Does Pacquiao deserve to be ‘Fighter of the Year’?
June 12th, 2009
By Manuel Perez: After I recently learned that Manny Pacquiao was to receive the Edward J Neil award from the Boxing Writers Association of America as the “Fighter of the Year” for 2008, I almost went into shock. How in the world did they come up with Pacquiao as the fighter to receive the award? Believe me, if I was among the panel who had voted, I would have filibustered the nomination until they came up with a that I agreed on.
Is that all it takes to win the ‘fighter of the year’ award, wins over Diaz and De La Hoya? I personally don’t count the Marquez win because I saw Marquez winning the fight by at least two rounds, possibly three. I’m not the only one, because a whole bunch of my other esteemed boxing writers saw Marquez as the winner of that fight.
With the controversy that surrounds that fight, along with Pacquiao’s insistence that the faded 36-year-old Oscar De La Hoya come in at 147.
It doesn’t make sense to me. You beat a totally shot De La Hoya after getting him to boil down to a weight that he hadn’t fought in years, and then beat him up when De La Hoya was too weak to fight. Next, Pacquiao beats arguably the weakest of the lightweight champions in David Diaz rather than going after the arguably more dangerous Nate Campbell or an equally talented Juan Diaz.
Either of those fighters would have at least made it competitive with Pacquiao for awhile. In March of that year, Pacquiao had huge problems against Marquez, who other than a flash knockdown in the fight, he boxed circles around Pacquiao for the entire fight.
Instead of fighting Diaz, Pacquiao should have fought World Boxing Council super featherweight champion Humberto Soto, who I consider to be a lot better fighter than Diaz and De La Hoya. This is no knock on Oscar, because he was the best there was when he was young and would have probably destroyed Pacquiao.
But De La Hoya was too old by the time Pacquiao fought him and really wasn’t equipped to win the fight, in particular after De La Hoya was forced to take off weight to meet 147 pound fight limit.
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“How can Pacquiao be given this award when he pretty much lost his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez in March 2008 in the views of many boxing fans, and beat an average David Diaz in June to win his World Boxing Council lightweight title and then defeated the totally shot – and weight drained – Oscar De La Hoya in December 2008.”
Manuel Perez is dumb, regardless of your arguments regarding Pacman’s fights in 2008, we are talking about FIGHTER OF THE YEAR 2009. Its like riding a plane using another carrier’s ticket, plain stupidity.
Perez is right, Pacquiao should not be the fighter of the year..He should be the “fighter of the century”..
moot and academic
I think Nazim should win trainer of the year for 2009 as Mosley’s fight with Margo-cheat was this year. He not only helped Mosley beat Margo-cheato, he exposed Margo-cheato for the scum bag that he is. The Boxing world owes him some gratitude.
He use my name as Bankai to post “I am sorry for three post, i have bad brain and my keyboard full of drool.” :p
Ok I knew Manny was going to win the fighter of the year BUT trainer of the year should be Nazim.
I am sorry for three post, i have bad brain and my keyboard full of drool.
@RealBox
I’m not really attacking you. Did I even say some harsh words like “retards” and stuff..hmmm?
I’m just saying that you are embarrassing yourself for being an internet tough guy. Oh and I DID stay on topic. I said it before and I said it again, Manny Pacquiao deserves the 2008 Fighter of the Year and no one can steal that from him.
@Millertime82
You’re right, why do I even care of replying a “crying baby who can can’t accept that his toy got broken” <.<
“Realbox”- Obviously you’re right (in your mind). A wise man once told me “you can’t argue with an idiot”. So you win.
So for having my own opinion, and happening to agree with the article writter’s opinion i am in the wrong?.
Screw that, i am entitled to my own opinion.
Indio do the same search for “outstanding hindi in sports” it’s basically the same quality, now go back to your support desk and answer some phones.
Conrad.
Defending too much? you did the exact same thing as everyone else but a couple of guys, try to sound smart by NOT talking about the article, instead of personally attacking me you should try to write something related to the article, if you have nothing to weigh in with STFU and move on to the next article, or go troll some video in youtube.
Stay on topic retards.
Hey Ronald, How did Oscar not except his defeat with Pac?
I would say that retiring from a sport that the man(Oscar) was doing since he was five pretty much says that he accepted his loss…dont you?
And yes,you have to give Manny fighter of the year.
Hey realbox, Im not Philipino, I am Indian, but I love PAC execute boxing… He deserve to get the award… I watch many mexican fighters they’re just bully… but looser… like you.
Although I consider Pacquiao to be a very good fighter, I agree with you Manuel, that he did not win the second Marquez- Pacquiao fight. I also agree that he beat a Dela Hoya, who was weak and dehydrated. While Manny would not be my pick for the fighter of the year award, I must stop short of saying that he is not deseving of this award.
