Boxing News – Cotto: “Not Impressed With Pacquiao”
June 23rd, 2009
By Manuel Perez: In an interview with elnuevodia, WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto said that he could care less if he has to fight Manny Pacquiao at the 145 pound catch weight that he and his management team want him to fight. Saying “it does not matter if it is at 145 pounds. That was the weight that we said from the beginning and it’s my range. I will increase it by eight to ten pounds [by fight time].” Cotto also said that he was no impressed with Pacquiao’s recent fights, commenting “he [Pacquiao] has two arms and so do I.”
The victories over Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton are both well tainted because both of them were rather shot at the time that Pacquiao fought them. Before that, Pacquiao looked bad in his second fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, and even though beating him by a 12-round split decision, Pacquiao looked like the loser in that fight.
Pacquiao achieved a lot at featherweight, but failed to clear out the division at super featherweight and prove that he was the best in that division. Boxing being the sport it is, Pacquiao was considered to the best at super featherweight even though he never beat Humberto Sotto or proved that he was good enough to beat Marquez.
Pacquiao moved up from super featherweight anyway after his controversial victory over Marquez. Given what Pacquiao has done in the past couple of years, it’s not surprising that Marquez isn’t the least bit impressed with his performances.
Part of what has made Pacquiao look so bad is his reluctance to give a rematch with Marquez. For some reason, Pacquiao and his fans see his victory over Marquez as being conclusive despite what many people elsewhere in the world think.
Pacquiao has since gone about his business since the controversial win over Marquez and has moved on without proving a thing. Cotto obviously sees what a lot of boxing fans see when they take a look at Pacquiao, and aren’t impressed with what he’s accomplished in the past couple of years in the ring.
Cotto is coming off a 12 round decision over Joshua Clottey in June, a fight where Cotto didn’t look all that great. By not looking great, however, it heightened Pacquiao’s interest in fighting him. It’s kind of sad that it took a bad performance by Cotto to make Pacquiao interested in fighting him.
If it were me, I would want to go after Marquez or the best welterweight in the division Paul Williams, not Cotto who still hasn’t proven that he’s the same fighter after his knockout loss to Antonio Margarito last year. Fight fans are torn over the Pacquiao-Cotto fight. Some say it’s good fight, while others wonder why Pacquiao is fighting the tarnished Cotto and not Marquez, Mayweather or Paul Williams.
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Speed + Power = The End
Thats the calculation result after Pac vs Haton Fight.
well thats points out to Haton. just like…..
Mexican – Pacman = Dead tacco
LOL, really? like when? he’s no hatton you know, he knows to keep his hands up, and mouth shut, unlike some individuals.
“Manny said “I would really like to go against the winner of FMWj vs JMM, But if you ask me, I would really like to have FMWj for a match coz he talks a lot of bull and trash, AND I’M SCARED SHITLESS OF MARQUEZ, HE MIGHT EXPOSE MY OVERRATEDNESS!! (tanslated)”"
Cotto is going to have his jaw broken.
In one of the local news here in the Phillipines, have a interview with Manny.
Manny said “I would really like to go against the winner of FMWj vs JMM, But if you ask me, I would really like to have FMWj for a match coz he talks a lot of bull and trash” (tanslated)
Why I knew this? well, his one of my neighbor.
No kidding I live 2 blocks away from Mannys mansion here in General Santos Phil.
He would really go for it, is just that Bob wants
his pocket to be filled with monney.
I differ. On his way to prove his greatness Manny is trying to go up and clean a few names in the welterweights. Cotto never call him, (It’s obvious that Bob Arum has a lot of interest $$$$ here) but this was’t his idea.
It’s also a matter of been one of the greatest in boxing, we can said “the pride” of been the holder of six divisional titles.
Manny is the most popular fighter at this but Cotto is also a big name. Is’t easy fill up the Madison Square Garden 3 or 4 times consecutively. I know Bob Arum want the whole cake, and the thing is that, apparently, the fight with Cotto it’s on track. For me that’s enough.
