Is Manny Pacquiao Getting in Over His Head Against Cotto?
June 27th, 2009
By Eric Torres: OK boxing fans, Am the voice of reason? Am I the only true boxing fan that feels that Manny Pacquiao is taking Miguel Cotto lightly? I have a feeling that we all will bare witness to one of the biggest upsets in boxing history Nov. 14th (although it would not be in my eye’s). Let me explain & compare both fighters objectively.
So who has Manny Pacquiao fought? True boxing fans have to strip down his SO CALLED coming out fights & realize that POSSIBLY the reason Manny has looked so great, has been because of the quality of opponents he has faced. Juan Manuel Marquez is the exception & the only boxer of late who has given Pacquiao his share of fits & Manny looked human at best when they have fought. Is that a coincidence? I believe it’s because Manny was Matched up against a Great fighter, not a washed up, club fighter, or a dehydrated boxer. This brings me to Miguel Cotto, who like Marquez is a great fighter & in my opinion an even greater one.
Lets start off with Zab “super’ Judah. Lets face it Zab Judah was at one point a high caliber boxer before the Mayweather fight & then was just not the same afterward, but needless to say had the power advantage & speed advantage over Miguel Cotto( which all boxing analyst stated) & we all know how devastating of a beating Miguel Cotto inflicted on Judah. Then we have Shane Mosley. This was a great boxing match in which, once again Cotto was the underdog & everyone had Mosley & his superior skills beating the young Cotto. This was a fantastic fight that went back & forth & ultimately one that Cotto won due to his amazing ability to box & adapt to one of the best boxers in the world. Mosley afterward in the ring acknowledged Cottos boxing skills & Called Cotto ” a Great young warrior”. That brings us to Antonio Margarito. Cotto showed his skill level for the first half of the fight & showed his ability to take a beating ( which is now under scrutiny due to Plastergate). Cotto has been accused of having a glass chin, but never was knocked out during that fight & would have kept on fighting if his corner did not stop the fight. Even with a majority of boxing analyst believing that he was being hit with plaster during the fight. Next Michael Jennings, who I admit was cherry picked to build Cotto’s confidence back up if it was hurt by the Margirito Fight. Cotto did what he was supposed to do, he destroyed jennings. Last & not least his recent fight with Joshua Clottey. In some eyes Cotto looked sub-par, In my eyes Cotto showed his natural ability to use his boxing skills against Clottey during this fight. Cotto fought with one eye from round 3 on & did not throw in the towel when he knew they where up. Cotto did the exact opposite, he fought through adversity, did just enough to keep Clottey at bay , win the fight ( I had it 7-5 Cotto) & showed his heart & how much of a warrior he is in the process.
What does all of this mean about Cotto vs Pacquiao? Its means Pacquaio is biting off more than he can chew. If Pacquiao or any of the Cotto doubters believe Cotto is going to be blown out of the ring when they meet in the proposed Nov. 14th showdown, I think you should brace yourself for a big surprise. I believe Pacquiao is letting Cotto’s recent performance against Clottey get to his head without looking at Cotto’s Body of work since he entered the welterweight division. Cotto fought one of the STRONGEST opponents he has faced & one that is stronger than any fighter Manny has ever fought in Clottey, he also did it with one eye. Cotto has never been knocked out against some of the stiffest & biggest welterweights in the world. We also Know Pacquiao is not as big as the true welterweights that have tried to knock Cotto out. So why would the doubters believe Manny is going to do it to Cotto? I know the doubters are going to say that Manny’s speed and power will destroy Cotto, I say to those doubters if it hasn’t been done with TRUE WELTERWEIGHTS then good luck to Pacquiao because he is going to need it against Cotto.
My prediction: Cotto will be much quicker than Pacquiao expects, as a lot of Cotto’s opponents realize once they step into the ring. Pacquaio will of course have his moments where he looks much faster. Pacquiao may even buzz Cotto & I feel this will be his unraveling. I feel Pacquiao will build a sense of false hope & try to engage Cotto head on just as he has in the past against Juan Manuel Marquez. In doing so he leaves himself open to Cotto & one of his vicious hooks. Manny has been rocked in this approach before & will do so again. Cotto has been in against some of the fastest & strongest opponents in the world. If they have not been able to knock Cotto out Pacquiao surely will not in my eyes. This is why I feel Manny Pacquiao is getting in over his head. Cotto by 11th round knockout in one of the biggest upsets in recent years.
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DLH was fighting at 154 and Pac at 130 plus 1 fight at 135. Did you expect him to jump 3 divisions up? They fought at a catchweight which was the WW division. It was 1 division lower for DLH and 2 divisions higher for Pac.
Hatton just beat Mallignaggi, with style. He was slicker and boxed better because of the new trainer in Sr. He was fighting at his best division, where he never lost a fight.
It’s easy to talk about these fighters as shot and drained especially the way Pac made it look easy. Not saying they were at their primes, they were past it but certainly not shot.
Cotto demanded the fight to be at 145lbs, he got it. I too believe that he is a much harder opponent who is/probably still prime. Even at 145lbs, Cotto still have the advantage as he may end up weighing 10-14 lbs heavier than Pac. This is not as easy as majority predicts it to be.
With or without the belt, A win by either fighter deserves full credit and does not deserve biased commentary.
Judging from what it seems there is no doubt that this would be a great match. Both fighters have power u can attest to that with their previous fights. What i can see here its no whos the bigger and and stronger, its more on how delivering or executing the most punches. We know that cotto fades at round 6 onwards but cotto has good defense on the early rounds than when i think he should finish pacman. Manny ha tremendous speed and he could KO Cotto in the early or late rounds. Even you have accuracy its hard to hit a fast moving target.
Thank You Eric Torres. That was a excellent article and for schooling all these Pac bandwagoners with fact and realistic boxing knowledge.
If Manny wants to fight at 154lbs, then he needs to fight at 154lbs. Not bring the bigger fighters down to his weight while he’s still 140lbs strong. Its easier to keep your strength when you gain than drop weight
MANNY COULD BE WIN AGANST COTTO OR ANY TOP IN WELTERWEIGHT, BECAUSE MANNY HAS AN EXTRA POWER THAN ORDINARY PEOPLE ..ARE YOU ALL BLIND? … EVEN 147..I DONT BELIEVE DELA HOYA LOSED WITH DEHYDRATED, THE BOXERS AFTER MEASURING THIER WEIGHT THEY CAN INCREASE THEIR WEIGHT WITH IN 24 HOURS A MINUTE AS WHAT WEIGHT THEY WANT.. I DONT BELEIVE DELA HOYA FOUGHT BELOW 150 DURING THAT FIGHT..
Kel, I must admit I agree with you. I know you know boxing but you must understand so do people like me. I have never met you but I love sharing ideas and philosophies about boxing. I trained at school when I was young, had great speed and sneaky power but I quit.
Why? I had no chin and it took great dedictation and lonely hours to get to the top. I knew I was not going to great so I moved on. But I will always love the sport and follow it. My brother actually did some amateur boxing in Canada. He had a perfect record 0 wins 2 losses.
He was a brawler and gave and took shots. His face and nose were busted after each fight. He quickly moved to the record industry where he is relatively successful.