Can’t we all just get along? I’d hate to f-ing say it, but seriously man. This is JUST boxing and we are all JUST fans. State your opinions and if they differ from some one else, so be it. No need to make personal attacks on other fans, or other fan’s countries. With that said, there’s nothing I can say that hasn’t already been said, but does Pac deserve to be fighter of the year? I believe he does. Was JMM an amazing fight for Pac…absolutely. If he didn’t win that fight, then no, he wouldn’t deserve to be fighter of the year. I agree that David Diaz was a tailor made opponent for Pac, but as far as saying he “cherry picked” de La Hoya, that’s absurd. De La Hoya was the one who pursued Manny Pacquiao after he chickened out after seeing what Margo-cheato did to Cotto. Yes, the ODLH that showed up was a mere shadow of himself, but how was Pac to know that when he accepted the fight? Is it Pac’s fault that ODLH looked like a past his prime amature in the ring? Going into the fight, 90% of the boxing world didn’t even give Pac a chance in hell at winning, so to claim that Pac “cherry picked” De La Hoya borders on insanity. IMO, the fact that Pac and JMM put on one of the fights of the year, and his ability to move through 4 weight classes (in one year!) and the excitement of ALL his boughts in 08 contsitutes fighter of the year. Were there others that faced tougher competition? MAYBE JMM, but if you’re going to call ODLH past his prime, then you have to do the same for Joel Casamayor. So JMM fought Pac (and lost, regardless of what others say, a loss is a loss) and he beat a past his prime Casamayor. Was it B-Hop? He lost to Calzaghe. Was it Calzaghe? He fought PAST THEIR PRIMES B-Hop and RJJ. P Will Maybe? He got schooled by Quintana the first time around. So as you can see, you can make a case against ANYONE, but the overall consensus is the Manny Pacquiao had a damn good year. Besides, if you want to state otherwise, then you should have become a member of the BWAA and stated your opinion by casting a different vote. Sorry Manuela Perez, then won’t allow biased writers membership. They would look at ALL your articles and your anti-anything not mexican articles and laugh. It’s okay to not think Pac is great, but seriously dude, get over it.
Oops sorry, I mean “2008 Fighter of the Year” xD
Realbox, you are embarrassing your self as an internet tough guy. Your defending too much
Lets be mature guys, Pacman will still be the 2009 fighter of the year.
Hey Millertime82, I just added it for you, you can thank me later.
“The Truth”…but hurt or butt hurt?
For all you so-called experts(JMM lovers), judges are at ringside for a reason and they are judges for a reason. Why have judges if you don’t accept the “judgment” all you JMM lovers need to accept the judgment!!! Deal with it IDIOTS!!!
Indio, i can assure you i wouldn’t be able to write an entire article, i don’t have the chops for that. But i am flattered by your insinuation.
you guys are ridiculous, from plain ridiculous threats to nationalistic bullshit, like Evil Bull said your little heads are so far up pac’s arse that you just can’t see beyond your own opinion.
How come you guys don’t weigh in in my choices for fighter of the year?, well, I think it’s because the ONLY fights you watch are manny’s, so how could you really know how the sport is doing?, and really, all the fighters you guys talk about are pac and his oponents, shit i am sure most of you wouldn’t know what weight class he is right now!, you just know that he is the pac, and that he pays for your internet connection.
So please stop pretending that you know ANYTHING about boxing and trying to criticize any writter that differs on your ridiculous idolatry of the only boxer… wait, the only ANYTHING you have going in your country.
oops caught…
I think we can’t stop the people who are routing for the most exciting fighter. Now that you mention it. I think they choose pacquiao because he is the most exciting fighter this year. You can hear the crowd shouting when pacquiao landed every punch to his opponents.
Wow!!!! You Pac Man fans are something else!!! Alot of you guys have your head up Manny Pacquiao’s ass! So deep its just pointless to continue explaining that he’s not fighter of the year. I really like Pac Man boxing skills too, but you guys think hes a God or something! Pac Man was gifted the win over Marquez but it doesn’t matter anyway cuz you guys beleave in what ever the media says!
manuela perez is just a wannabe who doesn’t know anything about boxing. maybe you should write articles about panties, makeup or anything like that. my dog can write better articles.
the association of real writers have spoken so your opinion doesn’t count manuela. you’re a fake writer and everything you say falls on deaf ears. you have complains, go to the police station and file a blotter.
Your writing tirades are only designed to get reactions, but really you’ve just become an insignificant clown show of an online hack. Hopefully they shut you up for wasting online bit space.
Sorry Dad.
But Pacquaio is the man.
Manuel perez is the guy. He should be given an award for being too honest to what he believes about boxing. But he is lying to himself when he can’t admit that he is an avid Pacquiao die-hard fan. Viva Manuel Perez Pacquiao.
Sour grapes.
Juan Manuel Marquez should be a beautician. He gave all those nice looking shots but could not floor pacman. one shot and one shot alone and marquez is kissing the floor. And you call marquez a champion? he kiss the floor so he could rest and not be knocked out that is why. That tactic is for gay. look at hatton he fought with heart. look at dela hoya, still standing despite looking like a punching bag. No wonder there is not much respect for marquez even among mexican fighters.
