Pacquiao Wants Cotto Fined $1 Million Per Pound Over the Limit? – News
August 4th, 2009
By Manuel Perez: Not only will Manny Pacquiao be getting the bigger cut of the revenue and having Miguel Cotto’s World Boxing Organization title on the line at a catch weight of 145 instead of the normal welterweight limit of 147, but he also reportedly wants Cotto to be penalized a whopping $1 million per pound that the Puerto Rican fighter comes in over the 145 pound catch weight that Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach have set for Cotto for the November 14th bout at the MGM Grand, in Las Vegas, Nevada, according to Nick Giongco from MB.com. Giongco reports that Pacquiao wants the “a penalty of $1 million per pound” that Cotto comes in over the 145 pound catch weight.
In contrast, Pacquiao is guaranteed to make a minimum of $12 million but will likely make much more than that by the time the ticket sales and Pay per view figures are final. But if Cotto ends up getting fined an absurd $1 million per pound over the limit, Pacquiao could make out like a fat rat while Cotto ends up going hungry.
I thought the business about Cotto having to put up his WBO welterweight title at 145 was a stinker, but this pretty much takes the whole cake. I hope this doesn’t take effect because that would be an enormous fine tilted in the favor of Pacquiao.
Pacquiao already has a lot of the things in his favor for this bout – weight, revenue split of 65-35, gloves, location and likely Cotto’s WBO title on the line – but this is going a bit too far in my view. Cotto is the champion here, not Pacquiao. Who cares if Pacquiao has won titles in six different divisions in the past?
Pacquiao became popular recently when he defeated a shot and weight drained Oscar De La Hoya, and a war scarred Ricky Hatton. I tell you, if you put another fighter in the same position as Pacquiao, say Juan Manuel Marquez, he likely would have done the same thing that Pacquiao did and he would be the one getting the glory right now and not Pacquiao.
It’s all about Pacquiao fighting the right people at the right time. He already got boxed silly by Marquez twice previously and should have lost both fights in the minds of many boxing fans. Pacquiao hasn’t shown much interest in fighting Marquez a third time after winning a terribly controversial bout last year where Pacquiao defeated Marquez by a 12 round split decision.
So Pacquiao goes from that fight into bouts against three vulnerable fighters – David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton – and all of a sudden Pacquiao is vaulted into the status of a pound for pound number #1 fighter in the minds of some.
I put it to you. If you put Marquez in with the same three fighters that Pacquiao fought, he would have likely won each one of those fights and proved that what Pacquiao accomplished was no big deal.
As for the $1 million dollar fine per pound, if it does exist, Cotto needs to put his foot down and tell Pacquiao and Roach what they can do with their penalty. While Cotto is at it, he should stick to his guns and not put his WBO title on the line unless Pacquiao agrees to have the fight take place at the normal welterweight limit of 147 instead of the handicapping weight of 145. If Pacquiao is afraid to fight at 147, so be it. Pacquiao can then go hunt down another alternative like David Diaz or one of Pacquiao’s other quality opponents.
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That sucks!!! Fight if you wanna fight but don’t make the rules.
its all true!! pacman is a cherry picker!! he needs to get everything his way in order to win. if he would to face Cotto at a catch weight of 147, Cotto would take pacman’s head off!!
i meant more impressive than the wins for pac sorry everyone
I Think Pac has saved boxing and he is P4p rt now but i also think hes buying his spot as #1 contender he beat an old de la hoya and then went down to jr welter to fight hatton and all of a sudden hes the number one contender? it was oscars fault and hattons for thinking they were gonna bull dog Pac hes a hell of a fighter but Casamayor and juan diaz i think were more impressive wins for Marquez then the two for marquez casamayor wasnt a shot part time fighter like oscar and juan diaz was never knocked down or out before and he was a young guy its not about size its about skill and fact is the last prime and ready “skilled” fighter pac has fought was marquez hes simply picking and choosing now he could of foght joan guzman or nate campbell but he choose to fight guys that were easier targets with less “Boxing” skills and for these little female guys that are talking about cottos fight with clottey i bet if your eye was cut you wouldnt even be able to find your way home let alone finish a fight truth is if pac wins no one can say anything more except maybe hes wont fight boxer like mosley unless the fight with may happens but if he loses then it al caught up with him pac is simply the peoples champ who beat the last peoples champ speed always wins and hes making sure that his opponents are slower than him and if mayweather dont fight pac or mosley next hes nothing more than a side note of the era even thought i believe boxing is hit and dont be hit eventually he will need to give the people what they want and all these people calling him boring cuz he wont go toe to toe are merely mma fans spilling over and forming their ignorant opinion as boxing has always been hit and dont get hit I.E busters win over tyson
Hey James!How many times did Marquez hit the canvass or got knocked down or felt he had to lie down temporarily during his bouts with the Pacman? Oh 4 time, quatro veses! Very impressive! Wow, that sounds like a real winner. You and Perez and all other pachaters, get over it! Your current Mexican fighters are way way behind the #1 boxer Pacquiao. Nana-nanana!
