Pacquiao Should Stop Dragging Boxers Down in Weight
By Liam Santiago: I am a big fan of Manny Pacquiao. But I wish he would stop demanding boxers come down from their natural weight. What gives Pacquiao the right to demand boxers lose extra weight than what they are comfortable losing. Of course, this gives Pacquiao a big advantage. His opponent is likely to be weak after pushing his body to extreme limits to make the weight limit. At this level, every pound makes a massive difference. As I say, I’m a huge fan of ‘Pac-Man’, but I wish he would fight at a weight limit, whether it’s lightweight, light welterweight or welterweight, I don’t care.
However, even though Miguel Cotto is going to have to shift an extra 2 pounds on November 14th this year, I am still predicting a Cotto knock out. Yes, them two pounds will play a part, but I think the Puerto Rican star can deal with it. If Cotto does not win it will be because he couldn’t deal with that drop in weight. Before the Oscar fight critics said Oscar would be too big, but, as I’ve said, the weight had the affect. Before the Hatton fight critics said Hatton would be too big and strong, but Hatton’s poor defense was embarrassingly exposed. Fighting Miguel Cotto, I imagine, will be somewhat different. Cotto should deal with the weight ok and he won’t have a weak defence ; plunging forward with his chin out to dry, like Hatton did. I know it has been said before, but I see power and size being the key factor. I predict Cotto to stop Pacquiao in round 9 or 10.
But, the big question is Can Cotto handle that extra two pound drop in weight. If it does bother him and he loses energy like Oscar did, Pacquiao will win and the referee will probably stop the fight. I don’t want to see Pacquiao’s legacy built on fights where his opponents were drained that badly they could only stand there and take Pacquiao’s shots. That’s no legacy. However, like I said I am a big fan of Pac-man. What he did against Diaz and Hatton was incredible. He has amazing power and speed and I believe he does deserve his pound for pound spot. The fight I really want to see Pacquiao in is not with Mayweather. Its Marquez 3.
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Liam, you’re absolutely nonsence writer, shame yourself!!!
To: Junmax,
The only reason why cotto had a hard time with Joshua is because he got hit on the head. Cotto is a lot younger, stronger, & power puncher. I don’t know why you Philipines think Pacman will win because when Cotto beats him, Pacman will be taken out the boxing picture. (just like every other boxer)
wow blaming manny for the oscar fight. oscar was the one who made that fight at that weight (147). And actually, this is the first catchweight manny will fight in. And why bomb pac at this? its not like its never been done before. Julio Cesar Chavez vs Pernell Whitaker at the same catchweight as this fight 145 pounds. How come no one is throwing bombs at chavez for making pernell go down 2 pounds under?
Liam Santiago shall we arrange for u to meet pac man so u can suck him off. LOL even propose to him.U stupid guy he’s overrated and Mayweather will teach him a lesson if pacman ever accepts he’s not as big as money and takes what he gets in a 60 40. Cotto may even do him. LOL Jerk
2007 cotto 146.25lbs. against mosley
2007 cotto 146.5lbs. against judah
2008 cotto 146.5lbs. against gomez
2008 cotto 147lbs. against margarito Cotto TKO
2009 cotto 146lbs. against clottey
I THINK GOING DOWN TO 145lbs. will NOT HURT COTTO IF REHYDRATED PROPERLY
I want people to know,I train fighter for many years,professional,never one of my fighter, after their weight-in,if the fight is 147pounds,the next day they put up 10 to 12 pounds minimum ok,and I have like 35 fighters ok,paquiao is a very good fighter but team hatton and team de la hoya had the wrong aproach to the fight,both wanted to be fast or speed and speed never defet pounds this game is mesure by pounds you have to be biger than you opponent.
st*pid! its called “catch-weight” pacquiao goes up and cotto goes down. thats fair. it wouldnt be fair if pacquiao willl fight cotto in cottos class weight.
are you kidding me?? FYI cotto fought clottey at 146 pounds…. cotto weighed 146 on fight night to fight a BIGGER GUY – joshua clottey.. i dont know why he cant do the same to fight a SMALLER GUY – pacquiao.. pacquiao has already jumped ten divisions from where he started his pro career.. if he could weigh at 146, then all he has to do is shed 1 POUND to make it to 145.. obviously the reason why cotto is forcing pacman up is either he wants to slow pacman down or he’s afraid to fight him
Didn’t the greats like Sugar Ray use catch-weights in some of their fights? So you fools go ahead and try explain it to them.
Really now, this article sucks. It’s just another one of those articles finding some lame excuse to take away what Manny Pacquiao is trying to achieve. Idiots. Boring.
I will shot myself if my name is LIAM because i dont want to be named like a blogger who lost his integrity…
too right you are douche mate cus u aint cumin bk on here lol
So if Cotto wins, he won because he was that good. and on the other hand, if Pacquiao wins, he won because Cotto couldn’t handle himself at 145?
What kind of logic was that? You looked like a huge pathetic loser back there.
Without the catchweight, we can only dream of Pacquiao-Cotto. What, you think it’s alright for Pacquiao to come in at 148 while Cotto enters the ring at 154-156?
And who the hell did Pacquiao drag down in weight? ODLH made Pacquiao fight him at welter, not the other way around. Surely, you didn’t think it would’ve been better for Pacquiao not to have fought De La Hoya at all because that would just make you look more dumber. ODLH wanted Pacquiao for his resume and Pacquiao wanted ODLH for his resume.
you moron!!! what an article… you dont understand it well regarding the weight issue.
liam santiago simply doesn’t know the business of boxing….catchweight is good for the fans and boxing! that way we can have a dream fight like those boxers that fans want to see fight though they are not on the same weight…this is the best years for boxing with the pacman making things happen..
Do you think PACMAN will fight @ Junior middle wt. w/ Oscar Delahoya?…or Pacman will fight HOPkins or Royjones in their wt. class?..its just a simple logic!..the answer is a BIG NO!.liam, find another job pls….
“Weight limits are there for a reason. They prevent boxers getting seriously injured.” — Hey Mr.writer! I’d like you to know that “Catch Weight Limits” are there also for a reason to prevent boxers from serious injuries…148 is manny’s heaviest weight while Cotto can plunge up to 160 or more. They are not in the same weight category that’s why they agreed on catch weight. And your right also by saying 2 lbs will play a part in the fight but obviously 12 lbs difference will play more here a part than the 2 lbs that u r saying. Right?
Hey Author! Don’t blame PACMAN about dragging his opponents down in weight, pacman(P4P king) is merely laying down the challenge to his opponents — that’s why they call it “CHALLENGER”. Pacquiao was once a challenger and he accepted the terms of the champs he once fought with, and he rose to the challenge, always! Blame his opponents for taking on the challenge. And to the wannabe challengers out there: “Don’t accept to fight the pacman if you think can’t rise up to the challenge, and if you think you can, lay it all on the line! e.g. COTTI’S BELT!
“Pacquiao Should Stop Dragging Boxers Down in Weight”. He he… Like they don’t have choice. They can say ‘No’ to Pacquiao, you know.
I say Pacman vs Cotto fight in 147lbs SAME DAY WEIGHT-IN in during fight night with $2million penalty for every pounds or lb. in excess of 147lbs welterweight limit. I am sure this is excellent for both fighters especially forPacman so Cotto can have no excuse that he was not defending his title in full welterweight limit of 147lbs and Pacman can finally erased alldoubters at the same time he is assured that Cotto will not be more than 147lbs during when he steps in the ring with him… No excuses no alibi what so ever .
Winner takes all the glory. But purse split Manny should demand 80:20 sharing of all the proceeds in favor of MegaManny and me being CPA that is a very fair sharing.
If Cotto play hard to get and demand bigger purse them Team Pacquiao can cancell the fight a fight Shane M.
I say Pacman vs Cotto fight in 147lbs SAME DAY WEIGHT-IN in during fight night with $2million penalty for every pounds or lb. in excess of 147lbs welterweight limit. I am sure this is excellent for both fighters especially forPacman so Cotto can have no excuse that he was not defending his title in full welterweight limit of 147lbs and Pacman can finally erased alldoubters at the same time he is assured that Cotto will not be more than 147lbs during when he steps in the ring with him… No excuses no alibi what so ever .
Winner takes all the glory. But purse split Manny should demand 80:20 sharing of all the proceeds in favor of MegaManny and me being CPA that is a very fair sharing.
the writter thinks only the opponents of Manny, why don’t you think the side of Manny? Every sports have their own rules and regulations, same as boxing,why they have weight limits? why are there negotiations? etc. We are in 20th century, they know pros and cons of the sports, not unlike you!
