Floyd Mayweather Jr – has he regained the P4P crown
September 20th, 2009
By Matthew Tunstall: This past Saturday night in Las Vegas Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather Jr put on a boxing clinic against one of the best boxers on the planet today in Juan Manuel Marquez. Mayweather totally dominated Marquez throughout the bout, knocking him down in the second round with a blistering left hook, to come away with a lopsided unanimous decision of 118-109, 120-107 and 119-108.
He controlled the bout from the opening bell with blazing hand speed and brilliant footwork. Many had questioned whether the 2 year retirement would have hindered Mayweather’s ability but he looked back to his beautiful best last night. The question still remains has Floyd Mayweather regained his P4P crown after this performance? An argument can be made either way.
Some may feel Mayweather’s dazzling performance last night will have re-installed him as the P4P number 1. He made light work of an excellent fighter in Marquez making the Mexican Warrior look ordinary. Let’s remember that Manny Pacquiao struggled in two bouts with Marquez finishing with a draw and a controversial split decision victory.
On the other side of the fence others feel that Mayweather has cherry-picked Marquez as an opponent knowing that he would have numerous advantages within the fight. Even though Mayweather destroyed Marquez he didn’t make as short work of Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya as Manny Pacquaio did.
Whatever the case a strong argument can be made for either Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio being the P4P king. Each fighter can point to brilliant victories over quality adversaries.
In order for Floyd Mayweather Jr to cement his spot as boxing’s number 1 and to be considered as a great in the sport’s history I believe he needs to prove himself against other fighters in and around the welterweight division. ‘Sugar’ Shane Mosley last night called Mayweather out in the post-fight interview with the support of Bernard ‘The Executioner’ Hopkins. No doubt the winner of Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquaio will call out Mayweather too. I do believe that if Mayweather was to fight Mosley and the winner of Cotto v Pacquaio scoring victories in each bout he would without doubt claim the P4P crown and a place as one of boxing’s greatest ever fighters.
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Absolutely NOT!! Mayweather should be demoted for fighting a smaller guy and not someone in his own division…Shame!!
Well, if Floyd is up to the task and fights the best middleweight, then why not? Making the weight shouldn’t be a problem with him as he walks around that weight..Williams or those in the super 6 bouts..will he take that challenge? They can meet at Jr. Middle and I’m sure any of the middleweights will bite it for money’s sake.
FIRST LET ME START BY SAYING FLOYD IS A GOOD BOXER AND CHAMPION.HE IS NOTGIVEN RESPECT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.1HE HAND PICKS ALL HIS FIGHTS.2HE HAS NEVER FACED A TOP FIGHTER IN HIS PRIME.3 WHEN ASKED IF HE WILL EVER FACE A TOP RANKED OPPONENT “COTTO”HE SAID HE WAS RETIRING FROM BOXING AND THAT COTTO IS A GREAT CHAMPION.IF HE FACES SOMEONE COTTO,MOSLEY,WILLIAMS,BERTO,THEN HE CAN BE GIVEN THE RESPECT HE DESERVES.OUT OF 40 BOUTS HE HAS FOUGHT 35 BOXERS WHO NEVER AMOUNTED TO NOTHING.THE OTHER5 WHERE NOT IN THERE PRIME OR TOO SMALL.
IT NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT A FIGHTER WHO IS UNBEATEN,5 DIVISION WORLD CHAMPION.A FIGHTER WHO HAS NEVER DEMANDED THAT HIS APPONENT MAKE A CERTAIN WEIGHT LIKE PAC OR DELA HOJA DOES,MUST FIGHT SOME ONE TO PROVE HE IS GREAT.WHEN THE SAME PEOPLE CALL A FIGHTER LIKE DURAN GREAT.DURAN WAS COMPLETELY OUTBOXED BY KIRKLAND LAING,KNOCKED OUT BY THOMAS HEARNS AND CRIED NO MAS AGAINST SUGAR RAY.NOW THAT ACCORDING TO YOU ALL IS WHAT AGREAT FIGHTER IS ABOUT
“I wish all of you boxing know nots and Floyd Mayweather Jr. haters would look at this sport with a hint of knowledge and objectivity.”
I KNOW that Floyd will wipe the floor with Pacquiao and when he does, he’ll grab that p4p crown right back. But… paying $600,000 to come in over the original catch weight against a lightweight that has already moved up to face you, doesn’t warrant being p4p king again IMO. When he beats the winner of Pac/Cotto or even possibly Mosley/Clottey then I’ll consider him one of the greats.
Is this writer serious? He beat an overweight LW. He didn’t even make the agreed weight of 144 lbs, he cheated in front of the boxing world. He didn’t prove anything other than proving he can beat a LW. Can a Heavyweight like Tyson be considered P4P king if he was beating up overweight Light Heavies and middleweights and not fighting the best in his own division?
Any and everyone who considers Paul Williams to be a weleterwieght is an idiot. Why is it even okay for such a large man to fight as a welterwieght I don’t know. But, in my eyes Williams can only claim legitimacy at 160lbs and heavier. Manny Pacquiao will never fight Shane Mosley, Andre Berto, Kermit Cintron or especially not Paul Williams. Paul Williams is about to fight Kelly Pavlik for god’s sake. I wish all of you boxing know nots and Floyd Mayweather Jr. haters would look at this sport with a hint of knowledge and objectivity.