Shyon Kelly, get with the program mate! Pacman is the cash cow in boxing. He is the cross over star that everybody wants to fight. He is not chasing them, they are all chasing him. He is a natural 130 lber who recently moved to lighweight.
Oscar called him out because Oscar’s star was fading after very poor performances. So he called out Pacman and set the rules. Pacman accepted and moved up, not to 147 but to about 142. Oscar came down from the catchweight he fought Forbes at and that was less than 7 lbs. Hatton called him out and he again accepted but that was at Hatton’s 140 natural weight.
They all want Pacman but want him to gain weight that he can’t carry? Do you see Pacman calling out guys below him? If he did he should have to drop weight to fight them or it would not be a fair fight either.
When Pavlik and Winky Wright fought Hopkins, and Super Roy vs Trinidad, notice they all met at the midway point to make it even. In each case the naturally bigger man still won as normally is expected when a big meets a small. It is only exceptional guys that can still win.
Manny has shown he has heart and is willing to fight bigger guys. If they want to make a big payday and also get a chance to knock off the cash cow, why not shed the few lbs? If they don’t want just say no and walk away.
In boxing the cash cow always gets the lion’s share even if they are not the champion. If they are also the champ, they get an even bigger slice. I see nothing wrong with that. Ali, Leonard, Oscar and all of the previous cash cows dictated not just % split but also ring size, gloves and sometimes even referees and judges.
Do you really think that having to lose 2-3 lbs before a weigh is such a big deal for Cotto? What was his weight against Margarito and Clottey at the weigh in and fight night? That’s the key.
Personally, I think people make a bigger fuss than the boxers. They have nutritionists to guide them the right way. They will be making enough $ to hire on anyway.
Manny is not a welter and does not need to fight these guys. He is just trying to give fans some decent match ups that we normally won’t ever see. If they can reach a deal, let them do it.
Today’s fighters make too many excuses anyway. Guys used to go up and fight bigger guys without gaining extra weight or asking the bigger guy to come down. They just wanted to fight and did not give a crap.
That is why Armstrong was able to capture three different titles at his regular weight. Robinson also went up to midlleweight but initially was still a welter. That’s why they were great!
I still believe that Cotto is too big and that he may be able to walk thru Manny’s punches when he comes in at 160. That is why most welters do not want to fight Williams. He comes in way too large on fight night. Plus he has too much reach!
Miguel Cotto will weigh 145 at the weigh in if all the negotiations come through and that is not weight drained for him. Cottos nutritionist said that Cotto could come down to even 144 and not be weight drained so start thinking logically Shyon Kelly.
A FANS ADVICE TO MIGUEL COTTO
Why should Cotto have to move down in weight to give
Pacquaio the advantage? Pacquaio would not do the same for him, or give up any advantage.
MIGUEL COTTO IS THE GREATER FIGHTER, SO IF PACQUIAO
WANTS TO FIGHT, THEN LET HIM COME UP TO WELTER WEIGHT AND FIGHT.
WHY SHOULD COTTO TAKE LESS THAN 50% OF THE MONEY?
COTTO IS THE CHAMPION.
IF PACQUIAO WANTS YOU TO COTTO TO COME IN AT LESS THEN HIS FIGHTING WEIGHT OF 147, IT IS ONLY TO MAKE A FOOL OF HIM.
I BELIEVE THAT IF COTTO STAYS AT 147 HE WILL WIN WITHOUT A DOUBT, BUT IF COTTO COMES IN AS BAG OF BONES LIKE DELAHOYA AND RICKY HATTON, THEN OF COURSE PAQUAIO WILL WIN.
IF PACQUAIO WANTS TO TAKE OUT THE WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPION, THEN COTTO SHOULD STAY RIGHT WHERE HE IS
AND NOT BUDGE ON HIS PRINCIPLES.
IF PACQUIAO DOES NOT LIKE THAT, THEN TELL HIM TO GO SOME WHERE ELSE. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A GREAT MAN SO WHERE WHO WANTS TO FIGHT MIGUEL COTTO AT 147.