Bulletproof. Byebye mate.no more commenting for you. lol
Read my name. When my parents named me they were dreaming of this fight. I dunno, but I think a bit of that came out in my name. Just got this feeling it did you know?
mr.perez have you forgotten when was the last time pacman has demanded to his opponents to drain weight?in his fight against hatton who demanded it,that was agreed both sides because the fight being a title bout at 140, and in his fight with golden boy,did you forget that oscar willingly shaved off weight just to meet pacman,because even in that weight he is still in advantage physically. furthermore did pacman drained diaz?nor marquez,barrera or morales?in all those fights did you ever considered pacman had the physical advantage? common refresh your memory sir.
Liam, cotto last fought at 146lbs. against clottey, that means 146lbs. is his naural fighting weight. do you think that 1 lb. less is hard to lose for cotto? think again!! thats why cotto agreed in the first place that the weight for the fight would be 145lbs. cause he knows he can easily make that weight. remember that cotto is the naturally bigger guy.
they just hate PACMAN…thats it!!! they cant accept that an asian fighter is the best pound for pound in the world now..PACFANS lets jst be humble..let the PACHATERS say what they want coz in the end, we’ll be rejoicing once again for the sweet victory against cotto and PACHATERS..lets just support pacman and his team once again..
PS: expect that if cotto lost the fight its bec of weight drain from pachaters!
THIS WRITE UP IS JUST FOR HITS!
Think first! The issue has been resolved already. Why is there a need to put this write up if Cotto indeed say he can fight at 145. Cotto’s demand is already met. As a matter of fact Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey at their weigh in. You said it yourself having limits has purpose to protect boxers, didn’t it cross your mind your own words back fired against you because Manny is not a legit welterweight (he’s natural may even be a lightweight) and that catch weight might also save Manny’s life on the line???
how dare you say you’re a pac fan!!!
a boxing fan, pac or cotto fan will not judge a fight before it actually happens with excuses like what you did… what the hell is with the line “If Cotto does not win it will be because he couldn’t deal with that drop in weight” crop then you follwed it up with “But, the big question is Can Cotto handle that extra two pound drop in weight. If it does bother him and he loses energy like Oscar did, Pacquiao will win and the referee will probably stop the fight” …
that for you is a pac fan? please stop calling your self one coz you’re not! you’re a disgrace…i guess it wont bother you at all if you wont be called a pac fan…it wont bother me either. and i assume nothing will matter…what matters is you keep on saying you’re a fan but it shows that you’re not so cut the crop…
you already created an excuse for the inevitable cotto defeat as early as now…
got the message pal? you can say what ever you want but dont call your self a pac fan.
Gosh…how low can you get!
hey you…lets play games as it want to be…its boxing and everybody does it…but its so sad to hear comments like this tht let the pound-for-pound King down…lets not like crab mental ill..we will give d price to deserving person like Manny who endures all thing including his life as well as his soul fro his family…and now he harvested all his tirelessly venture..nevertheless he took it fair and square…let us like pharisees in the bible tht became lame and tame…plss consider…manny is a great man let it not envy and jealosy drag him down..common fight if anybody biliv u can survivve d guy from Gen.santos City,Pilipinas sell all ur properties and square it on No, alibisNo reservations…bsyds dis s boxing not a beauty contest…about JMM okay he is good bt he has to beat 1st Money Mayweather…and he will be next no one else…bt…can he beat d typhoon guy…?make ur mind kids..manny is waiting..filipinos are cramming for more manny fights..solid and prayerfull..goodluck
liam stop pretending that you’re a pacman’s fan…stripped-out your mask it’s obvious..be man enough to face the truth or are you?
Everyone of us is free to express his own views regarding the Pacquiao-Cotto fight at catchweight of 145 lbs. It is natural for Manny to look for that catchweight becoz Cotto is naturally a big fighter at welterweight while Pacquiao is a champion at 140 lbs. I think it is fair enough to fight at 145. Manny will add 5 lbs while Cotto to reduce by 2 lbs. Welterweight limit is 141 to 147. Others says dragging opponent weight destroys Pacquiao’s credibility. For me, its no way. Pacquiao is going up and his opponent has been at 147 for so long. If u are on Manny Pacquiao can u do that fighting at 147? Maybe Manny will fight at 147 after this fight to Mosley or Mayweather while he is expanding and toughening his body. Mosley chasing Pacquiao at 140? maybe he will eat those words and face the harsh reality sooner. Pacquiao never retaliates to Mosley chasing many times. We have to remember Manny is an intellegent man and he has a better IQ than those who dont have respect to him.
To Liam Santiago,
What advantage of Pacman are you talking about? a guy who is a natural 135 pounder going up to 145 to fight a natural bigger, stronger, younger & one of the best boxer at welterweight who just weighed 146 on his last fight…Isn’t a big advantage to Cotto to drop just 1 lb?…you’re so BIAS with your observations…
Ei liam santiago r u dumb or what?
The pacqiao hater who poses as me is excommunicated
You know Liam! I like your style keep egging on the Pachuggers! It’s Showtime already even though nobody signs the dotted line yet! My namesake will be very very happy with this! The supposed bout will be held in November but it’s getting much publicity than the PBF-JMM fight! My namesake wanted it to happen because he has already advanced his TF from Uncle Bob!
You’re forgetting that Pacman started at 106lbs. and has only fought above 130 3x. he is already at a disadvantage. A catch weight is only evening things up.
Cant we just give credits to the fighter or team that won and give our respect to the fighter/team that lost.. Cmon, cant we be contented? At least we got to see a good match/game..
In this upcoming fight Cotto vs Pacman.. If Pacman wins, he wouldnt be given enough credit because he just beat a guy whose not the same fighter before he fought Margarito.
If Cotto wins, they’ll say that he beat a smaller guy that started his career at 106lbs..
Cmon!!
To Liam Santiago & Cotto fans, why not accept the truth that you are scared of Pacman? you’re making excuses right now because you believe Pacman will beat Cotto at 145. If it happens to be other boxer & can generate the same amount of money, I’m sure Cotto will put his title on the line & even drop to 141 lbs if needed. But Pacman is different fighter, he is the true pound for pound king & whatever the reasons proves that he could kick the ass of bigger opponents like Diaz, Dela Hoya & Hatton that’s why Cotto & his legions of fans wants to be sure that all the advantages will be on Cotto…you COWARDS!
Remember that Cotto weigh 146 in the Clottey fight! So i think it’s not that hard for him to drop another pound. These are just excuses if in case he loose the fight. But on fight night, I see Cotto at his best and in very good condition. No excuses please! Fools… Pac by stoppage Rd 11.
I am a big fan of Liam Santiago. But I wish he would stop telling lies.
liam santiago,
you know you sounds you have no knowledge in boxing. i dont know how come you are covering this boxing news. Before all of you guys predicted that pacquiao will have no chance of winning fighting delahoya. then you guys alos added that pacquiao accepted the fight because of money only. but you saw a different fight, the small guy beated the bigger guy with heart.
Hi Liam, I think you are absolutely wrong on this one. How many fighters did Manny fight with Catch weights? Only 1 right? Did Manny demand the 147 weight limit? NO! How many divisions did Manny skip to fight at 147? 2!
I 100% agree with Liam. Pac is a washed out loser. Fight Marquez and accept defeat for the 3rd time. Not a drained dlh or a weight dead hatton. Your a fraud Pacquiao. Live with it. Liam Santiago talks sense, you guys just dont WANT TO BELIEVE IT. if we had more people like Liam in this world, it wouldn’t be such a messed up place. DAMN YANKS. Nothing but trouble.
Don’t pretend to be a Pacman fan, why blame him(pacman) that he make his enemy to go down in weight. Look how Pacman KO’s his enemy fighting David Diaz and Hatton on their wight division, do Pacman drain them? No! is the answer… Pacman is the one ho make weight to go up fighting big guys and make a danger for a small fighter go up in weight for fighting a Big Guy and legitimate weight on their division. How shame on you Liam, i see your on side De le Hoya, why blame him(Oscar) insted of Pacman? De la Hoya is the one who want a fight to Pacman and make the weight meeting at 147lbs, you don’t know that? Because Oscar make a revenge on their fallen Hero’s of Mexico’s Boxing fighter and Oscar was failed to knock out Pacman and why blame Pacman not Oscar while Oscar said on the fight night he admited to him self that he is strong and good condition. But in the end of the fight that he(Oscar) lost and con’t go on to fight afried for a knocking out by Pacman hand. What then many excusess when a fighter loses? Dont pretend to be a Pacman fan, because people will see how you published your writing here.
145 is just right for this fight. any other way would be a disadvantage to the other. if above 145 then let’s cancel the fight. if below 145 then let’s cancel the fight. either you get a catchweight or no fight. we can all live with that including the fighters.
