Floyd Mayweather Jr, The Legend
July 16th, 2009
By Liam Brindle: Much has been said of late about Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (39-0, 25 KO’s) and a potential bout with current pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 KO’s) with many questions being asked of Mayweather. Why has he taken a fight with a much smaller man? Why didn’t he take a fight with ‘Sugar’ Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto? Does he fear these two fighters? Do they hit harder than anyone he has ever squared off against?
Let me explain:
Mayweather dismantled a very spirited Ricky Hatton (45-2, 32 KO’s)) in a very comprehensive 10th round TKO.
Seven months earlier Mayweather won via split decision, a SD that divided opinion around the globe and is still the topic of conversation on a daily basis.
Manny then went onto take on the same 2 opponents and dealt with them both in a much more convincing and brutal manor (especially Ricky).
I do believe that Manny did do an awesome job both but Mayweather questions Manny’s Oscar win due to Oscar undoubtedly looking extremely drained to make the weight and Mayweather takes credit for Manny blowing Hatton away claiming ‘I took it all out of him…he was a shot fighter after I defeated him’.
So I feel that Mayweather has taken this fight because Juan Manuel Marquez gave Manny Pacquiao 2 unbelievably tough fights both of which divided opinion throughout the boxing world. Both of which Mayweather believes Marquez won.
By taking on Marquez, Mayweather feels that if he does a comprehensive job or scores a KO he will gain a massive chunk of the psychological edge that Manny has gained by beating Oscar and Hatton back.
I also feel that all the question marks around Mayweather at the moment: ring rust, money, will all be blown away within the first 60 seconds when we all realize how fast, accurate, strong, illusive and most of all how smart Floyd Mayweather, Jr. still is. My prediction a late stoppage in favour of Mayweather after a very spirits Marquez performance.
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When floyd fought Oscar, he stepped into Oscars back yard weight wise and edged a split decision, Manny beat a man (bigger) but clearly not himself and severely weight drained, Mayweather beat Hatton when Hatton was at his peak, confident, never lost and thought he could do it, he lost, manny Knocked him out not because I beleive he’s particularly vicious but because Ricky was clumsy, impatient and lost his head, I think floyds wins over ODLH and Hatton where more admirable than MPs tbh and I think the fight with JMM isn’t Floyd avoiding Cotto or Mosley I think Liams right in sayin it’s purely a psychological thing if he can score a KO and say to manny (if he comes through Cotto which I don’t think he will) I’ve beat the man you struggled with and contraversialy beat, now fight me.
Wayne Lord, you talk sooo much sense it is very hard to disgree with you.
Like i have said my article is NOT saying that i dislike Pac, it is just my opinion on why Mayweather took the JMM fight, it is NOT fact just my opinion.
for those who beleive that jmm won the two bout with pacman are ceretainly fool, on their first encounter one of the judges admit a mistake so the case is close in favor of pacman, the second bout in round 3 should be 10-7 instead of 10-8 in pacmans favor it should be 2 mandatory 8 count one when jmm kiss a canvass and one when he hold a rope when a barage of punches unload by pacman at the end of round 3 for those doubting thomases out there, try to review the 3rd round of their second encounter and look at the end of round 3 how jmm was guided by the ref in his corner because he did not know where he is and after you watch it see for yourself who really won
Thanks, Wayne my lord….
I just believe what ultimately and the only thing that matters is what happens in the ring
Norman, good correction! One should never interfere or think of interfering with a master piece but I will dare to add/remind that Hatton went up to fight at 147 and almost got k-oed. He then admitted those boys were too big and strong and he was going back to 140.
Little did he know that Mayfeather (lightweight) already heard that. We knew he had already made remarks about Margarito, Cotto, Williams & Mosley were unknown. However, realizing Hatton had a big following and was was proven to be too small at 140, he agreed to fight him.
That says it all right there. So fighting Marquez who is great, but also is small and not a draw, is not a surprise. Neither is his continuous rant and denigrating of Mosley and other fighters who dared to face tough guys but have losses.
But the coupe de grace is insisting that he is a big draw. His biggest draws in descending order I believe were, Oscar, Hatton and Gatti who already were attractions. So to avoid Pacman, he says he must get more than 50%.
I can’t believe so called boxing writers like Liam and M. Perez actually buy that. Perez claims that no one in the US knows Pacman, yet the Bible of Boxing rate him P4P King. He has won the ESPY and Boxing Writers Assoc of America boxing award and all other major boxing and sports magazines also rate him the best.