Mr. Perez, u keep on ranting that Pacquiao does not deserve the 2008 award, you keep on talking about his wins over Dela Hoya and David Diaz, but you never mention his win over Hatton who hasn’t lost in the 140 lbs weight class. You said, if you were one of the judges you wouldn’t have voted for him, the problem is, you’re not, so shut up.
Manuel Perez…… You are a prize pillock! You are clearly so biased towards hating pacqio. please stop writing about him. I am a big ricky hatton fan an I still think he genually deserves that award! Get a life, an lay of him!
Mind your own business jen.
Everyone is entitled to his-her opinion, flaming someone in all of the site’s posts is not cool.
@Realbox
Why are you defending too much lol?
Lets just face it men…chill
@ The Brahma Bull
very well said. your post pretty much covered everything about what is being said by everyone here no matter which side they are on.
and the closing, that the pacman became the fighter everyone wants to fight after 2008 is as strong as an ‘exclamation point’ on who should be awarded the fighter of the year for 08.
To DEZ,
Yeah you right…. about pacquiao but you need to fight him just to get “THE FIGHTER OF THE YEAR”
I don’t think Campbell would have the power 2 knock out Pacquiao and Juan Diaz,though a pressure fighter…well we all know what happened to the last pressure fighter Pacquiao fought…
Manny Pacquiao is the P4P King, on book, on paper, to at least 90% of the fans. I think Marquez was a close fight-but it could of gone either way, i watched the fight at least 4-5 times, and still pick different winners. Gift decision? Mayweather got one vs Castillo, Oscar got one vs Sturm-is boxing and it happens. Pacman has fought alot tougher competition than Mayweather, sh*t, Mayweather called himself P4P King and he didnt even beat none of the REAL TOP Welters-and that was “his” division! So stop hating on Pacman, he deserves his title, the best P4P list could be found on Yahoo Sport. IMO, Pacman will remain there until he is beaten, Floyd can beat Marquez or viceversa but they will remain #2. Pacman running from Matrquez? I think so-but, he did beat Oscar and KOd Hatton in how many minutes?
hey mr. perez why dont you quit on your job and stay at home coz if i saw you i will beat you like pacquiao beats ricky hatton…
@ The Brahma Bull:
Nicely done, good points there, while i don’t agree with the “right to cherry pick”, that was a very articulate argument.
“Esteemed Boxing Writers”…LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you look at all the candidates, no boxer should receive it. JMM, not really. He was put on the canvas again. He held on to the ropes and went to the wrong corner. He obviously hasn’t proven he’s won because there are many people here who feel he didn’t and the majority of the judges didn’t feel he won either. He doesn’t have everyone’s vote. But, his win over Casamayor was impressive. Let’s face it, he’s a great boxer but he didn’t win all his fights in 2008, even though most people feel he did. But just remember, it’s not our opinions that count. Miguel Cotto? Not him either. Although we all know what happened, he still didn’t hurt Margarito. Margarito absorbed all his punches, and they looked pretty hard. Cotto was slow and Margarito was able to hit him too many times. He went into the fight thinking he can break down Margarito’s chin. No matter how great I think Cotto is, he just didn’t come in with a great game plan. He didn’t try to go for Margarito’s body. He tried to expose Margarito’s chin. Paul Williams? Maybe, but for some reason, his name doesn’t seem to leave its mark on everyone. I can’t say anything bad about the guy but I can’t say anything great, no matter how many wins he has. He just doesn’t leave an impression. There’s Valero. So many darn knockouts. Does he qualify, definitely. I don’t believe he’s ducked anyone, but I’m not sure. He did win all his fights in 2008, if he had any. What I mean is that he, no matter how impressive he is, just doesn’t leave that impression on me as well. I’ve only heard about his fights but have never been excited to see them. Then there’s Pacquiao. He killed De la Hoya. He destroyed Diaz. But, he only managed to get a split decision over Marquez. Does that qualify him? Maybe just as much as Paul Williams and Valero. Pacquiao still won and was undefeated in 2008. Although his opponents, other than Marquez, were nothing like Morales or Barrera, he still put on a show. I don’t think he was boring in 2008. His match with Marquez is a true classic but his other two fights were ok. He definitely wasn’t boring to watch but his competition was.