“I am still predicting a Cotto knock out. Yes, them two pounds will play a part, but I think the Puerto Rican star can deal with it. If Cotto does not win it will be because he couldn’t deal with that drop in weight.”
.. Did you say that you are a Pacquiao fan?! You are f*cken nuts then…
John. Why do you ask?
Hey! liam santiago, what is your email address?
Liam-”I predict Cotto to stop Pacquiao in round 9 or 10.” PACMAN TROOPS-WHAT IS YOUR COMMENTS??? For me, Liam is predicting something that is very impossible..IN YOUR DREAMS, LIAM! HAHA. This author is purely a anti Pacman!! All authors of Boxing24.com are all INSANE!!! PACMAN TROOPS, AM I RIGHT??
yeah this writer is ignorant. as a writer it is your responsibility to find more facts before before you write a story. if catchweight is not acceptable then the boxing organizations should ban this so that no boxers today will use it. why it was allowed in the past and it was still allowed today.
im only remember that pacquiao in a catch weigth is de la hoya,hmmmmm, but dela hoya was coming to pacman not pacman arange the deal, opportunately that pacman have courage to accept the figth with dela hoya,pacman is also have big diadvantage of size and power fighting cotto, beside only 2 pounds but cotto wiegth in wiegh in vs clottey is 146 pound
i’ve read this kind of article so many time ago in the past everytime the pacman will fight a high profile fighter, and i can’t help but say…
keep on dreaming man!
Liam, As a boxing writer putting statements like this on the internet, you are bound to get criticize. The title alone is a joke. The nature of your responses also make you very unprofessional. I don’t think you know boxing too well to give credit where credit is due.
okay, okay i give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please stop making comments….please!!!!!!!!! remember this… this is gonna be the last article that i will be writing!
Ignorant!…
better hung up your keyboard if you don’t know what you’re writing!
For your information mr. santi-Ago, this is the first time paquiao will ever fight where his handlers demanded for a catchweight. he fought barerra and Marquez at jr. featherweight and featherweight, morales at featherweight, diaz at lightweight, de la hoya at welterweight and hatton at jr. welterweight.
did pacquiao demanded de la hoya to go down at his natural weight at that time which is 135lb? no, they met at 147. so, where’s your point?
Crabs and more crabs. Before this supposed fight with Cotto, when did Pacquiao ask his opponents to come down in weight? ODLH offered to fight Manny at 147 lbs, not the other way around. Get your facts straight!
The reason Team Pacquiao wants to fight Cotto at 145lbs is that Cotto blows up to middleweight come fight night while Manny remains at Welterweight. So do you still think that Manny will be fighting a welterweight at fight night? The weight limit of 145lbs is to ensure that Cotto does not become too big for Manny on fight night.
I think the best way to have this fight is to have a same day weigh in at 147 lbs. This way the bout is a true welterweight fight.
It’s not fair to say Pacquiao has been dragging his opponents down in weight. With Oscar, it wasn’t like pacquiao was asking him to fight him in HIS COMFORTABLE weight..dont forget that Pacquiao also needed to jump 2 weight class. ODLH was the draw and he was dictating the terms. It’s also clear that the writer has all his excuses. Hatton, for godsake, was just not in the league of pacquiao not because he was bad..but because pacquiao was just so damn good. No matter what u say about hatton’s defense and other flaws, don’t forget how hatton dismantled the other good boxers. Hatton was only beaten by Pacquiao and PBF. And the way pacquiao destroyed him, that was too much. About Cotto, you should be praising how pacquiao accepted the terms. They will be fighting at 145 and Cotto, in his last fight, weighed 146. How difficult could that be for cotto? Pacquiao’s size, if you may think correctly, is fitted most at 135. When he dismantled hatton at 140, he was already showing his greatness in that fight. He was not supposed to beat hatton that way. Now, if he fight the best Cotto at 145, how can u say he’s dehydrating boxers? Did u not realized that he is not supposed to be campaigning in this weight division? He is a legitimate 135 fighter, size wise. Not because pacquiao’s so great that you should be asking and expecting too much from him and aking him to fight at 147. Th great pacquiao also has to even the playing field a little bit. I ask you..can you imagine Juan Diaz or Michael Katsidis fighting Cotto at 145? Will you criticize Diaz or katsidiz for dragging Cotto at 145? Also considering in his last fight, he weighed 146.
Im not paid to deal with people like
Fight at 145 lbs with no Title at stake..
that what cotto wants…
but Manny would have the lions share at PPV..
80% for Pacquiao and 20% for cotto..
lets see..
Can’t we all just get a b-o-n-g!?
Hey RealDeal. I should have this pathetic idiot Bigtex of soon. Im sure theres a site for idiots like that , that dont no a thing about boxing and want to fight with strangers. What a wierdo! lol. Must have had a strange up bringing. lol.
|Anyway he’s on his bike soon. lol. Goodbye Bigtex, go and suck on a granny’s breast and get a life wierdo
JUST FOR LIAM.
Do you think first before you write? Your right. Weight limits are there for a reason. They prevent a fighter to have an advantage on another fighter. But your looking at it the wrong way man. The limit is set the for fighters not to go beyond the limit but they are allowed to fight below the limit but within such. Otherwise it would be another weight class. If Oscar won the fight with Pacman, then what would you say about that? Again, If it’s Margarito that Oscar fought at welterweight, I believe that it’ll be much more competetive, why? Because Oscar will be able to find Margarito and hit him. Why did Oscar look shot, old, drained whatever reason you may have. Because he can’t find Pacman. The speed shows and it was his strategy. But then again your the man. You write very well. So the fight between Pacman and Cotto should be at 147. If both fighters weigh in at 146, then the fight should not be a legitimate welter weight since not fighting in the limit. Then what weight class would it be then? Think about that?
The real deal! Big Rex wont be commenting on here much longer. lol. say ur byebyes rex
You said “Pacquiao should stop…”.
How many times has he ever fought at a catchweight?
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liam your one sided opinion is dumb, 141 to 147 is a legitimate welterweight, that’s a fact! pacman does not have advantage of 145 weight, he has advantage bec.of his speed and stamina.if cotto can match that he has a chance beating pacman,i’m a pacman fan but i believe cotto is a much stronger puncher,if cotto could hit pacman with solid punch he could win but i doubt it bec. pacman is evasive and quicker.
I just email you Small tex, I haven’t heard from you Bring it on dude! I’m in cali
that’s is the tricky part of the business..u should know that!
california yo bring it!
Im now going to ban alot of commenters who have left SRIOUSLY abusive comments if thats you…bye bye.
BIG TEX.. get a life. where am i meant to be getting your email and why would i waste my time emailing you.
SO if you really a fan of PACMAN you should be at a side of PACMAN than criticize him. He is not a GOD of BOXING only a gifted one but he has also limititions & vulnerabilities.
let me all refresh ur memory. Pacquiao in his entire career has fought mostly big opponents. He even climbed different divisions so fast that’s why at age 30 he will hav his chance of getting the record of 7 weight division belts which nobody in the history of boxing has done. Yes, Dela Hoya had to cut down his weight but it’s because he is so eager to fight the great but small pacquiao thinking (along with his team and the rest of the people) that he can easily defeat the very small pacquiao. You also forgot that Pacquiao had to climb 2 weight class and you even predicted ODLH will dismantle him. During the weigh in, ODLH, for me didn’t look bad.Whether he was dehydrated too much or not, pacquiao also trained hard and roach came up with a beautiful game plan. We saw the skills of pacquiao the beautiful game plan of roach so it’s not so easy to say that it was all because ODLH was drained. Even if he was not, i stil think he wil hit the canvass maybe in the last few rounds. Almost everybody critized pacquiao saying he was so hungry for money that he was being stupid in taking the fight. So please, don’t make excuses or at least don’t take away all the credits from pacquiao. Love it or hate it, i wil say pacquiao did something not most good boxers can do.
This story is ridiculous! Pacquiao goes for the big fights – Period! You dont find it dangerous for him fighting much larger fighters? He certainly hasn’t ducked anyone. Why dont you mention again that you are a big fan? I wasn’t getting bored enough before the third time! You are now crying about the 2 lbs that Cotto needs to lose. Look at the natural size difference! However Cotto is spent, he lost his edge. He will suffer the same outcome of the others. And you my friend are a friggin’ IDIOT!
What the hell are you? what do you think of Manny he is a aod of boxing? Cotto is defferent from De la Hoya so if he agrees to 145 same with 147. I think you dont really know about the boxing weight division.