Any article about him is guaranteed and immediate feedback from fans. His fights draw huge numbers and he makes lots of $. Being the most popular does not mean you are the best. Gatti was very popular but never was rated No 1. Oscar was still the no 1 boxoffice for the past 3-5 yrs but was not rated P4P king nor won awards then.
Love him or hate him, he is the top attraction. Mayfeather is loved & hated by many but this does crossover to great fan mail or big ticket sales. His 24-7 series is entertaining to an extent but then you see him fight and zzzzzz you are asleep! So much skill and so much bragging but never does he back it up in the ring. It’s like Dr. Jekyl & Mr. Hyde, tow separate personalities. I once was a big Mayfeather fan but unless his fight is free I won’t watch it.
That is why he and GBP are now trying to cash in on Pacman’s popularity by mentioning his name so often. They know people will get agitated. Pac has not yet signed to fight Cotto and yet there is more interest in that fight than The Feather vs The Marker! Floyd knows he can make more $ if he fought Pacman. But he thought that he would upstage the fight win Hatton by announcing his return. But people fell asleep….ZZZZZZ
Norman, my man! This is a very comprehensive and brilliant analysis. Where the hell have you been hiding? It is very thought provoking, perceptive, factual and insightful! A master piece!
Correction, Marquez already fought twice at lightweight, with Casamayor and Juan Diaz. My mistake.
Liam Brindle misses a lot of points.
Mayweather un-retired because he wants to fight the best, or so he says. He was a welterweight when he retired, making Hatton, at the time the jr welterweight champ, jump to welterweight so that they can fight. And Mayweather is returning to fight at 147 lbs.
Is he fighting the best when he choose to fight Marquez and requiring that the fight be made at welterweight? Mayweather is a welterweight, and the best welterweights available are Mosley, Cotto, Margarito and there is Pacquiao the jr welterweight champ and no. 1 p4p. Marquez is a lightweight, with only one fight to show at that division as of this date.
I do not know where and how Brindle paid his dues to be a writer on Boxing News, though this is not an argument ad hominem but an argument on his article. Mayweather fighting Marquez at welterweight is not a stroke of absolute genius but an act of unquestionable cowardice, or at least a brilliant outright evasion of the real welterweights (Mosley, Cotto, Margarito and pacquiao) Heck, Pacquiao is not even a full pledged welterweight despite his one time 147lb fight with de la Hoya, yet Mayweather did not choose any of these men with the real talent to obliterate his mouth.
If, as you opines, mayweather wants to upstage the awesome manner Pacquiao dealt with their common opponent in dela Hoya and Hatton by beating Marquez who gave Pacquiao a good fight, then you are telling us that the cowardice of mayweather should be encouraged. You are opining that Mayweather should get his goal indirectly, through the backdoor and fight the smaller man in the house when he can go in front of the house and simply yell to the bigger welterweights that he is back and wants to fight the best in his division. Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao could have been available had he chosen them at the time of his un-retirement.
If Mayweather wants to reclaim the No. 1 p4p title, he should have challenged Pacquiao directly since as we all know, he only had to wait one day to know the outcome of the Pacquiao-Hatton fight. Getting the no. 1 p4p title goes through Pacquiao, not Marquez. Mayweather beating Pacquiao will give him the p4p title. Mayweather beating Marquez will not assure or at least convince us that he can beat Pacquiao. Beating Marquez will not put Mayweather back into the 4p4 title because in my opinion, Marquez’ draw (which should have been officially a loss had the judge did not err) and the split decision loss with Pacquiao is a classic example of making mountains out of molehills. I do not understand why Marquez should get too much credit for a draw (that should have been a loss) and a loss, and inversely, why Pacquiao’s draw (that should have been a win) and a split decision be given less credit.
Marquez only becomes a better whiner, not a better boxer, if each passing day he continues to sour grape against Pacquiao. He would probably earn his third fight with Pacquiao if he accepts the official result as a man and let his fists do the talking just like Pacquiao. The more that Marquez whines, the more that he loses his standing as a boxer and as a gentleman. For all of Marquez’ boxing ability, kindly remind me of another Mexican boxer who whines a lot than Marquez.
Finally, Liam swallows hook, line, and sinker Mayweather’s own opinion that De la Hoya and Hatton were no longer the same man after they were beaten by Mayweather. We know a lot other boxers that came back strong even after serious, devastating or humiliating losses. The losses by de la Hoya and Hatton to Mayweather are nothing close to serious, devastating or humiliating. Mayweather won by SD over de la Hoya and Hatton was in the fight until he was caught by Mayweather. In fact, de la HOya was the big favorite to beat Pacquaio and Hatton was being touted to bully the smaller Pacquaio. Truth to be told, Hatton and de la Hoya just fought the wrong man. These two Pacquiao wins probably make the Pacquiao un-believiers to cringe even more while Pacquiao was mauling the two. I thought de la Hoya was a gentleman in accepting his defeat right after the fight but he morphed into the Golden Bitterboy afterwards. I can see dela Hoya now more as a non-credible promoter than he was once boxing’s great draw.
