Cotto vs. Pacquiao does 1.25 million buys
November 20th, 2009
By Dave Lahr: The Miguel Cotto vs. Manny Pacquiao bout brought in 1.25 million pay-per-view buys, which is good in terms of 2009 fights, but doesn’t beat some of the past fights involving Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya. Overall, the bout, which turned out to be one-sided fight with Pacquiao dominating the action and stopping a beat up looking Cotto in the 12th, earned $70 million in pay-per-view money.
Many people said before the fight that Cotto wasn’t the same fighter he was before. Indeed, Cotto didn’t look at all good in his last fight, a 12 round split decision win over Joshua Clottey in June. However, that didn’t stop Pacquiao and his team from targeting Cotto. It actually might have made Cotto more of an appealing opponent for Pacquiao, because in some cases when a fighter looks too good – read: Shane Mosley and Paul Williams – none of the other fighters want to fight them.
Williams, after being unable to get a major fight with the big time fighters in the welterweight division, was forced to move up in weight last year to get the kinds of bouts that he was unable to land while fighting in the welterweight division. In Mosley’s case, he’s been ignored by the major players in the welterweight division since beating Antonio Margarito by a 9th round stoppage earlier this year in January. Mosley attempted to get a fight with Pacquiao, but there was understandably no interest from Pacquiao and his team.
The next fight that boxing fans are clamoring for is Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Pacquiao. However, the bout won’t get made unless the two sides can agree on cut of the revenue. Mayweather wants the larger share of the pie and probably won’t be satisfied for 50% or less. He’s been the big star in fights against Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya and Juan Manuel Marquez and probably won’t agree to take less than the bigger chunk of the revenue.
Also, Freddie Roach, the trainer of Pacquiao, will likely try to have the fight take place at a catch weight and that will also be a problem for this fight. If Mayweather does agree to fight the bout at a catch weight, which I doubt he will, he might choose to ignore it altogether.
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PAC SONG TO FLOYD
They asked you if you’ll fight me
And you choked on your reply
I’d rather Arum deal with you
Than mislead you with a lie
And who am I to judge you,
On what you say or do
The fans are now beginning
To see the real you..
And someday when we tats
My LEFT will be too much
That you have to close your eyes
Where do you hide?
I wanna pound you til you’re white
‘Til your face breaks down and cry
I wanna beat you
‘Til you dream and say, goodnight.
You think you are a strategist
That you can insult my pride
But through your insecurities
You’re ZERO loss seemed right
You’re just another fighter
So far from what is true
An overrated boxer
Who never gives his due
And someday when we tats
My RIGHT will be too much
That you have to close your eyes
Where do you hide?
I wanna pound you til you’re white
‘Til your face breaks down and cry
I wanna beat you
‘Til you dream and say, goodnight.
At times I’d like to break you
And drive you to your knees
The fans would like to watch you
And see your first defeat
Your huggers understand you
And we know how hard they try
I’ve watched your Dad protect you
And your Uncle loves to smile :biglaugh:
My coach thinks your a loser
Still searching for a break
You think your odds are better
But then the public bets AGAINST!
And someday when we tats
My SPEED will be too much
That you have to close your eyes
Where can you hide?
I wanna pound you til you’re white
‘Til your face breaks down and cry
I wanna beat you
‘Til you dream and say, goodnight!
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Dean, hate to say it but you’re nuts. Pac is on the same level. The difference is pac is willing to step up and fight anyone. Mayweather likes to talk himself up. If he wants to step up then the money will come cause everyone wants a good fight with good fighters. Don’t know if you know but Manny isn’t the only threat to Floyd. Paul, Shane, I mean we could go on and on. And those guys wan’t be asking for a catch weight. They just want to fight. May doesn’t want to fight he’s just mad that someone else is considered among the greatest of all time. Floyds a dirt bag. I didn’t give to f@##$ about him before but now he IRRATATES THE SH&* OUT OF ME. You want to talk about great fighters, well great fighters take challenges and have enough confidence to think they can win. Does’nt look that way with floyd. He’s finding every way and excuse to wiggle his way out of it. Be the GOAT and step up without the excuses.
when floyd wins the decision , will all yall finally give floyd at least some respect …probably not ..then it will be back to , “there he is fighting little guys again” or whatever the latest excuse is ..love him or hate him hes the best fighter of this generation.. manny is a great fighter also but hes not on the same skill level as mayweather !!
L2ks,i hope manny will defend his title to any contender out there..regardless of their height,reach,record and reputation….the most competitive fight for manny that i’d like to see is against paul williams..
Mayweather will knock out Pac-yu ..
Mayweather is the greatest boxer of all time. Pure science.