Therefore, there are so many things that a boxer needs to do to earn this title. Since they all can’t possibly do all these things, we have to take into consideration other things and that’s where the problem starts. Whose to say that one aspect is better than the other? According to Realbox, a boxer should get the title if he doesn’t cherry pick his fighter. That’s great, but what if you’re not worthy to cherry pick. What if no one cares to fight you? If a boxer earns the right to cherry pick, he definitely has done something in the sport to put him in that position. I can guarantee that not every chump out there has the right to cherry pick. Although cherry picking is not something I approve of, but being able to do it because you can obviously says something about status. Pacquiao is not running away from Marquez. Pacquiao just happened to make his way to the top with Mayweather, Oscar, etc. These fighters no longer do it just for the sport, they’re in it for the big money also. They’ve all proven themselves and have taken on tough opponents. Although they haven’t fought everyone, they’ve proven themselves because, obviously, they’ve done something that makes others want to fight them. They have earned the right to cherry pick. If they do, I won’t approve of it, but they’ve earned the right. That’s respectful. Pacquiao has fought JMM twice. I hardly call that running away. If Pacquiao beats JMM for the third time, will he still be considered as running away if Marquez continues to call him out? It’ll never stop.
Marquez called out Mayweather. If you notice, it wasn’t the other way around. Marquez, no matter how good he is, isn’t “cherry picking” material as of now. He hasn’t earned the right to choose. So far, no one is chasing him. He’s doing the chasing. But I guarantee you that once he’s up there, if he beats Mayweather, he just won’t fight anyone if they call him out. He’ll start picking and choosing because it will be a whole new world, a world full of boxers calling him out. He’ll be worth too much for him just to fight any JoeBlow boxer. But, I can guarantee you that, like Pacquiao, Marquez will fight a name in boxing. He’ll fight champions as well, whether we feel they are true champions or not. If you think about, all the cherry picks that Oscar, Mayweather, and Pacquiao have been claimed to pick aren’t exactly all chumps. These three men have impressive resumes, whether we like them or not. Once a boxer earns the right to cherry pick, he has entered a whole new world that we, all the boxing fans that write in this forum, won’t understand. Remember, these guys are not street fighters. These guys have become athletes in a whole different league.
There’s just so much about this whole boxer of the year thing that not everyone will agree that the winner deserves it. I feel that Pacquiao deserves it because he wasn’t boring (constantly throwing punches to keep the fans excited), he dominated 2/3 fights, and fought his heart out in a close fight with Marquez. He definitely didn’t quit. I’m sure others feel that there are boxers more deserving of the title, but Pacquiao really stood out that year. Whether people agree with me or not, Pacquiao became the fighter everyone wants to fight after 2008.
So i suppose Ronald IS a fighter, and he got hit in the face one too many times to be unable to get the point of the discussion, and to have such a horrible way to express himself, now if english is not your primary language i totally take it back and just settle to discuss the one and only point i understood.
You say:
“This Boxers are betting their lives for fame, money and their country but they are not stupid enough to die for it. This is one of the reason why some boxers are afraid of facing a good boxer.”
I totally understand what you are saying there, and that is exactly the point of many others critizicing pac, he is afraid of taking on boxers that ARE on their prime, and as far as for the money, fame, and country, there are one more kind you might not know about, those who love the SPORT, and those who risk their lives in the ring for the love of their people. De la hoya is one of those that go for the money and fame, hell he’s got a very sucessfull enterprise in Golden Boy Promotions, so the more publicity he gets, the better for his BUSINESS, not career, that has been over for quite a while now.
And for the guy who says:
“The Filipino nation should take note, and demand extra protection for her illustrous son”
Hell man, you need help!, i know pac gives most of his money back to his peoples, but get a job, and in the process, a LIFE, he will be retiring soon, hurry up.
IT’s been said by many other writters, not just by Manuel Perez that he cherry picks his fights [i think he said that], and the one and indisputed truth is Mayweather HASN’T lost, pac has, so i say again, there is your P4P, and since he [Mayweather] won’t be fighting pac coming right out of retirement, he [pac] if decided will fight a mentally and physically more prepared boxer, so like the man above said, there might be the chance that he gets scared of getting brain damage or parkinsons disease, and that he just forgets about that fight.
You watch.
Ps. I HAVE worn gloves before and still do from time to time.
Personally, I thought Paul Williams should be fighter of the year.
I just don’t understand why there are many “Internet Tough Guys” and so called “Boxing Experts” here when they can’t even understand that Boxing is life threatening.
Most of the people here saying that they all know about boxing well let me tell you this. Have you ever put a boxing gloves before and got hit on the face? Do you even know that you might catch a brain damage or Parkinson Disease?
This Boxers are betting their lives for fame, money and their country but they are not stupid enough to die for it. This is one of the reason why some boxers are afraid of facing a good boxer.
So what my point? Well the point is De La Hoya agreed for fighting Pacquiao, but before the contract signed, De La Hoya is thinking this on this head, “I think I’m good at 147, lets bring it on!”. De La Hoya lost and then many people are trying to make excuses like weight drain or past his prime. SO WHAT!? De La Hoya agree with it! He should say “No, I don’t want to fight him(Pacman)” instead he signed the contract and then come fight night. In the end he’s just blaming himself about it but a true fighter suppose to accept his defeat.