yeeah i agree,and in roubd 2 he hit hatton way to hard an should have been disqualfied????????????
Although Pac was P4P before DLH and Hatton, I agree with Perez on this one. As a miner myself I can understand exactly what he’s talking about. Most people don’t understand miners like us, but I do understand Perez being a miner. Miners like Perez are really a rare breed, and only miners like us can really articulate the ins and outs of boxing. Because were both miners, I agree that JMM beat Pac both times. I think JMM was robbed the first fight because the 3 knockdowns shouldn’t have been counted as such. If you look at the replay, from a miner’s point of view, JMM actually was pushed in the jaw twice by Pac which is illegal hence Pac should have been penalized. The third knockdown was actually a slip because the floor was wet.
I don’t especially like or dislike cotto,that was until now,i praying he taking positives out of this and thats:
having to fight at a catchweight.
having a massively smaller cut of the pie.
wanting to impose sanctions on you if you fail the weight.
and bizarely have your title on the line,even tho its a different weight.
To me it says one thing,and that manny is absolutely terrified of him and i pray he does a real number on manny because if he doesn’t this will run and run and become the normal with him, and by the time we done pacfans will be saying he the greatest of all time
A real cotto fan couldn’t care less if he will be fined $1M or $100M for every pound above 145. If cotto is really a big time pro he should be able to make the agreed weight no excuses and none of this useless fuzz should be a big issue.
We should be buzzing about the Mayweather-Marquez fight. What the heck is happening to that fight anyway? Is it still on? Looks like it’s gone to obscurity. Problems with tickets and PPV sales?
a big mistake for kuto, i mean cotto, he will just be embarrased by pacquiao. it’s ok f u will be ko’d by bigger opponents but by smaller man it’s very embarrassing. i advice cotto to back out and look for bigger and slower opponents. according to our boxing xperts (liam and perez he he he…experts…my goodness)they didn’t even have the idea how could cotto beat pacman.
he he he now again all latino are re-grouping against a very small filipino boxer (mexicutioner). i am inviting all pacman hater to watch P4P see what will happen. they will watch how pacman will disfigure cottos face like what happen to all previous latino opponents. hoping after the fight cotto will not hang his gloves. the scenario will be the same to de la hoya, cotto will become like a sparring partner. i guess all pacman hater are nervous he he he…imagine their bigger, heavier, taller and stronger boxer will be annihilated and embarrased.
You cannot have a world welterweight title fight where the champ is forced to fight at 145. THAT IS CATCHWEIGHT… next pacquiao will want to stipulate cottos shorts hotel room and pre fight meal. Its getting beyond a joke…does he want cotto blindfolded for the fight aswel? i hope cotto destroys him
Pac and roach did the same thing to Oscar when they fought.
It worked then,why not do it again…
Manny Pacquiao and his team are all clowns! They are killing boxing. Cotto to finish Pacquiao around 7th
lmao cant wait til this fight and the mayweather and jmm fight also and berto mosley hopfully that happens also
pac is right…he’s just making sure that cotto will weigh not over 145 on weighing day…as the contarct says at 145 limit…if you really understands boxing…you know pac is right…and if pac will be over the 145 limit, he’ll get same penalty as paying 1 million$…its the other way around…so stop whinning and twisting the facts…
Quote from above” The Filipino already has everything else in his favor – weight, revenue split of 65-35, gloves, location and likely Cotto’s WBO title on the line – but this is going a bit too far”.
Here are the factual comparison:
Size : No need to discuss further, clearly advantage in favor of Cotto but Manny is a known speedy fighter so here Manny is in advantage but not much.
Speed : Cotto is not a slouch, in fact he is fast specially with his punches if you watch his previous fights.
