Haye vs. Vitali: What are David’s Chances Of Beating Klitschko?
June 7th, 2009
By Scott Gilfoid: David Haye must be hating life now that his bout with Wladimir Klitschko has gone down the drain. That’s got to hurt. But I think Haye is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks Vitali Klitschko is a good alternative for him. That seems like a good way of being knocked out if you ask me. The word is that Haye is looking for a potential fight with Wladimir’s big brother Viitali Klitschko for September if things go right.
Vitali has faced better punchers than Haye in the past, fighting Lennox Lewis and Corrie Sanders without getting knocked down. Haye’s only real chance of beating Vitali is by knocking him out somehow, but that isn’t going to happen in this lifetime. So, for me to even think of Haye winning a fight against Vitali, I have to see scenarios where Vitali has suffered a bad cut or some freakish injury to his back, shoulder or knee.
Stranger things have happened. Vitali has suffered serious injuries in the past to each of these areas of his body which has required surgery, so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility for that to happen. But that’s a crummy way of getting a win and kind of desperate sounding.
Still, that’s the only way I can see Haye winning a fight against him. I wonder whether Haye feels he even has a chance in this fight. I mean, Haye has got to know that he’s not in Vitali’s class, don’t you think? How can Haye even consider himself a good opponent for Vitali when he’s fought mostly cruiserweights in his career.
Haye got dropped in his fight with Monte Barrett last year and needed a lot of time to recover from one of his left hands to the head. Vitali punches much harder than Barrett, I hate to say and will be throwing some seriously hard shots if they do fight in September.
If you ask me, I think Haye needs to just do the right thing and start fighting the top contenders to work his way into a title shot rather than switching from one Klitschko to the other at the drop of a hat. I wouldn’t mind Haye fighting Vitali if he could prove that his won’t be a hopeless mismatch by Haye fighting two or three top 10 heavyweights and proving that he’s talented enough to beat them.
That’s why Haye should be doing instead of going after Vitali Klitschko without the fighting some good fighters before doing so.
At any rate, I don’t like Haye’s chances against Vitali and give him much less of chance at winning than I would if he were to be facing Wladimir.
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all that you can ask a boxer or any athlete is to show and try his best haye showed up but didnt try his best . but i see many of you brits still support him.I guess he will make a fool of the enclish again.with the effort given by haye .the english should beg lennox lewis to come back or fatten up carl froch I never seen either of them stop trying in a fight
I totally agree with the writer that Haye’s chance of beating Vitali Klitschko is almost zero. In fact, I think that there is a higher, but still very small probability, of his beating Wladimir. Vitali is as good a boxer as Wladimir, and he (Vitali) has a much better chin than his brother. Haye would have the lucky punch chance of beating Wladimir, but certainly, not Vitali, who has a solid chin. A good heavyweight puncher would possibly take out Wladimir with one shot, if that shot lands cleanly. On the other hand, Vitali withstood some clean shots from big punchers such as Sam Peter and Lennox Lewis.
Haye needs to act prudently and build a better heavyweight profile, before he can realistically think that he has a chance of dethroning Vitali.
Adam – What is “the bunch of sh*t” that Haye demanded??? You honestly speak aload of complete bollocks!! Bias Yank f*ck who hates brits for no reason… tit
nice article pink, just a shame the BRit basher cant learn from you. shame we cant get rid of him either
What Pink? Anybody that would call themselves “Pink” don’t have it all together. This guy sounds like he sits on the toilet to pee and otherwise does as he’s told.
Mr Pink,i cant improve on your comment,i’m only writing to say i completely agree.Shame on you Scott gillfoid and Manuel Perez,editors please take note.
I have written a few articles for this site over the last month or so as a way of combining my love of boxing with a fondness for writing. However, I must say that a lot of the stuff that is written on Boxing News 24 is biased rhetoric. I hoped that my articles would make people think about certain fights and fighters and that they would promote reasoned and liberal debate-and they did. I was extremely gratified by the responses to my writing and the thoughtful comments that many readers shared. Yet it seems some of the articles are merely tools with which to engender arguments and spew venomous comments about fighters from one particular country or another. It amazes me that some guys have the time to post numerous vitriolic reports about the same old fighters over and over again. Clearly respect and admiration for any fighter is a subjective thing yet surely we should all have some respect for anyone with guts enough to step into the ring and talent enough to propel them to the top. We do ourselves and the fighters themselves a disservice with blinkered and one eyed “analysis” that consistently fails to take into account the fact that boxing has always been and will always remain a sport where anyone is capable of upsetting the odds and confounding expectations. We should be sad that boxing has been denied a potentially great fight rather than launching personal broadsides on every fighter who rubs us up the wrong way, especially if that dislike is purely the result of their country of birth. I would like to think that my nationality does not shine through like a beacon in every piece that I write.
WOW.Do you hear David Haye’s attitude now.It’s totally changed 100%.Now he’s Mr Respectful.Wlad has shut Haye’s mouth without throwing a punch.Now thats a champ for you.
hahahahaha gilfoid you always know how to ruin an article with your anti brit ways.I agree that haye cant beat vitali yet but when you said that haye was dropped by barrett and needed a lot of time to recover from barrets left hand i was laughing my ass off.If you actually saw the fight you would see that haye yes was dropped but it was a flash knockdown and he wasnt hurt in the slightest.Barrett even had the cheek to hit haye with the left you were talking about when he was ON THE GROUND.Haye got up not hurt at all but had a none too amused look on his face and just a few seconds later had barrett on his ass and won the fight.But how could he have won the fight in that round if he was hurt significantly? As my username says you probably were molested by a brit , thats why you put ludicrous anti brit statements in your articles while you’re crying hsterically saying make the bad man stop…..make the bad man stop! hahahah
Actually I see Haye stand a better chance against Vitali than Wlad. Vitali is much slower than Wlad, which gives Haye a better chance of being elusive.