I’m sorry, but regaining the title of p4p king doesn’t mean picking a smaller guy to fight, not making the weight, not disclosing your true weight come fight night, and winning by a decision. I know I sound too pro Manny, but Manny hasn’t asked anyone to come up to his weight or go down to his weight. He never asked Oscar to go down. Oscar made the decision. He asked Manny to move up 12 pounds. He met Ricky at 140. He’s asking Cotto to go down 2 pounds, somewhere nowhere near Manny’s true fighting weight. Floyd asked Marquez to move up 9 pounds to 144 but in reality meant 146.
If Mayweather is to regain his title as p4p king, he must abide by the terms and not make his own. The whole not making weight junk that he pulled showed that he doesn’t have what it takes to be the p4p king. He doesn’t have the guts that Marquez or Pacquiao have. He didn’t even have the discipline to lose 2 more pounds. How can you have Mayweather as the king if he can’t even abide by the terms he agreed upon? He can’t even be considered king of the welterweight division because he didn’t even fight a welterweight.
I’m sorry, but Manny has never pulled crap like that. He always weighs in at or below the limit. I just hope that Cotto abides by the terms. If not, he’ll be considered like Floyd.
IS Floyd Mayweather Jr. AFRAID of MANNY PACMAN PACQUIAO??????????????????
i got bored the most everytime i watch mayweather’s fights.in short
NO! floyd has to regain it from manny or miguel if he defeat manny. floyd is now p4p number 2 since he defeated the p4p number 2 nomore noless!
Floyd—good point dude!!
mayweather should be #2 on the pound for pound list until he beats manny (#1) on the list then he could be #1 pound for pound!
Heerdeep shergil you are right
li’l floyd lost $600,000, that’s for sure. now about the p4p crown, could he get that by cheating juan on the weigh scale?
how come li’l floyd avoided the pre-fight weigh scale like it’s infected by swine flu?
NO! he’s not, by far, the P4P king, he is away from that. He need to fight real Welterweights, the best on the division (and it’s full of great fighters) to think about it.
Before the fight everyone was saying Floyd fears Marquez….Now that he has beaten him, he should fight …..(Moseley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Berto, Clottey)…Remember Pacman hasn’t fought these guys either. ….You cant fight everyone
yes..manny struggled against marquez twice. let’s also remember, mayweather is 2 division bigger than marquez. let’s also remember, mayweather struggles against oscar de la hoya…let’s also remember, floyd had a back and forth fight against THE SMALLER hatton until the later rounds. let’s also remember…Pacquiao, 2 division smaller than mayweather, DESTROYED THE BOTH BIGGER OSCAR AND HATTON. mayweather is good, but his win against a SMALLER marquez is not huge.
P4P title is just a fantasy list! It really dosen’t mean anything. It’s a what if list! What would would happen if this guy faced this guy at this weight limit! It’s like playing fantasy football, you get to put together a team that will never really be. What if Mike Tyson was a WW? He would not have the same power! What if Mayweather was a HW! He wouldn’t have the same speed! To all you so call boxing fans, don’t take the P4P list serious. Sometimes you get to see two guys fight one another on the list but its usually a mismatch just as you seen with Floyd & Marquez. One guy will always have the advantage by having one fighter move up or down in weight!
2 Cut the story short:
Floyd needs to fight in his next fight one of the following to get the respect he seeks: (order of preference)
1. Shane Mosley
2. Paul Williams
3. If not either, then atleast cotto/pac winner
4. If none of these options… Then plz retire (too boring for ppv)
I’ve always been a Mayweather fan, but honestly, there is no excuse for taking Marquez to a 12th round decision, and still expect the P4P title.
Mayweather is the champion , i love him , he has speed and will power . remember he dealt with the almighty BIG SHOW in the WWE. NOTHIG MEGA !!!
The sad thing about this fight is that come fight night it was obvious there was a couple of weight divisions between them. Sad in that regard. BUT, I have always been someone that slates Mayweather and I watched some lightning boxing. Counter punching at such speed.
Now can we just have Mayweather Pacquiao. 5o0/50 purse. Lets do it. surely its the fight we want to see.
PS liked this article. Cheers guys.
I always thought to be the best you have to beat the best. Most boxing fans can probably agree that Mayweather skills are 2nd to none! If you take a look at his track record since moving to the WW division, he has not been fighting the best WW guys. You Mayweather fans & haters can say what you want about how good his skills are but that dosen’t make you the best! Here are the best WW guys out there: (Moseley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Berto, Clottey) Mayweather has not faced any of these guys. I’m not saying he couldn’t beat these guys but his last few fights has been Hatton, Dela Hoya, Gatti, Baldermir, Juda, Marquez, etc. None of these guys were the best out there! I don’t take anything away from Mayweather’s wins, he did what he had to do. Mayweather is a true WW so all you so call boxing fans stop saying he started at light weight, so did Mosely & other guys. Your body matures over the years. There’s a reason he couldn’t make the 144lb limit. He’s a WW.
HE IS THE TRULY POUND 4 OVER POUND KING. OVER POUND NOT P4P. OR A MISMATCH KING.