Am I the only one on the planet not interested in watching a pacquio vs. cotto fight? For one thing, Cotto should fight Clottey again in a much needed rematch. He got an early christmas gift with the decision he was awarded against Clottey. I wasn’t interested in the pacquio vs. Hatton fight either, because Hatton is a one dimensional fighter. He tries to grab/hold and rough house his opponent. His only other tactic is to walk head first into punches which had him taking a nap in the ring last I saw. I told a co-worker what would happen and it did. I want to see a fight with two great fighters, each with something to lose, and each with a good skill set. Mayweather vs. Mosley would be a great match up. Pacquiao vs. Marquez would also be good. If they meet at a catch weight, Pacquio vs. Mayweather would be great to watch as well.
Hec, my answer to your question is that Manny deserves to fight the guy that he wants. I’m not saying that he should cherry pick his opponents but would you consider a fair fight if Manny will fight Paul Williams as a welterweight?
We all know that Manny is the cashcow of boxing right now. Everybody wants to fight him to get money and popularity. I do beleive that if anybody wants to fight Manny, Manny and his opponent should fight in a catch weight that is fair to both boxers. Manny as a 140 lbs should gain 3 lbs more, And Miguel as a welterweight should drop 3 lbs. There should be a contract that states that whoever violates this condition should be penalised heavily.
If the people believe in God as Manny” fans believe in him, wow, this world could be a better place.
Wow…can’t believe some of you people think COTTO is washed up. Can’t wait till Nov. comes, its going to be the biggest fight of the year. And cotto will come out the winner. All you people are blind…..he was fighting with one eye. I will like to see anyone else fight with one eye and win. Not to many boxers out there that will. COTTo Over Pacman anyday….
just think back to before the cotto – margarito fight. there was no way that anyone in boxing would ever have thought that manny pacquiao would ever have even contemplated fighting the great miguel cotto. but now when there is a chance for this magnificent occasion to go ahead everyone seems to be trying their best to knock it. lets face it, none of us are professional boxers at this level. it would be a great fight. you all know it! so lets just hope for the sake of boxing, and all us fans, that they do reach an agreement to fight, that no one pulls out of the fight injured and that they put on a fine spectacle.
Loaded gloves or not, Margarito still humiliated Cotto big time. it’s acceptable if he got K.O by a cheating opponent, but he gave up. I dont think Cotto has a heart like Pacman, so I think Pacquiao has big chance on this one.
how is pac supposed to go after marquez or mayweather when they have a fight of their own. Pacmqn stated that he doesn’t want to wait for that fight result so he went after the best choice Cotto. And why the hell would he fight Paul Williams when he is a middle weight, the only possible way pac would fight him would be for Williams to come down to at least 145lbs. Oh wait then he woud be a shot weight drained fighter wouldn’t he.
if you think cotto look bloody against clottey. no one will recognised his face once he face pac.
donking, juan manuel marquez will never fight pac again he is too old and a win for pac would be seen as another graverobbing washout fighters. so pac would avoid marquez like a swineflu.
Nah don’t worry about it…if they weren’t rabid enough as it is, I think that this writer brings out the worst in them.
I know that you think Pac is over rated, but that’s what I enjoy about this site is the intellectual debate from true boxing fans. There’s a few who ruin it for every one though, not just Pac fans, but FMJ fans, JMM fans, Cotto fans. There’s a lot of like to debate using logic and facts, but there’s also a few who just run their mouth (or punch their keyboards) without thinking or reasoning for the sake of defending their favorite boxer, most of the time from their own nationality.
But, personally, I enjoy your comments as they make me think.
Nepster, please accept my apologies, it was a bit too long since a reasonable reply.
R.
Hey Donking! that split between Marquez & Paquiao will still be so unattractive to the Paquiao team LOL! The only way for JMM to qualify getting on the Pacman’s list is he beats Mayweather Mr. Perez. Wouldn’t that be so easy to reach for JMM…..”NOT”!!! You said: “If it were me, I would want to go after Marquez or the best welterweight in the division Paul Williams, not Cotto who still hasn’t proven that he’s the same fighter after his knockout loss to Antonio Margarito last year.”
