Calzaghe Sees Froch beating Dirrell, and Haye defeating Valuev – News
October 16th, 2009
By Scott Gilfoid: Former IBF/WBA/WBC/WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe thinks that World Boxing Council super middleweight champion Carl Froch will beat American Andre Dirrell tomorrow night in Nottingham, according to a column from Calzaghe in the South Wales Argus. Calzaghe seems to be picking from his heart rather than his head, though, saying “The best thing for British boxing would be a Carl Froch win.” As such, I have to dismiss Calzaghe’s prediction as him rooting for a fellow UK fighter. Obviously, being from Wales, Calzaghe has probably seen few, if any, of Dirrell’s prior fights, so I doubt he has much knowledge on him.
Photo Credit: Tom Casino/SHOWTIME – I agree that Valuev isn’t that great, but Haye has a glass chin and I’m not sure he’ll be able to stand up to Valuev if the big Russian lands a shot late in the fight. Valuev certainly looks terrible and ready to be beaten based on his last fight against Evander Holyfield in December, but Haye’s chin is very fragile and his stamina is horrid. If Valuev can take Haye deep, he could knock him out with a feather if he can catch up to Haye. I doubt that Haye will be acting brave in this fight.
After all, he’s not fighting a cruiserweight or journeyman Monte Barrett. Say what you want about how limited and slow Valuev is, he’s got a good chin and will likely stick around for the entire fight. Haye could knock him out if he were brave and was bold enough to stand and trade with the big seven foot Russian. But I don’t think Haye will want to risk getting clipped on his tender chin, so I expect him to only throw one punch at a time in this fight.
Haye won’t knock a big fighter like Valuev out with one punch, and it’s going to take a lot for him to get a decision in Germany. I expect Valuev to win the fight, probably by knockout. I can stress enough how poor Haye’s stamina is. When he exerts himself hard, he wears down quickly and can be hurt during this time.
Calzaghe acknowledges that the 32-year-old Froch has problems with his defense, but still thinks he’ll win, commenting “He’s very vulnerable as he doesn’t really defend too much, but I expect him to beat Andre Dirrell on Saturday and to go fairly well in this.” I guess Calzaghe was in a kind mood because he usually has a lot more to say about Froch’s “skills.” But he is open enough to point out Froch’s leaky defense. What Calzaghe doesn’t realize is how good Dirrell is, and how superior he is to Froch.
This fight is going to be similar to Dirrell’s fight with 5’9″ Victor Oganov, another fighter with very slow hand speed like Froch. Dirrell boxed circles around him, hit him at will for six brutal rounds before the bout was finally stopped in the sixth round in November 2008. Froch is about as slow as Oganov, maybe slightly slower. It’s going to be nearly impossible for the painfully slow Froch go catch up to Dirrell with his punches.
I actually wonder whether Calzaghe was trying to be politically correct prediction by choosing Froch to beat Dirrell. I mean it wouldn’t look good for Calzaghe to be picking against his own countrymen, would it? There would be some who would say that he’s not loyal to his country by picking against Froch. This is another reason why I don’t buy Calzaghe’s pick of Froch and I think his prediction of Haye beating Valuev is wishful thinking. Valuev is going to tap Haye’s glass chin and send him into slumber land.
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Calzaghe also continues his streak of predicting most all the fights correctly (big name fights) over the past few years. (Unlike smack talking Hopkins, De La Hoya, etc)
Calzaghe knew that he could make a dozen points about froch’s numerous weaknesses, but he is all over the news for that silly dancing show which he JUST got kicked off for. He knows that if he wasn’t a little bit kind and slightly supportive of Froch, then everybody would say that he was just a sore hater because he lost at something (even dancing at that) and that it’s just because he was “scared”, or hates Froch. But inside he knows he and Kessler and Abraham could take Froch out easily. I liked that although he says he felt Froch would win that he didn’t avoid pointing out the most obvious weakness- Froch’s defense/footwork.
you dont see Froch holding on for dear life, you dont see him running away,you dont see him avoiding confrontation. Yes technically not brilliant and can be hit but thats what makes the man great to watch …..he WANTS TO FIGHT the man deserves some credit unlike the muppet who is allowed to post these articles.
dirrell ran all night i was their ring side he was shot after 8 rounds. 2 judges said carl won.so thats scottie proved wrong yet again ha ha
Well, Scott was off of his prediction by one point, which was deducted from dirrell, which could have cost froch to lose his virginity. Consequently, froch proved his performance very boring, as technically he’s a lousy fighter. AA will rock froch and topple him with one single punch.
