Will Wladimir Get Any Credit for Beating Haye?
May 30th, 2009
By Chris Williams: David Haye accomplished a lot by talking his way into a title fight with IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko which is now set to take place three weeks from now on June 20th, at the Veltins Arena, in Gelsenkirchen, Germany. Haye, 28, is the equivalent of a person that talks their way into a job without the educational or experience needed to do well at the job.
It’s hard to argue with the non-British boxing fans, because they do have a point about Haye’s lack of solid work as a heavyweight going into his fight with Klitschko. Had Haye at least beaten a handful of quality heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin, Chris Arreola or Alexander Dimitrenko, it would be much easier to see him as a legitimate threat to Wladimir in their fight.
However, when the opportunity came for Haye to fight some heavyweights, Haye chose the weaker variety, taking on and beating Tomasz Bonin and Monte Barrett, neither of which did much in raising Haye’s worth in the eyes of non-British fans of the sport.
As such, if Wladimir goes out and immediately destroys Haye on June 20th, there will be the perception in the minds of some boxing fans – perhaps more than you might imagine – that Wladimir didn’t accomplish all that much of a feat due to Haye’s lack of prior experience at the heavyweight level.
This is partly Klitschko’s fault for bending under the pressure that Haye was putting him under in the media by Haye’s constant insults aimed at Wladimir’s ability and worth as a champion. It was a tried and true trick that Haye pulled on Wladimir to get him to get upset enough to give him the fight.
However, one could hardly blame Klitschko for taking the fight because in the three years that Wladimir has held the International Boxing Federation heavyweight strap, he’s been without a defining fight due to the lack of quality opposition in the heavyweight division during these three years.
Even now, there’s hardly all that many talented fighters outside of Wladimir, his brother Vitali Klitschko and perhaps one or two other heavyweights such as Alexander Povetkin and Alexander Dimitrenko. None of them are household names and don’t really interest hardcore boxing fans in the manner that Haye does.
However, Haye’s resume was accomplished at the cruiserweight level which you can pretty much dismiss altogether because of the huge size differences between the average cruiserweight and heavyweights like Wladimir and Vitali.
Without any real experience at heavyweight, Haye is effectively a fighter that is coming into the June 20th fight against Wladimir cold, without the proven record needed to make fans believe he is anything other than a fighter that likes to talk a great deal.
For those fans, it probably hardly matters how badly Wladimir beats Haye. He won’t get much credit for beating him because they feel that Haye had no business fighting for a heavyweight title in the first place given his lack of quality fights going into the bout with Klitschko.
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ADAM YOU’VE OUTDONE YOURSELF THIS TIME WHAT A CHUMP YOU ARE!!YOU NEED TO GET A GRIP ON REALITY COZ COME JUNE 20TH YOUR ADOPTED BOY IS GONNA BE TAKEING A NAP!!AS SOON AS THE HAYEMAKER CONNECTS WLAD’S REIGN IS OVER!!OH AND KEEP ON SLAGGING OFF US BRITS AND I’LL COME OVER TO YOUR GAFF AND SMASH THE GRANNY RIGHT OUTTA YA GOT IT BIRDBRAIN!!
JEFF LACY IS THE MOST OVER HYPED FIGHTER IN HISTORY WHERE IS HE FROM//////,,,,,,,AMERICA
Adam i usuall like the way you stick to your guns and show defiance against all the Brits who get angry at you for your comments.
But your showin yourself up a bit here.
to say he has earnt and proved nothing by cleanin up the Cruiserweight division while Roy Jones was a real champion and deserved his is a bit of a joke.
Keep to your usual points about him being glass chinned, too easy to hit, bad stamina, too small and out of his depth. All these points are atleast arguable. But dont try spit on what hes achieved already, he atleast deserves credit for what hes done up to this coming fight.
Haye unified the Cruiserweight Division, and thought he fancied a new challenge at HW.
As for not deserving the shot, maybe, but what does anyone do these days to deserve a title shot? How many contenderts did Vitali take out in his 4 year lay-off, he seemed to walk straight back into a title fight.
