Boxingnews24 – Pound for Pound rankings
July 28th, 2009
By Liam Santiago: Below is the top ten pound for pound boxers in the world according to boxingnews24, from myself, Liam Santiago. I’m sure the ranking will spark an uproar between readers and I expect to take some serious criticism as a result of my choices. So, we now have an official pound for pound ranking. The list will be frequently posted on the site and should there be any changes or alterations the list will be immediately available for viewing on boxingnews24.
1.MANNY PACQUIAO
light welterweight
2.JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
lightweight
3.BERNARD HOPKINS
light heavyweight
4.MIGUEL COTTO
welterweight
5.SHANE MOSLEY
welterweight
6.CHAD DAWSON
light heavyweight
7.NONITO DONAIRE
flyweight
8.PAUL WILLIAMS
light middleweight
9.VITALI KLITSCHKO
heavyweight
10.KELLY PAVLIK
middleweight
Now, I understand that these new rankings will cause a disturbance between readers. You might not agree. You might think certain fighters deserve a place in that list and have been left out. Any questions will be happily answered in the comments box.
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mayweather is the best pound for pound he went out the sport on top he came back in the sport on top. yes manny is a great fighter but people forget he has been nocked out an out boxed before
1) Manny Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
2) Floyd Mayweather Jr
3) Shane Mosley
4) Chad dawson
5) David Haye
6) Marquez
7) Paul williams
9) T bradly
10) Valero
1 = Pacquiao – He has faced and beat them all
2 = Mayweather – He would be No.1 if he had not dodged so many
3 = Williams – The most avoided fighter in the world
4 = Mosley – Deserves his place, should fight Cotto again
5 = Marquez – A legend
6 = Hopkins – ok… i suppose so, lol
7 = Donaire – Unstoppable
8 = Dawson – Needs some opposition
9 = Valero – I know but… wow
10 = Haye – Totally deserves it and will prove me right
After pac vs De-le hoya, hatton and then Cotto u can not say PAC man is not P4P number 1. Pac fights anyone, mayweather runs
way to go Liam — i dont think pacman is number one though…
1. Hatton
2. Marquez
3. Cotto
4. Mayweather
5. Donaire
mayweather shud be no 1!!
as hes unbeaten, then pacman
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather jnr
3. Shane Moseley
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Paul Williams
6. Juan M Marquez
7. Juan M Lopez
8. David Haye
9. Chad Dawson
10. Edwin Valero
11. Israel Vasquez
12. Vitali Klitchsko
13. Wladimir Klitchsko
14. Tomasz Adamek
15. Mikkel Kessler
My list is influenced by more recent fights and fighters who I think are more value for money.
1. l james
2. k bryant
3. d howard
4. c anthony
5. d wade
6. a stodamire
7. c bosh
8. t. mcgrady
9. a iverson
10.s o’niel
this is a good approach to get the readers attention… this will make the readers think of their own list…
you can put whoever you like (you can even place Manuel Perez at the first slot for a laugh) in the list Liam… you are entitle to your own opinion… by the way, this is a nice “gimmick”… this doesn’t sound “wussy” like Manuel Perez’s articles
Boxing
Top Ten
Paqueao
Marquez
Floyd
Hopkins
Mosley
Cotto
w.klitschko
Pelenchin Caballero
Juanma López
Kelly Pavlik
1 floyd mayweather jr
Here’e mine:
1. Ron Artest (u know what he did)
2. Shaq (fight w/Barkley)
3. Barkley (fight w/Shaq)
4. Melo (fight w/ Knicks players)
5. Chris Childs (punched Kobe)
6. Stephen Jackson (backing up Artest)
7. Sprewell (punched his coach)
8. Yeo (punched E.Vill)
9. Iraqi nations who thew shoe at Bush
10.Manny Pacquiao
9.