Sir,
Cotto is the #1 Welterweight when Pacquiao fought him. FACT! Yahoo and Ring considers Cotto as #1. So please give you reference when you say Cotto is #3. And Pacquiao dominated, imagine what will happend to #2 and #3?
Thank you.
I take it these are just American PPV figures. Which is really really good.
You have 2 market audiences, you have your proper boxing fans and you have your patriotic sports fans.
So considering this fight didnt actually have an American in it those figures are very respectable. that shows how big a deal it was, ESPECIALLY considering the wallet smashing price of the PPV event.
“Mosley attempted to get a fight with Pacquiao, but there was understandably no interest from Pacquiao and his team. ”
This is a false statement.
Mosley already signed with another fighter and thus, was unable to sign with Pacquiao.
The way that I see it, Mosley is dodging him.
handicap? pacman 144 vs cotto 145, what the hell you talking about handicap.
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How bout PAC vs Paul Williams or Cotto vs Paul Williams? Thats tasty for me.
Which do you all think will be the best bout for next year?
PAC VS. Mayweather
PAC Vs. Mosley
PAC Vs. Marquez
PAC Vs. Clottey
I would like to see PAC Vs. Marquez again just to close the speculation that Marquez beat PACMAN twice and I would like to see Mayweather and Cotto fight to prove to all that COTTO is not done yet..
Peace to all..
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I give PAC and Cotto all the respect. Cotto Actually looks better this time than Margarito fight,, He is more muscular, leaner and for the first 3 rounds of PAC fight, he was actually faster than Margarito fight. (I am not sure if we watch the same fight) He only slows down after the second knock down. PAC took away everything he had. He’s power, speed and his will to win. Don’t tell me he was drain, “Cotto actualy back pedalling like a marathon runner”.. I give Cotto all the respect for having so much heart..
I don’t wanna sound like I am jumping on Manny’s van wagon.. I still like Cotto and I think he is not done yet.(We will see him next year againts a very good fighter and he will prove to all that he is still Cotto that we all know, Beside he still young man) PAC is just to much for him.
There will always be a Jordan, Tiger woods, Montana, and much more out there… But in Boxing Manny PACMAN is the best fighter all of time..
this fight should be 50 50 or if mayweathers so confident pacman is made 4 him 60 40 to the winner money carnt be any excuse doh this fight will generate double the money any other fight these two cud take at the moment so money is an excuse they both need each other no one will be intrested in any other oppnent is floyd scared unbeaten yes but if u dont fight the best it means nothing .the steroid talk is bs hes 3 stone up in weght but dosent look exactly big but these catch weights are rubbish if your fighting for the belt you gota fight at that weight just freddie trying to sneack thos lil advantages people say it makes no difference but it does sweating that extra 2 pounds of isnt simple look at dela hoya he was a shadow of is former self and nt so long b4 that fight he nearly beat mayweather so weight matters if it dosent why are they asking ffor the catch weights think about that
sorry long post but I just see pacquiao brutally humbling mayweather
Pacquiao will slaughter mayweather. Listen to mayweathers interviews he’s already saying the same thing diaz de la hoya hatton and now cotto were saying at that that they think that because they are bigger they will knock pacquiao out. I really thought cotto would be the one to beat manny because besides being strong he’s also an elite fighter. Mayweather has never fought anyone who is as fast as manny of throws as many punches from so many different angles. Besides, name one guy mayweather has beat who is even on manny level. Once pacquiao has mayweather on the ropes or in a corner we will see a side of mayweather we have never seen either he will lose heart once he gets hit or maybe he will man up and fight through it. My bet is that mayweather loses heart once pacquiao lands a few good shots.
i think hbo padded the numbers of the mayweather vs marquez fight and decrease the the revenues of the pacquiao-cotto fight to give the illusion that mayweather can still bring the audience.manny doesnt need to fight mayweather(i know pacman will knock outcold) manny should fight somebody who has a belt.if floyd wants him floyd should fall in line and fight a champion other than pacman and then if has a belt then let’s get it on with pacman.
Pacman sold 1.25 million PPV in North America and yet he’s a foreigner. He’s a worldwide phenom. America embraces him. Asia adores him. Mexico made him one of their own.The world loves him. What did MayWITHERED accomplish before the dela Hoya fight in terms of PPV? NADA!!! Americans watched Pacman more than MayWithered. That’s bloody shameful.
Part#1
I have seen almost every pacman fight from 112 pounds to now. Here is why i think it is likely he is on perfomance enhancement drugs:
1- Physique: Just recently Juan Manuel Marquez moved up alot of weight to fight Mayweather, Marquez unlike Pacman retained some water weight. He was muscular but not ripped as pacman who now looks like bruce lee. Boxer Kermit Cintron has said there is no way without some perfomance enhancement drugs can you gain over 20 pounds of muscle in such a short time. Even Duran, De La Hoya, and Mayweather didnt look that ripped.