Big Tex get a life man, I bet if someone show’s up at your house you will probably: a) cry like a baby and wet your pants b) call your friends over to help you out c) not open the door. Stop trying to punk someone because their opinion is different than yours. If you don’t agree with the Liam thats fine, you can express how you feel about the subject. But acting macho and trying to fight someone is being real stupid. You’re prob like a 4 foot midget that likes to talk a bunch of bull over the internet. GET A LIFE!!!
alright, alright… i’m wrong! i simply cannot understand why after my thirty years (8 years as an amateur, 10 years as pro with a record of 15-22 and 12 years as a writer) devoted to boxing, many still dont believe in what i say? yeah…maybe the punishment i got while still fighting in the ring took all the sense in my relatively smaller brain. i’ll have to have it examined before writing any piece again, i promise!
hahaha!writers crying already!
pahak you’re an idiot. Everyone ballons up during fight. Of course the fight is in the ring but that’s not what I care about. All I am saying is hey if ur packy wants the belt he should fight at the welter weight limit of 147 not 145. I don’t care what you say, if he wants to win his 7th title belt it should be at 147 bc that’s the weight cotto fought in. I don’t care if he fights cotto at 145, why? Because there is a high probability that Cotto will tire Pacman out, but thats my opinion and we can talk all we want about it but we have to see it to believe it. Anyways if manny went up to 147 to fight ODLH he should be willing to go to 147 to fight Cotto. I think it would be a good fight if it was at 147 because we could see history in the making if Pacman wins the fight. But Still, I understand the point that Liam is trying to get across. If Pacman really wants to be a true champion he should go up in weight, I don’t care if he started at 106 we all know that he is a big guy and he can handle guys like Ricky Hatton so he should do it. But hey 145 sounds good to me, but it won’t be as meaningful to me. Also, I would rather see Manny Vs Marquez rather than Mayweather vs Manny. I mean I wouldn’t mind seeing both but I hope Marquez wins and then fights pacman or something. Whatev
liam liam… where’s your brain boy? is it in your ass? gotta look urself in the mirror and see whether that skull holding that ugly face of urs has still some sense left in it? and please… stop pretending to be a fan of pacquiao. pacquiao does not need a fan as stupid as you are!
Yeah. Found a way to read your column. So if Cotto wins,then he’s great. If Pacman wins then it means nothing cause Cotto was drain by 2 the pounds. Agreed. It’s good that you said it upfront. I knew you would say that. Or maybe if Pacman wins Cotto is really a shot fighter. Right? Then Pacman is fighting for nothing. A win or a loss for Pacman on this fight does not mean nothing. No legacy. A**h**e
Anyway i think it’s just fair that Pacman just go up in weight than Cotto go down by 2 pounds. Cause it’s the welterweight. They should fight only at the LIMIT and not WITH IN THE LIMIT. F****R
how many boxers did pacquiao drag down in weight? he fought the greats like eric morales, marco antonio barrera, marquez, diaz and hatton at their natural weight. he won against dela hoya and golden boy complimented him saying he is the better man that night and not the reason of being weight-drained. pacman-cotto catch weight is 145. cotto weighed 146 against clottey. a pound will never ever make cotto drain his energy. believe it!!!
mr. writer, u r da 1 of many boxing writer & analyts predicted dat pac wil loss to dela hoya.
dude you’re a crap writer and knows nothing about boxing. Pac came from 106. I bet you’re a high school drop out. Quit being a writer and start working at McDonalds, then there will be Peace in the world and AIDS will be cured
I doubt any one would ‘whoop my ass’. I spent 30 years boxing which would help me alot. More than most of you sofa warriors can say!
But I will tell you right now, I would whoop Liam’s ass if he would like to meet me. What city you live in Liam?
hey joe, i say we can all agree to that..147 it is during fight night..bcoz that is the welter limit right? so why does cotto ballooned up to 160 during fight night..thats not welter thats middle weight you idiot..they bend the rules for that because, THEY DONT WANT TO PREJUDICE THE PROMOTIONAL ASPECT OF THE FIGHT DUE TO POSTPONEMENTS, BECAUSE FIGHTERS CANT MEET THE CONTRACTED WEIGHT DURING FIGHT NIGHT..so you say its fair? and to tell you joe, the fight is not on the scales you moron, its in the ring..cotto can weigh as much as 160 lbs during fight night whereas packy can weigh only 150lbs max..indeed the fight will still be in welter..coz the fight IS NOT ON THE SCALES..BUT IN THE RING..
*sigh*…another writer who doesn’t know what he’s talking about…1st of all, your title doesn’t make any sense. The only time pacman ask for his opponent to come down is against Dela Hoya. It wasn’t even a catch weight. Its an agreement between the two of them because ODH is too big for pacman so they have to meet somewhere. Besides, ODH agreed to that weight because he’d get a bigger slice of pie considering pacman is no. 2 p4p at that time or (considering PBF is still the p4p king eventhough he’s retired). Now on Cotto’s case, pacman has the right to demand because he’s the p4p king. He’s also the main attraction of the ppv buys. What I’m saying is that pacman has to get what he deserves. Cotto should be thankful that he’ll get to fight pacman because he would get not only his biggest paycheck of his career, but also a respect for fighting the p4p king. About the weighty issue, catch weight was invented for 2 boxers ready to meet in between 2 divisions because of the weight issue. I remember the fight with ODH and Bernard Hopkins was in catch weight and it’s a title fight. So for Cotto, If you’re not scared of MP, go put your title on the line and face MP not only for the belt, but also for the title of p4p king.
everybody needs to just shut the F up. why bash this writer, leave him alone. he’s only expressing his biased opinion. in my opinion, he knows his sh*t. because he knows that Mexican/Boricua fighters (young or old) 1. cant lose weight; 2. win fights unless they are the bigger men; and 3. if they do lose weight, they can no longer fight. we get your point Liam and we thank you for telling the truth like it is. Ill say it again so everyone is clear, today’s Mexican and Puerto Rican can’t fight win a fight without a huge weight advantage.
It’s the other way around. Boxer should stop asking Pacquiao go up in weight so they can make millions. But to be fair, let’s meet in between that’s why a catch weight comes in place. I don’t think Cotto ever made 5 millions on one fight in any of his fight even if you combined all of them. It’s fair, Pacquiao is a smaller guy but can make any boxing on the other side of the ring millionaire.
i notice all the articles that are coming from the boxing website is one-sided. i’ve read like 3 articles and they’re consistently downgrading pacman’s achievements. maybe it’s just a ploy to attract pacman fans to give comments and in the process, this website’s rating would go up because of the comments. as far as i can remember, i think this the same boxing website that described MANNY PACQUAIO as AN OVER RATED fighter! woww!! it’s just blew me away. i think all of the writers they hired here are paid to discredit PACman’s achievements and even future achievements.
watch the language MR writer
this writer claims he is a pacman..B.S. to that.. always complaining that packy is dragging cotto particularly for their upcoming bout this nov.14..to tell you mr. writer, cotto weighed 146 during the weigh-in in their cotto-clottey fight..147 is the limit..we can agree to that..if you want it to be fair, pacman can weigh 147 or 146 or 143 come fight night, so can cotto weigh that much come fight night? he aint and never will..so if you keep on criticizing packy for that, think mate, pacman will eat cotto if they will weigh 147 during fight night..1 lbs. lower than what cotto weighed of his last fight is not that much..and dont criticize packy for that, coz its more than fair for cotto, than weighing 147 during fight night..further, this is a welter bout so you insistently argue so, we pacfans can all agree that the fight be at welterlimit during fight night..FAIR?
What the hell.. They really don’t want to credit PACMAN for getting this fight. You know what even PACMAN win this Fight. Their are 2 alibi will come out.
1.If pacman win this in 145 lbs.. they say Cotto is so DRAINED.
2.If Pacman win this in 147 lbs.. they say Cotto is already DAMAGED GOODS.
This ALIBI.. for sure will come out after PACMAN killed Cotto.
PROMISE……….
this article is pure rubbish
Liam, I am somewhat disappointed i this article. I really thought youseemed like someone who knew boxing but I guess I was wrong. Did you eat an extra bowl of stupid cereal or something? I have read some really brilliant articles on this site, but for sure, This was not one! You are making it seem like Manny is the one calling out these guys and then demanding they give up a weight edge.
Oscar’s last fight was at 150 so he only had to come down 3 measly lbs and he came down quite early. His handlers felt that way he could get accustomed to that weight easily. He looked and said he felt great. Everyone feared for Manny’s life because Oscar was going to kill him. I saw no writers picking Manny.
Manny was supposed to jump 2 classes but topped at 143. Oscar had tje option to rehydrate but he did not. He wanted to have speed since he felt his natural height and reach would be too much
but Manny was way too quick and hit hard.
Fights are based on strategy and boxers ability to execute. Is it Manny’s fault that Oscar chose the wrong one or that Hatton tried to bully him and got killed? If Manny had been killed people would have said he went up too far.