Pinoy boxers pound 4 pound
1. manny pacquiao (49-3-2-(37)KO) world champ
2. nonito donaire (21-1-14KO)world champ
3. brian viloria (25-2-15KO)world champ
4. donnie nietes (21-1-14KO)world champ
5. rafael concepcion (29-1-16KO)
6. aj banal (19-1-14KO)
7. z gorres (29-2-16KO)
8. m. melindo (18-0-11KO)
9. mark melligen (15-11-11KO)
10.rey boom2 bautista (28-2-19KO)
Pinoy boxers pound 4 pound
1. manny pacquiao (49-3-2-(37)KO) world champ
2. nonito donaire (21-1-14KO)world champ
3. brian viloria (25-2-15KO)world champ
4. donnie nietes (21-1-14KO)world champ
5. rafael concepcion (29-1-16KO)
6. aj banal (19-1-14KO)
7. z gorres (29-2-16KO)
8. m. melindo (18-0-11KO)
9. mark melligen (15-11-11KO)
10.rey boom2 bautista (28-2-19KO)
starvin haggler
pacman
marquez
hopkins
cotto
mosely
vazquez
marquez
williams
dawson
OK Im willing to make one change JUST ONE. Im gonna let you lot chose who comes out. so..who’s it to be?
Someone also mentioned John Murray which is a disgrace. Murray a poor, poor example of a boxer, as is his brother joe. Khan would demloish that man.
x-men – sorry, your going to have to type that again mate. you said ‘He doesn’t went to Light Heavy Weight before going to Heavy weight’.
could you please explaion to me what that means mate? Ta.
I picked Vitali because no one can beat him today, including wlad, haye, arreola etc. I might even swap his plavce with shane mosley.
VITALI KLITSCHKO??….Are you nuts Liam Santiago??…He doesn’t went to Light Heavy Weight before going to Heavy weight!!!!..funny joke!
adam fellingham, your list are never heard boxers, you even put sleeping Hatton on 3rd spot, but where is the one who put him to sleep-Pacman, looks like you are European, he-he-he
ShaqJr. Good list i like it. Valero, undefeated but one dimensuonal. fought no1 good. he can punch thats it.
taenyorin…angulonimo
where is Edwin Valero? he’s not on the list. Edwin Valero, a lightweight, boast a win-loss record of 27 wins – 0 Loss, 27 by way of KO’s. although Manny would call his opponents as taxi drivers, but this guy is no joke. he should be on the top 10 list of P4P, maybe number 10? (hehehe) anyways it’s only a list, and everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion.
1. pacman
2. golez
3. lacson
4. de castro
5. bayani
6. roxas
7. marcos
8. noynoy
9. pokwang
10. mayol
how’s this liam? my top 10 p4p fearsome FIGHTERS list. no steroids-no mosley. no bhop-no near future fight.
1. pac
2. jm.marquez
3. i.vasquez
4. p.williams
5. m.cotto
6. r.marquez
7. n.donaire
8. c.caballero
9. t.adamek
10. w.klitschko
THOSE WHO DO NOT RANK PACMAN AS THE NUMBER ONE POUND FOR POUND IS EITHER BLIND OR CRAZY OR JUST IGNORANT AND NO BUSINESS TALKING ABOUT BOXING!!!
1. pacman..till nov. 14th
2.cotto..till nov. 14th..lol
3. mayweather
4. p.williams
5. mosley
6. margarito with the plaster..lol..
calzaki
7. bhop
8. calderon
9. juanma
10. gamboa
Mosley should be rated higher than B-Hop.
Tae nyong lahat..
1. ekngob
2. jimy
3. totong
4. lagum
5. jong-utang
6. malamjo
7.
shut up! MAYWEATHER! your a noisy gong…. you should retire permanently.. arthritis will knock you out! ulol!
MOSLEY SHOULD BE HIGHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why don’t everyone stick to the Ring Magazine.
Look. who has a better defense than me? Nobody. Who is faster than me? nobody?
Joe Calzaghe is too slow for me and has no footwor? i Would throw fast combinations whilst dancing round the ring looking like Ali.
I am the greatest! Name a man who can beat me bar God! Nobody!