Everyone is not Manny, Ali, Leonard or Duran. But if you know you are not great or will not be not dedicated go on to something else. I am a very successful business manager but have the greatest respect for boxers. They are very brave men but like anything else, we have to do what we are good at and when our time comes move on. Have a drink on me!
fights he should take
miguel cotto
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hey JCV,
your telling us we are hysterical fans? come on! we are not the one underestimating cotto. you are the one underestimating pacquiao.
if i don’t think anymore. where are you preferring your facts by the way? it’s just your hinch!
no one can predict the end of the fight! we are just saying that Manny for us just have the better chance as Wayne LOrd, shaundt,Matthew porter, nepster and others. Nepster is right your are a pac hater. not even a boxing fan. tsk! tsk!
also i predict pacquaio by ko round 3
A few things to add.
1 – are we forgetting he beat morrales and barrera twice (both boxers far superior to cotto and hatton and probably de la hoya as well.
2 – although i admire cotto, hes a warrior and will give 100% he will still get beat. you say paquaio will underestimate cottos speed, maybe but cotto will certainly underestimate pacquaios power.
3 – both men are of practically identical stature, cotto being slightly bulkier so no excuses there
and lastly why are people complaining about top fighters fighting each other and making excuses for fighters all the time. Boxing = 2 men same weight and one man wins nuff said
Apologies for typos….
I think it would be crazy to doubt Pacman at the moment. Cotto did well against Clottey considering the cut, but his hands are not particularly fast and i see Pac moving in and out comfortably all night. Cotto is a big guy though and i do not see pac knocking him out but outworking him. sorry to the Hatotn Haters but he was at the top of 140lbs for for years and was a vicious fighter, Pac deserves more credit but Ricky was poorer than usual on the night. Roach studied ricky for months, Maweather Senior studied what fast food he could get before training and tried his best to get camera time. Pac execute the plan perfectly, hatton never had one. Pac by UD.
3 stars and a glove
It’s obvious, you are no thinking any more, all your comments stay on “hysterical fan” level and like all of them, once again you are underestimate Cotto’s abilities.
This fight it’s gone be a war and both fighter are gone be heated hard, very hard. Let’s be serious It’s not a Hanna-Barbera Story.
when was pacman KO’d? please answer boxing experts…
i am talking to you JCV…
if i remember that was… wait… 6-7 years ago? hehe!
that was way far from what he is right now. he fights just like hatton before.
by the way, Samson and Goliath was meant to be the title. Because Samson was underestimated that he don’t have enough strength to fight when they cut his hair off like you pac haters underestimating Pacquiao. ang Cotto for Goliath. hehe! what is he best describe for? BIG! that’s all.
SPEED KILLS!!! if you can’t see what hit you. BAM!!!
i like paquiao but cotto can fight and hits hard cotto by knock out cottos to big
If any body doubt about the fans interest on this fight, watch the number of comments we already have. this is number 95
November: Manny Paquiao vs Miguel Angel Cotto WAR!
Main Entry: FAN
Function: NOUN
Etymology: probably short for fanatic
1 : an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport) usually as a spectator
2 : an ardent admirer or enthusiast (as of a celebrity or a pursuit)
I think your name is very descriptive, as your comments
I think the only way MIguel Cotto will win this fight is by being a counter puncher. I just watched some of his fights in YouTube and I can say that he is not a counter puncher.
The problem with fighting Manny Pacquiao is that he is a relentless fighter. He will not brawl you but he will punch you in every corner. He goes sideways, straight and even backing to trap his opponents of following him.
I predict that Manny will win by 11th round TKO. Miguel gets tired easily, evident with his fight with Margarito and Clottey.
I will try to put some money for Manny because I’m confident enough that he will win. Anyone who chooses Miguel as the fighter who will win this bout, then wage your money.
JVC: I beg to differ. Manny has not called out a single welter. They are the ones who keep calling down to him. I must again ask the question, why do these guys not pick on guys their size or look to test themselves against 154 lbs? Nepster says it…$ loads of $.
Manny is the cash cow because not only is he an exciting fighter but he can take a decent punch & is not scared to take few. He will not outright slug but he will mix it up a bit. That may be risky against a bomber like Cotto and that is why the fight is highly anticipated.
Compare Mayweather vs Marquez. What do you expect in that fight but a lopsided safety 1st approach by PBF. Marquez will keep trying like a warrior but PBF is too big & strong. He will eat too many punches to get inside. He will get chopped up in small bits as PBF pitter pats & runs.
What about a fight PBF & Spinks? ZZZZZ! Exactly! I am already falling asleep. No one wants to see that. Cotto Spinks at 154 might be better cause Cotto will be chasing him but no one expects to see a tough battle so no interest either.
That is why they all are looking down to Manny. Like I said, Manny should avoid them at 147 not cause he is scared but cause he has has more than maxed at 140.
Oscar beat a lot of great fighters but they were all coming up to fight him. The only one who came up and won was Mosley. And when Oscar went up to chase B-hop he got killed. It is hard to go up & win if you are not a Leonard, Robinson, Whitaker or Super Roy. Or unless you fight the weakest of the 50 or more champions in a higher class.
To be great, you must be supremely confident with a huge ego. Like Super Roy who came back down to shut up Tarver, Manny keeps moving up to shut up critics and prove himself. But eventually he will bit off too much. He is too brave for his own good. He can clean out the 140 lb class easily. Then as he gets older e could make that final jump to 147 and be naturally stronger.
One fight I am demanding is against Marquez. I am sure that Manny can KO him now. Manny ahs learned a lot and is mentally much tougher. If he gets him down again he will not catch a brain cramp & let him off again. Manny smells blood now. Anyone he gets down will get KTFO.
I know no matter who Manny chooses critics will say he ducked someone. He can’t win cuz he wants Floyd but Floyd chose Marquez in a fight no one wants to even talk about not to mention pay to watch. What was Floyd thinking? Oh, I know! Heard him on TV screaming and getting angry, saying he is the cash cow. How delusional can he get?
Hey Realbox – okay…point made…point taken. But Eric Morales, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Juan Manuel Marquez isn’t a bad group of guys to face. I agree, that he COULD have faced the Baby Bull at 135lbs, and JMM did man up and face Casamayor, but you could also make the case that Casamayor was past his prime a while back. Juan Diaz is also a light hitting lightweight…what David Diaz lacks in speed, Juan Diaz lacks in power. I don’t think Juan Diaz is all that much better than David…but I’ll give it to you if you think that David Diaz was cherry picked for Manny Pacquiao. However, I don’t think that Pac cherry picked ODLH, was ODLH was the one who asked Pac of a fight and so did Hatton.