AA can murder calzaghe with ease.
Scot Gilford is the laughing stock on the BBC Boxing forum. It’s frightening how much hatred he has for UK Boxers. Borderline obsessive.
Anyways…
Dirrell looked (as Buncey put it) DRY and looked withdrawn at the weigh-in. Dirrell’s power is untested, his chin is untested… Froch is a good test for him. But I can see this turning out to be another Calzaghe vs. Lacy. Quiet Brit showing what he can do in the ring.
Froch TKO in the 10th/11th
You doubt Joe Calzaghe has ever seen a Dirrell fight because he lives in Wales? Do you think Wales is some kind of third-world country where they don’t have TV and internet access? What’s the matter with you Scott? Are you a complete cretin? You say Calzaghe has no knowledge of Dirrell, but it’s quite clear from you article that you’ve only seen a couple of David Haye fights, probably the Thompson one and the Barrett one, and probably seen one Froch fight- against Taylor. Why don’t you go and do your homework before shooting your mouth off. Froch is proven- Dirrell isn’t, yet you act like it’s the other way around, just because one is American and one is European. Well, I got news for you, Kessler is going to win this, and Haye is going to take his time and beat Valuev on points.
All the Trash talk is over Scott, you’ve banned many people from commenting on your articles, even though they are entitled to there opinion as much as you are, and you have wrote article after article trying to big up Dirrell and bring down Carl Froch, a proven unbeaten world champ. The trash talk is over tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carl win K.O
Calzaghe hasnt seen Dirrel fight before because he lives in Wales!? You saying he doesnt have a telly??? up until just last year, he was in america alot too!!! pish article!!
Is Dirrel the new Lacy?
Calzaghe has not seen Dirrel fight Scott? thats true, so he missed seeing Dirrel get floored by bums. Dirrel looks like a hyperactive kid, he is getting laid out.
was at the weigh in yesterday, direll looks nervouse, cant even stand still, head and eyes all over the place, must hold my hands up, got slighltly sucked in to the whole american hype thing, thought this might be a test too much for froch but after yesterday….cant see any problems, froch looked in the best shape ive ever seen him, direll looked gaunt and shaky, weights too small for a lad of his height, froch to wear him down and finish it before the tenth
Giiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllfoid! Froch v Dirrell is on tonight, I’ll be watching and remembering everything you’ve said. Can’t wait! Start working on your excuse article now, its gonna have to be amazing haha
to bazooka, its on at 2am
what time will the fight between Carl froch vs Andre direll begin in the UK?
Calzaghe has joked that since he’s retired Froch has been like a ‘stalker’, saying that he expects to see him camping outside his house!!
Joe has also been slightly dismissive of froch as a threat, which i happen to agree with!
Point being…….he doesnt even like froch that much, but watch out for taylor, he wont win but i predict a good showing for him.
Plus Kessler would destroy Froch and im sure Calzaghe would agree.
Im British, but this could be the coming out party for the yanks, nobody knows that much about them and so i find it hard to comment, but out of Froch/kessler/abraham/taylor…i like kessler.
i swear scott only writes these articles for fun. he must like the abuse because thats all he gets for them.
i agree with joe calazaghe. i think all us brits should get behind carl froch.because he’s achieved alot and i admire joe calazaghe for leaving any personal grudges and supporting froch.
also watch out for ‘anan amar’ undercard in nottingham, defending his english welterwieght title.he’s trained by the legendery trainer brendan ingle in sheffield
Gilfoid, you must be aware of how ridiculous you are, it makes me think your articles are some kind of ironic joke that i dont quite get, cos i just cant understand how anyone could be this stupid!
Im not speaking as a defensive brit, but a human with at least half a brain cell, and the majority of your fellow yanks would also agree that your a complete retard!
to straight right, stones pounds and ounces are from the same imperial measurement system you f@cking clown. you just made an absolute c@ck of yourself with your dumb loud american mouth. you must be gilfoid in disguise
scott, calzaghe and froch hate each other and are not fellow countrymen you clown, also i love the way your now calling monte barrett a journeyman when you actually predicted him to beat haye! DOH!!! and its really sad that you keep posting under other names like jstraightright ! lol
“Dirrell came to prominence”
great quote. Who heard of him before this tourney was announced?