If only to belabor a point, why did majority of the experts and veteran boxing analysts predicted that de la Hoya would absolutely beat Pacquiao even if they know that de la Hoya would be fighting Pacquiao at 147lbs? Nobody ever talked about de la Hoya being over-drained but instantly made 720 degrees turn-around right after the beat down. If the experts and the veteran boxing analysts who dismissed Pacquiao before the fight was not talking about problems making the weight, it is either (1)they do not really know what they are talking, (2) HONESTLY committed a mistake but wont admit it, (3) do not believe Pacquiao can win, much more make de la hoya QUIT, or (4) the dehydration was just a mere afterthought.
On Hatton, are we sure Mayweather could have beaten him had the fight been at 140lbs where Hatton was assumed to be the best since he was undefeated in that weight? In my opinion, Hatton could have beaten Mayweather at 140lbs if you look at the first five rounds of their 147lb fight. Boxing history tells us that except for obvious disparity in talent and physical attributes, we will not know the better fighter unless they actually fight. It is just a crap when Mayweather says he already softened Hatton when Pacquiao fought Hatton because Pacquiao fought Hatton at his own domain, unlike Mayweather who has the luxury of staying in his own division. It may carry more persuasion if Mayweather beat Hatton at 140lbs.
Until Pacquiao loses in the ring, Mayweather, Marquez and De la Hoya should shut the f*ck up.
P. S. I predict that Mayweather-Marquez will end up a draw. Both will have busted mouths way beyond speaking ability.
money. if u think marquez is much superior than manny coz of ur notion that he beats him in 2 fights then why the hell ur not satisfied just beating marquez??? why r u offering marquez money to step aside to fight Manny since u already know marquez already beats him?? very, very contradictory floyd nice job…
larry merchant said it all …hahahha
I should remind everyone that the new Pacman is not the old Pacman who used to only do a jab-jab and a straight left. The new Pacman have now devastating right and left hand, and with much better footwork. I can see that the current Pacman now can put Marquez and mayweather to sleep if ever they fight.
Obviously Pacquaios accomplishments cannot be denied. How ever these “Pacman” haters put it, Pacquaio did what he did in the ring and more and a bag of rice! Bottom line is, to be the “ish” you gotta have haters and the more the merrier!If you’re making noise(in the ring) like Pacquaio is then you’re bound to be shut down and thats them haters!Mind you this, Pacquaio never said anything negative or bad to anyone…So either you love him or just move along and shut it!
Mayweather is legend. Huh legend?
I wonder when greediness and cherry picking opponents in boxing equates to being a legend.
This article is a crap!
Why not follow the super-middleweight’s example of having a tournament for Mayweather. Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao and Marquez. This ought to show who the best really is.
How much did golden boy pay you to write this?
If Mayweather performs like the Gatti, N’Dou, Hatton fights….he’ll win in a late stoppage 8-10 rounds. Marquez is a warrior though, very tough and spirited.
Can’t wait for Sept 19th.
i just hope marquez beat up this big mouth floyd!
hes has a very Big mouth with a very little courage! not a true warrior floyd!
Mayweather is not a legend,the reality is that,his defensive skills was not tested by an extremely offensive fighters like Pacquiao or Mosley that has fast hands like him,if some guys will believe that defence will prevail over offence,they might be wrong because this is not basketball,he is the only boxer that proclaim his greatness and down grading boxers who are at par with him,when you look back at the time of Armstrong or Robinson they respect their fellow fighters and let their fists do the taking.Mayweather is a total scam and some writers tend to believe all the craps he is spitting,
The way the article is inferring is that Marquez is just a dummy foe to make mayweather’s image instant repair.Then why not fight pacquiao?,if really he believes that he can easily beat marquez but he said in another interview that marquez won in the two previous fight against pacquiao bottom line Manny is the weakest among them three;again, why risk a fight with Marquez if the guy is better than pacquiao?where’s the logic there?.In my oppinion this a disastrous fight decision on floyd.
The only way Marquez will beat Mayweather is by knock out. Marquez is going to win, no doubt in my mind. But I don’t think the judges will be on the up and up. Mayweather is in the news, he was big at one time and is on a comeback. I feel for Marquez on this, but he is a warrior, and he will come through. Even if the judges don’t.
it’s my opinion, that NO ONE from 130 up to 147 can beat Pacquiao at this point in his career. They need to get a bigger extension ladder for Manny to climb higher. He’s on top and getting bigger, better and faster, whatever, he’s improving more and more.