What we think is if the Pacman was you, he’d probably go and get professional help.
Oh come on Realbox – not ALL Pac fans are rabid Pac fans that believe he’s unstoppable. That’s just not fair. There’s a few of us who just enjoy his fights, think he’s a good fighter with both strengths and weaknesses, and we root for him whenever he gets in the ring. There’s nothing wrong with that.
BTW – Money Mayweather and Marquez’s fight has been postponed until Mayweather gets Dr’s clearance that he can train again. After that. They’re thinking September I think.
Anyone know what happened to Money/Marquez bout?
Donking, you take the prize for the stupidest entry in a boxing forum, hell you even beat some of the 4chan tards.
It is obvious that NOBODY went to see the Marquez/Diaz, or Marquez/Casamayor bouts right?… Oh, i get it, you guys really don’t know absolutely ANYTHING about boxing because the only fights you attend/watch are pac’s fights, so you can’t really weigh in with anything that makes a single drop of sense, i guess i should have started to ignore pac fans comments from the start but i tried to give you a chance to stop saying stupid shit, silly me.
Now GTFO.
Cotto is not impressed with Pacquaio? Ha ha ha… did anybody tell Cotto that Pacquaio wasn’t impressed by his beating from Clottey.
Cotto could take the fight for free, and send Manny to the lightweights again. Manny’s fan realy belive he is god.
PACQUIAO vs marquez III, the purse split is going to be 99%-1%.
PACQUIAO recieves the 99% of the split because he is the only draw.
the 35% for cotto is actually very generous since cotto is not even a PPV draw but way more profitable than marquez.
Hey! latinamerica it’s big and we have a lot of excellent writers , it just that Manuel can’t deal with Manny.
It’s just occurred to me, why might a latin American journalist want to diss Paquiao hmmm? Feeling a little bitter Manuela?
The last two fights not impressive!! Ballooning to an unnatural weight to face a legend in his own weight class and completely destroying him. Knocking out Hatton in the 2nd round, completely dominating the fight. I gotta ask the question did this moron actually watch the fights? I don’t think there’s a single boxer at the moment who’s fought the caliber of fighters that Pacquiao has, and who’s also willing to make various weight classes to prove he’s the best.
And why might he not be chasing Marquez or Mayweather for his next fight? Easy answer Perez, they’ve already got a fight lined up, AGAINST EACH OTHER! God forbid he goes after a world champion in a division much higher than his own natural weight (also ranked number 6 P4P, ahead of Williams may i add), cause that’s gonna be a breeze.
I agree, I don’t now why people insist in Paul Williams, he is the one to decide to go up to super welterweights.
Sick and tired of this Paul William Stuff! if Paul Willaim so good, why not move to middle weight and fight Kelly Pavik? His 6′2, so why not fight the bigger guy? And beside, I really wanted to see this 2guy fight each other Hehehe. Pac and William, 7 inch differential in height!!!!not gonna happen.
I still think if Mayweather beats Marquez, he should have to beat Mosley first to earn his shot at Manny!, if not, let Manny fight Mosley first, while Mayweather can sit it out, and fight another smaller blown up fighter….
Then make sure Pacman gets a 60% split of the purse! hopefully that will damage mayweathers ego suffieienctly!
After that fight, hopefully one of the 140 pound guys will have proven themselves worthy to fight Manny!, then manny can retire….4 more fights..
Paul Williams ain’t no damn middle weight, he can’t sit around waiting on fights in welterweight when people are not wanting to fight him. The welterweight is the best in boxing but yet he can’t get no fight. If Cotto would have won his last fight with a knock, do you all think Pac would have taken that fight, Do think so. Even though Cotto didn’t look to good in the last fight, Clottey ain’t a sorry boxing, so he did beat good boxer, so Cotto is fighting good boxers at the time where they are not drained.