Right now he knows his limit. He could stay and clean up that weak 140 class but people will say he ducked the 147 class. If he made them come down to 140 they will say he drained them. So to make the fight, he asked them to meet him, not 1/2 way but just a little.
Everybody prefers to see these fights rather than Bradley, Witter etc. They all make big $. So why dog Manny? He is a little man in the land of big men. Floyd is naturally a bigger man but he opts to fight smaller men, yet you pick on Manny?
You have set this article up in such a way that Manny can’t be rewarded. If he loses, well he lost but if he wins it was due to Cotto’s loss of weight and strength. There’s nothing wrong with your logic that commonsense won’t cure.
Come on, you can’t slag the man like that. Perez of all people is giving him props for taking this fight but of course is picking him to lose. So I am asking you to be a man and stick on one side. I see yo picked Cotto so when Manny kicks ass, please do not come back with your crap. If Manny loses, I will accept it. I accepted Super Roy’s loss and he was my all time fav.
this author is not a pacman fan as he claims…he doesnt know what he is braggaing…loser!!!!!
mr. Liam, welterweight is above 140lbs up to 147lbs, so 145lbs is a welterweight fight!!!
Hi Liam I guess you are not a boxing fanatic, you should understand carefully what u are talking. lol
This is the first pacquiao is asking for a catchweight…the DeLa HOya fight was at 147 lbs. A weight decided by DeLa Hoya to make Pacquiao fight him which he was coming from 135 lbs….Pac had to climb up 12 lbs and Dela Hoya from last fight with Forbes had to come down to 3 lbs only….
Liam, you are a disgrace,First you said you are abig fan of Pacquiao then you call him a fraud. are you a writer or some kind of a fat loser sitting in couch eating all day and your momma spoonfeeding you.
fivefivenine. Why would you shoot yourself if your name was Liam? Surely its not THAT bad.
Nepster – You havnt been abusive to me ans I not to you. Wish I could say the same for some of these ill minded idiots.
Dyep – Pac wont fight at 147, ok, thats fair enough, yet he wants cotto’s welterweight belt on the line. If the fight isnt at welter, no belt – in my view.
Mr Liam Santiago, you said boxing has weight limits to prevent serious injury to boxers. You said the Pacman Cotto bout must be at 147 lbs. Do you mean Cotto might be seriously injured by Pacquiao at 142 lbs if the former is at 145 lbs during weigh-in? Or during the actual fight when Pacquiao is 148 lbs and Cotto is at least 158 lbs? I think it is Pacquiao who is at risk of serious injury during the actual fight. Do you think Pacquiao is afraid to fight anyone of the welterweights including PWilliams if the weigh-in is done 2 hours before fight time? And you are saying you’re a Pac fan? You’re a fraud Pac-fan.
hey liam stop pretending to be a fan off manny, becayse in reality you are a hater.
Balat sibuyas pa pala itong kupal na to!!! Gustong kumita ayaw namang magpakatotoo!!!! Pero talagang ganun eh, dapat wag mo nang basahin ung mga sagot sa yo para di ka na-iimbyerna!!!! Sige tawagin na kitang Liam kupal, baka kasi naiintidihan mo itong sinusulat ko, para kasing Pinoy na intsik o Pintsik ung pangalan mo!!! He he he he!!!!! Good day!!! Relax!!!!
Hey everybody dont mind this two-bit writer you can read how he reply is not worth discussing this topic with this putang ina.
Hey Liam why is it that that when pacquiao is fighting at catchweight you are trying to discredit him, its as if catchweight is a pacquiao invention. Why dont you write about great american fighters who fought at catchweight. Is it because he is asian and the other are american? Fair is fair, write about it and we can call this even. Or are u trying to make this a race issue?
This is Crap! Manny never fought demanding fighthers to come down from their fighting weight. He didn’t try to ask Oscar to fight him at flyweight. Manny jump from lightweight to meet Oscar at welter., Oscar said that’s his ideal weight. Oscar fighting Cotto last year would most probably at 147lb. If Oscar beat Manny, do you think there’s this issue about his BS weight drain excuses? Whatever….
Hey Liam,
U only see Pac’s opponents drop weight, but u seem not to notice Pac fighting in a higher weight. u’r one-sided.
MR. LIAM PACQUIAO IS NOT STUPID LIKE YOU…THE REASON OF MEETING AT A CATCH WEIGHT IS TO MAKE EVEN THE WEIGHT DISPARITY BETWEEN TWO FIGHTERS.. DID YOU UNDERSTAND? PACMAN BEING SMALLER, GOES A BIT UP AND COTTO BEING MOST BIGGER GOES A BIT DOWN..ITS JUST FEAR STUPIDO!!
Did not Cotto’s nutritionis say it’s OK for him to fight at 144?
‘Dragging boxers down in weight’-my toes-my knees-my shoulders-my head! LOL. You are funny! Keep writing, it’s good to your health.
Liam! I would shoot myself if my name was Liam.
Did not Cotto’s nutritionist say that it is OK for Cotto to fight at 144!
I stand corrected.
HEY MR WRITER…..
DO YOU KNOW WHO MANNY PACQUIAO IS RIGHT NOW????
HE IS THE POUND FOR POUND KING!! HE IS THE “BIGGEST” ATTRACTIONJ IN BOXING RIGHT NOW!!
HE DOES HAVE THE “RIGHT” TO ASK BOXERS ANYTHING THAT HE WANTED.
when he was just new, did you hear him say anything like that? No right?
THEN THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING… I DONT HAVE TO REPEAT IT IF YOU ARE NOT A COMPLETE MORON.
If you are a “BIG” pacman fan ( well, t hats what you said) YOU SHOULD REALIZE WHO HE IS RIGHT NOW COMPARED FEW YEARS AGO….
OR MAYBE YOUR JUST ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOXING???
GROW UP MISTER!!
gumagawa ng mga katarantaduhan ung mga writers na to, gamit ang topic na negatibo tungkol kay pacman, para makarami sila ng hits sa internet.
Liam, i understand that you are a writer, and you’re just doing job by writing what’s on your mind. However, your writing should have FACTS to back it up! You don’t have clear FACTS to back up your article. You dis not make an assumption at all. You boldly said that “Manny should stop dragging down boxers on their weight”…this is the reason why people respond in a certain way to this article…1-ODLH came after Manny. He set the weight limit, glove weight, money etc…Manny did not say a single word to ODLH! instead he jus beat ass…2-Hatton fought Manny in his natural fighting weight. Hatton was undefeated at 140. and it was Manny’s first fight at that weight class! again, Manny beat Hatton’s ass easily…3-Cotto dropping down two lbs would not make a difference at all!!! as one of the responders said, he weighed in at 146 on the Clottey fight…more than anything you should give props to Manny for fighting bigger and stronger man in the sports. You are not a fan of Manny!!! You just an ordinary writer who obviously don’t have Facts to back up your article.
Well its the opponents of pacquiao who wants to fight him.. they want to fight him bec of the money that he brings. pacman is just levelling the playing field. For me he has the right to demnd a catchweight. bec it seems everyone wants to fight him right now since he is the best and those who challenges him think he is. so if they want to fight him they should make the necessary adjustments for the fight to happen
Liam, i understand that you are a writer, and you’re just doing job by writing what’s on your mind. However, your writing should have FACTS to back it up! You don’t have clear FACTS to back up your article. You dis not make an assumption at all. You boldly said that “Manny should stop dragging down boxers on their weight”…this is the reason why people respond in a certain way to this article…1-ODLH came after Manny. He set the weight limit, glove weight, money etc…Manny did not say a single word to ODLH! instead he jus beat ass…2-Hatton fought Manny in his natural fighting weight. Hatton was undefeated at 140. and it was Manny’s first fight at that weight class! again, Manny beat Hatton’s easily…3-Cotto dropping down two lbs would not make a difference at all!!! as one of the responders said, he weighed in at 146 on the Clottey fight…more than anything you should give props to Manny for fighting bigger and stronger man in the sports. You are not a fan of Manny!!! You just an ordinary writer who obviously don’t have Facts to back up your article.
Ei Liam, can u pleas enumerate all the boxers that PACMAN fought wherein he needed to ask them to go down? As for me, I can only remeber Prettyboy going down but Oskie even chose the weight.
The title of your article sucks!
Mga kababayan kong Pinoy hindi ba kau nakakahalata dito sa mga kupal na writer na to? Iisa ang tema nang sinusulat para maka-hit ng marami!!!!! Sagutin nyo sa tagalog para hindi makaintindi, ganyan tayo katinding mga Pinoy nagkakaisa pag kay Manny, inuuto lang tayo nitong mga kupal na to!!!! Pero salamat naman “now they know” na dumikit lang sila kay Manny di sila mawawalan, di rin sila magkakaron!!!He he he!! Ano nga pangalan ng writer na to??? Bialy!!!
you are just looking on the side of cotto draining 2 pounds… you should also look on the side of pacman gaining 5 pounds. gaining and draining both have a negative effect, you know it.
