Between the Contract and Catchweight, Cotto will be at a huge disadvantage against Pacquiao
July 5th, 2009
By Manuel Perez: If Miguel Cotto wants to make the fight with Manny Pacquiao, he’s going to have to probably settle for a deal of 30 to 35% of the purse slit with Pacquiao taking 65 to 70%. Besides that, Cotto is also going to have likely agree to a catch weight of less than 145, a weight that was brought up previously as an agreeable catch weight number. It’s unknown what weight Pacquiao and his team will agree on, but look for Cotto having to come in at either 143 or 144.
The De La Hoya win was less impressive than it might have been because De La Hoya was forced to come in at a 147 pound catch weight, which was a seven pounds lighter than what De La Hoya normally fights at. The loss of weight left De La Hoya greatly weakened and not at his best on fight night and he ended up being defeated by Pacquiao in a one-sided 8th round stoppage in December.
De La Hoya said afterwards that he felt tired and weak after the 1st round and had no energy after this round. This effectively meant that Pacquiao’s win over De La Hoya was hallow and not as real as it seemed although unknowing boxing fans with only a cursory knowledge of the sport accepted Pacquiao’s victory as being real.
However, with De La Hoya basically weakened and neutralized because of the catch weight, Pacquiao’s was a victory in name only in my view.
In his fight with Hatton it wasn’t a case of catch weight but rather Hatton just not being prepared to fight a fighter with the quickness of Pacquiao. Hatton didn’t help himself by gaining and then having to lose weight to make the fight. It seems that Hatton had gone to the well one too many times and wasn’t prepared physically to fight Pacquiao on that night and ended up being taken out in the 2nd round.
Cotto, 28, will have to hope that he’s not too weakened by whatever catch weight that Pacquiao and his team come up with. I can’t imagine that he’ll be able to operate at full power if he’s forced to come in at less than 145. Cotto looks sickly even when he’s dehydrating to get down to 147, and I can’t imagine how he’ll be able to strip down an additional three to five pounds to make the catch weight demands that Pacquiao is asking for.
A win for Pacquiao over a weight drained Cotto won’t mean anything other than that he can beat a weight drained fighter. This is the problem for fighters like Pacquiao who choose to take on fighters in the higher weight classes. For him to be competitive, he requests that his bigger opponents come in at a lighter weight.
The choice of Cotto, as most people are already aware, is a strange one given that Cotto was recently destroyed by Mexican Antonio Margarito in a 11th round stoppage in 2008. Cotto recently won a controversial 12-round split decision over Joshua Clottey in his last fight on June 13th.
For some people, they see Cotto as as having lost two out of his last three fights, which isn’t exactly the kind of earth shattering opponent that you would expect to be matched up with Pacquiao. But then again, De La Hoya had lost three out of his last six fights coming into his bout with Pacquiao and Hatton had lost one out of his last three and got extra help from the referee when he pulled Juan Lazcano off of Hatton in the 8th after Juan had Ricky badly hurt from a big left hook.
The referee stopped the action to allow Hatton to have his shoelaces tied in the middle of him being battered around the ring after being hurt.
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I agree. Oscar was much smaller than Pac on fight night. I think that a lot of the light weight fighters weighed 108 at the age of 16, but at age 28 the were at 140.
Pac is played on this and gained hughe advantages by getting Oscar to come in weight drained.
When all is said and done I think there is a reasonable possibility that Oscar have a greater legacy than Pac. Don’t forget Oscar fought Hopkins, but he went up to 160 and did not ask Hopkins to come down in weight.
Cotto is a sucker and deserves to loose if he falls for the same bullshit line that Oscar did.
cotto would lose this fight at any weight. mannys got too much for him. even before the margarito fight. its true.
manny gets paid good good money to right these articles. waste of £
Come on Manny, write another article. We need some debating on this website.
When Oscar fought Pac,even freddy roach said that he could see the syringe marks on Oscar’s arm where they were trying to get some kind of fluids into his body because He was unable to retain any water after the weigh’n do to his training for the fight.Oscar did not even gain any weight after the weigh’n.On the unofficial scales b4 the fight they said Oscar was weighed with all of his clothes on and his sneakers,and he only weighed 147lbs.That means that he was probably not even 147 the night of the fight considering that a fighter at the weigh’n gets weighed with as little clothes on as possible.When a fighter gets on the scales for a fight,they usualy gain some of there natural fluid weight after, that is needed for them to have strength come fight night.When was the last time you seen Oscar not gain some weight after the weigh’n come fight night?I mean!Pac weighed more then Oscar on the night of the fight.Somethings wrong if a man thats supposed to be the smaller man at(5′7′)comes into a welter weight fight weighing more then the supposed bigger man.Pac(150lbs)Oscar(147lbs)on fight night.Something not right about that picture.