This article is not against Pac-Man at all…Pac is awsome: fast, ferocious, powerfull, skillfull and his movement is unreal.
I am simply stating my opinion as to why Mayweather has taken the fight with marquez.
Come on, you are making out that Mayweather is some sort of club fighter…the man was a world champion for 10 years!! with W39 L0
You have to appreciate his ring skills even if he is no the most exciting fighter in the world… the fact that he doesnt really get hit is a skill alone.
People might not agree that he is a legend because they see him as arrogant… but you are mistaking arrogance with confidence
If I were Floyd Jr. I will not fight Marquez, He is small but he is really capable of hurting and beating me. Manny caught him four time with his very powerful left but he was still able to stand, fight, and win rounds more than Manny. If not only the 10/6 score in round one (1st fight) and a 10/8 score in round three (2nd fight) he should be the winner both fights. Manny hits harder than I am, my only chance of winning the fight is by points but what can I do that. If I hit him once he will surely hit me twice before I can get out. This is insane, I can make more money If I dropped this fight and face Manny instead. I have still time, I’m still injured hehehe.
i think liam you’re nearly losing your job that u want attention from the fans of pacman. a writer who wrotes against our man always got the attention they wanted just to be recognize by the boxing world.i dont blame you for that because you might be sucked by your boss sooner or later. but i know deep inside your heart these is not what you want to say on floyd and manny. hopefully you will get the attention you want from the fans.
Floyd’s ultimate weapon is his left hook and jab combined with his slick moves and hit and run styles. Pacman’s ultimate weapons (right now) are his left and right hooks, left straight (considered by one famous trainer like a bullet that travels so fast and hits really hard) combined with lateral head movements, excellent foot works and side to side movements plus none stop assaults. He is also known for his capability to adapt and adjust according to his opponents style and works well on it. They even considered him a machine. Now, let’s imagine the two are now inside the ring. If I were Manny, I will be contented to apply the game plan I used during the Dream Match with a little review when I conquered Sasakol and Ledwaba. In Floyd Jr. If I were him, I will play according to what I’m doing my whole career. If I lose, so what> There’s no shame losing to a living legend, the greatest boxer of all time. I should be proud instead.
So, all these fuzz from Mayweather for Manny and not Money…afterall, which makes us all realize as to who trully is the Biggest Fighter of our age today…its the Pacman!!!!
castillo and zab judah are the only boxer who beat mayweather it is clear and boring to watch.. they were both robbed of their wins.. if mayweather wants a great fight he should fight mosley, cotto and pacquaio if he really is the p4p! he shud fight this 3 guys…. to mayweather stop making excuses
manny pacquiao will beat floyd mayweather jr. and that’s the bottom line
MOST BOXERS WANTS MANNY PACQUIAO BECAUSE HE HAS THE MONEY….EVERYTHING…FAME AND KING OF P4P…WHO IS MAYWEATHER ANYWAY???? EVERYBODY KNOWS HE HAS NOTHING RIGHT NOW… HE HAS ONLY THE BIG HEAD, A BIG MOUTH, BIG LIAR, TAX EVADERS AND A GREEDY GORILLA.
MAYWEATHER PICKS MMJ BECAUSE HE REALLY AFRAID OF MANNY PACQUIAO… ANYHOW MMJ IS THE 2ND P4P AND HE CAN BEAT MAYWEATHER BY DECISION UNLESS IF HE RUNS INSIDE THE RING, LIKE HE DID IN ALL HIS PREVIOUS FIGHTS AS WELL AS WITH THE IRS….
ai sus ano man na ang nagusulat sang artikle na ini…kutao-kutao man gid…abi puli to ka mag dyakol…lol
Another Mayweather kiss ass
A SCRIPTED LEGEND….THIS FIGHT IS SCRIPTED…ACCDNG TO SOURCE…I DONT WANNA WATCH!!
the author is a shot writer for thinking so…..its just so lame in defending mayweather in taking little guys………its never a secret that Mayweather ducks fighter he cannot defeat or which he perceives to be a dangerous opponent, that’s why his legacy will always be questioned……sure he’s got the talent but his talent will never be put to test if he will not take the fight against the best in his size, fighter’s such as “the punisher” williams, A. Margarito, and SSMosley….
who are these morons saying marquez won every round. Ok little boys go back to bed or I’m gonna tell your mommys you’ve been exaggerating again.
sorry to confuse people PBF took the Marquez fight because HE REALLY THINKS PAC beat Marquez twice.
