Mayweather-Marquez PPV Numbers Could Come Near 1 Million Sales
September 22nd, 2009
By Chris Williams: Believe it or not, the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez bout last Saturday night could end up coming close to 1 million PPV buys, according to Kevin Iole of Yahoo. Yeah, when pigs fly. I don’t believe it for a second, even if they do come out with an official total that’s in the same ballpark as Kevin’s number.
I think HBO, with its Mayweather-Marquez 24/7 series, did it help the PPV numbers in a major way, but I can’t see it being a fight that would come anywhere close to 1,000,000 PPV buys. I think Kevin is way off on this. I have my estimate based on the formula of how little coverage that the fight got going into the fight.
My estimate for the Mayweather-Marquez fight is 400,000 buys, at the high end. Mayweather dominated the little Marquez by most accounts. I didn’t waste my hard-earned money on this farce, so I didn’t see the bout. But I hear that Mayweather blew it by making the fight look too easy and not taking chances to try and score a knockout.
How come I’m not surprised? I knew Mayweather was going to play the old safety first bit, even though he had essentially a pumped up super featherweight he was in the ring with. That’s the weight class that Marquez fought his entire career until recently moving up to lightweight division last year.
If you were into watching a bigger guy like Mayweather pot shot all night against a slower, shorter and older fighter like Marquez, then you were in bliss. However, if you paid $50 to see a competitive fight, you were sadly disappointed.
When the PPV numbers are eventually released, I won’t believe them if it’s anything above 400,000 buys. This just wasn’t a sale-able fight because of the size disparity between Mayweather and Marquez. Unless I’m the one that actually is privy to that kind of information, I’m not going to believe whatever numbers eventually are released if they’re out of what I expect them to be.
If they say one million buys, I see that as maybe 300,000 and so on and so forth. I hate the idea of the final sales figures being rigged but I personally would have a hard time trusting the final numbers if they come out beyond the expectations for this fight. This fight was a joke from day one and it’s really sad that it was put together in the first place.
If Mayweather wanted a tune-up bout, he should have chosen someone his own size and not a lightweight opponent and then had the bout take place on ESPN or perhaps on the undercard of title event with other fighters. But to have Mayweather with a start from the lighter weight classes was really off putting for me.
Like I said before, who would want to see Wladimir Klitschko fight someone two divisions smaller than him? It might be interesting for the sheer spectacle but having a pumped up light heavyweight like Chad Dawson face Wladimir Klitschko would be a terrible mismatch and I wouldn’t pay for it.
I’m cool with exhibition fights but I don’t want to have to pay $50 to see them happen. And the Mayweather-Marquez undercard wasn’t filled with the kind of big named fighters that would get huge numbers interested in the fight. Katsidis-Escobedo, John-Juarez and Cruz-Lock aren’t the kind of fighters that would bring in huge PPV numbers.
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Chris, why don’t you man up and admit you were wrong about Mayweather’s PPV numbers. You estimates were way off. I noticed you published more hate on Mayweather saying the he is afraid of Mosely. Just admit it. You don’t like Mayweather and your articles are clearly biased. Why should anyone read your articles???
It is sad when men sound like girls crying over weight ect…. Marquez wanted the fight, he made a ton of money, way more than ever…. But heavy or not Mayweather made him look like a sparring partner based on skills!!!! Manny was taken to the brink, bottomline is Mayweather reminded us all that he is the best boxer in the game hands down. Hate him accept the fact that no one had ever abused and outboxed Marquez like that… I think it was BS that he even mentioned the weight, did you see alot of holding and wrestling?? I just saw Floyd counterpunching and outboxing Marquez. Pac Man is great and fan friendly but Floyd is the best out there by a wide margin.
141 pounds at the pac fight for marquez while 148 during the mayweather fight.
lmao at chris for sayin pac was 147 during at a super featherweight fight. his heaviest in super feather was 144 pounds while marquez was 141 pounds during fight night. pac started to weigh like this at and after the morales fight. he weighed 147 during the diaz at lightweight. Mayweather 150 pounds during the de la hoya fight night? i dont think so. no official weight were released, but did u see that mayweather’s biceps were alot bigger during that fight than when he fought at welterweight? yes its true that mayweather’s average during a welterweight fight was around 147.2 but to say he was 150 during the oscar fight? i dont think so. also, did u even see the fight? he was alot bigger than marquez.
oscar and shafer said that the bout was sold out, yet there were a lot of empty seats!
they’re leaking the PPV buys to a yahoo writer, Kevin Lole, who is a Floyd fanboy.
these leaky numbers smell like pee pee to me.
Hit the nail on the head Chris,called it just how many people see it,but they hate on PBF so much they don’t want to admit it.
Thanks chris you covered everything
THIRTY PERCENT OF THE POPULATION IS HISPANIC,A GOOD PERCENTAGE WANTED TO SEE THE FIGHT AND SEE THERE MAN WIN .FOURTEEN PERCENT OF THE POPULATION IS BLACK MANY BOUGHT THE FIGHT TO SEE MAYWEATHER WIN.ITS CALLED MARKETING KNOWING YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS.I CAN SEE THE FIGHT DOING THE NUMBERS DESPITE THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE CONSTANTLY TALK DOWN THE FIGHT HOPING NO ONE WOULD WATCH BECAUSE THEY JUST DONT LIKE T.O. I MEAN FLOYD MAYWHEATHER.
Chris – You hit everything on the nail.