I read that in the contract for the fight,Osar was not even allowed to gain any weight after the weigh’n or freddy would not allow Pac to fight.
All that stuff about how Oscar kept saying that he felt good and comfortable being at that 145lbs early in the training camp was true.But only shows that in doing so he left everything in the gym.You dont go into camp and weeks b4 the fight you weigh 145lbs.Oscars camp tried this strategy but it backfired.Yes he felt good in training,but ask Oscar if he felt good on fight night.Oscars camp should of never let Oscar go below the 147lb limit,why should he,the fights at 147lbs.There was no reason for him to go below that weight.They should have let Oscar hover above 147 by acouple of pounds and then afew days leading into the weigh’n get him down to 147lbs for just that little amount of time.Oscar going under the limit all the down to 145lbs was just plain n simpleythe wrong thing to do to his body at that point of his career.
Oscar never ducked a fight ever.At junior light weight and light weight yes Oscar was the taller man,but to say that he picked on smaller men is ridiculous.
I mean,Mosley said the same thing about when he was a light weight,that he realy wasn’t a light weight but was able to make the weight comfortably so he continued fighting in the division and racked up a nice K.O.percentage fighting as the naturaly bigger man then his opponents.
Can you knock Paul Williams if he was able to get fights and stayed in the welter weight div just because he is a tall man (6′1″).
If a fighter is able to make the weight, then he can fight at that weight whatever weight that might be.
Pac is not a 108lber no more,hasn’t been for a long time now.Its easier for Pac to gain a few pounds of muscle then it is for his opponents to strip down and lose muscle(strength) at these catch weights.
Pac was like 16 when he was 108lbs.He is a grown man now, not a kid anymore people.
when is pacman going 2 accept this fight make it final already or your geting second thouts?wtf!!!i want this fight 2 happen dont back down now pacman cottos waiting!!!!!.
how can any1 sat this pacquiao bum is p4p best. hes PHILIPINO for god sake, to be he best he has to be BRITISH NOT PILIPIONO. hes a bum. fight moseley or go and die.
nepster you took the words out of my mouth. haha. this manuel perez guy is so stupid.
Look at the hate for Manuel! Don’t do it guys, he feeds off of it.
Manuel’s sitting in front of his Margarito poster now just breathing deep, sweat pouring off his face, stroking Margaritos chin “eez so strong your chin Margarito… so strong!”. All the while the comments are mounting up on his articles and for him, its another victory, again the poster… “I preach your name Antonio, and you see? they listen man, they effing love you man!”.
Manuel
Ok….so let me start off by saying that Pac has earned his current spot as P4P champ.
Cotto hasn’t looked the same since Plaster-ito re-arranged his face that night in vegas.
But Cotto is still Elite welter material.
I would say that anything below 146 and you could bet ona Pacquiao victory.
I would…and im a huge Cotto fan.
but anyone calling Cotto a hack……doesn’t deserve to call himself a boxing enthusiast.
poor JMM……..
how many times did he splat his face in the canvas in match with Manny……
and still claimng to be the winner over the fight?
Manny the Pacman…..
From fly weight to welter weight……
Why cant get any credit for that…….
from Barera, Morales, Velasquez, Chololo, Solis, Marques, Dias, Dela Hoya, and last, Haton…
But its a excuse coz for they said they are all overated Bum…….
Batengueno said it already “People will say it is an excuse already for when Cotto loses. Na-ah. We will all see from the get go if he is weakened by making the silly catch weight. We will see if the real Cotto will show up, or like Oscar, he would be a shell of his healthy self.” – which basically means, if Cotto beats him, then Pac’s been over rated, if Cotto loses, then he’s a shell of his healthy self – which basically means, what ever happens, I’m not giving Pac any credit. Just another illustration of a Pac critic already making excuses as to what ever transpire Nov. 14th.
Why do I keep reading comments about how Manny
Pacquiao keeps Making these fighters come down in weight. Cotto would be his first Lady’s and Gentle-men.