Uhhhhhhhhhh
What are we talking about again?
1. manny mayweather
2. floyd pakyaw
3. manuel cotto
4. miguel marquez
5. sugar leonard
6. antonio kamay na bato margarito
7. fernando lumacad
8. genghis khan
9. hayden kho
10. aling dionesea
1. Chitae
2. Enteng
3. Dolphy
4. Panchito
5. Chiquito
6. Babalu
7. Pugak
8. Cachupoy
9. Katrina Halili
10. Hayden Kho – Libog
No, Im the p4p best. i have the best defense and im the fastest.
im so fast i can be in bed before the light goes out.
sting like a buterflt fly like bee
I’m glad you added Donaire
I would disagree, I should be the pound for pound king, MANNY just caught me with a LUCKY punch.
Great Job Micheal I will increase your salary with $100,000. I would say it’s MANNY PACQUIO because he brings lot of MONEY to me.
I’ve have been a boxing announcer for my entire life, I have seen lot of boxer, I say that PACMAN is the best in the planet, Mayweather mouth is much bigger brains.
I did not retire… I am just sick and tired of boxing that is why I need a vacation… The other reason why I retired is I don’t have anything to prove anymore… I have fought the greatest fighters out there but the thing is, no one can beat me… I have zero (0) lost… I hope everybody can understand that…
This is non sense… I say again… I am still the current #1 pound 4 pound… Do you understand…
here is the real top 10
1. manny pacquio
2. nonito doniere
3. bernabe concepcion
4, ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10.?
here is the real top 10
1. manny pacquio
2. manny pacquio
3. manny pacquio
4, manny pacquio
5. manny pacquio
6. manny pacqui0
7. manny pacquio
8. manny pacquio
9. manny pacquio
10 manny pacquio
who the hell is chad? I’v never heard of this dude… and i agree juanma lopez should be in that list, I love nonito donier but i dont think he has earned his way into this list YET. he will soon but he still nees more knockouts on bigger names.
———> I’M STILL THE # 1 POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER… THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT.
1. Pacman
2. Aling dionisia
3. Pokwang
4. Manny Pokyaw
5. Chocolate
6. Empoy
7. Long Mejia
8. Moymoy Palaboy
9. Aiai
10. Dagul
Willdwt. Mayweather isnt on because he hasnt fought since retirement.
Paul Williams is only #8?
Mayweather isn’t even on the list?
Easily the worst P4P rankings I have ever seen.
Haven’t anybody here any respect at all to Manuel Perez. Why did you put Pacquiao on top. It will make Perez, supreme court, batagueno crazier. Perez! this website and Liam Santiago owe you an apology. But don’t worry just drink your medicine, stay calm and call your doctor.
..IF COTTO DIDN’T PUT HIS TITLE ON LINE,AND HE HAS MANY ALIBI’S, IT ONLY MEANS “HE IS AFRAID TO LOSE TO MANNY PACQUIAO”..AND HE KNOWS IT THAT HE WILL KISS THE CANVASS IF THE FIGHT BEGIN.SO HE IS GAY LIKE DELAHOYA,HE’S MOST GREEDY..IN THAT CASE,EVEN GERRY PEÑALOSA CAN DEFEAT COTTO IN ROUND 1,2SECONDS TKO,AND DIRECT TO HOSPITAL DUE TO COMMA..HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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@adamfillingham
Haha great list of top 10 loser!
seriously i think only 8 deserve to be metioned as pound4pound contenders. it just so happens that it’s a list where it can go to infinity but as far as accomplishment, skill, strength, speed, etc. only 8 i believe deserve such credentials
1.mannny pacquiao only
Top Ten:
(1) Pac Man
(2) B Hop
(3) J M Marquez
(4) Floyd Mayweather
(4) Shane Mosley
(5) Manuel Maidana
(6) Paul Williams
(7) Chad Dawson
(8) Isreal Vasquez
(9) Miguel Cotto
(10) Joshua Clottey
non of the euro fighters should be in the list as non have any real credentials.