OK LETS BE REAL HERE PACMAN HAS BEEN STAGGERED HURT AND KNOCKOUT B4 BY WEAKER FIGHTERS IF COTTO STARTS OFF JABING WITH HIS HANDS UP COUNTERS PAC PUNCHES AND DOUBLES UP ON THE LEFT HOOK TO THE HEAD AND BODY LIKE HER DOES WITH PRESSURE AND ROUGH PACMAN UP MAKE NO MISTAKE HE WILL KNOCK PACMAN OUT!!! PACMAN DSNT HIT AS HARD AS ZABS UPPERCUT AS CLOTTEYS RIGHT HAND AS MARGARITOS PLASTER GLOVES AND AS SHANE IF COTTO TOOK ALL THAT AND STILL DINT GO DOWN THEN PACMAN HAS A PROBLEM IF HE HITS COTTO AND NUTTIN HAPPENS.. AND HE HAS BEEN KNOCKOUT B4 WITH BODY SHOTS TWICE AND HAS 3 LOSSES WHICH MEANS HE CAN BE BEAT WHEN COTTO LANDS JUST ONE SHOT CUZ HE WILL CUZ EVERYONE IN BOXING GETS HIT PACMAN WILL STAGGER AND BEGIN TO RUN ONCE HE FEELS COTTOS POWER AND PRESSURE LIKE A BULL THIS IS A MAN WHO PPL TALK SH!T AND SAY SUSPECT CHIN BUT HAS YET TO GO DOWN AGAINST THE HARDEST PUNCHERS EVEN WITH ONE EYE!!! AND WITH PLASTER!!! CMON GIVE HIM CREDIT U GUYS GIVE PACMAN CREDIT HAS 3 LOSSES 2 DRAWS AND BEEN BEAT B4 BY SMALLER GUYS IMAGINE A WIDE BULL WHO BRAKES RIBS AND INTERNAL ORAGANS 4 FUN!!! AND HIS HANDS R FASTER THAN PLL THINK THEY UNDERESTIMATE HIM SAY HE IS SLOW AND CRAP BUT WHEN HE UNLEASHES HIS PUNCHES THERRE LIKE SHIT WERE DID THAT COME FROM AND DNT KNW WAT TO DO… I SAY COTTO BY 8TH AND ROACH AND PACMANS TEAM R UNDERESTIMATING COTTO TALKING SAY HE SLOW AND WEAK CHIN THEY WILL SEE WHEN THAT DAY COMES THEY WILL NEED PLAN A B C D AND A DR AFTER HIS RIBS GET BROKEN AND HIS CHEEK BONES GET CRUSHED BY A NUMBER OF LEFT HOOKS COTTO IS NOT HATTON OR THESE LIL 125 OR 135 POUNDERS COTTO WEIGHS 165 AND HAS BEEN IN WARS WITH MUCH BIGGER AND STRONGER AND FASTER GUYS CMON STOP HATING ON HIM WAYNE LORD AND 3 GLOVES AND A STAR HAHA AND WHOEVER ELSE HATES ON HIM PACMAN IS NOT GOD NOR THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST HE CAN BE BEAT AND WILL BE BEAT!!!
Mayweather who? Just a joke.
@Nepster: Sure. I, for one, agree, this is going to be a great fight and more exciting than FMJ and JMM.
Hey Nepster, i didn’t say he ducked him before this fight in particular, he ducked him in the 130 division when he was having promotional problems finding a big fight.
instead he took on David Díaz, who if you look is not impressive AT ALL in any of his fights, talk about a cherry pick!.
And I was just answering to gloria who asks to line them all up.
True Nepster. I love watching both fighters but i am puerto rican so naturally i will be rooting for Cotto. I have a lot of respect for manny the boxer and the person and i was the only one rooting for him against Delahoya in a packed bar and i proved them all wrong.Whoever wins this fight at least in my book will have all the respect in the world. NO EXCUSES AFTER THE FIGHT! May the better man win.
JCV – it’s simple, you have Pac haters who are giving Pac grief about fighting Cotto, saying he’s shot, or he’s going to be weight drained and blah blah blah just to have excuses and you have Cotto haters who think that Cotto’s shot and blah blah blah…or you have Pacquiao fans who don’t dare say that Pacquiao might be in for a tough challenge.
Why can’t we all just agree this is going to be a great fight and and more exciting fight than FMJ and JMM?
And I hope, and pray for this fight, and I want to see Pacman, as you says tmoney: “pacman wont stop coming at him….” to see if he really will kill him.
If Manny try to force the fight and engage with Cotto that is gone be the end for Manny. I think Manny have to move, use lateral movements and avoid Cotto’s right hook, budy punches or his jab’s. (I also believe that’s imposible)
i’ve always read that kind of article u guys always doubted pacman’s ability and its seem u always come short hehehe will see with cotto ok!!go pacman!!
tmoney.
Definitively, you don’t know a lot of things of this sport, and you never have been on a ring in a boxing match. Any person who was acquainted with this sport know all the sacrifice and courage needed to be on a ring one single round.
It’s easy from the outside said that any fighter look laughable or ridiculous on a fight when you don’t know about it.
Not as laughable as Pacman vs. Baby Bull…When the baby bull gets cut, the fights over…and if Pac can cut baby bull, like he has his sparring partners, then the fights gets dangerous. Pac would get CRUCIFIED if he took on Baby Bull…imagine what all his critics would say about him ducking Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley.
I disagree that Pac will destroy Cotto, as he may have a suspect chin, but he’s got the heart of a lion. And if he could take 11 rounds of Margo-cheato beating on him with his hands of stone, or SSM for 12 rounds in a shoot out, then it’s going to be tough as well for Pac to hurt him, IMO.
pacman vs cotto is laughable… id ont know why people give so much respect to cotto… he looked terrible against clottey and pacman wont stop coming at him…. he will kill him…
Realbox – To say that Pacquiao ducked Juan Diaz is laughable. What is going to look better on MP’s legacy, Juan Diaz or Cotto? If he took the Juan Diaz fight, he would get criticized for taking on a pillow puncher…LOL. Tell me that’s not true Realbox. Tell me you wouldn’t criticize Pacquiao for taking on Juan Diaz instead of Mayweather, Cotto, or Mosley. Fact of the matter is, everyone around Pac’s division is calling him out…why? Because of the money of course.
If Freddie agrees with the fight and pins cotto on a catchweight…there aint no way manny will lose.freddie studies Manny’s every opponent. im sure they have spotted the chinks in cotto’s armor which manny can exploit.Besides, Freddie could’ve thought that here’s another guy who will underestimate the capabilities of Manny.
For Cotto to win,it is important that he submits to one fundamental…respect Manny. Respect Manny as the best P4P, respect his skills, respect his power. If Cotto signs up for the fight and think that he can roughshod mnny since he’s a naturally bigger man..then he really will be in for some rude awakening. I will notch this historical win for Manny.
I agree JCV. Cotto will land. Example Clottey has one of the strongest and tightest guards in boxing and still Cotto managed at times to overpower his way between his gloves,Mosley very fast and hard to hit still Cotto managed to time him efectively. I believe Cotto will force pacman to fight in retreat and pac has no reverse so i think it will be his downfall.
Jangcana:
For your question about if Cotto will be able to hit Manny in this fight, I think, he is gone hit him as a maniac. Cotto is a great fighter and his accuracy is one of the best at this moment in the sport.
Rather then make up excuses for cotto and slate manny’s opponents, why dont you just accept manny is a much better fighter.
do you have to slate manny everytime you people start typing, you really can be boring cunts.
Cotto has the power but the problem is, will he can hit manny, boxing is not how big and strong u are,
Its how u hit the opponent with out hitting u,.
Filipino’s are a great brawler and boxer at the same time, Manny is the best in the world right now,. so to his critics, eat your heart out…
Only one writer in this site believed that Cotto is weak and a shot fighter, that’s the way Mr. Manuel Perez described Cotto.
It is true that the fothcoming schedule fight of Manny Pacquiao is one of the best boxer in the welterweight today and Manny Pacquiao knew it!
If this fight pushed through it will the real test of Manny’s career as a boxer but I believe Pacman’s agility as an athlete because of his full focus and determination in every training he’s in.
God Bless You Always Manny Pacquiao!
This is the reason why pacman is the p4p king.. cuase he fights boxers that he’s not suppose to win.. bigger and at the own weight division.. WIN or LOOSE (NOT!).. Pacman will be always remembered as a true warrior…..”He’s a big warrior, I wouldnt wanna fight him” said the little boy.. “thats why no one will remember your name”said Achillis.. GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR FIGHTING A BIGGER opponent.!!!!!!!!!