Oscar was willing to come down to proved, he was the mexican fighter to stop MP. But yet another bites the dust. We all knew the Oscar fight was a circus fight. 135 LBS guy goes to 147 and a 154 guy come down to 147. That’s 12 pounds for MP to gain and 7 pounds for Oscar to lose. You guys are so worked up about this myth on how Pac make’s these fighters come down, you guys must of forgot he had to go up.. If anything, they both had their own disadvantages. Money talks bull-S..Walks.
SO PLEASE ANTI-PACs…..TELL ME WHO ELSE HAS PAC FOUGHT AT A CATCH WEIGHT?????????????????
YOU CAN’T ANSWER, CAN YOU. Cuz MP haven’t fought a catch weight fight like you Anti-pacs are claiming.
Please Anti-pacs, Know the differences between Facts From (Fiction-”Manuel Perez”)……
I will start off by saying that I have a lot more respect for the editors and writers of the Bible of Boxing, Ring Magazine, than anyone who writes their opinions on this site. I also respect the Boxing Writers Asociation of America a lot too.
And who do they each rate as the No 1 boxer in the world today? Who do they rate as the most exciting? And who does every boxer want to fight? One last time, who do the fans pay top $ to see? I mean the ticket sales and celebrities say it loud and clear. Manny is the man. He is popular and boxers get their biggest payday even if they only get 35% of the whole pie.
Ali, Leonard, Tyson and Oscar were the previous cash cows and everybody wanted pice of them. Ali fought allcomers. Leonard fought great fighters but picked some soft guys too. He selected the gloves, the ring size, the weight and flexibility of the ropes. People accepted because they felt they could win. Whose fault?
TYson was ruthless, hungry & mean and he fought anybody anywhere. Guys knew they would be killed but they got paid well so they fought him. After he made millions he got sloppy & paid the price.
Oscar picked the old, over the hill boxers and made them come up to meet him. He picked the ring, gloves, ropes and weight and took by far the lion’s share. He had a great heart but not the same talent as Ali or Leonard.
He only had to come down from 150 where he fought Forbes and on 24/7 he said he got to 147 early so he could get accustomed and feel comfortable. He would be fresh and strong and he knew he was natuarlly a bigger man. Yes naturally bigger. If you do not get the literal meaning Batanguelo, I suggest you find out what it means. Oh, and find out why they are NOT synthethic weight classes as opposed to natural ones. I think you can read and you do understand why they are in boxing and all forms of combat fighting. Don’t thank me!
Back to Oscar, he only came down 3 lbs meanwhile Manny had to come way up, two classes. Is that unfair? He did the same to Mosley from l-weight to welter and Mosley kicked his ass. Oscar’s problem has always been his inability to hold his stamina. He also was made to look old ans slow because he underestimated Manny’s speed and speed kills. Check Ali, Leonard & Super Roy. The shots were coming so fast that all Oscar could do was quit, like he did against B-Hop. Oh, B-hop did what a bigger man is supposed to do to a little man…overwhelm him with power and strength.
People can criticize Manny and try to belittle his achievements but the real experts and the real educated fans are giving him his dues. You can keep writing your biased articles BUT it won’t change the real facts. You are trying so hard to rewrite history and become a revisionist but you are merely a writer of fiction.
Cotto is a very good fighter who gave Mosley a great fight. I thought he was out on his feet when that fight ended but he held on and got the win. He punished Judah. But Margarito wore him down with loaded gloves and he edged Clottey in a very close fight. He showed great heart to win.
He used to have problems at 140 so he moved to 147. He comes in at 145-146 and says he has no problems at 145, one less than vs Clottey.
What then is the deal? People are already looking for excuses if Manny wins. If he loses, he is/was a bum. Manny is not a big man but he puts on his weight in a very well, trains very hard and is well prepared with a decent game plan. He is my No 1 boxer and I hope he wins. I feel Cotto is still too big but like Ali, he will find a way to beat his George Foreman.
I just want to comment on this article for a second. Number 1 Miguel cotto HIMSELF said that 145 was already agreed upon & that Freddie roach did not have a problem with that. Cotto said that 145 is nothing for him to make because that is usually his target weight when he comes into the ring to fight. For his last fight with clottey he came in at 146 for the weight-in which is only one pound from what he likes to come in at.So this plays right into Cotto’s hand.