tae kuto: pls clarify your list or they’ll think ur a pac-hater lol. u should have said:
1. pacquiao (jr. welter)
2. pacquiao (lightwt)
3. pacquiao (welterwt)….
my list:
1. pacman
2. JMM
3. paul williams
4. b-hop
5. shane mosley
6. dawson
7. cotto
8. juanma
9. pavlik
10. brock lesner
*leave* typo sorry
why is everybody insisting that JMM is the P4P? No way in hell…just live the critics to the expert. MP is number one and I agree all the way.
what the?
chad daw…? what?!
klitsko what?!
who are these people? mr. Jab-Straight!
here is the real top 10
1. manny pacquio
2. manny pacquio
3. manny pacquio
4, manny pacquio
5. manny pacquio
6. manny pacqui0
7. manny pacquio
8. manny pacquio
9. manny pacquio
10 manny pacquio
1.JMM 2.Pacman 3Hopkins 4.Mosley 5.Cotto 6.I.Vasquez 7.R.Marquez 8.Wladimir 9.P.Williams 10.C.Dawson
Haha, Mike. Did big aud really call out haye? or are you messing? lol
Wayne Lord. You made some good points. Hopkins even beat Pavlik by grabbing and all that in the late rounds. But to be fair he did win.
Pacquiao is the best today no question.
And your right on Floyd. Why he retired in his prime ill never know. he lost 2 good years. and i still say there is welters out there today that can beat him. i wont mention his name…cotto…sorry had to say it.
Haha after reading all this I actually wanna see Audley back in the ring!
He was calling Haye out a few weeks ago, I think Haye should ‘man-up’ and take on A-Force to see if he can really cut it with a bigger man, nevermind a big man with immense boxing skills like the Klitschkos!
Any list that has on Hopkins (Mr. clutch, grab, feint, grab, feint, feint, feint, push, grab, jab, grab, butt, sneer, forearm, jab, sneer, jab, grab and feint), is no good!
He beat an over hyped Pavlik and overblown Winky. He also beat Tarver who was still living off his win over a weight drained Super Roy; he was too busy was still living the high life as the Heavy Champ IN ROCKY, an effing movie!!!
Funny, he almost got beat by an old, shot ROCKY and then really lost to B-Hop, clearly a weight drained condition. It was like poetic justice because he criticized Super Roy for using the same excuse when he beat him!
Any list that has Floyd (I can kiss the ass of any fighter that I refuse to fight because I do not want to fight them; because I fight only for money, but have not fought in 2 years, and even then, against an old fighter and a blown up, weak 140lber, and now will fight an old, blown up 130 lber, but first I must blast a few old white guys who dare to interview me and ask the questions fans want to hear about my balls and guts; which clearly I don’t have) Mayweather IS ALSO WEAK!!
And how dare Boxing News embarass Perez with a list that shows Pacman as No 1? Aren’t you one of the many experts he constantly speaks to ( I am beginning to believe he speaks to himself or that he makes up stories which he evntually stars to believe), that says Pacman is overrated? Geez, I forgot he does not read articles that he did not fabricate. Poor lonely fellow, alone in his mind with such one track thoughts about Manny!!!!
ye wheres big aud
lets be fair audley harrison should be in there
Adam Fillingham’s P4P ranks
Clinton Woods
1) David Haye
2) Carl Froch
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Amir Khan
5) Junior Witter
6) Nathen Cleaverly
7) John Murray
9) Jamie Moore
10) Kell Brook
GOOOOOOOOO UK!!!
Oh yeah and while im at it wait til Kell Brook shakes the world!