Now for Hatton’s fight. Hatton said this, “I’m confident that I can beat him(pacman)”. Well in the end he got knocked out. Some say that he has no defense….SO WHAT!?…He did say that he improve his defense skills…so was that a lie!?
Now this “De La Hoya Fans and Ricky Fans” are bashing about Manny Pacquiao’s winning streak saying that, “oh he can’t beat JMM” or “he has nothing over Floyd Mayweather” or “He is not worthy enough” but I wanna ask you this. Do you even know what Boxing is? Do you even know on what risk if you got hit on the face?
To all Pacman Haters, I’m not a Pacman fan nor Ricky or Oscar fan but please understand that boxing is a sport. If you win, you win but if you lose, you lose, THAT IS SPORT!. Boxers suppose to accept their defeat. So what if JMM has 1 draw 1 lose to pacman. JMM should make that record as a lesson and tomorrow will be another day. Don’t stuck in the past because it like your crying over spilt milk that can never put it back on the glass.
Also, I think Manny do deserve the “Fighter of the Year”. So Manuel Perez, stop being so childish. There will be time that JMM will be a fighter of year someday. Its just that today is about Manny Pacquiao. For now, I think I should study more about Pacquiao because I heard that he had an interesting past in his life but that’s just me because I like researching things like this
Pac just demolish every mexiperez fighter out there, what is more to prove! He already cemented his legacy to the boxing world. Stop hating! I hope your boy JMM wins the fight so that Pac will demolish him once and for all! And by the way He is the Mexican Assasin! Bit@H!
Pacquiao’s last four fights don’t merit an FOY award. So, who should be the FOY? I dunno, I don’t even think it is important to have such an award. It is as irrelevant as P4P. P4P is an overplayed stupid concept, so I won’t even go there.
If there’s anything in Pac’s last four fights that should earn him props it was the one against JMM. Everything that can be said about that fight has been said — it could have gone either way, blah blah blah. Personally, I have no problem with Pac taking the W there. Until JMM can stay on his feet with Pac, he will never get my nod. Now, before you Pagnuthugger fags get your droopy little dangles all tangled up in your knickers… when I say Pacquiao is overrated, I did not mean he was to be blamed. I mean it was because Arum and Roach cherry-picked his last three opponents. Arum waaay over-protecting his golden-egg-laying-goose, Freddie protecting his priced pupil. Stop arguing that fact.
True, most people thought Oscar was too big for Manny, but that didn’t change the fact that Dela Hoya was shot. Buboy could have chowed down Golden Fishnet Boy that night if he was basted in barbecue sauce. That did not change the fact that the Hatton-is-naturally-bigger cr#p that HBO fed your three drops of gray matter, was all that — plain BS.
Hear this: Pacquiao is capable of beating top quality and tougher opponents. Marquez KOed Juan Diaz, but I believe Pac can do the same, and will lose fewer rounds to JD in the process. When I say Pac is overrated I mean he was rated so high because the nincompoops must have factored his last three fights heavily. Pac can be great, stop saying he already is. Please, don’t even consider him greatest of all time, the earth would open up and swallow you all with your grandmothers. LoL.
Pac has a huge potential. But, I don’t think he will ever get there. Not with the way his team cherry picks his opponents and handicaps the ones that pose real threat. Not with the way Arum is playing his cards to line his bottomless pocket of greed. Not with the way the powers-that-be in boxing are glamorizing and romanticizing Manny’s fame to fill their need for a poster boy.
Pacquiao, at this point, is overrated. STFU about it.
(Oh, let me remind y’all once again. I won’t read your response to my post. I won’t waste my time. I’ve long given up hope that you Pacnuthuggers will ever grow your own cajones and man up. LoL. Ciao. I love you all. Ha ha!)
The only ones bashing Perez are Flips. The real boxing fans know that Pacquiao ain’t shit.
THE GREATEST FIGHTERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE TO A WEIGHTCLASS AND CLEAN OUT THE DIVISION.EXAMPLE FELIX “TITO” TRINIDAD COMPLETELY DOMINATED THE 147 AND 154 WEIGHT DIVISIONS BEFORE RUNNING INTO B-HOP.THIS CHERRYPICKING AND STRATEGIZING IS BULLSHIT.
I think the fighter of the year should be the one able to draw the biggest crowd and win. That would be Pacquiao even though he himself was’nt the biggest draw but his opponents DLH and Hatton. Pac was the underdog in the Oscar fight and if he was weight drained or not it’s not his fault, shame on Oscar’s trainers etc. This just shows what a crappy year in boxing we had and hopefully we get better matchups this year like Cotto-Clottey tonight which is a real fight with two champs fighting at there own weightclasses in their prime!