Pacquiao would have scored 2 wins against JMM if one of the judges scored the the 3 knockdowns correctly against JMM, remember? So what’s the point of giving JMM a rematch when he’s already beaten him twice before and who wants to see that fight anyway.
“he [Pacquiao] has two arms and so do I.”
Cotto
Manny, think that Cotto is the perfect match to enter on the welterweights it’s a mistake. He is gone send you back down to the featherweights. I think you really don’t understand what are you doing and your team it’s blind for the fame and money.
Funny how the article left out the wins versus Barrera (future hall of famer), Morales (future hall of famer), and Diaz (former champ), the fact that Manny dropped Marquez numerous times (why give him another match), made the Golden Boy quit on a stool, made Hatton look like a bum inside three rounds, and is facing a soon to be beat Cotto probably b/c the fact that Cotto already beat Mosley (why waste time). All this to set-up his retirement fight with the winner of the PBF vs. Marquez. Beautiful!!!
Winner 2 face Mayweather early next year…Hopefully. Bob Arum is a money grabber I f%$kin hate him…why choose 2 face Cotto when he didn’t look impressive?? It’s stupid….it’s exactly the same as what Pacman and Arum did with Hatton and Oscar previously…Arum and Pacman keep picking easy fights, Pacman would never fight an Oscar De La Hoya in his prime or the Ricky Hatton that Mayweather KO’d in 07…they both runnin scared of Mayweather or a rematch with Marquez..it’s so easy 2 see.
Dj, williams is a welter,light mid or middle becuase no one will fight him he has to move around the divisions.
lol…keep sleeping on cotto! he’s going to win by k.oin the 9th!!everone thinks cotto’s washed up but not even brick knuckle antonio margarito(cheating ass) could knock him out! yes he took a knee but thats it! cotto would have shane mosleyed that fool if he didnt cheat. cotto is going 2 shock alot of you’s!!!.
I say let both boxers’ fists do the talking.
If Cotto loses, will this Pacquiao-basher once again say that Cotto was shot going into the fight?
Hmmmm, I wonder what kind of excuse will we read
again.
Well, to whoever wrote this silly news, did you ever take into account that Pacquiao could have chosen cotto as his next fight he’s not impressed with cotto’s pperformance?
Perez you are an idiot always have been always will be….. how u still manage to get articles published on this website is beyond me, your addiction to pac-man is sick… and the best thing u can think of is paul williams? who is literally tiwice the size of pacquiao he may aswell fight vald and vitali while hes ther … its not even tht you are jelous and hate manny its the bullshit suggestions you come up with to get this guy to look bad….come on man seriously move on get another hobbie i dnt think boxing reporter is the right career path for you
Williams has not fought @welter for 4 fights!, he is not a welter anymore!
Mayweather needs to get to the back of the line, he REALLY needs to beat a top welter-ie Mosley, and not a blown up smaller guy – Hatton/Marquez before he earns his shot!
Even if he beat berto, at least he is a proper welter….
Cotto didnt look too good against clottey because he had 1 eye for 9 rounds! gees, give the guy a break, i would say tho, that he looked beatable, and he fades slightly in the later rounds, his game plan against margarito was all wrong, hence why he lost!
Pac will beat Cotto, probably by a lat round stoppage, thats if he can keep Cotto on the outside and not get caught on the ropes for the first 5 rounds..they both come forward and fight, so this will be fight of the year!
Mr Perez did you know that there is other boxers out there other thn Manny Pacquio you must realy hate him
manny should be fightin mosley thats that!!!!!!!!!!!
manny should be fighting mosley thats that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pacman vs the klitscho brothers. buwahahahaha
SORRY FOR THE TYPING MISTAKES! TYPING TOO FAST!