I don’t think he is. Pacquiao obviously wants to get Cotto down to as low in weight as possible so Cotto would be drained come fight time. Cotto hasn’t impressed me recently. First off, he’s got a bad chin and been hurt many times before.
Secondly (and the one that i still don’t get), I’ve seen him dancing a lot recently. The old Cotto used to go forward and slug with his opponents and beat them into submission. He was dancing around the last 4 rounds against Clottey and I felt he gave away the fight by not engaging Clottey. With the bad judging I still don’t know how Cotto won that fight. I give Cotto props that he kept fighting on with that bad cut for 9 more rounds and all but people say Clottey gave the fight away, it was the opposite.
And third, and the one no one can argue, is he’s got stamina problems. I understand against Margarito when you got a guy coming non-stop and pounding at you for an entire fight, I expect you to slow down. He slowed down against Mosley to the point that he was dancing the last 3 rounds against him. Finally, he slowed down against Clottey. You could say the cut had an effect but when Cotto needed to smack on Clottey when he was against the ropes (i.e. 8th round), he didn’t pull the trigger. That’s because he was tired and he was running late in the fight for the same reason.
And the stamina problems is all at 147. I guarantee you it is not going to be any better at 144 or 145. Cotto’s best shot at winning this fight is if he goes back to the Cotto of old, that is getting after Pacquiao, roughing him up and overpowering him on the inside. If Cotto goes out and does what he’s been doing recently, the passive (newer, and the one I hate) Cotto, he’s going to get knocked out late in the fight when he get tired. Pacquiao can punch as well late in the fight as he did in the 1st round. Pacquiao is too fast for Cotto. Cotto will need to slug with Pacquiao to win. Honestly, I’m not all that excited for this fight at all. I’d rather see Mosley Pacquiao.
Wayne Lord:
Why don’t Welterweights Cotto come down and fight Manny at his real weight, which is under 135 lbs?
JCV answer:
Because Manny’s interest in the welterweight crown. That is the primary reason for this fight, without that, there’s no fight. Bob Arum, Manny and his team call Cotto for this fight, because they really believe that, in the whole welterweight panorama, Cotto is the better option and the easiest one. (as you already know, I think that is a mistake).
Hey Gloria, you should tell that to manny, maybe then he’ll stop running from his worst nightmare, Juan Manuel Marquez.
Keep saying stupid things like those, hell, he ducked every good boxer that called him out to go fight grandpa drained out fishnet stockings de la hoya.
Even Juan Diaz called him out!, guesss what? ran from that one too, they were trying to match him up wit Valero because he was another easy target, but they made the mistake of picking Cotto, i really don’t know why people keep saying he has a weak chin, i haven’t seen that in his fights.
Belowthebelt you make some great points and so do you Nepster. I like both boxers but Pacman is my No 1. with possibly Mosley 2 and Cotto 3. But I do not just pick my favourite fighter without analyzing the two boxers’ strengths.
I agree with what you both have said and that is what I am worried about. Cotto has good speed, not like Manny’s. His stamina and chin are a bit suspect but can Manny dent it? Do not be misled by the Margarito fight. He never got hit with very clean shots and when he did, it was never a combination.
To land combos Manny will have to stand and fight which he should not early. Cotto will not run like he did vs Matgarito, he will be stalking and looking to land heavy body and head shots. Mosley stood with him and traded shots. Mosly’s body wok had Cotto worn down and when he switched to the head, you saw him running like he did against Margarito.
Mosley is bigger and stronger than Manny and was only down in one fight vs Forrest. That was due to a butt and then some shots when he was still groggy. Cotto’s shots did not worry him. If Manny can abosrb these shots but can still stick and move, taking Cotto into the deep waters (as B-Hop says), he has a chance.
I am just not sure if a one shot from Cotto won’t hurt him too badly. We’ll just have to wait and see and that’s what makes it so anticipated. Does anyone have the same anticipation for Mayweather against Marquez? I don’t!
line them up one at a time, from campbel,katsidis,diaz,bradley,guzman valero,mosley,darchinyan,sotto,mayweather,marquez and cotto. pacman will send them all for early retirement.good night.
BelowTheBelt- I ALSO saw Hatton buckle Pac’s knees, it was about two minutes into the second round. But it took me a couple of times watching the fight to really pick up on it. This is why I’m a little hesitant and I know this isn’t going to be an easy fight for Manny. But both have the heart of warriors. Power vs. Speed. Pac always proves me wrong as I wasn’t sure if he would be able to hurt Hatton, but he knocked him out with a punch that would have put a donkey to sleep.
I think this is a fair article…and I can agree with a lot of what has been said. But I don’t think that Pacquiao will under-estimate Cotto. I thought that he may do the same for Hatton after the DLH victory, but when this guy trains, he trains. He thinks everything true and he never lets his last victories get him overly confident. If Cotto is the underdog, it won’t be by much. Because this guy has the haert of steel and I think that he’s going to be the strongest and hardest opponent that Pacquiao has fought. However, if Pacquioa and Roach can come up with a good game plan, and Pac and get in, throw a good combination, then get out, I think he may be successful in beating Cotto. However, I don’t think it’s going to be as easy as a lot of the die hard Pac fans feel. I always worry, being a big Pac fan, that he’s going to get in over his head, but he’s always proven me wrong. This will be a great fight which can go either way. Roach also mentioned that Mosley and Cotto would be their most difficult challenge (more than Mayweather), this was before the Clottey fight, so I’m sure, if there won’t be a hint of over confidence in the Pac camp. Like I said, this has the making of a Fight of the Decade, and although I’m pulling for Pac, I’m not under-estimating the damage that Cotto can do. He’s also a great fighter with a huge heart and he should not be judged by his last fight with Clottey having only fought with one eye for 3/4 of the fight. I will say this though, is that I’m not sure if he’s recovered mentally after the Margo-Cheato loss, as there were times in the Clottey fight that he looked like he could finish off Clottey, but he was a little hesitant. Good luck to both, but I’m pulling for Pac!
Ok,ok … this proposed match up deserves a little more comment that just ‘Cotto will win’.
Fact is, I like Manny – he is one brave little dude who has shwon his has balls to go with his boxing ability.
However, the power of a full blown welter is something Manny has never taken in open competition. I saw Manny staggered in his Flyweight days and make no mistake when Cotto catches him, he will go down ! hey, even dumb arse Hatton caught Manny with a short left at the atrt of their 2nd round together and that momentarily staggered Pacman ( if you recall he clung on to Ricky tight for a few seconds ). Cotto really does have hurtful power and a really good turn of speed to go with it. What has made Manny so devastating is his own speed of punch and if he is to stand any chance against Cotto he must land early and hard. If, however, Manny doesn’t manage to use his speed effectively early and Cotto is as sharp and qucik as he can be, I actually see a very early stoppage of Pacman – being Ko’d quite badly !
Cotto stops Pacman !
…. not much else to say really.
I think this writer forgot to notice that Pacman is a smarter boxer since his last fight with JMM. He’s more technical as opposed to a brawler, he only brawls when he’s sure he’ll come out on top. That’s the difference that’s why he’s not being given credit for beating DLH and Hatton. It’s either he’s too good or DLH and Hatton are just plain bad. Go figure.
Dead-on, Bowie77, dead-on.
Chris I believe what the Writer was stating was not Manny’s accomplishments of the past, but rather his last few fights. What he is saying & it clearly states and I quote “Lets start with Manny Pacquiao & his last few fights since his coming out party”. That means his last fight with JMM up to Hatton. He is not taking away from Manny’s acomplishements from the past, but rather making a point on how it seems Manny is getting all of this attention as of LATE due to his recent performances. When it seems they should be looked at a little bit closer. I agree with that perspective. Its an opinion & one that should be looked at with an open mind, not a close minded one. He brings up valid points on both fighters.
