Haye confident That The Klitschkos Will Still Want to Fight him Once He Beats Valuev
July 25th, 2009
By William Mackay: David Haye isn’t worried about burning any bridges with the Klitschko brothers by him having bailed on a fight with World Boxing Council heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko for a fight with WBA heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev.
The way Haye sees it, he may have upset the Klitschko brothers for the time being with his latest pull out, but when he has the WBA title in his possession, the Klitschkos will come seeking him out because they want the money that Haye would bring to them and they also want to unify the titles.
Haye doesn’t see himself as having destroyed his chances at fighting the Klitschko brothers in the future, and dismisses what Bernd Boente, the manager of the Klitschko brothers, said about Haye having “almost zero chance” of fighting the Klitschko brothers in the future. Haye said that he previously told the Klitschko team not to announce the fight with him and Vitali as having been completed until it was finished.
However, the Klitschko team did it anyway, a move which Haye felt was used to put additional pressure on him to sign the contract for the fight. Haye, however, wasn’t pleased with the contract that Vitali and his management team presented to him, not liking the rematch clause which would have made it necessary for Haye to fight two more fights against Vitali or his brother if Haye had beaten Vitali in the proposed September 12th fight. Haye said that trying to negotiate the contract with Klitschko was very difficult, and that he felt he wasn’t treated with respect.
By going around Klitschko to take the fight with Valuev, Haye pulled off a move that was like a game of chess. Whereas Vitali and his team thought they had the power in their court due to him having the WBC title in his possession, Haye has now put Vitali in the position where he’ll have to potentially negotiate with Haye on even terms if Haye can defeat Valuev on November 7th.
That has to hurt klitschko and his team. And it may be a lesson to them about dealing with future challengers. It might be better to give in a little if the opponent is popular like Haye, because they might have other options available to them, at least until when and if the Klitschko brothers have all four heavyweight titles in their possession.
As for the fight still not being sanctioned by the WBA, something that heavyweight contender John Ruiz said recently in a press release, Haye said that the fight has been ratified always by the WBA, which would seem to have taken some of the air out of Ruiz’s argument that the fight between Haye and Valuev shouldn’t go forward.
Whether you like Haye or not, he’s clearly good for the heavyweight division for as long as he can keep winning. He’s right when he says that the Klitschko brothers won’t hold a grudge against him, because they obviously want to get the most money they can and if Haye is the best option available to them to make that happen, obviously they’ll go after him immediately.
The Klitschko brothers badly want to unify the heavyweight titles which is another reason why they won’t be holding any grudges against Haye. They may not like having to accept a 50-50 revenue split with him if he beats Valuev, but that’s the way things go in boxing.
Tags: Haye vs. Valuev, Haye-Valuev ,David Haye, Nikolai Valuev, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko11 Responses to “Haye confident That The Klitschkos Will Still Want to Fight him Once He Beats Valuev”
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haye is not that talented. he has poor balance and is not nearly as fast as his supporters would have u believe. of the top 10 cruisers presently in ring, he has fought 2 of them. he has fought 2 decent fighters, 2. no great fighters. he had a decent punch at cruiser, but at heavy? how long do u think mormeck would last w vlad? a round, 2 rounds. if it went 8 i doubt that mormeck could land a punch. it would be a beating. it was life and death for haye? really. i’ve watched that tapes, his speed is no better than vlad when he isnt measuring with his jab. vlad’s puches are harder, straighter and will get there faster. and, i wonder if haye could even hurt vlad. he certainly couldnt hurt vitali. i think he would have to land a series of punches to stagger vlad. and that is extremely unlikely…so you figure out why is taking on the easier opp. a sadly easy opp.
David Haye has ability but unfortunately he is moving up to the heavyweight division which should really be called the super-heavyweight division.
Each of the belt-holders are huge,huge men.
Haye beating Valuev is by no means a certainty.