Liam – did I use abusive language or did I just make my points and ask you questons?
Pacquiao Should Stop Dragging Boxers Down in Weight???WTF. The only fighter that Pacquiao had asked to go down in weight so far is dela Hoya! He did that because he knows that he is not superman.Oscar is way bigger and is 6-division champ.
Hey, don’t forget that Pacquiao started boxing at 107 lbs. Cotto started at 135 lbs. That’s 28 lb difference. Pacman is no Superman and Cotto is no pushover that’s why Pacman is askin for Cotto to meet him halfway.
In Cotto’s last fight, he weighed in at 146 lbs against Joshua Clottey. Against Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao weighed only 138 lbs. So Pacquiao is jumping 7 lbs up to get to 145 lbs while Cotto needs to go down by 1 lb only.
I really don’t get it. Nobody complained when dela Hoya fought Hopkins at a catchweight of 155 lbs for the WBC,WBA,WBO and IBF middle weight titles. Hopkins started boxing at 177 lbs. The fight before that, he weighed 159 lbs. So he went down 3 lbs for the dela Hoya fight. So it is fair for Pacquiao to ask Cotto to go down to 145 lbs.
Two things…
1. This is the first time Pacquiao has initiated the catch weight. De la Hoya was the one who set the 147 lb catchweight thinking Manny would be too slow at that weight. Don’t blame Manny for this.
2. You predicted a Cotto win by knockout and then made an excuse that if Cotto lost it would be due to the weight loss even though you said you think Cotto can handle the weight loss. You’re losing credibility as a writer. Please make up your mind .
..but as a professional you should have at least a broader frame of mind..you should be prepared and anticipate that not everyone will agree to your points..specially when the topic is biased..We’re not kids here.
..and why would not Cotto put the title on the line if it is not fought at 147?..but why would not Pac go up 2 more pounds to make it happen?As you can see, the longer it goes the more topics it will generate because this is an issue where people freely express their views..If they say bad things against you, does that mean you should do the same?I don’t think so..Let us all talk like matured people..Accepting our faults won’t make our balls smaller, would it?
Who says that Pacmans opponent has to accept the fight knowing the stipulation of dropping extra pounds outside of their natural weight class? The reason why Pacs opponents take the fight is because of the money they’ll be making compared to fighting someone else. Beside Mayweather and Pacquiao, who else out there can produce the revenue that these two can produce?
Put it this way, do you think Cotto will drop 2 extra pounds if he was fighting anyone else? Do you think Dela Hoya would’ve dropped down to welterweight if he was fighting anyone else? It’s all about the money. They sacrifice their bodies for the mighty dollar.
cotto fought clottey at 146 pounds, pacquiao is coming from 140 pounds to 145 pounds to fight cotto, if you do the math pacquiao has to gain 5 pounds versus cotto losing a pound. now tell me if pacquiao is draining cotto
Hello people, those of you who say it should be Marquez III instead of Cotto – did you all forget that JMM has already committed to fighting Mayweather? It’s going to be in September so if Pacman waits, it will not be until next year for him to get his next fight – either with Money or Marquez.
Those two only needed to wait until the fight with Hatton was over but no, they announced their fight on the same day of Hatton-Pacquiao trying to steal the thunder. Even now, they mention Pacquiao to sell their tickets.
When was the last time you heard 2 fighters promoting their fight against each other but instead both of their camps all gang up to bash on another boxer? Mayweather and his team, Marquez, Dela Hoya, Schaeffer. Gee, who’s fighting who?
DYep. Yes good points but they arnt putting their point forward, they’re using very abusive language, so i respond to that.
mr. liam’
It might be better if you did not show some bit of bias in your analysis. It turned out your item was just another lengthy blog.
“Nepster. I dont care who asked who to come down in weight or what joe bloggs said when mikey mouse asked himor what weight daffy duck is fighting at!
Jeez man!
Pac should never have fought delahoya, that result means nothing. they may aswel hav hung a punchbag in the ring. instead of dlh he should have fought the next lw or lww contender ”
…with these type of replies, you dare call yourself a writer?You DON’T fight with your readers, you ACKNOWLEDGE their points and then clarify your stand..not as if you are just another reader lashing with another reader..You said you were a pacfan but why do you not care who set the weight limit when pac fought DLH?You are a hater because you ignore the fact that it was DLH who set the limit because DLH was the bigger (but older) dog at that point that is why he has the authority to set the rules..but now that pac is in position, why can’t he demand things the way DLH did? If you are a writer who writes for boxing, you should know what you write..The title “Pacquiao should stop dragging Fighters down in weight” is not applicable at all..How many fighters did he asked to go down in way exactly?can you name those fighters, PLEASE?
this writer is stupid.first of all,its the first time pacman ask for a catchweight,and its the bigger guys who want to fight a smaller guy,then,what is 2 pounds compare to pacman fighting 5 pounds more than his comfort zone?you know if they want to fight at 147,why dont they make the weigh-in the day of the fight to make sure both fighters weigh the same in the ring?i dont know how this writer became a sport columnist?
Cotto vs Clottey was fought at 147, why Cotto weighed 146, 2 pounds below the maximum limit? Why didn’t he took the opportunity to weight 147 if it will benefits him. I think Cotto is still very healthy & strong at 145, 1 lb below his ideal weigh-in based on his last fight. Pacquiao is the real in risk here jumping above from his natural fighting weight class.
I have read somewhere that there is a same-day weigh-in in the Canadian boxing rules. If Cotto insist on 147, why won’t we use this rule?
Liam Santiago is i supposed not stupid or is he? PaCman is so small and yet have the balls to move in weight and what he is taking is a concession of one pound from Cotto! Cotto weighs 146 pounds against Clottey. Is one pound a big deal to all of you? Cotto was the one who offered to fight PaCman at 145 and PaCman wants it 142-143 catch weight. Some people must have forgotten this but PaCs willing to fight him at his term. Now do you think Pac’s is dragging people down their weight? ODLH went to fight the Pac at 147 and he set the condition and not the PaCman sir! Please don’t misled the public and try to correct your mistakes sir!!!
This author doesn’t know what he is talking about. He is simply not a Pacfan but a naysayer and a pundit to Pacman’s accomplishments. “Pacman building his legacy by forcing his opponents to reduce weight”? WTF? Firstly, Pacman did not force Oscar to come down in weight. He forced himself just to get the fight done against Pacman. Do you think it is fair for Pacman to fight Oscar at 154 or 160? Catchweights are there even before the 1940′s. They are simply there to take away the weight advantage of the other and make the fight even. It is not intentional on Pac’s side to ask his opponent to come down in weight. He is just asking for fair play just to get the fight done. There are lots of boxers who have done the catchweight and it did not tarnished their legacy. Hopkins v Dela Hoya, Leonard v Lalonde and many others. Even the great Henry Armstrong fought in a catchweight. So please Mr.Santiago, use your head and be careful with what you’re saying. You’re getting exposed as a nuthugger and a cynic. A wolf in a sheep’s clothing.
Adios!
I’m sick of this crap. Pacquiao went up to 147–expecting Delahoya to rehydrate to 160 and why they worked with middleweight sparring partners–They didnt’ expect delahoya to train and basically stay at 147.
What Oscar and what Mayweather commented was that he stayed at the weight too long. What he was suppose to do was to stay around ~155 and drop down to 147 during the week of the weigh-ins. HE DIDN’T DO THAT. Sorry, there are no excuses for him.
Mr. Santiago, its not 2 pounds, Cotto was 146 at his last fight. You are concerned of this one pound. How about the 4 or 5 pounds weight difference between him and Pacquiao? I think only Roach and you had predicted that de la Hoya will lose to Pacquiao. Are you serious?
dont be a stupid santiago
why are you talking like pacman is fighting at catchweight all his career. this is only the 2nd time he fights at catchweight and the reason is legitimate. If you don’t want to see him fight cotto at catchweight then you should have write that pacquaio-cotto should not happen because of size difference.
oscar signed at 147 because he thought pacquiao would be easy money. the fight didn’t need to happen because pacquiao fought at 135 before de la hoya.
liam just wants attention.
I really don’t think that you are one of the Manny Pacquiao’s fans as you claim it to be.
A ton of Manny’s accomplishments in taking a great risk and knocking out guys must bigger than his natural fighting weight.
He knockout de la Hoya at welterweight limit of 147 pounds even though he only fought at 135 pounds limit once. Pacman is the huge underdog at that fight that even the most prestigious boxing writer does not give him at chance to win.
He knockout Hatton at Light welterweight limit whick is the natural weight of Hatton all his life by coming up from Lightweight.