Its the opposite PBF took the Marquez fight because PAC beat Marquez twice. Thats why he dont want to fight PAC. If he really believed that any idiot would have chosen to fight PAC then Marquez because he would have made more money and fight the lesser opponent. Think this way would you fight #1 first and get less money or fight #2 which he think PAC is and make 4X more money!!!!
oh well that JMM in our first fight he hugs me and keep on hugging……then at the second fight he kiss me and keep on kissing all the time i don’t want a third much maybe it comes more aggressive on her desire on me…….
if mayweather beats jmm its because the old man can’t pull a trigger anymore, if it was the other way its because the rib alibi, what a waste of money to watch its only one pacman who brings excitement in boxing
As I saw it Dela Hoya wasn’t extremely drained or he wouldnt have lasted 1 round with PAC. He was simply outclassed by this small boxer who darted in & out with blizzard combinations and body shots that hurt alot. It wore out Dela Hoya. He was also to slow for PAC like the younger David Diaz said. “He’s just fckn too fast I thought Roach was in there hitting me too” hehehe
Pacman cannot be hurt by Marquez the 2 fights & 24 rounds proved it. Now that he is even much stronger with his punches when Marquez gets kO’ed again he will not make the count!!!!
Are You crazy? A legend? C’mon man! Write a better story than this nonsense. Use your brain…
a Legend is a fighter who beats Hall of Famers & legends. The more of them you beat the Greater you are. PBF beat 1 Legend Dela Hoya. PAC beat 1 Legend Dela Hoya. 3 Hall of Famers Barerra, Morales & Marquez. In my eyes PBF is only a Hall of Famer & PAC is the Legend!!!!
You should re-write this article, you write an article the way your idol, does when he speaks.
PBF fought a fat slow Hatton while PAC fought Hatton at his natural weight his BEST UNDEFEATED WEIGHT!!!!!
Liam,
Mark my words. Marquez will blow away Floyd. (Ya, and Floyd will make an excuse out of his injured ribs.) You know he lies on account of De La Hoya and Hatton – the former claimed he was comfortable with his lower weight, the latter won his fight with Paul, so nothing was lost from Floyd there.
So let me repeat that and you people out there bookmark this webpage MARQUEZ WILL KNOCK OUT FLOYD WITHIN 5 ROUNDS!
what about saying pacquiao has been giving marquez problems that he didnt win a single bout,hows that for a change and its a TRUE fact not your pathetic opinions becoz if it happens that ur the judges then the boxing world will go down the abyss along with u pathetics thank god for that!
beat pacquiao twice?? last time i checked in boxrec pacquiao has a win on marquez….and it doesnt matter how u think that marquez has won 2 fights as long the judges and the boxrec think otherwise….i dnt give a sh1t wat ur thinking haters
does a lossless record prove you’re the best? Would you say that of Hatton when he was still unbeaten? Floyd is great. But being the best? He still needs to prove it by fighting the best. As of right now I see him as someone protecting his record, which to me, is not a measure of being the best. Right now, I see him as someone who ducks potential threats to his record. I’m waiting.
A legend ……… ????????
Liam,
you cannot measure floyds greatness if he will beat marquez .He is not on his comfortable weight class.A bloated lightwelter marquez is.I hope he can bring his power and speed on that elevated zone. Marquez is a good fighter,counter puncher and give Pacquiao a problem. Based on Marquezs previous fights, the only opponent that sent him to the canvas couple of times is Pacquiao(1st and 2nd fight) . If its the other way around it will make a difference. He will get the judges nod and win the decision.
Fighting Marquez instead of Mosley and company just because Money thought Marquez won in those fights with Pacquiao is just an alibi. If Money is really that great, he shouldn’t be fighting in those catch weights.
There’s no question Money is a great fighter. But what I want to see is he should fight the real contenders. Not the small boxers who just want to have their biggest paydays.
By the way, after Marquez, is Ivan Calderon next? just asking.
floyd last hurrah was morethan two years ago, most hardly remember his victory over hatton. this mayweather hype fanatics are all mired from the past. there is a new king!
ALL HAIL THE P4P KING MANNY PACMAN PACQUIAO
after 24 round with pacman, jmm was knockdown 4 times and still there are people including mayweather think jmm won, are they blind or fool?
Mr. Brindle, history will judge PBF Jr. as a could have been legend unless he fights the true champions of the welterweight division (Mosely, Cotto & Margarito) instead of picking on smaller fighters who have to bloat themselves up in order to get a match with him.