On the other hand GREAT ARTICLE!
COTTO BY T.K.O. AFTER THE 7th ROUND! ROACH IS GONNA STOP THE FIGHT AFTER ALL THE PUNISHMENT PAC HAS TAKEN TO THAT POINT.ROACH WILL PROTECT HIS GOLDEN BOY.
I don’t think anyone have any doubt that Cotto is beatable, the question is Can Manny beat him? Yes his Speed is bread and butter against Cotto but can he be as affective with his speed going back? Cotto show after the Margarito fight that it takes a bigger and stronger man 11rds to stop him whether his gloves where loaded or not, then on the Clottey fight he show he could keep his calm and fight with one eye against the stronger Clottey, Many have show improvements on his foot work and Power, He stopped DHL but couldn’t knock him out when he had him standing in front of him doing nothing waiting to get knocked out, Hatton well there’s isn’t much we can say about Hatton cuz all we have seen is him losing his 2 biggest fights,When we have someone as strong as Margarito and Clottey go 11rd and 12rd with Cotto doesn’t make you Wonder, if it took them that long in the ring with Cotto when they are consider the strongest Welterweights YET what kind of Power does Manny have to stop Cotto? Can he out box him? of course not? Many is a brawler, Mosley couldn’t out box Cotto who has all the skills to do so and couldn’t!
Ah, this is exactly what this brilliant analysts said before the Hatton fight. You could have used find/replace “Hatton” with Cotto” and voila, this article.
The Clottey fight just shows that Cotto is beatable. I wouldnt be as confident if it had been Mosley/
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To Trevez, JCV, Shyon Kelly and all you people who are giving their opinions ont this fight. Why don’t Welterweights Cotto come down and fight Manny at his real weight, which is under 135 lbs? If they want his mythical P4P title or want to be the new cash cow, they have to meet the challenge and get under 135 even if itseems a physical nightmare.
Of course I am being sarcastic but when you folks say it, you are dead serious in wanting Manny to risk everything just to pleae your whim. What you folks are proposing is no different than what I have just said in jest. They are way bigger and stronger so for them to meet there has to be an equalizer. Horse racing has handicaps to allow certain horses to meet. This is no different.
I repeat, there are weight divisions for a reason but you people just don’t get it. The P4P title is just something that writers vote on. No one could ever expect the best fighters from 106-175 to ever beat those giants north of 200 lbs.
These type of matches are about bragging rights and to make $. Cotto, Mosley and all the welters want a piece of Pacman but yet Pacman haters want to see him go up to meet them. Everybody keeps calling him out and setting rules, which is like asking him to fight with one arm. Is that fair? No! But they they want an unfair advantage so he can lose and they can be happy.
Pacman can make fights at 140 and clean up cuz he is the cash cow. Cotto vs Margarito, Margarito vs Mosley & Cotto vs Clottey were decent match ups but will never generate that crosover interest like when Pacman fights. Marquez vs Floyd is dead died due to no interest.
If I was Manny I would stop trying to be fair and insist on these guys meeting me at 130 or go tell them to go away. To Cotto, I say go fight someone your size or better still, Williams at 154 or some catchweight under 154. Let’s see how you like that. On fight night he will be over 154 anyhow. But I guess because Williams will be 160-165 at the same time, it is not fair right?
Why have weight limits when fighters use it to their advantage to come in way over the agreed limit. due to safety issues the changed the weigh in from the day of the fight to 24 hrs before, but now it has become an advantage for a bigger guy against a smaller guy.
If a fighter is having problems at one weight, why not move up. In the older days there were only 8 classes so e.g. you went from 135 to 147, 147 to 160, 160 to 175 and over 175 was heaviy. I skipped the weights below 135 but I am focusing on the crap talk in this range this range.
I am sick of the Pacman bashing. I do not see other fighters willingly move up to fight bigger men. They are all looking to fight smaller men and get an easy payday. Are you listening Floyd? Meanwhile Pcman is looking to fulfill his legacy and people prefer to cut him up rather than give him his props for being brave. Is it because he is not American? As fans we should like skilled, action fighters who are also fearless. If they are also have cross over appeal and are exciting that would be even better. Geez I have just described Manny and Juan Manuel Lopez. Manny is now, Juan Manuel is the future!!!!!
Hatton fan what are you talking about, do you really think pacman will “destroy” cotto,mosley,mayweather and paul williams??
There is no chance at all, especially williams.
Nobody say williams is not a welter because he is but no one will fight him so he goes up in weight.
also i recon cotto could cause an early upset here,but if he doesnt get rid of manny within the first 6 manny will stop him,cotto starting to fade after 6-7 rounds,
i can see what ur saying ,he looked dreadful,low hands,hotheaded,wasnt thinking,it was a shite night,come fight night u can only have urself to blame ,but i honestly believe rickys game plan if he had one was seriously hindered by that idiot mayweather,rewind to when ricky fought eamon magee,,ricky showed eamon more respect than he showed pacman,given ricky struggles with southpaws if hed gone in with eamon magee the same he would have been knocked out along time ago,ricky whole career has relyed on him being superfit and super strong,now cue mayweather who stops ricky doing any of this(,rickys stopped all strength training,ie lifting weights,low weights),,and look what happened,he didnt look right at the weight in never mind on the night,too lean,his head wasnt init,bad training camp,bad night,needs to get billy graham back,
Cotto is a hell of a fighter against a supreme Pacquiao i tell you what i for one can not wait for this one i’m not sure about the statement that he has bitten off more than he can chew but this is definately the hardest fight Manny has taken on bar none.
I wonder what kind of silly excuse these writers will come up again when Pacquiao beats Cotto? Are they gonna use the “way past his prime” excuse again? or are they gonna say that before the fight, Cotto shot unicorns and rainbows out of his ass and couldn’t feel his anus during the fight night. Or maybe they’ll just say that Cotto was paid to lose the fight? hahahaha this article will just be another garbage when the fight comes.
Ok first of all, Cotto being faster than Pacquiao? Are you serious? like really dude are you serious? second, It doesn’t matter how big and strong the opponent is, but if you can’t hit what you can’t see…then you’re pretty much out of luck. Third, you’re forgetting about Freddie Roach. The dude studies the opponent and finds the weakness on the other boxer. Why do you think Manny had different tactics from his last three fights? This is what most people don’t realize about Manny. Manny can adjust in the ring, but other boxers don’t.
JCV
I agree with JVC. Pacquiao has been knocked out and defeated several times. I claim Cotto as being undefeated as I do not call the contest with “Hands of Cement Margarito” a fair contest. Mosley showed how good Margarito is without cement in his gloves.
I agree with JVC. Cotto will be at his best.
Pacquiao will go down to a real bad loss.
Cotto will be on his best for this one and that is not good for the Pacman.
I am Pacman’s big fan but I agree with the writer it would be a much tougher fight for him because Cotto proven how strong boxer he is. If the Pacman fights smart and uses his speed and don’t engage in a brawl in which he’s shown how much he improved under Roach he will either knock Cotto out in later rounds or a unanimous decision for him.If Cotto proves he’s quick enough in early rounds and lands big punches, it will be Cotto by ko till round six.
People like you make boxing seem like a sport for prideful, arrogant, prejudice people who turn off other people from watching the sport.