2- He seems to get stronger with weight. If you look at pacman he was actually knock down 5 times at 126 and lower. He was knocked out twice by torrecampo and Singurat 3k batter, and was taken down by a stiff jab by Hussein at 122. But now he is willing to allow Cotto give him free body shots on the ropes. Cotto a man who can knockout a natural welter with ONE body shot and couldnt do any damage to pac with dozens. He had to go 12 rounds with Marquez twice, Larios, and Morales (1st fight) but now he can physically dominate naturally bigger fighters as David Diaz, De la hoya, Hatton, and Cotto.
3-Stamnia – Most fighters show fatigue and less sting in their punches in the late rounds. But pacman never shows any signs of that. in fact, the volume of punches get higher often. People say steroids hamper stamina for boxing. WRONG. If steroids don’t help stamina why would pitchers like Clemens and Pettite take them if they decrease and not increase pitches thrown and innings pitched . In addition, these drugs help increase recovery time. Most importantly, pacman has been active for 15 years as a fighter and he never shows any effects of his tough fights. His energy seems to be get higher even after numerous slugfests. After Duran fought Hagler in a 15 round battle he had nothing left for Thomas Hearns and was knocked out in 2 rounds.
mayweather fights at a catch weight, but comes in overweight!!!
author is biased and prejudice. why not make mayweather fight williams and mosley? mayweather is a true welter comapred to pacquiao.
geez, too many idiots in the interwebs…
I don’t see Floyd accepting anything wether its 60-40 or 30-70, He’s already playing Duck, Duck,Goose (pac-man).
FLOYD WILL LOOK 4 ANY EXCUSE NOT TO FIGHT PACMAN, COME ON ALL THAT CRAP HE TALKS ITS JUST EXCUSES EXUSES EXCUSES NOT TO FIGHT THE BEST. I WAS SUCH A FAN OF HIS BUT NOW CAN SEE HOW HE IS ACTUALLY AVOIDED THE ELITE FIGHTERS IN THE DIVISION. HES A MONEY HUNGRY FRAUD.
FLOYD IS A FRAUD PAC IS THE REAL DEAL!
Pac should fight Mayweather at 147 and impose a million dollar fine per pound over. Get a 50/50 share and make the fight at a 100sqft ring so the biker Mayweather won’t run. Oh, that is still too big for him to run. haha.
Hey Lahr, why the bitter piece ? did you have to eat crow too ? I bet you were euphoric in the first round when Cotto was winning. So sad it had to end from the second round onwards.
The way I saw it was quite the competitive fight until Cotto realized what he was up against.
Stop making excuses. Manny’s performance was a masterpiece and you know it.
Manny’s fights have more excitement than Floyd’s most expensive bling.
Catch weight or not, I guarantee you it would be 50/50 and not a penny more for Floyd. I bet it would be a boring fight too. Floyd has a penchant of diluting a fight’s excitement.
Floyd is right, he’s in a no-win situation. Win or lose he’ll still be universally hated.
So sad.
Stop reading sh*t from this site.
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I sense you don’t care for Pacquiao. You seem to suggest that Pacquiao won because of “handicap.” Come on, we saw how convincingly Pacquiao whipped Cotto; he would have beaten him at any weight. Besides, Cotto weighted nearly 160 in the ring as was expected. We all witnessed how strong and fast pacquiao is, except you. You saw Cotto weak from dehydration. Well, you still have hopes for Pacquiao’s defeat with Mayweather looming large. If that fight ever takes place (I doubt it), Mayweather does not hit like Cotto and is slower than pacquiao. So you have dismal hope.
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the fight wasn’t as one-sided as people make it to be. its all childish blather to be honest. the first six rounds were competitive and hadn’t it been for those two downs, Miguel would’ve won rounds 3 and 4. especially four. round 5 was good and many people tend to forget that Miguel won round 10 on two judge’s cards.
now if his corner was teeming with morons, Cotto could’ve done even better. I don’t think he would’ve won the fight with a better corner but it could’ve been better.
Cotto is one of the top welterweight and he just can’t handle Pacquiao’s speed and power. Stop hatin’ on Pacman!! Bring Mayweather next! PAC will destroy him.
Before the PPV numbers turn out, I did not hear any comments comparing Pac-Cotto numbers to PBF’s previous fights. Although it’s true Mayweather sold 2.4 million against De La Hoya, all that mattered by the general media was the fight Mayweather-Marquez sold.
Why don’t we just compare that this year’s fights. To make it fair, I think the contract should be set in at maximum weight and 50/50 share or better yet, 60/40 for the winner of the fight.