History will judge The PACMAN as a legend because he dared to go up in weight in order to trade fists with the aknowledged champions of each division.
PBF Jr. vs. JMM will be a stinker of a fight because of their styles.
PBF Jr. will be taking potshots while JMM will be waiting all night to counter. PBF Jr. has to pressure JMM like Juan Diaz did unsuccesfully in order to take him out.
PACMAN vs. PBF Jr. will not happen, they will never come to terms on the purse split.
A PACMAN vs. JMM III fight should happen at 140 lbs. to settle all arguments, regardless of the outcome of their scheduled fights.
PACMAN vs. Cotto will definitely be a toss-up at 144lbs.
legend of what? no manny no money no mayweather no matter
Mr. Liam Brindle,
What a handsome name you carry.
However, the title of your article is not so handsome, and actually, not worth taking a second look. While you may love to write, you manifest also a hearing deficiency, if not, you probably only read what you write. Latest check shows recognition after recognition by the highest bodies and organizations have named Pacquaio in their top lists. Where does Mayweather accomplishments rank in comparison to the string of awards and recognitions Pacquaio has accumulated at age 30. To say Mayweather is a legend, at 32 with 15 less fights than Pacquiao, insinuates you have a selective hearing and seeing deficiency syndrome, or just maybe a very short span of attention to details.
And by the way, I believe you meant “elusive”, and not “illusive” on describing Pity Boy’s running around the ring. Well, we all make mistakes.
You can see Marquez is losing step in his last fights. He was being outscored but eventually he got “LUCKY”. Will he be so lucky against Money? I think not. He
s too old to be lucky. HAHAHAHAH
Mag October Fest na nga lang para SMB si Manny hahaha taas ng rating nun…
Manny vs Cotto October Fest… @147 weight-in hours before the fight…
That’s it. this will be the last time I’m reading your article Liam. YOU’RE A MOUTHPIECE.
Everytime floyd fight in the ring, you can see in his eyes that he’s scared, he is too scared to take a punch so that’s the reason he is a defensive fighter. He’s like a yellow soldier during war who hide underground all the time then when the war is over, he came back and start telling lies about how he fought bravely..hahahaha
kudos to the pacman. the most accomplished fighter of all time. 4 lineal titles, huh! 6 championships, all against the best and bigger opposition. never ducked nobody. don’t want to fight black americans because black americans are boring boxers, runners, no excitement, tell me one who is not!
counting Marquez out already is the negative side of this article. But, lets agree with the author for a moment, if Floyd Jr. manages to wrestle Marquez it doesn’t mean he will have all the leverage in the negotiating table it’s because Floyd Jr. will be fighting Marquez but he forgets that Manny is now looking a fight against a better opponents,a battle tested welterweights. If they both come out victorious against their respective opponents, Manny will be more credited. I definitely not agree about your prediction that Floyd Jr. will KO Marquez in the late round. He may dropped him once or twice but knocking Marquez out is not that easy even Manny’s powerful left is not enough to KO him.
This Stupid & Crazy chicken floyd Mayweather!!!!
Floyd Mayweather is no good in a decent manner. He is full of words and didn’t even match the way he fought. very boring,, he always ran away and hit. That’s not the kind of boxer most people are looking for. Unlike Manny Pacquiao he fought with spirit and with all heart. Manny Pacquiao IS THE BEST… FLOYD SUCKS…
Liam is correct, Marquez will lose since this fight is pre-determined for Floyd to win. This is in the works between GBP and Floyd’s camp since all they care is the big payday with Manny. FIXED FIGHT!!! How many will bet their house that Marquez will win, not a chance. Might as well just watch this after for free!! Floyd a genius??? The guy is a ripoff artist, just like those guys hustling your money on a 3 card monte!!!
decentish article,floyd always been the man,not the most exciting sometimes (unless your a purist) but you can’t deny he’s an absolute genius,a tactical mastermind,he will deinately outfox marquez.I think manny v cotto will be a tougher fight to call,he been stopped at lower weights and if cotto fancies the job and not drained he could rip up the script!Hatton been a disaster waiting to happen and both manny and floyd looked equally as good in their own way against him but i would strongly favour cotto to stop hatton to.
