In Defense of Roy Jones Jr & Other European Fighters

jones56344By Brian Kenneth Blackwell: In coming to the defense of Roy Jones Jr, yes, one must recognize that he did fight his mandatories, as he should have. While many a boxing critic would put up the argument that there should be a higher system that makes people fight their mandatories, for the purpose of having a more legitimate, recognized system, ironically, when fighters follow these unwritten laws, those same critics write them off by stating that they are ducking bigger fights.

To begin the argument, you first have to come to the realization that styles make fights. How was Roy supposed to know what kind of fight any of the fighters he boxed would have given him before stepping into the ring? Montell Griffin in particular, was a mandatory, and gave him a better fight than he should have. Afterwards, how was Roy supposed to know how Montell would rebound from his loss to him? Montell, like many of Roy’s opponents, had a good record coming in. In fact, he had just beaten James Toney the fight previous. The argument is that because his career went under the radar from that point (plus the beating that he took from Roy at the time) is that he must not have been that great of a boxer at the time? So if Montell Griffin were to have won every single fight from that point on, he would have been the greatest fighter Roy would have had on his record, and Roy would have one less fighter to critique on his record? I watched Roy beat Hopkins and Toney just as easily as he did John Ruiz. Julio Cesar Gonzalez was 27-0 when Roy fought his mandatory against him. Just because Roy did not make the mistake of getting in the ring with super-heavyweights like Andrew Golota, Michael Grant, Lennox Lewis, or the Klitschkos, we slam him for not wanting to get the best fights. We forget that Bernard Hopkins made 20 title defenses of the Middleweight championship. Do you want to know how? By fighting mandatories!

I never hear anyone criticizing the record of Julio Cesar Chavez. This man fought fighters with 0 fights on their record 65 bouts into his career. Chris Byrd, a heavyweight champion at the time, and someone who many boxing critics were calling Roy out to fight, was 28-1 when he fought Val Smith, who was 10-11 at the time. Chris Byrd’s last bout was against Matthias Sandow, who is 4-3. When Muhammad Ali was champion, he took on Leon Spinks, who was 6-0-1 at the time, and lost! You want to talk about looking for easy fights?

People always forget their boxing history. Calzaghe was getting the same criticism throughout his career because he was fighting his mandatories. It just so happened that his so-called, most crowd appealing fights came at the end of his career, because the American boxing networks were finally showing his fights on television in the United States. I would not say that they were his most competitive fights though. And this is not to say he was not already recognized as a great boxer in Europe. What makes recognition by Americans so much greater than recognition from Europeans? We credit Joe way too much for his win over Jeff Lacy, simply because Jeff was an American fighter. The argument is that Jeff was better than any of Calzaghe’s previous opponents, simply because he was American. Jeff was never that great of a fighter.

The argument that European fighters (and other fighters from around the world) need to come to the United States to get big fights is getting to the point of absurdity. One by one, fight by fight, we are learning that fighters outside of the United States are just as, if not better than fighters groomed here at home. The thought that the United States has the best fighters is extremely arrogant and false. We Americans make comments like this, but come back and say that our best boxers are now in the NBA or NFL. Are Europeans supposed to make the argument that their best boxers are playing soccer? From what I have seen, it is usually the American fighters that are unwilling to take on the Europeans. Look how long it took for Calzaghe to get a shot from even Jeff Lacy. Look how long it took for the Klitschkos to get their recognition, and they still do not. We continually slam Wladimir for having a weak chin, but we forget that Lennox was flattened twice by one-punch knock outs.

And the climax of them all, look at the career of Lennox Lewis. When Lewis became Riddick Bowe’s mandatory challenger, he threw his WBC belt in the trash so that he did not have to fight Lennox. It took years before Lennox was taken seriously. Throughout his career the writers and fans criticized Lennox for his “boring” and “timid” European boxing style, even though he possessed great knock out power. Does this sound familiar (Wladimir)? Give me one American fighter that can beat Wladimir. Arreola? No. James Toney? No. John Ruiz? Lennox would not even take the fight with this guy 8 years ago, laughing at the thought of flattening him in order to get back a belt that John was wearing, that he was stripped of after becoming the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion. I say we Americans shut up until we take this sport as seriously as the rest of the world.

I agree with many boxing critics who say that we should have only one belt per weight division; so I like what is happening with the recognition of the Ring Magazine championship as the legitimate title in each division. Let’s get a fight between Kelly Pavlik and Arthur Abraham in Germany. There are more boxing fans in that area of the globe anyhow. Abraham is undefeated, and he is the more recognized champion. Let HBO cover the fight, but let the fight take place in Abraham’s back yard, where it is deserved. Not in the United States.