Don’t be fooled by his performance against Holyfield. In that fight Valuev was clearly not in the mood to hit an aged, brain damaged icon of the sport.
Eveyone seems to have forgotton that Haye was the undisputed cruiserweight champion.He may not have fought many fights in the heavy weight division but theres no denying his ability.
He will become the undisputed heavy weight champion
The Klitschkos do want to fight Haye. Yes they messed him around with the contracts, Yes He had that coming, BUT signed up and got his fight. I Don’t believe the back injury, he got out because there was no pay day for him, his fault, nobody else.
Vitali offers him a fight, so now he has been offered more than any other HW in the world the very best opponents in the space of a few weeks. Haye walks away.How is that working it to the Klitschkos?
They will now go off and probaly beat two really good up and coming fighters possibly three while Haye MAY get a fight against a second rate belt holder who has already been beaten by a victim of the Klischkos. Sorry how is that working it to the Klitschkos?.
Lets imagine Haye beats Valuev nobody will respect him for it, its already been done,few people rate Valuev. So now haye hold a belt seen by many as of no value and comes knocking at Klitschkos door. Yes he will get a fight, and possibly under better circumstances financialy.
BUT and this is the big one, he may not get this fight, or after getting if he loses, where is he then?
The Klitschkos by then have wiped out the up and comings and look at Haye and say, go away and join the queue. He already jumped that queue re joining it will put him a long way down the line.
The only way to work it to any Klitschko is in the ring, not blustering, and posturing, and trash talk. Simply get in and knock them out. He has just turned them away,twice, What an opportunity. It may be the only one he will get.
Iain they have been talking about fighting eachother when they get hold of all the belts. They’ll never be forced into it though simply because they are brothers. They’ll always have the moral high ground on this one.
Uksandoff the Klitschko’s were getting their own back on Haye with contracts. He may have been able to get a shot without fighting anyone but the way he went about it influenced the outcome in regards to contracts.
Thats the thing tho Evil 1. Haye DOES NOT need to fight those people. In a perfect world id agree with you but this aint a perfect world this is modern day Boxing.
Using his mouth alone Haye has managed to sign a contract with Vlad, be offered one by Vitali and is now in the process of organising a fight with the other world champ. All without fighting any of the people you mentioned.
Its not right but it happens all the time by boxers all over the world. It just happens to be a sore point when a Brit does it.
David Haye was just a europeon hype job. He needs to beat someone like Oleg Maskaev, James Toney, or Sam Peter to prove he’s worthy to fight for any heavyweight belt holders. not some c class heavyweight boxer.
Haye did the right move to run away before he got hurt. I doubt Haye will get a shot at Valuev anyway Ruiz who has earnd every right to fight Valuev wont allow it.
Haye thinks that with his big mouth he can get anything he wants!
can i just ask why the boxing orgnasations never ask the klistchkos to fight each other. they are clearly the no.1 contenders to each others titles, and a fight between the two would unify the division. now i know they say they dont want to fight each other, but why should they have the choice?
i wish haye all the best, and i would love to see him beat valuev, and i think he has the potential to beat the k’s after, but im not saying it will be easy. wlad has great ability and vitali is a rugged fighter with an iron jaw.
i woul just love a champ who is willing to fight anyone, without all this protection, and the brothers refusing to fight.
i think is a breath of fresh air, getting genuine interest in the div, i hope he can deliver, and give GB another champ.
I think i agree with LOL. They were playing games with Haye on his contracts and taunting with the poor terms they were offering.
They thought they had a desperate Haye and thought they could back him into a corner if he wanted his big chance.
So hes only gone and shafted them by goin after Valuev.
If the brothers refuse Hayes calls to unify the belts after so openly saying it was their dream to do that they are guna look like mugs who are scared. Im not sayin they are but thats how its guna look and the pressure will be on them.
anon- pointless comment
haye vs klits never gona happen as he wont beat valuez
Haye pwnd the Klit brothers without fighting them