PACQUIAO undoubtedly WON twice over MARQUEZ. There was a scoring error in their first fight, Pacquiao should have won and not a draw. I scored that bout 8 rounds Pacman, 4 rounds Marquez. That second fight is a close fight but Pacquiao knocked down Marquez and that’s the difference.
floyd is the most overrated boxer of all time.. a 39-0 cant justfy a legend.. like marciano undefeated means nothing if didnt fight the best..
yeah 39-0 all he fought is a cab driver lol! cherry picking…
Liam, for your inforamtion, a legend is someone who did the the impossible beyond his physical or whatever resources he or she has during that time..Mayweather is certainly now, he is claiming it and yours too BUT ACTUALLY IS NOT AND IS ONLY DREAMING ABOUT IT..Liam, you are a waste of time.
dmanfrm7lakes…what have I stated that is incorrect? i have given my opinion for others to mull over and discuss.
mexifan you are right PAC-MAN v MARQUEZ would break records but c’mon lets face it MAYWEATHER v PAC-MAN would sell waaaaaaaaaaaaay more PPV, i know over here in the UK there would be more people buying MAYWEATHER v PAC-MAN if for nothing else than the fact that the british boxing public have a hell of a lot of respect for both these fighters because of what each of them did to Ricky Hatton…im not saying that the british dont respect JMM.
I dont Undserstand why this people saying that Juan Manuel Marquez won two times againts Pacquaio, Are you aware of the mistakes of the judge in the first fight, by which JuanMa was knockout which the real and legal ruling for knockout is 10-6 and the judge msitakingly counted 10-7….and look just for saying that Juanma won is blinded because of pride. And this Marquez Juan is full of pride can’t accept defeat, we know that boxing is obviously like gambling and one must be realsitic of it, and all boxers must understand the reality….No doubt that at this moment Pacquaio is the top of his boxing carrier….Most of this boxer are crying baby like JuanMa…..thats all.
pacquaio vs marquez 3 would be a ppv boxoffice record, oscar gbp would be all over this match for a redeemtion for his country men. after pacman clean the mexican boxing house and turning the mexicanfans into a pacman converts. this would be an all out war. we know how much marquez wants to quinch his thirst for revenge. hell, even margarito is calling manny out from the grave. looking to get a shot at pacman, once the tornado gets ressurected. floyd jr. does not really want to fight pacquiao as much as other boxers.
role* e town and Sarah, JMM trained for months and he was already given two chances to beat pacman and to convince the boxing world about beating the pacman. Instead he kisses the canvas four times, so obviously he wasn’t convincing enough in those fights to really say he won both fights. Again, he had two chances and trained for months and it still wasn’t enough. So shut up, he still has the L on his record, and pacman has the W, officially, not hypothetically.
I wonder what VIP treatment was given to this writer by Golden Boy. lol….PBF a legend? Of the worst kind maybe. He is a boring fighter who wants to be exciting by trash-talking.
why we didn’t call all this boxer (pacman, cotto, moneygreedywheather, mosley, marquez, margarito) to come in the ring at the same time and let theme fight rumble…..the last man standing i’m sure he is the WORLD GREAT FIGHTER. what do you think? it’s good for boxing fans, one PPV or ticket u can watch all the boxer at the same time at te same place. u can save money & save time.
Well, Manny can also say that he already soften Marquez up already and that he’s shot. The tables can be turned on this, especially if Floyd’s in a competetive fight with Marquez.
Pacquaio vs Marquez III in Spring 2010
PRINCE B,
I LIKE THAT ” COTTO VS. MAYWEATHER 2010″. COTTO IS GOING 2 BEAT PACMAN BY KO IN THE 9TH!
u are absolutely 100% correct art…it’s american way of excuses if they lose.
pbf can only win by ud, but jmm has a chance to win.
if mayweather loses hes gonna use the rib inury as an excuse.
Cotto vs Mayweather in 2010? Are you for real?
Cotto may be allowed to fight Mayweather in 2013 when he is well on his way out. Besides winning the last fight with a nasty cut against a guy who could not finish him, who has Cotto fought? Zab Judah? He beat Moseley in a not so impressive fight by decision, but who has he really fought in their prime? Margarito? Cmon, he had Margarito beat the first six rounds easily, even if he (Margarito) had hands of stone, there is no explanation for him running out of gas starting in the seventh. It was a brilliant strategy by Cotto’s corner; however, the result hurt him in the end because he was not able to sustain boxing after the sixth. He ran out of gas.
It’s Money vs Pacman that people want to see, lets’ hope it’s soon.
Cotto should consider a second fight against Moseley and if he is successful….who knows?
Maybe the winner between Money and Pacman.
#7 and #8
You speak as if a certain judge didn’t admit that he incorrectly scored a round in the first Pac v JMM fight.