Why can’t you people have RESPECT for ALL fighters?!! Instead, you have your undereducated guesses on who would win since you have NEVER boxed in a real match much less gone through any REAL training like a boxer or any other sports player, which is why you blatantly disrespect fighters. Get in the ring and really learn what it takes to be a fighter. I’m sure even at the scrub level you fight at you’d gain some respect for all fighters.
This is the last article I read by a hater critic “writer” named Eric Torres.
Eric, you are an example of writer that doesn’t know what he is talking about. For you to say that Pacquiao has fought nobody during his run as P4P King is absurd. Why did you even write this article?
Who was the favorite to win the fight against De La Hoya? Who was the undisputed King in the junior welterweight division when he fought Hatton? You’re just like every other Pacquiao hater that writes an article about Pacquiao. Are you going to disagree with many boxing experts also that he is being considered one of the greatest fighters ever. Cotto will have to fight many more epic battles that Pacquiao to even be considered in the same category. Tell me are you a boxing expert and if so what are your credentials? Oh let me guess nothing. You have to give credit when credit is due. Out
The weigh-in the morning before the fight is an insult to human intelligence… so too is the catchweight issues!
I agree on the author’s point of view. The only way this is going to be a fair fight for both fighters is to have the weigh-in in the morning of the fight;in this way both Cotto and Pacquiao will look and weight the same. As it is now Cotto looks like a Middleweight disguising as a Welterweight and Pacquiao always looked like a Welterweight even when he fought as super Feather. Come on! Bring back the glory days of Leonard,Hearns and Duran when Welterweights were truly Welterweights!
I’m convince that a lot of people are underestimate Cotto’s abilities to box and fight. Manny will be surprise after 8 or 9 rounds throwing pounches and all he have seen Cotto in front of him fighting and serching for him.
if manny can take cotto’s body shot then it would be over for cotto.
Great Article, I completely agreed Cotto have fought bigger and stronger and even faster opposition that Pacquiao has, If you can name anyone that pacman have fought who is bigger and stronger then Mosley,Margarito and Clottey then Pacquiao have a chance but when he feels is the 7 round and he still have Cotto coming at him he’s going to realize that Cotto isn’t Hatton and Much less DLH, You have to understand that Cotto isn’t going to come at Pacquiao with his Chin on a plater or Stand in front of him thinking “Should I hit him?” like Oscar did! Cotto is going to make him pay everytime he jumps in with his Jab and his left hand down on his waist!
My Pick,Cotto by TKO,Roach will Stop the fight around the 10rd, this is going to be Cotto vs Judah all over again!
peace
well said , i just cant believe people are taking cotto lightly, its a big advantage though for cotto going in to the fight you can see that manny is wanting this fight based on cottos last fight. which you can tell he put on a lot of weight for the fight and looked a bit slower than usuall, but still won with 1 eye . I agree manny will realise how fast cotto can be on that night , and its lights out pacman! Cotto vs Mayweather 2010
welslad, your talking sense.
Jobbies,
One thing I noticed is that Cotto stepped it up a bit the moment he got cut. He started throwing bunches of punches. That right there made him vulnerable but it’s a good thing that Clottey wasn’t able to capitalize as much. When Cotto starts swinging, he gets a way from his defensive stance and leaves himself open. Manny is guilty of that as well. Whether it’s a cut or being down on points, Cotto starts swinging.
I really don’t think he dictated the fight in the sense that he is so much better than Clottey. I believe it’s more of a bad judgment call on Clottey’s part to not capitalize on Cotto’s cut. Clottey would’ve done much better if he actually boxed instead of trying to prove how tough he was by absorbing punches. I think that Clottey was thinking that he wouldn’t get respect if beat Cotto by taking out his eye. I think Clottey wanted to prove that he’s the better and stronger boxer to silence his critics.
I feel that Manny will pressure Cotto into swinging big so that he can expose him. I know that Manny will be throwing lots of punches that night. He’ll make Cotto be a defensive boxer and score points on his volume of punches. Then, when Cotto is down in points, he’ll start swinging more. And when he does, Manny’s going to try to hit him with the big shots.
This is why I brought up the stats. When Cotto was throwing his punches, that’s when Clottey hit him. Although there weren’t many punches thrown at him, Cotto was hit with shots when attacking Clottey. I really think that’s what Manny’s going to try to do.
pac will k.o.cotto in 1st.round. next fight is vlad klisctkho in catchweight 200 lbs. believe me.
people keep forgetting manny pac started as a fly weight and he batterd hatton and de la hoya.
Pac is the best thing to come out since the tyson days pure speed and power lets just enjoy watching the pound foe pound king and stop hate in on a legend peace.
weslad why dont u get a grip!!!! would u pay to watch a ricky hatton fight after that?
Although i think the article is just another dig at a great great boxer in pacquiao, i do believe this may be a step to far for manny. Cotto, will be the strongest and biggest fighter he has ever fought. One who is hard as nails, and can box too. He wont go into the fight like hatton either in terms of just rushing in like a madman.
For me i feel cotto could win this fight if it go’s ahead, and man i hope it does.
p.s brahma i agree with some of the stuff you say, but to bring up the clottey stats for me hides the fact cotto fought for 8 rounds with ne eye, and still managed to dictate the fight the majority of the time
2jabs,so in ur eyes to be world class u have to beat the pfp king ,and thats it u fall short ur an overrated bum,get a grib will u,stop posting shite,
kostya tszyu
carlos maussa
luis collazo
juan urango
jose luis castillo
juan lascano
paul mallignagge
last time i checked these guys were all world class until ricky took it from them,,
none of these guys are mugs,unlike urself,and ricky beat all of them,u cant be an overrated mug and have the fight record that hatton got,,,as for cotto,well didnt mallignagge give him a hard time,,who hatton hammered,
ur the type of person whos all over and up mannys arse until someone knocks him out then hel be an overrated bum aswel in ur eyes,people like u are bad for boxing,and u talk absolute garbage,
I really want Manny to lose just for the change, but i really don’t think anyone in welter is gonna knock him out…..he’s been in with bangers in the lower divisions and never even looked rocked…you can’t even bring his couple of defeats into it cause they were years ago…different fighter and different mentality back then….
Nice analisis, “The Brahma Bull”. But I think Cotto have this one in late rounds. He can box and move and he is an excellent counter pouncher. Cotto know how to use his hands and he is not slow at all.
Art:
I think you have wrong information about Cotto and how he faight.
I really don’t think Manny is underestimating Cotto. Cotto is considered one of the greatest boxers out there. I feel that Manny believes that he is now ready to mix it in with the big boys. After all his accomplishments, hard work, and experience in the ring, Manny feels that he is now on top with the greatest boxers out there. Like a true champ, Manny is trying to prove himself. He wants to fight Cotto, but he has to do it in a way that won’t take away too much from him. Manny normally fights at around 135-140. Cotto fights at 147. Manny knows that 147 is too much for him but he’s willing to move up to the weight that he can possibly reach. Manny is not asking Cotto to be weight drained. If Cotto weighs 144-145, he’ll balloon about 10-15 pounds come fight night. I hardly call that being weight drained.
This is going to be a great fight. Anyone who says that Manny isn’t ready for Cotto is insane. Anyone who says that Cotto is not ready for Manny is also insane. These two work just as hard as each other. They are definitely ready for each other. Manny has come a long way. Now, he’s going that extra mile to give fans what they want. You have to hand it to Manny. He’s making the move.