You yank idiot, calzaghe is welsh/italian and actually dislikes the english to an extent. Wales and england have a big rivalry.
typical fat burger eating yank, your whole counttry is over weight now your only hope fighter is over weight. lol
jstraightright – 4 oz, is not the issue for Dirrell, that will come off. The problem is on the biggest fight of his career he comes in over weight…….bad camp? and not ver professional. Froch by KO 8th round onwards, Dirrell is heading into deep waters and is going to drown!
iain whatever the f that name is. you will know you are talking about yourself when you see froch, his mommy and girl crying and all three will be screaming to quit..lol but true
That’s a different straight right but both of us are right and for you people to talk about 4 ounces that will be off within the 2 hours easily are just going to learn a mini lesson but the serious lesson comes tomorrow night when Dirrell takes Froch out hard…
UUUUUUMMMMMMMM
Straight right = Scott Gilfoid!!!!
straight right, you’re a retard. If we use stones etc (which we do) that is an imperial measurement. Guess what else is…. Pounds and Ounces. idiot. x
looks like dirrell has found a way out of this fight that’s one way of keeping his undefeated record coward
a supreme athlete does not come in over weight so much for dirrell hay scott
”I mean it wouldn’t look good for Calzaghe to be picking against his own countrymen, would it? ”
Wales and England are different countries, not like an American to be ignorant of geography though. & in everyone of your articles you are anti-European fighters and pro-American fighters, this is ignorant again as you always dismiss European fighters. Apart from (arguably) the welterweight division America is no longer the Mecca of boxing and it hasn’t been so for some time.
A good fighter is a good fighter no matter of where they are from. My prediction is for Haye to win a decision with a beautifully disciplined performance demonstrating his speed and for Froc to leave himself to exposed again and to get knocked out like Taylor would have if he didn’t have stamina issues. Froch doesn’t like fast fighters and would take a brawl over one any day so i expect him to struggle.
My humble opinion anyway.
You limeys are showing how little you know about boxing by getting all hot and bothered about Dirrell not making weight. 4 ounces is nothing. That’s not even half a pound for christ sakes. Damn, don’t you limeys know about weights? I guess you’re all confused because you use stones and garbage like that to figure out your weights. Probably don’t even know what an ounce is. LOL!
haha your guy is so professional,too many burgers ay scot???
LMFAO over the limit!!!!! So is this the professional that you were talking about Scott? Who has struggled to make the weight?? LMAO this is getting better the closer it gets to fight night!
scott scott scott – why do only write to try to unsettle the fighter you want to see lose. do you honrstly believe that froch gives a toss about your no mark opinion, your very transparent and pretty pathetic
Ah Scott 3 articles in quick succesion and for once you have changed your tune, if only to give your biased opinion of another British fighter in David Haye.
Now come on Scott you’ve been writing articles on this site for some time and they always follow the same subject matter…………British/European fighters are useless and all American fighters walk on water, it doesn’t matter how many times you are proven wrong you keep banging that same ole drum.
Now you WILL get some of your predictions correct (the law of averages suggests you will have to be right some of the time!!) however you are consistently proven wrong.
You could be a much better writer than this however I just think you are a wind up merchant who has nothing better to do (as if to prove my point you tend to remove any comments I make alluding to that fact and no doubt this comment will be removed in time) than spout biased bile on a daily basis……………I just think you need a hug so call your mom down to the basement and I’m sure she will oblige.
bring back mr t
all american’s fight like chickens, hit and run tactics…….. i see better fights for freedown my local pub!!
Andre Dirrell 4oz over limit for fight against Carl Froch; has two hours to make weight
if he doesnt make weight, he loses the fight before it has started, looks like the yank has been eating too many burgers
all that talking and he shows up over weight
calzaghe know’s what he’s talking about scot,unlike you….
Calzahge is right froch will beat dirrell tomorrow. I just listen to the live weight in. Froch 167.4 lbs Dirrell 168.4 lbs
Dirrell comes in 4 ozs over the limit and has 2 hours to shift it.
you know how Calzaghe and Froch hate each other………………..you know that rivalry thats been high profile for like over a year now………you know that one………..you know about that right?
…….Scott?……Scott?……youve heard about that right…….Scott?
Racist or jealous which one is it Scott?