you idiot. When Mayweather knocks out pacman. What excuse will you have for his 41st win. Mayweather is 40-0 with a excellent resume, HATERS…….

Officer Ricky,

Again like other comments made. You back Mayweather by just trying to talk trash. You make no factual claims and no proof against him having real fights and fighting real fighters…. Against Pacuiao I say he goes down in 10! N I stand by that as well…

officer ricky go back to your cell!! you albino monkey

ohh. you are all monkeyyyyyyyys! Pinoy Monkeyyyyyyyyyys!!!

Lol, it’s a sad day when people hate on Pacquiao for actual winning against real fighters and praise Mayweather Jr. for fighting nobody! Floyd Mayweather couldn’t beat a Joshua Clottey on his best day! N I stand by that!

Some very very good points and not 4 mayweather

I think your being unfair. Yes he’s dodged fights, but so have many fighters, look at Jones jr and Calzaghe in the late 90s and Haye very recently against Vitali. But you can’t deny he’s got an amazing defence and very quick hands. He’s a talented fighter but he’s just not one of the best as i think what makes a great fighter is taking the tough fights and if you lose, avenging them, that’s the sign of a great fighter.

amen.

good article jorge!

yeah, homie don’t play dat. the boy ducks people. he’s garbage and he would get wizizizipped by PacMan.

Lol all you did was give the p4p rating to back up your claim cause what I said in the article is the truth! Lol!