I’ll have to go with Manny on this fight. Cotto did well against Clottey but, according to stats, Clottey landed at a better percentage. The problem with Clottey is that he thought he was Margarito but faster. He tried absorbing Cotto’s hits. I can guarantee that Manny won’t be doing that but he’ll be ready to absorb some just in case. Manny will be faster and more precise than Clottey. Clottey isn’t a big puncher, according to his stats and commentators, but he was able to take the fight all the way. If Manny throws more punches, Cotto won’t be able to get off as much as he did against Clottey. If Manny can’t knock out Cotto, he’ll win by decisiion. I think Manny will come into the fight more prepared than he was against Hatton. Cotto’s not as easy to read as Hatton, therefore Manny will add more guns to his arsenal. Expect to see hooks, uppercuts, lots of jabs, and all that good stuff. Manny will bring out everything for this fight. I know he will because he knows it will be a war and this war won’t be won with just a push of a button.
delahoya would have beaten cotto but he got kod by pacman what makes u think cotto will ko pacman? cotto is to slow and has a weak chin, he will get kod in 6 or less
ah mr perez- so nice to see you!
The consensus is, this is definitley Mannys toughest test yet, no doubt about that, however, I think it is another shrewd match making by mr roach as in my opinion, Cotto is a safer bet then Mayweather or mosley, Perez’s comments just sum up that he lets his personal opinions over ride his boxing knowledge, ie, he does not like Manny for some strange reason…
I am going for a 11th round stoppage by Manny!
P.S. The bible talk about David and Goliat, Samson is another story. Sorry, 3 stars and a glove.
In this one David need to put the stone in the gloves, at Margarito’s stile, to beat Goliat.
I saw Manny frustrated, after 4 or 5 rounds and KO after 9.
I reckon cotto on points. Size was meant to be the main factor against Dela Hoya and Hatton, but, Hoya was shot and weight dead, and , Hatton never got a chance to impose his power and size as he was wide open.
Cotto wont be shot, weight dead or wide open. Size in this fight will trouble pac and wont be able to deal with it.
I give my blessing to this article. Personally I think Cotto will destroy the over-rated Pacquiao with a 4th round KO.
We’ll if Manny loses its an upset! if Cotto loses what’s the juice? nothing!
He’s being tested here. if some of you think that he has faught faded fighters and weight drained ones. why not compare it to Mayweather! He is not criticized at this state because he is not that popular anymore. If FMJ defeated Hatton in late rounds why say that Hatton handed his head on a plate to Manny on the 2nd round? And if ODLH is weight drained when FMJ went to a decsion while Pacman ended in a KO. then some claims here that FMJ is better than Pacman.why is Pacman’s name more soundly today? Because he had better and more memorable fights with exciting and surprising KOs than any other fighters whom claims that they are the real deal
I agree to all of you that Marquez or Mayweather is the real score. and i favor more on a Pacquiao-Marquez 3. but its NOT Manny’s decision. Its TOP RANK and BOB ARUM’s business. why do you keep on saying that Manny and his team cherry picks his opponents? After each fight Manny is being ask the same question. “who is next?” He may state a name but in the end he only says, “it depends on the promoters decision”.
Pacquiao vs cotto fight should be entitled SAMSON VS GOLIATH!
PEACE OUT!
just read the bible, you know how the story goes.
heyyyyy…. i guess if pacman rules again this fight in less than 6 rounds,U must throw ur pc and try to cook ur pancake. dont just write it, bet it on the line. so many pacman fans are willing to bet it with pacmans side. get it on with chavit singson,dear writer. so that like many other brits loss their houses and savings bank when hatton told them to empty your bank and put it with me. now many of them dont have their houses when the pacman sent hatton to wonderland.
when fight time comes, cotto will definitely weigh more than 147lbs, right? so this isn´t exactly a catchweight. asking for less than 2lbs a day before the actual fight isn´t that big. re-hydration will take care of it. be tough but be fair, guys.
Wath Paquiao vs Erick Morales 1 an you can see the future. Manny is fast, but I think he need a way more to beat Cotto.
To hit Cotto he have to go to the inside and that’s exactly it’s gone be his first mistake. Cotto is an master counterpouncher, he is fast, maybe not as Manny, but fast and his accuracy exceed excellence.
I saw Manny throwing all he gad and Cotto moving foward counter pounching him with jabs, budy pounches, left and right hooks and uppercuts. All that before Manny reaction. to The disillusion it’s going to emerge in Manny’s face and , I think, tha’s gone be THE END for him.
Cotto already says this fight represent the biggest on his carrier and that is no good for Manny. The 145 lb catch weight, go in favor of Cotto too, his gone be faster that ever.
so now, when he decided to fight cotto he is in way over his head? but, when he fought ODLH and hatton, he was cherry-picking? make up your mind, critics. either he is cherry-picking or picking apart good to great fighters. we might just as well enjoy pacman while he is still inside the ring because he is not getting any younger. with so many talks and debates raging about him, who has the guts to say that he isn´t that great?
I COMPLETLY AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE. TO ALL THE MANNY FANS GET READY CUZ PAC GOING TO LOSE.
People think that Cotto is de la hoya and ricky hatton but he’s not, sorry to tell everyone that. Manny pac can’t push him around, it will be the other way around. All Manny has is speed, thats it. Cotto is the better boxer, lets put it like this he is just good all around. Cotto’s jab will take Manny’s speed a way.
COTTO IN 11TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is thinking its going 2 be a stroll in the park for Pacquiao well 1 thing is for sure.. it is NOT going to be that way.
Miguel Cotto always fights the best and has fought much better fighters than Pacquiao has, the only good fighter Pacman fought in my eyes was Marquez and argubaly Marquez won both fights, I think Cotto will be a lot quicker and more powerfull than Pacquiao thinks and don’t forget the power Cotto does actually have e.g. left hook and body shots..if Manny gets caught by Cotto he will be in big trouble and same goes if he under estimates Cotto aswell. I’m going for a Cotto win but I wouldn’t say it’s an upset because Cotto is a world class fighter and is used to fighting the best.
Completely agree with this article, only i think Cotto will do him earlier.
Seeing how unhinged some fans are, i am thinking of a genious pay per click ad campain targeted at the philippines
I don’t think he is over his head in this one. It will be tough for him, but isn’t a challenging fight his detractors clamor for? It is true that Manny is really untested above 135, but you gotta admit, the way his fights with DD, ODLH and RH unfold the way they did partly because of Pacquiao’s ability too. It would be unfair not to give the guy props for those bouts. I am not putting my paycheck on the line for Manny, but he has more than a fair chance against Cotto.
2jabs step in the ring then talk smack
Let’s analyze what you have written. You sound just like another colleague on thi site who always quotes himself and “many other boxing expersts” by saying in your opinion and many others, Marquez beat Manny. Well, let me counter by saying that in my opinion Manny should have won the 1st fight. One judge admitted he made a mistake by scoring a rd 10-7 instead of 10-6.
Again, in my opinion and many fans and experts, Manny also won the 2nd fight. But who cares what you or me and our cohorts feel about the fight. They were very close and officially history will show that 1 was a draw and Manny won 2. Go jump off a bridge or something if you don’t like it.
You don’t hear Manny’s fans constantly quting experts, bitching about the draw when it was a fact the judge erred. Case closed let’s move on. We are men not babies. Look my brother and his buddies thought Barrera beat Marquez while my dada and I thought opposite. In close fights we see splits like that.
Do you see articles every week crying about that result? Why not? Cuze Manny is the one they want their boy to fight. Barrera is no longer big in any diviion. There are other razor close fights, e.g. many experts also thought Mosley beat Cotto but again do we see columnists bombarding us with their opinion on these fights each week? You and Perez sound like a stuck record or sore losers.