Hey Liam dont diss Rubber Johnny he didnt say FMjr he said FM me thinks he means snr, right on!
dawson shouldnt be there, and pavlik??? you must be joking. froch, vlad klit, calderon, israel vasquez or caballero should be in there instead of those too, but no…wait, this is a yank site
how the hell is hopkins in the pound for pound top ten .chris eubanck. steve collins. iran barkly .julian jackson. erall grham. nigell ben.
gerald mclaran .michael watson .mike mccallum . doug dewitt.roberto duran .james tony . all of them hopkins didnt fieght the only big names he fort was felix tinadad how is welterweight roy jones how he lost to .oscar de la hoya ho started his career at superfeather weight and winky whright ho he fort at lightheavey wen winky is a junior middle. next week theyl be telling us amir khan’s got the best chin in the buisness
Dawson and Pvlik are two fighters who Froch and Nate Campbell should both be above
KELLY PAVLIK got beat by B Hop does not belong in the list aint really done much since taylor. the KLITSCHKO’s who do they fight? thats a joke, and Chad Dawnson jus runs his mouth alot needs the action to be in with these lads
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Shane Mosley
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Miguel Cotto
6. Ivan Calderon
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Paul Williams
9. Carl froch
10. David Haye
so come on mr rich, if u criticise back it up. who u put in big man?
The fighters in the top 5 are correct but not in the right order i wouldnt put none of the bottom 5 in there. And Mayweather didnt even get a mention, i know he retired but it wasnt that long ago. poor list, slightly dissapointed.
Come on! What sort of a list is that?
Where is AUDLEY HARRISON. The man who won gold at olympics. gold at commenwealth. gold at every other amateur tournament. Went 10 fights UNBEATEN.
Audley is a living icon. An inspiration yo Neil Armsrtong and Einstien Themselves. He should at least make the No 4 spot.
Rubber Johny. gr8 choices but please take FMjr out of there man.
1) Audley Harrison
Enzo Macarinelli
2) Matt Skelton
3) Tyson Fury
4) Matthew Hatton
5) Prince Naseem Hamed
6) Monte Barratt
7) Tomasz Bonin
9) John Thaxton
10) Floyd Mayweather
Pac Man
JMM
B Hop
Moseley
Cotto
Kessler (Don’t care what any1 says)
Lopez
Williams
Abraham
Dawson
And as for Abraham. When he steps up and fights top class fighters and wins ill ill start to think of him at p4p level. Thats the difference between him and Kelly Pavlik. After the supersix we’ll see how good he is.
Flores. The p4p ratings is not about who wants to fight joe bloggs and whos ducking daffy duck. Its about who’s the best. Apart from losing to Calzaghe, what has kessler EVER done?
I’d personally put Khan at about 25/30 at the moment. He’s great. But not proven at that level.
Amir khan in the top 10 list is the BEST boxing joke ive heard in over 10 years easy LOL.
1.Pacquiao
2.JMM
3.Paul Williams
4.B-Hop
5.Mosley
6.Cotto
7.Donaire
8.JuanMa
9.Vitali
1) Mayweather
Miguel Cotto
2) Hopkins
3) Pacquiao
4) Wladimir Klitschko
5) Vitali Klitschko
6) Mosley
7) Nathan Cleverly
9) Carl Froch
10) Amir Khan (As Freddie Roach rightly says before you all disagree!)
Ok i realise Nathan Cleverly can’t even be considered in it because he hasn’t had big fights yet butin 2 yrs I think he will easily be in this list.
Marquez is totally over rated.
Pavlik is a ghost… in the fact he does nothing in ring so u wouldn’t know he’s there.
The Klitschkos wont get the respect they deserve until yrs down the line and people look back on them for being as dominating as they are but wont be biased because they wont be currently beating their favourite fighters.
you have exactly the same names on your list that I do except that I have JuanMa and not Pavlik
1. PAC
2. JMM
3. BHOP
4. SSM
5. PAUL WILLIAMS
6. DONAIRE
7. VITALI
8. DAWSON
9. COTTO
10. JUANMA
the list is a joke, vazquez and raf marquez two names which should be on anybody’s top ten pound for pound the fact that they’re not there and vitali, pavlik and dawson have all made it is laughable
I enjoy.. blah blah.. why mate?