I don’t really get the point of this article. I myself believe that Marquez won his last fight with Pacquiao but I have no problem accepting the decision, given the fact that most rounds were very difficult to score and could easily go to either way. Manny’s fight with David Diaz truly was a “safe” fight but Diaz is no push-over either. Remember that Diaz once gutted out Jose Armando Santa Cruz, the man who many felt was robbed of a victory over Joel Casamayor. Manny’s fight against Oscar to me was a winning situation for Manny, whichever way the fight went. Remember that Oscar came up with the fight and not the other way around and Manny did enter the ring as the “clear” underdog. Manny’s jump to two weight class higher than his highest fighting weight was a clear dive to uncharted waters and was inspiring in every sense and a victory would certainly validate his greatness. Unfortunately, that wouldn’t be the case as Oscar’s weight drain issues took center stage after Manny gave a new meaning to the ultimate mismatch that the “experts” had foreseen. I don’t buy that though. I believe Manny was the better man that day and no one in the world has the right to take that away from him, especially through excuses only used by crybabies. I can’t really think of a better resume for 2008 than this.
This writer probably believes that Manny should have at least beaten one of the Klitschkos to be in consideration for Fighter of the year. Who knows? Manny might just go for it to shake this writer off.
I am no boxing writer and I certainly am not an analyst. I am a Pacquiao fan, not a nuthugger. I too am a Marquez fan. My favorite fighter of all time is Erik Morales. In short, I am your general boxing fan, with an open mind. I love the sport of boxing and adore its fighters for risking their lives for it. Being a fan, I am also a critic of the sport. It has its flaws, and so do the fighters. However, taking away all of a person’s accomplishments is not the way of a true critic, it’s that of a pure hater. Trust me, only fans, critics included, deserve to write as it is them who know boxing.
This article is not just disrespectful towards Pacquiao, it degrades the value of great men, Marquez, Diaz, and de la Hoya. If prevailing over these men won’t put you in considerations for Fighter of the Year, then the award is probably a joke.
I have no problem with whoever is writing this crap. I probably am helping him by posting a comment on this. However, for me, it is articles like these that make people forget how good and exciting boxing is, especially with the right boxers involved.
Perez is one of those kids who got his head flushed down the toilet at school. If i had been there i’d have stuck the plunger 6 feet up his ass. You are a tosser. Same article everytime. Its boring, get of Marquez’s lap.
Stop your whining, and your idiotic statements since you are bias in many ways. Do you tuck JMM at night, and sing him lullaby too? So, I guess you consider Morales, Barrera as shot fighters too when Manny beat them? Manny lost to Morales, and he did not whine like a girl, like your girlfriend Juan Manuel, so get ovet it.
hmm??? Who SHOULD win this award if not Manny Pacquiao??? lets see Shane Mosley beat Margarito when every one was afraid of him.So i think it was Mosley. Paul Williams could have been the fighter of the year if other big name boxers wernt afraid of him. Paquiao Beat Average Diaz and a Drained past his prime Oscar De la hoya! Wow! so Impresive! You can,t count the fight vs Marquez when he did not deserve the win! But I know there were a few more boxers that I did not mention that were as good as the Pac Man did in 08!
Pacqiou is a Great fighter! but to say he was the fighter of the year or the P4P king! Is a little to much!
Good Point “Ray” I agree!
Pacquiao did win didnt he? Its what it says on Wikpedia, Boxrec, on here, Boxing confidential, HOB, NASN, ESPN, all British TV networks and im sure that the boxing authorities also keep records which will all say Pacqiao won.
If Pacman does not deserve to be fighter of the the year then who does?
Who has been the stand out boxer if it isnt Pacquiao?
If i could honestly think of 1 id say it, Mosleys win over Margarito was brilliant, Carl Froch has had a fantastic year, The south American Lopez has been outstanding too.
But i cant see any of them staggering the boxing world like Pacman did recently with his last 2 wins.
RAY,
I DONT THINK YOU REALLY KNOW or perhaps the word is UPDATED with THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD OF SWEET SCIENCE TODAY… Pehaps you need a SINGLE LEFT HOOK IN THE CHIN from the PACMAN to realized who step and Fight 3 different divisions in the same year…And He demolished all his opponents! BTW, He just simply beat The Legendary 6-Division Champion OSCAR De LA HOYA and brought him into retirement!
IF YOU NEED MORE INFO about what happened last year and why JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ is not the FOTY…you can ask Michael Rosenthal and Mike Marley. LOL….
whoa, touchy…i guess “The Truth” really hurts eh?…
gafasileunam
Don’t Fake your name Mrs. Pacqiou… BTW, How stupid can you be to assume I’m Realbox or anyone else. You cant deny Marquez beat Pacqiou. If you think Pacqiou won then you are either blind or delusional! Don’t believe everything the media says! You should stick to WWE if thats the case!
Wow I can’t believe how anyone truly thinks Pacqiou is the fighter of the year! You all must believe in Santa and the Easter bunny also! LOL!
Or your just writing this out of hatred to Manuel Perez. Maybe its about race what if Pacqiou was Mexican and Marquez was from the Philippine’s would you still think Pacqiou won?