Weight : To meet at 145lb catchweight, Cotto, a natural welterweight 147lb, just need shred his excess body fat 2lb while Manny has to fatten himself to 5 lbs. It is clear that Manny will
jeopardize his speed advantage while Cotto will a bit faster than he was. Advantage Cotto.
Power : Cotto has powerful punches than Manny. Advantage Cotto.
Knockout potential. Both can potentially knockout each other. Historically, Cotto has a higher knockout rate compared with Manny. Advantage Cotto.
Based on above, Cotto has all the advantages except the speed department. So, what the hell is Mr. Perez is trying to portray?
The split revenue is naturally goes to Pacquiao being #1P4P and ‘the man’. When ODLH was PPV king, Pac only got $5M while Oscar got a whoopin $20M guarantees. So, Pac’s getting more this time is justifiably right
Cotto’s WBO title is at stake and also Pac risks his P4P#1 status to a bigger guy. This makes the fight interesting for all boxing fans. The WBO title defense is mandatory requirement from WBO whether Cotto and his defenders will like it or not. So, Mr. Perez your argument is totally wrong.
In any agreement, there has to be a penalty if it isn’t reached. You don’t need to be a lawyer to know that. When I was in elementary school and I come to an agreement with a classmate, the first thing we talk about is what happens if it is not followed. An agreement without penalty is not an agreement at all, it’s toothless.
If you’re complaining why the penalty is too big, then it only means you intended to break the agreement from the start.
If Pacquiao beats Cotto will everyone shut up and stop questioning his success against past-prime or overrated opponents? It’s not his fault the other fighters weren’t ready. Especially Hatton. Most experts said that Hatton’s size and strength would dominate Pacman but he couldn’t deal with the speed and got caught with a knockout punch. We all know speed kills in boxing and Pac is not going to stand in front of Cotto. I don’t think Cotto will be able to deal with the speed and angles that Pac will bring. We will see.
Yo Tmoney201 ur b***h ass shouldn’t even be commenting on this article cause ur boy Mosley is still begging 2 fight some1! U would think at 37 yrs old he would act like a veteran instead of a hooker on the street begging 2 get u know what! Cotto don’t need 2 dat HGH takin dude!! So stop hatin on cotto n the pacman n mind ur business!! Cause right here u ain’t got no buisness ur boy still willing 2 give up his ass 4 a fight right about now!! So fall back homey!!
Will Cotto still fight Pacman despite all the demands? YES. Because it’s only Manny who can give him MONEY. Money moves the world. Mr. Perez im sure you’re just jealous cause what i know you’re dammm broke.
Have the weigh-in on the same day as the fight at welterweight limit of 147lbs. What say you Manuel Perez? Is that not fair enough??? Then we can forget about the catchweight and have 2 boxers similar in size when they fight? Fair is fair! Even the great Henry Armstrong had same day weigh-in when he fought.
As a neutral boxing fan, what I can make out myself is this review being quite biased & putting down achievements made by Manny Pacquiao.
Manny does NOT need Cotto. He can choose any other fight he wants apart from Money Mayweather. As Manny is #1 contender for WBO Welterweight, Cotto either has to put the title on the line or face giving it up (IMO the title fight should be at 147lb limit).
BUT, wasn’t De La Hoya vs Hopkins Middleweight title at a catchweight of 158lbs? Leonard vs Linode was a catchweight? This is the first fight Manny Pacquiao recently will fight at a catchweight, so you can throw that arguement right out of the window.
Also, Pacquiao vs De La Hoya…Wasn’t it Oscar who dictated EVERYTHING to do with the fight? Manny Pacquiao had to move up over 8lbs to fight, did he not? Pacquiao was just happy to agree to fight, as he was getting the biggest paycheck of his career. It was OSCAR who came in dehydrated & messed up weight…So is that Pacquiao’s fault? Experts & fans thought this was a complete MIS-MATCH when it was announced; Now it’s a cheap win for the ‘supposed’ underdog.
Again, many people thought Hatton would beat Pacquiao at 140lbs, convinced Manny would not handle his size or power. NOBODY can say they expected Pacquiao to beat Hatton in that fashion. Please name a boxer of that weight who would put Hatton down just like that.
Is 145lbs not a legitimate welterweight range? You all need to go and read up on your boxing knowledge.
If it’s true, then this penalty fine is B.S if Pacquiao really requested it! I don’t know what he’s playing at.
