Comments on: Early Analysis of Pacquiao-Cotto

By: Big Daddy

Big Daddy — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:20:29 +0000

It’s alright COTTO! It’s alright…

Cotto Wins by TKO in 9th…

or is he weight drained???

PACMAN HATERS AND NON BELIEVERS… JUST TWO WORDS..

SUCK IT

By: Mel J

Mel J — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:14:37 +0000

Listen all, Deal with it. you loose….on cotto’s analysis… PACMAN WINS…. Don’t be foolish to judge right away without looking on the fights. Adios amigos…

By: meloh p. salazar

meloh p. salazar — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:35:19 +0000

pacman by ko 8th round.

By: jackp

jackp — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:18:21 +0000

What is wrong with the pacman asking for a catch weight? He is a (not even a natural) 140 pounder and he’s going up to 145 pounds. That is 5 pounds difference in comparison to cotto’s 2 pounds.

By: vertigo501

vertigo501 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:13:34 +0000

if dela hoya and hatton were too easy– they were probably not that good– dela hoya was too old, and hatton not skilled enough.

boxing hype changes immediately after the bout. whereas before fighting pacman, both dela hoya and hatton were considered bigger and stronger, after the bout dela hoya was shot and dehydrated and hatton became a class b fighter overnight.

now, we have mixed hype with cotto, who is either too big or is not good enough for pacman because of mosley as alternative (who by the way is both old and way bigger than pac).

such musings perhaps belong to the hardcore boxing fan (say about a hundred handful). i belong to the “informed” casual boxing fan. i simply reviewed the most recent fight(s) of cotto and pacman- and read a bit of the hype. cotto did not look that dominant against clotty, who is presumably not a truly elite fighter. i would tend to believe nacho’s take here and agree that cotto has changed since losing to margarito.

i think even if the pacman KOs cotto, the notion that pacman is too small at welterweight (which is true) and not powerful enough at this weight class (doubtful by now) will continue in order to sell tickets. afterall, if everyone says immediately that the pacman is the clear winner, it won’t be much of a build up for the fight. in the same way, hatton had to be built up before they met in may. well, this time, cotto is a true welterweight but with the catchweight at 144-145, i won’t be surprised is the dehydration angle will be brought up again by hype artists. i find it OK to build up the hype that dela hoya was simply dehydrated- let him save his face, he didn’t win any round against the pacman. i think dela hoya was dehydrated, old, shot, and a class b fighter- against the pacman- i don’t really care, the pacman whooped dela hoya’s ass because dela hoya did not prepare for the fight- dela hoya lost big time. i think the true champion fighters prepare well and would not find the excuse on dehydration.

in cotto’s case, the dehydration claim will not hold water. a few lbs is not an entire weight class. pacman’s speed will prevail as always. power or no power, the pacman will be more accurate and surprising with his punches. KOs are delivered with higher probability from punches that surprise.

By: Wayne Lord

Wayne Lord — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:37:39 +0000

Bliss, your statement that Hatton is stronger and better than Cotto is blinded by love for Pacman. No one else will agree with you but other blind Pacman fans. I am as big a fan as you but I am certainly not blind.
I want Pacman to win and feel in my heart he will find a way but my head keeps asking questions. I see both Nepster, Brahma Bull and JCV keep making decent points. The 1st two obviously are Pac’s fans but I suspect JCV is not or maybe neutral.
I still respect his views. Just because someone is not a fan does not mean they can’t make an unbiased observation. In fact sometimes I ask the same hard questions.
We hoped but did we really feel Ali would beat Foreman or that Douglas had any chance vs Tyson or Pac could destroy Oscar? The answers are all resounding N-O-S! Experts and fans are entitled to their opinions. That is why fights are fought in the ring and not in papers or magazines.
Manny is the cash cow and everyone wants him. he is also a warrior & has accepted JMM & Barrerea not once but twice & came out on top. Eat your hearts out JMM fans. He also fought Morales 3 times and also came out on top. The 1st fight was close but he always does better in rematches. He is a student and is getting better under Roach. I would like to see the rematch with Marquez although I feel that it would be so onesided now.

Manny is hitting harder at 140 and has improved so much than JMM. Apart from JMM fans, this is not a fight that fans are demanding. Manny needs to fight and beat the bigger guys to further his name in history. That is why he wants Cotto and then Mayweather and lastly Mosley. If he can get past Cotto, I feel Mayweather will be easier but Shane will be very tough.
Mosley is the toughest because he hits hard, has a great chin and is almost as fast. However, he is not a young man so I suspect Roach wants to outlast and frustrate him. Shane is my number 2 and Cotto number 3 favourites. I wish them well but Pacman is amazing. The future belongs to Juan Manuel Lopez and Yuri Gambio of Cuba. That will be the next small man “big” fight.

By: JCV

JCV — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:13:02 +0000

Wayne Lord:

I think that part of this arrangement to fight is the welterweight crown and the 6 title to Manny or Im wrong.

By: JCV

JCV — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:07:07 +0000

MuchoMacho:

I don’t have any problem with Pacman and I believe as you said that he is coming up in weight and improving his boxing skills on a impressive way. He is great.

All my comments goes to those who really believe he is unbeatable and underestimate Cotto’s abilities.

This is a new game in Pacma’s journey and as Wayne Lord says, I don’t know if he will be able to hold Cotto’s combos or any other top welterweight assault and it’s insane to believe he is not gone be hit on a fight like this one using his speed as an excuse.