Thanks for these comments. Eliel Flores. What has Kessler done since losing to Calzag? nothing. Those 3 you mentioened arent far out. Vitali, Dawson and Pavlik. I knew these 3 would cause havoc. But there all good and hopefully they will prove that in the next 12 months.
Adam. Do I ven need to say this. We all know how much sense your comments are.
I think Bararra should be in there
i think cottos under rated he should be no 1
Cheers guys, keep the comments coming. Kelly Pavlik, yes he got schooled by an old man, who happens to be no 3 and no1 on boxrec. Pavlik is still top class.
Dawson. He might not have fought the best. But he has called out Calzaghe, Hopkins etc.
Liam Brindle, cheers mate, your right Mosleys a touchy one. Cotto’s beat him but he beat Margarito.. it goes on. And I think Hatton’s abit out yet lol.
PR Boxing News Top 10
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Juan M. Marquez
5. Shane Mosley
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Ivan Calderon
8. Chad Dawson
9. Arthur Abraham
10.Juan Manuel Lopez
Why Nonito Donaire? What did he do? he only got 22 fight is too early to put him in such important list.
Wladimir has made more than Vitali.
Paul Williams has no path Carlos Quintana beat him, and in the remach i think the referee stop the fight to early.
Kelly Pavlik was humiliated by the old Hopkins and the only fighter with a name on his reacord is Jermain Taylor who was vapuleated by Carl Froch.
And what happend with Ivan Calderon,Juanma Lopez or Arthur Abraham or maybe Mikkel Kessler that in my opinion its the best who has been fought Calzaghe. Man and you call your self an expert in boxing? My deaf-blind great grandma can do a better list than yours jajajaja
pavlik doesnt belong to this list…………..but i think you have to put pretty boy back on the list.
Kelly Pavlik? What exactly has he done since the Taylor fights (except taking a beating off of Bhop)?
Vitali was hardly that impressive in his last fight either. I don’t think either of the brothers deserve a place in the top 10 but surely Wladmir has to be above Vitali for his win over Chageav.
Chad Dawson at No.6? Behave.
Have to agree with Paul Williams. It’s a shame that so many people duck him as he has a fantastic workrate and is very entertaining.
hahahaahahahahahahahah. watch boxing for a change.. this is a ridicul;ous list. Kelly Pavlik is terrible
WHERES AUDLEY HARRISON??????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good that you acknowledge one of the Klitschkos, unlike other highly acclaimed p4p rankings that continue to ignore them.
Only problem I have is Chad Dawson and Pavlik, in my opinion Kessler would beat both these guys.
Dont think Cotto should be so high either. He has a lot to prove after the Margarito mauling (hand wrap conspiracy or not).
agree with boxing expert 100 % your on crack m8 so lay off it. Vitali klitschko wasn’t even a top 10 fighter in his prime never mind fighting gomez and peter so crackhead. Chad Dawson is argueable but i have no problem but Kelly Pavlik LMFAO he got schooled by a 43 year old grandad (although B Hops Class) n where do you find doniare from. You need to change your sport and you need to go to rehab.
hmmmmm Mosley should be higher!
Good job Liam!
I wouldnt have Chad Dawson in there until he has fought someone like B-Hop.
No Ricky Hatton? i kno he got a beating off Pac… maybe your right.
I wouldnt have Shane Mosley in there either to be honest.
its pretty good , i think that pretty accurate, good job!
Where’s juanma? Where’s vazquez/Marquez?
I agree with everyone being on this list besides doniare and vitali. Vitali hasent down squat but stop a slow Peter. N doniare since beating Vic doesn’t want to take chances n go up in weight n fight known fighters.
I would rather have berto and Abraham replace those two.
Not sure Chad Dawson should be on this list, let alone be as high as #6. Sure, he is undefeated, and has a decent resume (Tarver x2, Glen Johnson, Harding, Ademak), but if he is on here, then Juan Manuel Lopez has certainly earned a spot here. Dawson has not dominated his foes in the manner that Lopez has.
most of them i agree with but not vital his bother mybe but not vitali.
You are on crack. Lay off of it.