Hec,
P4P fighter means exactly what it says. A p4p fighter does not fight everyone. Someone who fights everyone is called a ring champion. The champion fights anyone who steps into the ring. Do you really expect Pacquiao to fight Klitschko for the p4p title? That’s why they came up with the fictitious title of p4p, meaning if a fighter weighed the same as another, they both would be judged based on skills. Since this is not possible, they try to match them up according to their abilities, assuming they have the same strength and weight, two components that play big roles in boxing. Once again, a p4p champion can’t fight everyone. Would it be fair for Klitschko to ask Pacquiao to gain 100 pounds to fight him for the title of p4p king? If Klitschko were the p4p king, would Mosley, Cotto, and Williams get a shot at fighting him? Would they ask Klitschko to lose 100 pounds so that they can fight him for the title? This whole thing about the p4p champion fighting everyone is insane. It’s not possible. That’s why there are weight divisions. That’s why there is no belt for the p4p king. It’s a fictitious title given to the boxer who has been the most impressive. Pacquiao is not fighting these fighters for the p4p title. They have to be matched evenly.
Suppose someone claimed you as the p4p title. How fair would it be to you to gain and lose weight to fight each person who challenges you. Did Pacquiao give himself the title? NO! Now that others claim him to be the p4p champ, does it mean he constantly has to gain and drop weight to fight each person who calls him out? First of all, he has the title. Who gives the other boxers the right to make him gain or lose weight? If they want to take the title from him, they can’t expect to have things in their terms. That’s just stupid. Think of it this way. Suppose you and your boys are good at basketball. Then you hear of a team that’s the best out there. They were given the title by all the spectators. Then you want to prove that you’re better. What are you going to do? Are you going to ask them to come to your court and play in front of your crowd, or are you going to challenge them at their court to prove that you and your boys are the best? Think about it. Why would they come to you when you don’t have the title? If you want their title, go to their court and silence their crowd. If you can do that, then you’ve proven yourself.
If these boxers want Manny’s title, they better go to his court. He’s calling the shots. He was given the title. At least Manny doesn’t make the fighters drop completely to his weight. He has always met them in between and has always moved up to the weight when challenging for a belt. Manny’s not fighting Cotto for his belt, so why should they fight at 147. People want to see this fight between a 140 pound fighter and a 147 pound fighter. How stupid would it be for them to fight at 140 for no belt? How stupid would it be to fight at 147 for no belt? That’s why they’re meeting in between. So enough with the p4p crap. Just be glad that these fights are happening.
Ask yourself the following questions? Why do you want Cotto and Mosley to fight Pacquiao at 147? Are they afraid of his speed and trying to slow him down? Are they trying to plump him up so that he can’t dodge their punches? You keep asking why Pacquiao is asking these fighters to lose a few pounds, yet you never ask why these fighters are asking him to gain so much weight. He’s asking them to fight at a weight he can reach. Why are you asking Pacquiao to fight at a weight that he can’t reach? Mosley knows that Pacquiao can’t reach 147. That’s why he agreed to fight him at any weight. Cotto doesn’t mind going down a few pounds because he knows that Pacquiao can’t reach 147. But, as a p4p champion, Pacquiao is MEETING them at the weight he can possibly reach. NOW THAT’S A P4P CHAMP TO ME!
stop doing dwn his win against hatton, he wasn’t shot. if you had seen more than hattons last 5 fights you would know he has always struggled with southpaws-eamonn maghee early in his career, collazzo later on. pacmans team knew this and exposed it.
well Boxing Fan as a Boxing Fan that you obviously are, wouldn’t you be mad that a so called Pound for Pound champion has to drain down his opponents in other to beat them? is that a p4p champ to you?
that doesn’t matter…a p4p champion will fight anybody, specially a current champion like Paul williams. Why did Pacquiao fight De La Hoya if fighting in the middleweight division was going to be a problem. Pacquiao is a cherry picker just like the other so called p4p king…guess who??? (Floyd Mayweather Jr)but don’t worry DJ, Pacman will never fight Williams because that would be the end of his spotlight and Bob Arum and Freddy Roach won’t let that happen unless Paul Williams comes down to a ridiculous weight were he’s weak enough for Pacquiao to pull another performance like the Oscar De La Hoya circus.
williams is a damn middle weight why would pack fight him thats stupid