The fight with Miguel Cotto is not sign yet but you already have the excuse in the event he lost to Pacquiao by weight loss which is only a pound from his last fight weigh in…
Liam Santiago wants to be a boxing promoter.
So Cotto will knock Pacquiao out in 9 or 10, but if he does not then its because of the extra 2 pounds he had to lose. Sounds like a win win prediction for you. Douche.
You have a point there. Its good to see pacquiao fighting an opponent on his top condition. But I don’t see Cotto winning this fight except if he lands a luck punch to pacquiao. I’ve watched the clottey vs cotto fight and cotto really had a hardtime fighting clottey. Pacman’s technique if far more impressive than clottey. Cottoalso doesn’t punch while moving his feet away from the opponent and he has a poor defense. Cotto has lots of weakness that manny should take advantage. I would say Pacman could still beat himat 147 lbs and your right, why not face him at 147 lbs.
This writer is biased (no sense at all). Pacquiao has to gain weight from 130 to 135lbs to fight David Diaz. Then, he has go up to 147 lbs to fight ODLHoya (he only had 142lbs at the weigh-in). Then, he had to lose weight down to 140 lbs to fight Hatton. His body and mentality too is affected like a Yoyo or a seesaw in less than 2 years. Besides, Cotto called out Pacquiao first after his fight with Jennings. Since Hatton’s fight weigh-in at 138lbs, Pacquiao has to gain 7lbs to make up for 145lbs. Cotto since Clottey’s fight at 146lbs only has to loose 1lb to make up for 145lbs and will get more money ever in his life. The diff is 7lbs of fat compared to 1lb of fat. Now tell me if you have common sense, Pacquiao has a big disadvantage over Cotto except for purse split. Don’t worry, team Pacquiao is rethinking to cancel the fight anyway and might take Mosely instead. If Pacquiao loses to Shane Mosely, we, Filipinos, surely will take the defeat as a man rather than being called a chicken.
your making it look like manny needs cotto. i think it’s the other way around. cotto should be thankful for the catch weight, he’s making manny come up in weight to redeem himself and make the most money. if not for arum we would have been talking about a manny v mosley or even manny v pbf which most fans would rather watch.
maybe cotto should come down in weight to fight manny at light welterweight.
why did i just waste my time, reading this crap? this is the last time i’ll ever read anything from this site, yuk…
they’re the ones who wants to fight pacman for a big payday so they should try and make it a little more fair. would it be considered fair if they weighed in at 147 and come fight nite be at 160 or more, while pacquiao weighs in at 142 and comes in at 147 fight nite?
a 147 pounder fighting a 160 pounder, sounds really fair, right?
i guess everyone just expects the pacman to be superman, maybe next time he can fight a tag team of valuev and the klitchko bros, oh, and no catchweight… we don’t want to give pacman any advantage…
Dragging down in weight? Marquez is now in the Lightwelter or higher in the hope oflanding another fight with pacquiao. Velero is now in higher weight class. So is Nate Campbell, or even Guzman. And they have all been clamoring for a pac fight. Why?
I suggest tha you write another article entitled “Pacquiao pulling boxers up in weight”. That should be an excellent article.
I can’t help u make lots of hate reply to Mr Liam .It is very understandable I’m his physician and he has just gotten out at Mental Hospital recently.Thought he was already fine..Sorry but i will make recommendation to take him in again after reading his article and your reply to him..KUDOS..
@Liam Santiago
LOL!!! can you name any one did manny demand a boxers to come down from their natural weight?
dela hoya? manny did not drag him to come down in weight to 147.
now cotto, he weighted 146 on his previous fight to cotley. then tell me if 1 pound is to much to ask..
To write an article something like this I believe u should have to be more knowledgeable and have more boxing sense..I think you dont have both ..You simply is a GARBAGE LIAM..Go back to the dumpsite where you belong.
Your a LOWLY CREATURE Liam and very stupid at that you simply deserve a kick in the butt..U r one hell of a fool..LOL
I dont think the weight will make much difference to Cotto. In his last fight with Clottey he weighed in at 146 pounds, thats only 1 pound more than what he will fight Pacquiao at. I think its a fair point to say that Pacmans last 2 fights were well suited to him but he is a great fighter for sure. I think however that Cotto will win this fight, he has more power than anyone Pacman has ever fought before, he has much better movment than what Hatton had and will be strong at that weight unlike de la hoya. I expect this fighet to be competative for the first 3 rounds and then Cotto’s strengh and power will wear Pacman down. Cotto wins by ko in the 9th.
Thanks Dixon? So….where do you work? lol
Hey Liam BOXING NEWS 24.COM should be ashamed hiring you as one of there writer.It only diminish there respectability.You should write instead on a lowly tabloid on a weekly basis of a small community.Your boxing sense is simply questionable.
i don’t care as long both fighters agree to meet on the so called catch weight.
Plus Cotto set the weight of 145! Pacman finally agreed to it. What more do you want! So they meet half way. Cotto loses 2 extra lbs and Pac loses natural size advantage. Get over the weight crap! It all comes down to who can perform at fight night.
I think its fair for both fighter to fight at 145. Since the nutritionist of cotto assured that they have no problem in making a weight at 145lbs. Just see how small pacman is when they get settled in the ring. like roger mayweather says ” pacman has got balls to face cotto”
If manny and mosley fights, I think there is no catch weight issue(it could be 143, 144 or 145). If your a great fighter just make sure you have talent and heart to beat your opponent.
I can’t blame Bob Arum for setting up this fight. Why should you share the money if you can have it all. Boxing is business after all.
Just my 2 cents…
Liam let it be instill in your deadbrain that it is not Pacman who is dragging them in weights it is them just like MOsley who is dragging themselves simply bcoz of monetary consideration..Only a fool will fight PAC at a disadvantage unless he get something in return(MONEY)..Think of it why Cotto would consider fighting Pac when there is a plenty of fighter in 147 lbs…Just come to think of it..
“If Cotto does not win it will be because he couldn’t deal with that drop in weight”
Sure, Mr. Santiago….your completely clueless.
Cotto will not win because hes fighting the best fighter of our generation. get your head out of your ass.
After the demolition of ODLH and news of the Cotto fight all people could talk about was “Pacman is fighting dead at the weight fighters”. What ever happened to “I don’t think his power is going to hold up in higher weight classes”. Give him some freaking credit! He started at flyweight! Highly regarded puncher Vic Darchinyan’s power stopped at bantamweight. If you think Cotto’s going to be at a disadvantage what about Pacman’s small frame? Oh, and Pacman IS going to win and deep down we all know it. A fighter whose bread and butter is hooks will always be way too slow against the Pac.
liam santiago is a pacquiao hater. liam you hypocrite you don’t know what you are saying.
whoever read this please stop reading liam santiago coz he only talk nonsense.
If you want them to fight at the welterweight limit, how about the same day weigh-in!, at 147lbs limit?
REMEMBER THAT PACQUIAO STARTS BOXING AT 106LBS. DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO FIGHT KLITCHKO’S AT HEAVYWEIGHT LIMIT, OR HOPKINS AT LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT LIMIT!
Where is your common sense liam?
The reason why MP asks these fighters to drop weight is to level the playing field. Aside from that MP is king and the ca$h cow!! Without MP do you think that any of these (WW or any weight) fighters will get the same pay if they were to fight another fighter? Now we can easily make an argument that MP should then fight fighters his own weight so we can stop this catchweight news going crazy. But if you think about it are any fighters at the Jr. WW are as marketable as lets say MP vs MC or MP vs FMJ or MP vs SM?? Nope!! I would say that an MP vs T. Bradley would not even rake in half of what MP vs MC could generate. Boxing is a business you know that, the obvious facts that I just stated everyone knows. If you are king you decide how the field gets leveled. MP is that king. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions you stated that “if Cotto does not win it will be because he couldn’t deal with that drop in weight.” You consider yourself as “a big fan of Manny Pacquiao” but you’re already discrediting his win say if the fight were to push through. I understand that this article is your opinion but please try and see things from MP’s point of view. So why is MP asking for a catchweight? So he can level the playing field and because he is boxing’s KING and CA$H COW. Thats why. Cheers
what this writer is trying to imply is that pacquiao is a coward sh** for dragging cotto down to 145…LOL…
clearly a pac-hater…LOL…. the last time pacquiao stepped on the weighing scale for a fight he was 138 and cotto was 146…. and the fight is going to be at 145!!! … what disadvantage this guy is talking about!!!
erik 20? Do you want me to hurt you?
All these comments for 1 pound?! Thats just to tell you how boring this summer has been for boxing. It will e a great fight and may the best man win.