But he is P4P King, everything else he wants is justifiable. Cotto’s name is just in the spotlight because it is linked to Manny, not the other way round.
Either way, I hope the fight eventually happens so we can see two warriors in the ring (Instead of that B.S Mayweather/Marquez fight).
For you Perez, it’s not Pacquiao’s wins, but THE FASHION IN WHICH HE WON. Tell me the boxers that would do that to De La Hoya & Hatton. All Pacquiao has to worry about is himself on the fight night, NOT if his opponent is dehydrated or lacking basic defense.
Probably because the fines aren’t ever even close to $1 million. This is way overboard and is coming accorss as heavy handed. It smells of greed.
cotto doesnt have to take the fight!
Why does manny try and change the rules of boxing. He wants the fight at 145, he wants all the money, he wants the WBO 147 belt, he wants cotto to be blind folded…??? I lost all respect for pacman and his fans. Mosley or Cotto will KO pacman.
Cotto is not as big as an attraction compared to Pac. Plain and simple. Don’t hate on Manny because he beat bigger guys than him. Show both sides of your arguments.If you Mr Perez believe Cotto will win, stop making so many excuses coz you’re making a fool of yourself. Talk is cheap. Why not just bet all your life’s savings this november 14 on Cotto and prove all your claims against Manny’s accomplisments are based on unbiased grounds. Remember all these articles you wrote coz after November 14, your writing days are over. You are gonna be EXPOSED.
hey, zada, Manny is truly a poor guy that can make Cotto get richer just for one day on Nov. 14.
if thats the case zada then it would be pretty embarrassing for a bigger fighter in cotto to lose then. all the pressure is on him right? and if hes that good why doesnt he go after people his own size or bigger like paul williams
Well what else is new. I tell you what after this fight Mannys new nick name it will be Mrs.Pacman. I had a lot of respect for him. How ever after all the crying and his unreallystics demands and all the none sence talking by Freddy Roach i’m staring to really dislike this guy and the people behind him.
i hope to god cotto destroys him, if he doesnt then theres no justice in boxing these days
At the end of the day all this isn’t gonna matter! The fight will proceed n pacman is gonna get exposed not cotto! We all don’t know if all these alligations r true or not! But 1 thing is 4 sure the fight will happen! I’m a cotto fan n sometimes ur articles do become kind of the same o thing! U can say any top fight consider on the p4p list was 2 fight pacmans last 3 fights will also b unbeatin wit 3 kos! He was just at the right place at the right time! U can’t knock pacman 4 that! But that’s the beauty of it is that Cotto now is at the right place at the right time! While manny has looked unreal his last 3 fights cotto has has been struggling at best! But the difference is cotto opposition was way way tougher than mannys! So therefore every1 is so high on manny n suspect about cotto that manny is the favorite. Perfect situtation 4 cotto 2 take advange of n there’s not a doubt n my mind that cotto will beat down pacman!!! Wit all due respect 2 pacmans fans!!
hey vladimir! he’s jus keepin it real. don’t hate! if u don’t like his articles then move along…
So let me get this straight. Pacman is a joke for making ODLH come down to 147 and Cotto down to 145 but Marquez is a freakin hero for making Mayweather come down to 143-144? Did I miss something here?
C’mmon guys, we all know Pacman is the best fighter right now and going up against welterweight champion like Cotto is a big thing I would like to see Mayweather against Mosley if he got balls to face him in catch weight.
All you Pacman Nut Huggers and Nut Kickers. I think Pacman’s nuts are pretty sore by now. Can we try to save the Mayweather and Marquez fight. They are no headlines to be found for this fight.
Let the negotiations for the Pacman/ Cotto fight materialize and the contract ink dry. Too much press. Mr. Perez, thanks for pumping up the Pacman/ Cotto fight, but can you write something controversial about Mayweather/Marquez so that the fight isn’t cancelled due to lack of interest and publicity?
Pacman can’t imagine how hard it’s gone be beaten with 8 oz. gloves.
El Nuevo Dia, the local news paper in PR says that Pacman is also asking for 8 oz. gloves and “high hells” shoes.
I cant wait to see Pacuiao sparked out on the canvas. That will be well worth the pay per view.
the whole pacteam sucks…they are a bunch of cry babies…NEXT THEY WILL ASK COTTO TO HAVE A BLIND FOLD AND ONE HAND BEHIND HIS BACK….pacman entourage you are joke and you will get your ass kicked.
I agree, specially Mr. Pérez