Allot of you guys need to think before you post non sense!
the truth what?….hahaha you have to come up with something better than that “The Truth” (is that you Realbox?)…fact is THIS TRUTH is staring you in the face…TODAY PACMAN IS KING.
I know all of you Pacqiou fans are all but hurt about what Manuel Perez had to say about Pac man.
All I can say is the truth hurts!
” i rest my case”
*ignores troll*
Realbox i appreciate that you find yourself HILARIOUS…posting 2 comments makes you a part of this thread….good for you!
Btw, am I on cue?
Perez, you are not an esteemed boxing writer, Man! You are not even e member of the BWAA. You better shut up coz’ you aint know nanything about boxing…
Man admit it to yourself that yua are just an AVERAGE boxing fan from Mexico… Im sure if you have the chance…you will vote for MARGARITO, MARQUEZ and ANGULO for the Best fighter of 2008, yeah!!! F.ckin’ FREAK!
Gloria, you are completely right!
Pacman should start listening to his gang of forum trolls and start pcking fights on OTHER professions than boxing, programmers and writters are a good and comfy place to start.
You guys are HILARIOUS!, keep’em coming please!.
Hey Manuelita like it or not Pacman is king for now deal with it.
Friendly advise: DON’T LOSE YOUR DAY JOB…LOL!!!
Say what?
First:
You spell it you’re, or you are.
Second:
Say what?, sorry man i can’t understand a single thing you wrote.
and if Mayweather beats Juan Manuel Marquez, well, he IS the pound for pound champ, so be it. I’ll be pissed if JMM beats his behind, as he did with pac in their last fight, and just like that time they give him the fight.
Like a sportscaster said once, “Boxing is judged by appreciation, and sometimes we have to deal with idiot judges like those”
Of the two J.M.M. m.p. fights, being completely fair J.M.M. tied the first one and won the last one.
And I didn’t say that pac needs to stop running from Marquez, i was quoting somebody else, i wouldn’t say it for sure, i KNOW it just will NOT happen.
Now again, cue the… ah nevermind.
This article really sucks!
Better write your article in tissue paper!
Haha Loser!
Pacman is the fighter of the decade!
Realbox your an idiot.
Pac needs to stop running from marquez. Ok he will stop running when pretty boy aka overrated stops running from cotto and mosley. O shit i forgot he only fights SMALL GUYs. BAM If any agrees with perez your a clone of that idiot that knows nothing. Manny could beat mosley,cotto,mayweahter and he would still say manny is overrated. What you gonna say PEREZ when floyd whoops jmm ass????
Manny was considered a huge underdog by most observers—and the fight a mismatch—because of their extreme difference in size. Manny weighed 134.5 pounds when he won the WBC lightweight world title in his previous fight in June, 2008. De La Hoya last held a world title at 154 pounds, and weighed 150 in his previous fight in May, 2008. Boxing’s time-honored conventional wisdom says that, “A good big man beats a good small man.”
“Just 19 months earlier [De La Hoya] had fought Floyd Mayweather Jr.—the world’s number one at the time—to a close, split decision. This time, as a 2-1 on favorite at the MGM Grand sports book before the line was taken down, De La Hoya looked as if he didn’t belong in the same ring as Pacquiao. “Pacquiao punched with excellent technique from his southpaw stance, sharp and accurate, and he was superior in every department and in fact was made to look a bit of a bully, such was the one-sided nature of the affair.”
Fightwriter.com’s Graham Houston reported from ringside, “So many people got it so wrong. What some thought would be a mismatch turned out to be a mismatch in reverse when Manny Pacquiao pasted Oscar De La Hoya for eight rounds in the so-called Dream Match in Las Vegas,”
After the fight, Dan Rafael wrote on ESPN.com, “Pacquiao stunningly administered a beat down of epic proportions. [De La Hoya] was never in the fight for a moment. Pacquiao won his third fight of the year in his third weight division, including winning two titles. The victory makes Pacquiao something of a modern-day Henry Armstrong, the all-time great pound-for-pound legend who over the course of ten months from October 1937 to August 1938, claimed, in order, the world featherweight, welterweight and lightweight championships—back when there were only eight divisions.”
for some real boxer fans we know what real boxing is.there are real boxers as cotto,jmm,baby(bull)diaz,berto,clottey,paul w.there are some of them ,don’t forget they are in other level. come on guys don’t be upset pac is not what you wanna see,SO,for the guy who said the pac out worked marquez he doesn’t know anything about boxing I feel sorry for you, if you want to learn just pay attention when the good boxers gonna fight.DON’T FORGET I WROTE SOME OF THEM
Folks, go ahead and blame me for this article by Perez. Mr Uninformed never even heard about this award for Pac. You folks will recall a few days ago I directed an article to Perez advising him about it.
I doubt he even knew there was a Boxing Writers Assoc in the US. I know he will probably use the old Groucho Marx line that goes something like this, I don’t want to be a member of a club that will accept me as a member. The only difference is that they would probbly accept him (a) if they ever heard of him and (b) if he could write.