Cotto’s haters use his last fight (Clottey) to compare both fighters stiles and performance and I also believe that is not a very accurate way to see this one, each fight it’s different an a whole universe. The only secure thing here is that both fighter are gone be on his prime.

I also believe that 145 it’s NOT a catch-weight for Cotto. I think he can go down to 145 without any problem. Nothing that a good nutritionist can fix. For that reason, as I said before, this is a matter of who can sustain or hold the punishment and finally maintain the rhythm on the fight.

I think Cotto prove enough as a welterweight he can hold a lot of punishment. Can Manny does?

That’s way I sustain that this is the most dangerous fight in Manny’s carrier. Cotto already says this is the biggest one for him. Well that’s what all we need to understand how great its gone be.

Finally, the only thing I see weak in Cotto is his corner, he have to do some adjustment “pronto”.

peace.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:39:59 +0000

as pacman said, speed is key in the game

By: nepster

nepster — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:51:33 +0000

Wayne Lord – Well said my friend…well said, both comments. I’m just tired of Pac haters bashing Pacquiao for fighting bigger guys and accepting challenges from the best welterweights in the world, then they give him crap for wanting to fight at a catchweight. For what? I don’t see SSM, Cotto, and DEFINATLEY not Mayweather challenging guys at 154-160. Yet, Pac is the guy that they’re bashing because apparently he’s trying to get them weight drained. What a load of crap.

By: Bliss

Bliss — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:43:46 +0000

Ricky Hatton is much stronger, powerful, durable and
courageous fighter compared to Miguel Cotto. I am really tired of hearing such analysis that every Manny’s opponent considered to be much more stronger
and bigger compared to him. For me, Miguel has 0 percentage of winning against Pacquiao. coz Manny can avoid those flurry being imposed to him by his bigger and stronger opponents. and can Miguel Cotto can avoid those blinding power shots which Manny will give to Miguel? can Miguel take those big left by Manny.? because you cannot deny that Miguel Cotto
is really hittable in his face. I cant imagine how
much Miguel Cotto reacted with those blinding punches of Pacquiao.

By: Wayne Lord

Wayne Lord — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:07:07 +0000

MuchoMacho, a very balanced analysis. I can see that you understand boxing. I agree Pacman will be much faster than Cotto but I am not sure what effect his punches will have because Cotto always balloons up whereas Pacman will not.
In addition, when he does get hit, how will he handle it. How will he handle a rough and tumble fight with a grinding body assault? We know he can take a decent shot and has speed so it is unlikely that he will get hit with combinations.

But has he gone up to high this time? Does he have that intangible that the truly, truly great ones have? Can he dig deep and overcome what will be a big weight difference? I can’t see it but in my heart I felt he would find a way against DLH and he did. Against what common sense analysis tells me I will go with my heart and gut feeling again and pick Manny to win.

By: Wayne Lord

Wayne Lord — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:01:29 +0000

To Trevez and all you people who are worried about this fight. Why don’t Cotto come down and fight Manny at his real weight, which is 130 lbs? If he is so big, tough and strong, then he why not take the challenge?
I repeat, there are weight divisions for a reason but you people just don’t get it. This is not about the P4P title, it is tsrictly about making $. And Cotto, Mosley and all the welters want a piece of Pacman but yet Pacman haters ewant to see him go up to meet their challenge. Why? Cuz they want an unfair advantage so he can lose and they can be happy.
Pacman can make fights at 140 and clean up cuz he is the cash cow. Cotto vs Margarito, Margarito vs Mosley & Cotto vs Clottey were decent match ups but did not generate that superstar interest like when Pacman fights.
Marquez vs Floyd already died due to lack of interest. If I was Manny I would stop trying to be fair and tell Cotto meet me at 130 or go away. Go away and fight Williams at catchweight of 154. Let’s see how he likes that. I mean fight night he will be over 154 anyhow. But I guess because Williams will be 160-165 at the same time, it is not fair right?
Why have weight limits when fighters use it to their advantage to come in way over the agreed limit. due to safety issues the changed the weigh in from the day of the fight to 24 hrs before, but now it has become an advantage for a bigger guy against a smaller guy.
If you are having problems at one weight, why not move up. In the older days there were only 8 classes so e.g. you went from 135 to 147, 147 to 160, 160 to 175 and over 175 was heavyweight. Of course they were lower weights than 135 but we are talking about this range.
I am sick of the Pacman bashing. I do not see other fighters willingly move up to fight bigger men. They are all looking to fight down. He is looking to fulfill his legacy and people prefer to cut him up rather than praise him for being brave. Is it because he is not American? I like all boxers especially those who are exciting and are fearless. Manny is that man!!!!!

By: trevez17

trevez17 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:01:58 +0000

Exactly why doesen’t Pacquiao come in at 146-7 instead of it being Cotto 2 come in at a catch weight, if he’s such a champion and so great which every1 is adamant he is…then he will come up to 146-7 which people think he could easily do and beat Cotto.

In my opinion if the weight was at 146-7 then im backing Cotto for a 7-8 round k.o.

But i’m worried if Cotto comes in at a catch weight he could easliy be weight drained and also because he has such power he would get tired to easily and it would then favour Pacquiao. I can’t wait for this fight but I seriously do think that if Pacquiao is so great he would come up to 146-7.

By: JCV

JCV — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:33:14 +0000

3 stars and a glove:

In my last comment I refers to Manny Paquiao vs Erick Morales 1, not Marquez.

Im clear with weight clases and that’s my point. Hey, Im looking foward for Pacman / Cotto fight, I think it’s gone be a great fight. But the thing is, how can you call yourself a multi divisional champ if precisely you dont respect dose weight clases.