Everybody knows that the three knock-down round should have been scored 10-6 to Pac and not 10-7, which would have given him the W.
kurty:
I agree, Boxing has become more of a business than a sport. It’s all about the money not the fights any more. Mayweather won’t take Pacman this year. Cotto/Pacman is almost done the only issue as you said is the weight which is a great move from Pacman’s corner because the lower the weight the weaker Cotto will be which will make him an easier target, remember Cotto lost one amature fight due to the weight which is when he started going up in weight.
boxing is mutating. before it is just a sport then becomes a business, now it is like a circus or a movie. Have all of you ever thought that all of these are planned for the upcoming best fight this year. pac vs floyd nov 2009. a record blockbuster fight with stories in between. JMM vs floyd not going to happen. floyd rib injury is part of the plan to delay and irritate the fans. pacman vs cotto or mosley not going to happen yet. weight issue 144 or 145lbs is just making a longer and interesting story. how come pacquiao fought dela hoya at 147lbs? They are making a big movie, big money, record breaking PPV and making boxing back on track above UFC and WWE. Both floyd and pac will have the best documentary series like movie superstars during the next months.
People talk as if pacman vs mayweather will be a 50/50 fight and that pacman will run through a certain miguel cotto. lol. cotto is the best welterweight out there , and people act like its just about how pacman beats him.
Cotto vs Mayweather 2010.
Mayweather is good but appearently you haven’t really kept up with Marquez fights. The weight class is not a problem; starting in a lower class and going up is a smart move as you get older you need to go up not down in weight just look at the last Morales fight. Mayweather is a great boxer but he’s a one punch boxer and he’s greates most often used tool is messing with he’s opponents head and Marquez is all about combinations, he’s fast, aacurate, able/willing to adjust he’s game plan and instead of you getting to he’s head and messing him up he concentrates more, Mayweather is going to get he’s first lost and its going to be by TKO. Everyone keeps talking about Pacman he’s a great boxer but we all know Marquez beat him in both fights, yes he knocked him out but even so that didn’t face him, didn’t stop him and Marquez got up and took every round in both fights. Pacman doesn’t want to take on Marquez wonder why???? I had being waiting for this fight and I’m so thrilled that its finally happening. Mayweather/Mosley would be a great fight but Mayweather already said he wont take him. Cotto/Pacman is going to be a great fight but Pacman is going to knock out Cotto worse & faster than Margarito did.
well money just took the fight where i think he is going to get whooooped? marquez beat pacman twice in my eyes? those fights were just bad 2 d bone? i hope d money vs marquez fight goes to that level? nonstop punching duo? after marquez beats money hopefully it will b PACMAN VS MARQUEZ 3?
You’re right Liam, Marquez did give Pacquiao problems…but he also gave Pacquioa problems 3 weight classes below the welterweight limit. Marquez has never been tested above the 135lbs and although his fights against Juan Diaz and Casamayor were pretty impressive, he was being schooled by Diaz for the first 5-6 six rounds…if Diaz had any type of power, Marquez would have been in trouble…now imagine if Floyd had been giving Marquez problems and hitting him with the shots that Diaz was hitting him with. Do you think he would have made it through 6 rounds? Floyd’s shots will hurt JMM much more than Diaz as he’s a naturally MUCH bigger guy. That’s why people are giving him crap about taking this fight instead of a Mosley, Cotto, hell, even Berto or Clottey.
i guarentee Floyd has not out weighed an opponent on the night of the fight since he fought at super feather. Marquez came in at 146lbs on fight night agaisnt Casamayor, i doubt Mayweather will be bigger.
Your just hating on Floyd because you think he’s arrogant. But it ain’t arrogant if you can back it up. 39-0 says it all.
I am by no means sayint it will be an easy fight or counting chickens…I believe that he took this fight because he believes Marques beat Manny twice.
Blaza I understad what you are saying about your own weight class but…Cotto, Mosley & Margarito have all beaten eachother so who ‘should’ Mayweather fight first?
Lets face it the whole world wants:
MAYWEATHER v PACQUIAO
I just think that Mayweather is taking the quickest route to that fight.
Plus if Manny fights Cotto and defeats Cotto before Mayweather then Mayweather must feel that if he beats Pac-Man he will shut everyone up.
Liam Brindle have you ever questioned why he is taking Marquez two weight classes above his usual????. He should fight Cotto or Mosley. Not catchweight boxers.. Even if he beats Marquez or Manny by forcing them to go up two weightclasses proves NOTHING. He should fight boxers which are already his same weightclass….Cotto or Mosley. And i truly believed he retired when the heat was on him to fight Cotto.
the problem with this article is that liam is counting marquez out already. assumming floyd can just walk on marquez with a late ko. anything can happen in boxing. to assume a floyd win is to make an ASS out of U & floyd. do not count he chicken if the eggs hasn’t hatch.