Regarding Mr Mean 1, I agree there are often gift decisions usually home town or popularity driven or just 3 blind mice syndrome. But to say Super Roy Jones got a gift vs B-Hop is dumb. That was when they had not yet found kryptonite and Super Roy was super-fast.
B-hop got the same thing Toney got. Speed x speed x speed= impossible to see or hit back. B-hop did not know what was hitting him and he went from Executioner to electrocuted by lightning speed. It was a very boring fight with B-hop at regular speed and Super Roy in super fast speed.
@mr mean:
“Pacqiou needs to stop running from Marquez”
Oh but that will never happen.
The next easy pickens in line:
Edwin Valero.
Or maybe he could fight de la hoya again!…
Exciting!
Well said Realbox! I 100% agree!
Pacqiou needs to stop running from Marquez and settle the score with Marquez ASAP! So retards like Manuel Perez can stop writing S#!% about him!!!!
People like Manuel Perez do not know how to let go of the past. he needs to move on and see whats happening now!
Why doesnt he talk about other fighters that had gifted wins as well like the Mayweather’s win over Castillo the Jones jr. win over Hopkins and Mosley win over Delahoya (rematch)?
People need to take a loss like a man! (even though the judges are full of S#!%!)
LOL, i wish i was the first to comment on this post, i would have written and would have been very accurate:
“Cue the crazed pacquiao fans”
Even if the man here has no real boxing writters (and i’m not saying he is making it up), there have been some other trustworthy posts about pacquiao being an overrated cherrypicker, just to mention one, check out HBO’s boxing site, and look for the commentators weighing in before the hatton fight, they [pac and roach) are rabid that mayweather didn’t choose them as opponnts because it would have been an easier fight coming right out of retirement, and big mouth or not, mayweather hasn’t lost, and pac HAS, so there is your pound for pound.
Nice Post Manuel, i totally agree with you.
So let me say again…
“Cue the crazed, not much else going on for them, pacquiao fans”…
Hit me baby!.
He is the Fighter of the year Period. The Marquez rematch was real close in my eyes Marquez did slightly beat Pacqiou. But to beat the P4P champ you need to beat him clearly.
You would never be on a panel for anything you are a talentless extremely bias “writer” i guess you can be called a writer even though you have NO IDEA what you are doing. All you do is love plaster hands and jmm you have no idea what boxing is. How could manny not get fighter of the year. Can you just quit tryin to write already and go kiss you plaster hands poster.
So what if he thinks Pacqiou lost to Marquez. In the eyes of many boxing fans he did loose to Marquez including me But the bottom line is that Pacqiou was gifted the win and theres nothing you or I can do to change it!
He has whooped every one else out there! I think he he is the fighter of the year. for now anyway will see what happens if hes forced to fight Mosley or Mayweather. or even better yet maybe he can settle the score with Marquez once and for all!
do manny pacquiao deserve to be the fight of the year?
HELL YES!
do manuel perez deserve to be boxing writer?
HELL NO!
Yeah, I just don’t get it.
He should write something to do with boxing, and the hate he feels about a certain fighter.
I’ve got to say – most of the writers on this are very very biased against British Fighters (my country men!) some are even border-line racists… but it’s absolutely nothing compared to Mr Perez’s utter hatred for Pac-man.
I just dont get it.
If not Pac then who? You are by far the most racist and incompetent sports writer I have ever read!!!
I’m not going to even respond to the Lb for Lb worst boxing writer in the world– Manuel “The Bias Mexican” Perez. I’m just going to say, Manny won both fights with Marquez. He knocked him down 3 times in the first round and won at least 5 of the next rounds, clearly outworked Marquez. In the second fight he knocked him down and clearly out worked him again. The Marquez winning propaganda was started by Max “I think Sweat Pee is the greatest boxer of all time” Kellerman. Kellerman thinks anyone who is the boxer in a fight and doesn’t get KO’d wins the fight. He even went as far to say that he feels Marquez is undefeated after losing to Chris John and another mediocre fighter early in his career. Any Perez you’re a moron hope your hard-on for Manny wears off soon.
You’re insane. You should see a shrink or something… This kind of obsession is definately not healthy.
I just did a quick recheck of the hits on this site and Pacman gets the biggest feedback regardless of the writer. Now guess who always writes about Pacman the most? So just like all the fighters today, technically he is calling out Pacman.
Ok Perez why are you WAILING on your bread & butter? Are you Bob Marley (the Wailers)? I know that was not funny but I am trying to call this chicken out. He hides behind a fake name and like his hero Marquez, dreams about Pacman. JMM wants a huge payday but you don’t hear him wailing on Pacman. So why does Perez act this way? Why? Is it not evident? See my opening line!
nice post manuel!!saludos
i remember you infatically stating that Dela Hoya would win the Pacqiuao fight, now he was wait drained and shot?? i would really like ot meet you in person.
perez is right!!! manny is over-rated.