You call yourself a boxing writer? I’ll keep this real simple: Pacquiao is not a welterweight, why is it more about the opponent going down rather than Pacquiao going up? Also, You make it sound like Pacquiao made everyone go down in weight, the only fighter he did that to was DLH for obvious reasons, Pacquiao cannot fight over 147 and DLH had to come down, something DLH agreed to. IDIOT.
Pac is building a lagacy as afraud fighting weakened men – who exactly? He was ranked #1 pound for pound EVEN before the ODLH fight fighting Barrera, Marquez, and Morales. Hatton wasn’t weight drained either.
No need to get upset man…Just asking.
KIRK3451 – Hey dic*head. I dont care what Sugar ray did when he fought mikey mouse. or what Hopkins did when barry chuckle gave him a boxing lesson.
Pac is building a lagacy as afraud fighting weakened men. there u are. now go and suck a granny’s breasts
KIRK3451 – Hey dic*head. I dont care what Sugar ray did when he fought mikey mouse. or what Hopkins did when barry chuckle gave him a boxing lesson.
Pac is building a lagacy as afraud fighting weakened men. there u are. now go and suck a granny’s breasts.
“What gives Pacquiao the right to demand boxers lose extra weight than what they are comfortable losing.” “boxers”????
Exactly how many boxers have Pacquiao demanded to go down in weight? This would be the first time.
Pacquiao fought Marquez at 130, Diaz at 135 and Hatton at 140. It was De La Hoya who challenged Pacquiao to meet at 147.
YOu’re just another “writer” and I use the term loosely, who’s trying to get hits by using Pacquiao’s name.
Liam – calm down…calm down man…I don’t regard the ODLH fight as a great win for Manny, but I’m just saying…if someone offers you your biggest payday to fight him, what do you do…you fight him man! Who would turn down a fight with Pacquiao now? Nobody. Who would have turned down an ODLH fight then? Nobody…because they know they’re going to get the biggest payday of his life. Pacquiao made more than twice what he’s previously made fighting ODLH. Can’t really say I blame him for that….
Nepster. I dont care who asked who to come down in weight or what joe bloggs said when mikey mouse asked himor what weight daffy duck is fighting at!
Jeez man!
Pac should never have fought delahoya, that result means nothing. they may aswel hav hung a punchbag in the ring. instead of dlh he should have fought the next lw or lww contender.
This is what Pac should have done:
* GONE TO 147 TO FIGHT COTTO OE
* FIGHT AT LWW
SIMPLE AS THAT.
BANTEGUENO ALSO (WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS). YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT NO ALOT ON BOXING SO GET A BIT OF KNOWLEDEGE, COME BK AN ALL CHAT TO YOU THEN OK LITTLE GIRL? (FA**OT)
Vancilio. No I did not write an article about De la hoya would beat Pac as i did not write for this site then. So dont lie theres a good boy.
Listen. Lets just stop the chat cus Pac is gonna get ko’d simple as that. Khan would ko tonight.
Nepster – hey man – I dunno really I just know that Roach works a game plan for easy wins over drained fighters. weather cotto can handle the weight drop will determine the result
“Pac Man is a great fighter but evry1 drops a lot of weight 2 fight him” – who exactly? Did you expect Pacquiao to jump from 135 to 154 to fight ODLH? That’s not even healthy for a normal person to gain 19lbs in a matter of months, except Hatton who could probably do it in two weeks (I kid I kid), but aside from Cotto, who else has Pac asked for a catchweight? It was ODLH who set the limit for their fight wasn’t it?
I’m so glad some1 else see what I see. Pac Man is a great fighter but evry1 drops a lot of weight 2 fight him. Osar looked like he was about 2 die at the weigh in. The fighter I want to see them fight is Paul Williams, he had 2 jump up an fight but is a 147 fighter who called out mosley an every1 act like they didn’t hear it cause every1 was dogging mayweather
Hey Liam – I agree that 147 would be preferable, but don’t you think that Pacquiao weighing in at 142, and coming in at 147 like he did with ODLH, and Cotto weighing in at 147 and coming in at 159-160 be too big of an advantag for Cotto? He’s already a great fighter and having an extra 12lbs would be much too large of an advantage. I personally think this is more of a challenge for Pacquiao to fight at 145 than it is for him to fight b-level, untested fighters at 140. No?
phuchu is funny
hey liam santiago if you really are a pac-man fan then i think you should know as a pac-man fanatic as what u claim to be….that in the de la hoya fight manny was not the one who choose the weight limit for their december showdown last year…..so i think you should stop pretending that your a pacquiao fan and be proud that your just another pac-hater…..
just accept the fact that pac is all about business now…pac is fighting for money now…he (pac) can’t have big money fights in his natural weight now (except maybe against marquez which he’s trying to avoid)…thats why he’s aiming for bigger guys…same as bigger guys want to fight him…they need each other…that’s why bigger guys are willing to loose some pounds the fight pac…specially mosley, he even offered pac to 140 limit…is he serious?what do you think the reason why is he doing that?its all about money…i still hope to see pac vs jmm 3…i think it will be better than floyd jr vs pac…peace
“If Cotto does not win it will be because he couldn’t deal with that drop in weight.” And you are a pac fan right? So you know better than cotto? Coz cotto picked the 145 catchweight not manny. manny will only win if cotto couldn’t deal with that drop in weight? Stupid pac hater!!! I dont even think the 2 pounds will a difference. Remember Hopkins vs ODLH? they agreed on a catchweight of 158 for the undisputed middleweight, Hopkins came in at 156-157. Cotto weigh in 146 in his last fight so a pound will not affect him. Just accept it if cotto loses, manny is just that good.
is liam santiago a mexican?
To the author. Why blame Pacquiao? Why not blame Cotto for taking the fight INSTEAD? HUH?
Liam Santiago you should really pay attention and try to learn something about boxing. Pacquiao is not ‘dragging fighters down in weight.’ They are clamoring to fight him for money and recognition. And, please email me the article where you stated De la Hoya would lose. Were not all you so-called boxing experts calling it a huge mismatch, like Pac didn’t have a chance? And a Cotto knockout? I suppose when Cotto gets knocked out you will say he was weight-drained. You want a prediciton: Pac knocks out Cotto by round 6. And, I’ll email you this afterward.
Liam,
Then why is cotto agree to fight at 145 if he would be in disadvantage? assuming the 2 lbs drop would cause him a problem.
Liam Santiago is a loser… a pacman hater.. as of this writing he makes excuses if cotto loss because of the 2 pounds catch weight.. drain?.. You know Mr Santiago boxing fans wants to see pacquiao fighting big guys. Lots are thrilled to see a david and goliath scenario.. Pacquiao came from 106lbs in his early professional fight meaning he was that small.. the reason why cotto agree to catch weight because he earn a big amount paycheck by fighting pacquiao.. even if you are in cotto shoes you amend with that.. so dont make excuses loser..
“I’m a Pacquiao fan but…” Really? Don’t sound like it. Liar liar pants on fire! Pacquiao went up 2 weight divisions to fight Dela Hoya who only had to go down 3 pounds to welterweight after previously fighting at 150lbs. You should fault Dela Hoya for not preparing correctly for that fight. With Cotto he weight in at 146 weight to fight Clottey. He will easily come in at 156-158 come fight time for Pacquiao and Pacquiao will be maybe 148 tops when they step in the ring. Instead of always tearing down Pacquiao and his achievements, give credit where credit is due. Before all his recent fights Pacquiao takes the bigger risk fighting quality big men in fights that people what to watch. AND…. stop pretending to be a Pacfan. If if and buts were candy and nuts…
I been involved in boxing in one way or other since 1948 and have seen this done all the time, anybody thats be around boxing knows that this happens all the time and its not a big deal. Cotto agree to make the weight and that should be the end of that.
Ashlishwarioor. Weather he used to nbe a flyweight or strawweight doesnt matter. why bring that up so often. if he isnt big enuf for this weight why is he fighting at it.
Nepster. I would rather see pac fight cotto at wlterweight, if he cant make that then the fight shouldnt happen. there is other fights other than cotto, like marquez 3.
thats the reason i stop reading manuel perez comments because its all one sided..how about the height advantage of cotto?i bet one day some of your reader will lost interest too..
I don’t see it as Pacquiao trying to get an advantage by making them come down, it’s about TAKING AWAY Cotto’s natural size advantage. Big difference…This is to prevent Cotto from coming into the ring 15lbs heavier…You said you would prefer to see Pac fight at a weight limit, but would you prefer Cotto at the Light Welterweight limit of 140lbs? Or would you prefer to see Pacquaio vs. Bradley at 140? Or would you prefer to see Pacquaio vs. Cotto at 145? Which has the potential to be the fight of the year? Which would be Pac’s biggest challenge? Which would make both fighters the most money? Which would people fork over $50 to see?