Number 2 Manny Pacquaio in my opinion as gifted as he is, is going to get drawn into a technical fight with cotto. Cotto is NOT, I REPEAT IS NOT ricky hatton like some fare weathered fans state. he is a much more skilled fighter & one that has beaten much quicker guys in the past( zab judah & shane mosley).Cotto is also next to impossible to knock out & has proven this in the welterweight division. I truly believe that Cotto is going to use his powerful jad to neutralize Pacquiao’s speed. That is a weapon Cotto loves to use to offset quicker opponents. Pacman will then get impatient & want to start to brawl such as his fights with Marquez. Cotto is an excellent counter puncher & a much stonger one than Marquez & we all know Marquez rocked Pacman in there fights. Cotto will keep his cool & eventually catch Pacman with a left hook which Pacman is open to when he brawls.
Last but not least I think as true boxing fans & I mean TRUE boxings fans we can’t take away from Manny’s accomplishments, but one should truly look at the caliber of fighters he has fought recently. If we take a closer look at this, we will see that not only has Manny fought david Diaz whom was a cherry picked bum, but he fought an over the hill & dehydrated De La Hoya & Ricky Hatton who is nothing more than a unskilled boxer who just tries to bully his way to his opponents & just doesn’t have the skill to beat any true boxer in there prime.
Cotto is getting a bum rap, but I believe that manny is getting himself into a false sence of security in thinking Cotto is going to be a walk in the park. Freddie Roach even stated that he does not see Manny walking through cotto or even knocking him out & Freddie has been Correct on his predictions in his last three fights. So please do not count cotto out. He may just surprise some people Nov. 14th
It is going to be Game Over for Pacman. He is going to get a beating to his body. Cotto is one of the best body punchers and it will be displayed that night. Take notes on what I say, Pacquaio loses from body shots.
Hey Batangeno! or Manuel II, you can rationalize all you can and insist on your version of the Pacman’s previous fights but you will never erase his stature right now. He is the fighter everybody is calling for. He is the greatest payed athlete in boxing today and the reason so many fans are reading Mr. Perez’ articles is because Pacquiao is in it. Get over your bitterness for there is nothing Pacquiao can ever do to gain your approval. Buy a pair of Pacman Nike shoes instead and be happy.Did you know he is one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2009 according to Time magazine?
Hey Batangeno! or Manuel II, you can rationalize all you can and insist on your version of the Pacman’s previous fights but you will never erase his stature right now. He is the fighter everybody is calling for. He is the greatest payed athlete in boxing today and the reason so many fans are reading Mr. Perez’ articles is because Pacquiao is in it. Get over your bitterness for there is nothing Pacquiao can ever do to gain your approval. Buy a pair of Pacman Nike shoes instead and be happy.Did you know he is one of the 100 most influential man in the world?
cotto is a joke… i love how everyone is saying that mayweather shouldnt fight pacman bc he runs but if you look at his last 10 fights… not only as he landed more punches but he also has thrown more than all of his oppenents… he sits on the ropes and lets people in bc hes a counter puncher… pacman isnt cherry picking his opponents… arum is…. bc he has noone left bc cotto cannot sell out a high school gym forget a big venue outside of ny… he fights for free on hbo… hes trash and hes garbage…. pac will win easily
BAGANGUENO
LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE. PAC WEIGHED IN AT 106 AS A SKINNY TEENAGER. HE WALKS AROUND AT 160 TODAY. HE REALLY IS A FULL BLOWN WELTER.
HE JUST SUCKS IN HIS OPPONENTS TO COME IN WEIGHT DRAINED SO THAT HE CAN WIN.
HE IS THE BEST CHERRY PICKER AROUND.
Come November 14, you will all see. Unless Miguel is half-a-zombie from draining weight, he will polish the canvas with Pacquiao’s face. Why he accepted the catch-weight is beyond me. It is not like he needed a new car with air conditioning like David did.
People will say it is an excuse already for when Cotto loses. Na-ah. We will all see from the get go if he is weakened by making the silly catch weight. We will see if the real Cotto will show up, or like Oscar, he would be a shell of his healthy self.
Almost everybody said ODLH was too big for Pacquiao. Heck, I did too! There were legitimate concerns about Manny’s well-being too. But he annihilated Oscar. Now, a lot of people did not detach their earlier assessment from what transpired. Truth be told, it was not a case of underestimating Pacquiao. Almost everybody overestimated Dela Hoya. Pacquiao did not do anything different. Okay, he threw his right a little more than usual. That was not a surprise, it was so comfortable for him. Anybody could have had a field day with Oscar’s face that night. Even Buboy.