When a fight is so one-sided e.g. Holyfield vs Lewis 1 or Whittaker v Chavez where Whittaker & Lewis get robbed by a draw, then I can see some letters. But even then, no one writes about it every week. It gets stale. Move on!
You said that Judah & the Mosley were favourites vs Cottoand that Judah had the power edge! Well, not in boxing magazines I read.
You also said that Cotto beat Mosley due to his amzing ability to box and adapt etc. What fight were you watching? Mosley’s attack clearly had Cotto on the run at the end of the fight just like he was against Margarito, minus his dropping to one knee to save more punishment.
I predicted Clottey would win and I still think he would have won had this fight been anywhere but in New York or Puerto Rico. But it was close and I take my hat off for Cotto. I respect & like him as a warrior. I siad that may be the key to the fight and it was. despite blood flowing and his vision impaired he gave more than blood and I will move on. Clottey could have done more to instill his will so he should stop crying. Sure he might have hurt his leg. Ok so both guys had handicaps. The decision is done move on!
Regarding Oscar’s weight. Usually a fighter is weight drained when he has when he has problems reaching the 147 on the day of the weigh in. DLH said he reached 147 early to avoid that problem like most fighters. He wanted to feel good early so his body could adjust naturally. That was what his nutritionist advised. Why the hell are you & his apologists then crying?
Oscar was 1000% sure he would be too big,strong, have reach, tall and & strong. Manny was natural at 130 so he would have to come up 17 lbs which would slow him down, plus he would be hitting a much bigger man. Every expert agreed. Roach was the only one picking Manny, and he had to as his trainer. Every Manny fan felt he was biting off too much but like me, were hoping big time.
I won’t even go into the other stuff you have written because like mine, it is just an opinion. I will however say that despite being one of the biggest Manny fans, I too think 147 is too much for him. I feel Cotto is too powerful.
But I know Cotto has a suspect chin, especially as the fight goes on because his stamina is a big ? mark. Can Manny exploit these flaws? Can Manny withstand his body attack, which I think caused him the fight against Margarito?
Manny has not tastedheavy shots beyond 130. He beat Diaz like a drum. He sped past Oscar & just demolished Hatton with nothing in return. Can he speed past Cotto and take his body attack?
These are things to be answered in the ring. They both have tremendous heart. Manny’s chin was good at 130 but I am not sure about above 140. in his early days he was beaten by body shots. That is Cotto’s strength. If Manny loses at this weight at least he shows his willingness to fight tough guys. I feel he cn find a way to win but if I had to bet, reluctantly it would be on Cotto.
Two final questions. If Cotto beats Manny to the body will experts say he was underweight, too small and his body was too weak etc? If Manny wins, will they say Cotto was a nobody? He was weight drained, over trained or was a nobody?
I am sure people will never accept what they see with their own eyes, especially if ther man loses
dont think pacman is way in over his head. hes proved he can move up and fight good fighters and do fine and most importantly he keeps improving. if cotto is as slow as he looked against clottey (maybe he put on too much weight after the weigh in)
then i think pacman could win.if cotto is fine then pacman with a good gameplan could still win plus manny is better conditioned athlete, guess we wont know till november….BTW is this writer manuel perez in disguise!
agree with this. pac mans recent wins have been greatly over hyped. I feel cotto will be too big at the weight, cotto will enter the ring a lot lot bigger than hatton or de la hoya did. However I don’t feel you need to disrespect what hatton has achieved and call him a club level fighter when making this point. A club level fighter hatton is not, otherwise he would not achieved all he has.
hmmm too manny boxing expert in this site. mp is the best one of them lot. i do love reading the comments. when the fights happen. the next day comment will be a great read. gl guys keep it up
There is no doubt, this is a much tougher task for Manny then DLH JMM or Hatton.
But lets get one thing straight, DLH had not come down to 147 for 7 years, not 10 years! so do your research first.
Also, Manny has beaten Morales,Barrera & JMM all massive talents!
You can criticise Manny all you like but he has gone up 7 weight classes, that is the equivelent of Cotto going up to light heavy weight!
Manny will not be able to blast thru Cotto like he did DLH & Hatton that is for sure, and he will also feel Cottos shots more then he did DLH & Hatton, BUT, Manny just looks unstoppable at the moment, he is like a fine wine, getting better and better with age, learning new skills and his power has improved greatly in the last couple of years.
If Cotto is to beat Manny he needs to lure him in to a slug fest, use his strength, rough him up on the ropes and whip those body shots in to weaken him, he will have to do it inside 7 rounds, if not, I see Manny edging it and possibly stopping Cotto late on, around the 11th round..
I CANT WAIT 4 THIS FIGHT!!!!I COMPLETLY AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE, ONLY I HAVE COTTO BY K.O IN THE 9TH!
after the jmm2 fight, they always say that 135 is a different territory and manny couldnt absorb punches from these guys. then came dela hoya. then ricky and the others said that ricky will be the biggest and strongest ever opponent of manny. now, its cotto. may i know who are next?
i believe if cotto will come in speedier than what manny expects then cotto will also surely be amazed and confused as to how really fast manny is. ask his previous opponents and they will all say that they didnt see where the punches are coming from. diaz thought roach was with manny in the ring. dela hoya quit on his stool blinded by “death by a thousand left”. hatton admitted that he didnt see the stormy punch that came from the pacific. i wonder what’s cotto’s postfight description of pacman’s punches? you know?
hatton fan….u dont know anything!!!!! ricky hatton is an over-rated bum, he might have won a world title but i dont consider him world class….did u watch that 24/7 show before the fight when he rambled on about bringing the p4p title to britain. what a complete joke he is
Hatton handed his chin on a plate to Pacquiao at the start of the fight.
If he hadnt, been atleast a little smart and defended himself and gone a few rounds wed of been able to see how Pacman coped with gettin hit by a big strong Lightwelterweight.
But we didnt see that, next we will see this fight not knowing how much power Pacman can take.
Im convinced hes quicker than Cotto, punches dam hard and is an amazing boxer worthy of his P4P crown. Im not convinced he can take the best shots of a Welterweight, especially one like Cotto.
If Cotto can promise to stick his chin out like Hatton did then thats fine we can use Pacmans last fight as a good example of whats guna happen this time. But im not sure hes guna do that for Pacman.
I accept the Hatton loss no problem, but id of liked to see how Manny took the power of Hatton.
My gut feeling is he wouldnt of took it too well and Cotto wont be quite so gung ho and easy to hit and will hit harder in return than Hatton would of done.
I honestly fought Hatton would have been too big and too powerful for Pacquiao, after that fight I could now see Pacquiao destroying anyone in any division lower than light middleweight. Although i am not completely ruling Cotto out because he does have a good chin and tremendous power but like I said after the Hatton fight Pacquiao just seems too be a superfast freight train with no intentions of derailing!
this will be a true test for manny at welterweight, de la hoya was well past his best when manny beat him and ricky hatton didnt have a clue what hit him
I agree with some of the things the writer wrote in his article. My only concern about his prediction is that “Miguel Cotto will win in 11th round via K.O.”
The problem with that prediction is Cotto is known to fade away if the fight goes more than 8th rounds. Cotto can K.O. Pacquiao if he will manage to engage him on a brawl.
I hope that this fight will come true, good luck to both fighters,
You predicted Cotto by 11 KO. I will predict it Pacquiao by round 5 KO. I guess no one will believe you that cotto is faster than pacquiao.