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10 Responses to “In Defense of Roy Jones Jr & Other European Fighters”

  • anon says:

    i agree with alot of what the writer says..but the reason y things are the way they are is because the real recognition and money is in america so thats y fighters should go to america, plus unlike other european countries u do not get ripped of as often just because you arent the hometown guy.because of this pride from both sides of not wanting to travel we arent gettin the best fights anymore, guys like kessler, valuev are nobodys in terms of popularity and recognition because they dont travel.i would rather see sum1 like ricky hatton going to america then get a loss in a dodgy decision in germany, not sayin that america has know bias or politics but its better than anywher else.ps im not american

  • mitch says:

    I would love to see fighters travel more but America is the boxing capital of the world. I’m not American either before anyone thinks i’m a patiotic yank. But they are less inclined to rip off a fighter with a decision then other countries. I’m Austrailian and our fighters have gone to Germany to fight for titles and the refs just don’t give them a fair go. How do you think the superstars of the sport see this? They’ed be thinking why go there, fight them in front of their supporters, with their ref, and their judges. A great example is Barrera Vs Khan. who thinks that that was fair that the cut happened in the 2nd round but they didn’t stop it till round 5?

  • Wayne Lord says:

    Great article. I have been saying the same thing for many years. Britain is the birthplace of the manly art but the US is where it flourished. The US is not where foreign fighters can make most $. now. Americans always stay at home rather than risk taking on someone in their backyard.
    Ali went where he could make the most money cuz he was supremely confident. When you have home fans you know you will get a close decision. Why do baseball, hockey and basketball teams try so hard to get home field edge? Cuz fans help to pick them up. US fighters always get that edge but people did not mind cuz they made big $. Japan, Europe, Australia and Canada are boxing hotbeds for marginal fights but the US is always tops when it comes to mega fights. When I say mega fights, I mean where Americans pay attention to the contestants.
    Remember even Americans get ignored in the US if you do not have a home base and if you fight in a small city. That’s the way they are so it’s not necessarily them against the world. I watch the World Cup, SuperBowl or NBA regardless of the teams. I enjoy the event. Americans go for big cities or big names. Its in their DNA.
    Super Roy Jones was huge and still is my all time favourite boxerr followed by Whitaker and the less known Howard Davis of Olympic fame. Roy used to beat people so easily it was incredible. Speed & power he had it all.
    It was important to him to keep all titles so he met the mandatories. I get that but I wanted to see him do the impossible and he did. He won the heavyweight and came back down and squeaked by to regain the L-Heavy. I could see he was too weak and talk about drained? He should never have fought the 2nd time at 175 but the same ego that makes the great boxers also bring them down.
    Americans used to dominate but we keep forgetting that the Cubans & East Europenas never went pro. Now they are pros, most Americans make huge $ in the NBA, NFL and baseball. Many boxing gyms are gone and the immigrants who used to be hungry and boxed are now rich businessmen.
    Like most dynasties the mighty US dominance of boxing has fallen. They still have great boxers but not the abundance of before. On the brighter side, their once terrible soccer team beat Spain the Euro champs and almost beat Brazil the 5 time world champs. So everything is upside down.

  • MrKTFO says:

    ITS ON! VITALI VS HAYE 13 SEPTEMBER!

    AGAIN IN A STADIUM! IN GERMANY!

    THIS WILL BE THE BEATING OF HIS LIFE!

  • bob charles says:

    well said Coops…

  • Coops says:

    Yes, good, well balanced article. The best I’ve read on here. Reality is, in many cases fighters make more money in the US but the US fight fans and media, generally, have a tendancy to under-rate European fighters. The US does need to realise that fights are for WORLD titles not US titles – look at the lists of current champs – not a great proportion of US fighters.
    There are of course some superb US fighters, but likewise British, European and South American.
    Give credit where credit is due.

  • Anonymous says:

    Very good article.Gives me hope that this site may be able to bounce back to the once great BOXING site it once was.

  • Anonymous says:

    here here, finally and after a long wait we have an article that takes a neutrel perspective and gives us a rounded and solid conclusion.

  • Chris Pugh says:

    I totally agree with the article. Its about time the Americans realised that there is an entire world out there. So go fight in it!!!!

    why make others travel? thats easy – to get an advantage!!!! if they had to travel then we would see a totally different picture.

  • Joey says:

    This is without doubt one of the most insightful and impartial articles I have read on this site. well done to the man doing the writing

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