Pacquiao was able to throw his right because there was no danger of being hit back. Dela Hoya looked exhausted right after the first minute. Going down in weight at his age did him in. Impressive win for Pacquiao? Nope. Far from it. Well, like I said, if you did not detach yourself from your earlier assessment, you will never see that it was not the Oscar we expected. It was an empty victory, beating a dehydrated old has-been. But if you did not detach yourself from your earlier assessment… okay, on to Hatton.
Almost everybody bought the hype that Hatton was bigger. Really? Didn’t they show the Tale of the Tapes? How bigger was Hatton than Pacquiao? Now, most pro-Pacquiao would argue along the lines of “he-started-at-106″. So? He was an undernourished small boy when he started, what’s that got to do with the current weight he fights in? He was more fit than Hatton at the time of the fight. It was not like they had to drip 20 gallons of electrolyte solution through his veins to make the weight. So, if you scratch out all the baloney about Ricky being “naturally” bigger, everything then amounts to even, physique-wise. Heck, even give the edge to Pacquiao. (Why did they say “naturally” anyway? As opposed to what? “artificially”? “synthetically”?)
Now, who has Ricky beaten? Really? Who bought Ricky’s improved-defense? I did not. If I did I would admit it like I admitted overestimating Oscar. Who considered beating the fly-swatter Malignaggi a major feat? I did not. Most Pacmaniacs did. Any half-decent journey man can walk right through those powder-puff taps from Paulie. Who bought the hype that he is the king at 140? I did not. Most Pacmaniacs did. Again, if you saw through all the bs and did not psyche yourself that Hatton was “naturally” bigger…? Hatton is overrated. Marquez or Valero or a dozen more contenders can do the same to Hatton like Manny did.
I don’t even want to talk (write) about David Diaz. The guy was a walking punching bag, as courageous as he lacks skills, speed and pride. Yeah, I said it — he lacks the fighter’s pride. He turned into a Pacnuhugger as soon as the ringside white robes brought the consciousness back to his ar$e. Team Pacquaio did a masterful cherry-picking job. Why did they not pick Juan Diaz, for one?
Pacquiao’s last three fights were all non-challenge — against a zombie, an overrated beer-drinking comedian, and a snail. They brought Pac huge recognition, the hype machine proved to be an efficient rig, one rewarding gig for Arum and HBO. They were nothing but a product of Arum’s promotional genius. Genius, I said, because it is not easy seeing through the cloak. Some people can see through it.
Mr. Perez, if Cotto accepts the contract to fight Pacquiao at a specific catch weight, it will be his decision. I believe it is disrespectful to Cotto to downplay his boxing abilities considering his record. You are already making excuses for him for a fight which can go either way. We would surely be interested on what Cotto thinks about your article. Just in case you haven’t noticed, everybody is after the “Pacman” and he can very well choose whoever he wants. By the way, Kobe Bryant and Pacquiao will be in LA for a Nike photoshoot. Don’t you wish you have a favorite fighter with his own Nike shoe brand?
manny is the most exciting fighter to watch and the only guy worth to spend money on payper view!
I think you’re forgetting that Cotto lost to Margarito because Margarito has concrete in his knuckles. And still he didn’t knock him out even though he cheated.
I think that this take om mannys opponents is quite interesting as i can see his point about all of mannys opponents being weight drained or ‘weak’
If Cotto is struggling to make 147 then to make a catch weight at 143ish would drain the shit out of him, also he hasnt looked brilliant in his last couple of fights.
I think a better more real test would definetly be sugar shane as he looked awsome against margarito.
I bet that old dog would have a few tricks up his sleeve for mr paquiao!
batangueno is not a fan of JMM, he’s among the member of el federacion de baklita 2009 in which Perez is the presidenta!!!
Margarito’s boxing career is over Mr. Perez, the suspension against him is a big BANG to his face more than the beating he made to Cotto!
When he beat Hatton at 140 it was brilliant, amazing and very very impressive.
Hatton was seen as top dog at 140 and Pacman blew him away it was clear and clinical.
If he beats Cotto at 147 its another statement about how hes that good he can walk into 147, take on and defeat a big name top Welterweight world champion. Even if he struggles it will be a huge achievment and another huge step for the clear P4P king of world boxiing.