Even so, I dont see Haye winning
I hope so though.
David Haye will be muredered.Haye looses this fight in every way.But I suspect that Haye will demand a bunch of sht from Vitali,then when Vitali gives Haye what he wants,Haye will hurt his back, stub his toe or cut himself shaving some sht and will have to postpone the fight.
Gilfoid just can’t help but write an article where he bashes British boxing fans. in a round about way he did make decent points, Haye can’t beat Vitali being the main one.
But there is no need to bash the fans for supporting and dreaming. Gilfoid, like many of the Brit/Haye bashers don’t like a British fighter getting somewhere whilst their own brands are either pounded and done early in their careers or just to fat to go anywhere!!
On the Haye vs Vitali point, what Vitali has that Wlad doesn’t is the killer switch in his head, he can end a fight whenever he chooses and doesn’t need 5 rounds of left jabbing to do it. This means Haye, with his untested chin at Heavyweight, could quite possibly be brushed aside with relative ease.
Nob head maybe?
Vitali is stronger chinned that Vlad but then hes not so defencive and is guna be more open to Hayes shots.
I dont think Haye was guna beat Vlad, i dont see him beatin Vitali either but theres nothing wrong with ambition i dont know why you get your knickers in so much of a twist about it.
But 1 thing about the Klitchkos, they are gettin on a bit, they are slowing right down and ive not seen either of them face a quick big puncher like Haye for a long time. Its just slow lump after another for the last 7 or 8 years for them.
Scott what is ot with you and british fighters, you have nothing good to say about any of them. there is a word for people like you.
I think Haye has really next to no chance against Vitali.
Did he (Haye) get dropped by Monte Barratt? I don’t remember that.
In summary, I agree that Haye would lose but Scot – you are still a penis.
Haye has defo got the power to trouble anyone alive but with that chin hes guna get kayoed sooner or later i really dont see him beating either klitchko and ive always been a David Haye fan i hope he proves me wrong tho love him or hate him the guys entertaining in the ring and thats what the heavyweight divison needs
this is so true writer, haye is gonna get hammered by vitali if he takes this fight, which i hope he does!
It’ll be good for 2 reasons, these being, if haye wins every critic is gonna look stupid and have to eat thier words, but if he loses the big headed fool will look very silly indeed! either one of these scenarios would make me smile.
we all know haye got no real talent, not world class talent anyway, and if you say the guy is good you dont know your boxing….
Cutman,they ask for comments not an edwardian/elizabethan novel! Vitali would KO Haye early.-Quick short to the point comment,see?
I’m also a Haye fan. I agree with you Simon he needs to fight a top 10 heavyweight maybe picking Chris Arreola or John Ruiz both of whom i think he could knock out. After this he would have a better right at a crack at the Klitschko’s. The heavyweight division is in a mess and i’m kinda sick of all the Haye bashing he’s a breath of fresh air. Isn’t this the same site championing Haye to move up to heavyweight as he was too good for the cruiserweight division and had nothing left to prove etc etc. Oh and i seem to remember one of the writers saying he had the power to trouble any heavyweight in the division “including the Klitschko’s” How things change eh?
Scott Gilfoid – Haye bangs much harder then Lennox or Sanders!
Haye is chinny so it should be a good fight but I think Vitali is slow and will get caught by Haye, it should be a good fight, I would make it about a 50/50 fight.
Cutman needs to get a grip, Calm down there fella! lol
I think this fight is more interesting than Wlad and since he bottled it anyway looks like we wont get to see him get KTFO by Haye. Unless there ridulous contract still stands. lol
Vitali prob has more skill than Wlad but he way WAY slower. Makes for another nice Haye highlight knockout.
It’s pretty obvious that Vitali didn’t want Wlad to fight Haye from the off, remember way back when first it was Wlad the Vitali then Wlad etc etc etc.
Hopefully were going to see the begining of the end of the most boring Heavyweight title holders ever this september.
Er, did you actually see Klitschko’s last fight vs Gomez?
He was truly awful, and only won because gomez is terrible.
I’d fancy haye vs either of the klitschkos.
Even more so Vitali, he looked old & slow in his last fight.
Delusional, bewildered and or ignorant fans that are in point of fact willing to believe that Mr. David Haye could muster the snuff to withstand the power and skill not to mention the size of the Vitali Klitschko brand of fighting machine truly are in need of getting out of their fairy-tale world of make believe. Facing the “facts of life” is not easy with Haye fans seeming to be a most specialized troop of this type box fan(atic).
Should the unlikely fight between Vitali Klitschko and Haye materialize in September the believers in Mr. Haye will be forced to live thru minutes of consummate suffering while their paragon is de-mystified and put down for the count in some arena somewhere.
Haye simply lacks the proper amount of capability to go against the better heavyweight boxer and will unquestionably land either face up or face down on the canvas unable to continue the travesty that he himself created for a then largely disenchanted boxing community.
After Haye’s defeat he will be dismissed for that what he always was / is, a cheesy pretender without what it takes to command respect in the heavyweight scene.