I dont believe this writer when he says he didnt watch the fight, he seems quite obsessed with Mayweather. Hes just trying to use his position as a writer on this website to try and turn boxing fans against Mayweather.
The numbers speak for themselves.
I’ve read most of your Mayweather articles over the last few weeks.
You’ve gone to saying Floyd is going to be average, to saying floyd is overrated, to saying floyd needs to destroy him to get any credit, to saying floyd was too big, to saying all of the PPV info is wrong.
You know, how can you possibly think anyone will take your words that seriously, when you are so partisan? And how do you think you will ever be able to progress any further as a writer, when you have no ability to leave personal feelings out of boxing bouts?
You dislike Mayweather. So write rubbish. That’s what your writing career basically amounts to.
I don’t mind wind up merchants. But when you just talk rubbish, it needs to be addressed. So people realise you are making most of it up.
Point 1. Mayweather’s heaviest ever in ring weight is 150 pounds. 150 pounds. 150 pounds. Versus Oscar, at 154. When he put on huge amounts of muscle to compete.
Still, only 150 pounds. marquez was 148 pounds. Even taking in MAyweather’s highest ever in ring weight, that’s 2 pounds.
His average weight, in ring, for his entire welterweight career is 147.2 pounds.
Floyd never ever puts on weight after weigh in. He fights at the same weight he weighs in at.
Unless your claiming he suddenly decided to come in 15 pounds heavier, than his 154 weight, he had no real advantage.
As an example, Manny versu Marquez, at 130. Manny was 147 in ring. 3 pounds less than Mayweather was against De la Hoya 4 divisions up!
Manny had huge weight advantages over every super feather he faced. Certainly Marquez.
As for Juan. He was 143 in ring versus Diaz. He was 148 in this fight. He put on 5 pounds.
Unless you think 5 pounds suddenly turns you into a slow chump, your talking rubbish.
As for PPV, you idiotic fans can just shout and shout about how nobody likes floyd, and he’s boring.
Sadly, he’s much more of a PPV draw than Pacquiao. As the purist fan wants to see his skills. They want to see him slip 89% of the PFP number 2s punches.
Fanatics turn up at shows. Purists watch it on the telly.
Manny gets the first. Mayweather gets the second.
HBO estimations after the fight were 1.2 million. GBP estimations were 1.3 million. Yahoo sports were leaked that it was around 1 million.
That’s a huge sale. 3x as much as Pacquiao versus Marquez.
Claiming it’s 400’000. Your showing how little you know on the guy.
He was doing 400k against Carlos Baldomir, 5 years ago.
the bugs in the theaters might have been counted as ppv numbers…..without paying of course…lol…
I find it interesting that size what not an issue when de la hoya fought pacman, and no one will even mention how big oscar was when he fought mayweather. How we forget that oscar refused to be weighed before the fight so there was no unofficial weight. He looked 15-20 lbs heavier than mayweather. Lastly, before the fight, most haters thought marquez would give mayweather what he deserved. Needless to say, it is the haters that make him the biggest draw.
Remember the uk fans had this for free so we weren’t counted in the pvp numbers
I would rather be dead than be Chris Williams
What is the definition of competive? I respected the fact that he went out there, just like every fight he has done and dominated. Yall are just mad cause yall cant find anyone to beat him! As far as ducking fighters? He called out both Mosely and Cotto in the past and niether one of them wanted to fight him then! So call them duckers too, get off their sacks now that they want to ride the “Money” Train cause they know he brings in big dollars! And why does everyone think Mayweather Cherry picks and Pacqiuao doesnt when he beat two fighters that Floyd had beat up before that? Get yall stuff right!
marquez tried to make it entertaining by being agresive but anyone seeing the fight could see the big diferrance in sise between the two fighters that there was no way in hell he could beat floyd. is boxing in such a bad state that this type of fights have to take place. marquez kinda reminded me of the cristian being throun to the lions where the powers that be set it up so that floyd would have a safe fight coming back and marquez would be the sacrifice.
I am a fan of Mayweather but wasn’t able to watch the fight between him and Marquez because it wasn’t a good match. I would like to see the fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather so that I could prove to you that Mayweather is the real P4P king..
I don’t believe that inflated figure myself. Give me a break… the venue was not sold out unlike the Pac-Hatton fight and somebody’s saying it did 1M PPV buys which is 200K more than Pac-Hatton? Somebody’s lying for sure.
mayweather baldomir did 325K and mayweather zab almost did 400K. mayweather has become huge after his dlh fight and has done over 800k in each of his last two fights. plus zab and baldomir didnt have a 24/7 series.. this author is stupid. this easily did well over 400K
I’ve never been a “fan” of Mayweather per se, but, the man has skills, and I think he is, by far, the pound for pound champion. No way PacMan is strong enough for him… Cotto may be the only guy that can hang with him…
Consider the business angle being played.
Manny Pacquiao is considered the P4P king at this time…right? Well, Juan Manuel Marquez fought and lost to Manny Pacquiao twice. Yet, a lot of people, to include myself, thought Marquez won the first fight and the second fight could have gone either way. (I like Pacquiao).
Floyd Mayweather elected to fight Marquez because so many people believe he beat Pacquiao. He believed, rightfully so, that if he beat the living hell out of Marquez that would put him in a good position with a Pacquiao fight.
Also, consider Pacquiao beat the hell out of Oscar De Lahoya. Floyd beat Oscar as well, but not as decisivel as Pacquiao.
Now..put all that together and you potentially have major pubic and industry interest in a Pacquiao vs Mayweather Pay-Per View Block Buster Fight.
Who wins…who cares!