He cant make any real statement at 144 or 143. Whats 143 classed as weight wise? Whats 144 classed as weight wise?
It will be a great fight between 2 great fighters but the meaning in terms of Pacman moving up the weights will be ZERO.
wat weight did pacquiao start at???u idiot.
Cotto should refuse the catchweight. The money i dont give 2 shits about, thats up to him, 35% will be a nice amount of money and the fight will do Cotto lots of good if he wins.
But its gotta be at 147.
If Pacman beats him at a catchweight what the hell is that saying and what does it prove?
It doesnt mean he will of beaten the proper Cotto and it means nothing about his standing in the Welterweight division.
I really hate these catchweights, yeah they match up some great fighters and great fights but it doesnt really answer or prove anytihng about your standing in any division cuz the fight was outside any weight class boundrays.
to: ewankosainyo>> why don’t you go home and eat your burger with your lola! after manny, i think my lolo and cotto will be a good fight watch it soon its the best fight ever in the history of boxing! don’t forget lolo vs. cotto no weight draining! see yah!
whoever wins (manny or cotto) they will not share their winnings to us. You know their are lucky we’re subscribing for them to watch we’re spending our own money!!! so, just shut up our mouth arguing with this crazy boxing, dela hoya was drained, hatton was drained mentioned also that 140 is the best weight for him etc. why don’t you watch their 24/7 they are 100% ready for the fight bragging they can ko manny see what happened??? they been beaten by manny!! whatever the fight is manny vs cotto, fm vs. jmm just watch and enjoy at the end “we” the fans are the losers arguing silly words with our own favourite boxers. come onnnnnnn!!!
If Pac fought Oscar at 147 why not Cotto? Is he afraid of Cotto? If you wanna fight the Welterweight champ than fight him at welterweight.Thats common sense. Why the advantage? If Pac destroyed Delahoya and it was a valid victory, Why the catch weight? Boxing is getting so bias its not even funny. Pac should fight at 147 and if he beats Cotto leave no excuses for his win.
What i struggling with the Pacman is this constant need for fighters come come down to his weigh. Is does give him a big advantage as it drains the competition. The past fighters he has beaten easily may not have been so easy if the weight drop was not required. So it is difficult to determin how good he actually is. Hatton was simply not prepared and paid the price. Cotto has great all round skills and power. He will mix it with pacman but will the weight drop drain another good fighter and give pac an easy ride again. We will see!!!!
nah! cotto will set pacman up with the jab as he did the quicker mosley but knock packman out instead!!i cant wait till this fight so cotto could shut down all the critics.
bantangueno – by any chance a marquez fan!
if williams were to fight pacquaio you could reverse the argument being as though williams stature he should really be fighting middleweights. nothing against williams though hes a great fighter but he should fight mosley as theres no one for them both too fight. pacquaio will beat cotto and then fight the winner of the marquez/mayweather then everyone will find out how good he is.
probably be pacman/mayweather although i hope not as ive put a crazy 100 on marquez
its simple – if a fighter agrees to a fight at catch weight and gets kod he cant complain because if he thought he was gonna struggle to make weight and not be at his best he shouldnt have agreed to the weight
“I can’t blame Pacquiao for not fighting the arguably more qualified Shane Mosley and Paul Williams instead. After all, they haven’t been beaten in their last two or three fights, so this probably disqualifies them as an opponent for Pacquiao.”
Exactly! To be allowed to fight Pacquiao you gotta be one or more of the following: (1) a weight-drained walking zombie, (2) an overrated fighter who comes in chin first, (3) a paper champion who is the weakest belt-holder in his division, (4) a has-been with a big name and big ego who doesn’t know when to hang up his gloves. And when you are none of the above, you gotta be willing to accept a ridiculous purse split on Pac’s favor.
Hey Mr Perez? What Weight is your lover boy JMM vs Floyd at? POint made…Dam bias psycho.
Why they allways say that Mosley is the best welter in the world. Anybody that knows boxing know that Cotto clearly beat Mosley and he lost agains Margarito because of that sustence that Margarito have. Mosley beat Margarito without that sustance. Mosley is old, for the good of boxing he should fight Williams so he be force to retired.
Destroyed by PLASTER HANDS! You love manny so much you stalker ass its kinda creepy you should go outside more you idiot and learn how to write in the mean time you joke. Go kiss you plaster hands posters and know your mexican is a cheater. You must live a lonely sad life.