Its actually a joke how the rest of the HW’s out there seem to turn up to fight the klitschko’s with no intention of winning. At least haye will give it all he has.
No one cares about Wlad or Vitali, and this is why haye has the oportunity, the klitschko’s know he is the most bankable HW out there atm. I think HAye would stroll through 2-3 more HW fights anyway, with the division the way it is atm.
I for one hope that Haye DOES beat Wlad, im not saying it will be easy, Wlad is effective at what he does (jab), but he is sooo boring. i think HAye’s speed could kill though, and get him the victory.
Haye is the most exciting fighter in the HW division right now, and yes he sells tickets. Adam, dont know what youre chatting about, have you seen the ticket sales for the upcoming fight, 50,000 ish, how many sold for klitschko/rahman? 18,000 ish..? I wonder why everyone wants to go? becasue for once people might see a shock.
I just think Chris Williams is jealous america sucks balls right now at HW. x
i for one hope Haye comes out with the belts, sick of wlad and vitali dominating, and refusing to fight each other.
maybe heavyweight boxing might just have something worth talking about again.
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Adam your comment shows how much of a tosser you are and how little you no about boxing. If you have no idea what your talking about then why post comments?
Chris Williams you seriously need to get some solid facts before posting another article.
Roy Jones moving up to fight Ruiz wasn’t a big deal because Roy was a true champ and Ruiz was a fighter that nobody wanted to be a champ anyway.David Haye is a 22 fight hype job that hasn’t earned sht.He’s unified a dead division.Nobody has respect for David Haye mainly because he has faught absolutely nobody and nobody outside of the UK knows who the fk he is.His mouth coudn’t get him a payday so he moved up to Heavy and called out the real Champs.david Haye couldnt even sell 2,000 tickets in his own country to fight Barret.This is the Brits last hope and that’s funny.At least Arreola is fighting real Heavies.Hey Scott D.Your a fkn moron.Us Americans don’t hype our fighters like you Brits.You Brits almost got Hatton killed by hyping his sorry azz up and now your doing the same to Haye.You have nobody in boxing so you try to brag about every fighter you have till they come up against some good opposition,then their face down on the canvas like the hype job btches they are.Good Luck.
Or Roy jones fight ruiz , he never faught at heavyweight before you dont go about that do you ?
What about Pacquiao coming up from super-feather to fight for a lightweight title no one critises him or urango going up and fighting at welter to fight berto or taylor going up to super middle and fighting froch ? none of these fighters have had action in that weight and if so was minimal so why have a go a haye, why not give him credit for going after the best ?
Hayemaker go on fella smash him out.
Hayes not the first one to do this as ukansoodoff pointed out, they only show double standards when it suits them.Im not gonna slaunder the writers again because i think they removed my comments after making insulting remarks about one of the writers family.
It can only add to his credibilty if he beats haye and i think haye will get less credibilty for beating klitchsko.
Chris arreola??? lol dont make me laugh, what has that lump of lard acheived?? who has he beat??
Not one fighter on his record could get anywhere near a world title.
Someone touched on why you are so bitter about haye, you dont like it that he is actualy going to fight unlike tony thompson and hasim (punchbag rahman) tell me what rahman has done in the last few years to warrant a world shot?
without the education or experience needed to do well at the job, you jus described yourself there m8.
wlad was the one that gave david haye a title shot just for operning his mouth!it wasnt davids fault that he didnt have to fight anybody beforhand
And if Haye beats Wlad? What will you say?
If the fight goes the distance and Wlad wins on points UD or SD, what will you say then?
The only way your biased argument stands up is if Wlad takes Haye out within the first half of the fight, because if he doesn’t, the Haye will have more than earned his stripes.
If Haye was American you would be sucking him off, but he isn’t so all he gets is slated. Was Holyfield unworthy when he stepped up?
Out of all the Heavyweights you mentioned, only Dimitrenko is really a threat. Povetkin is nothing special, Arreola isn’t bad but arguably sits 20-30lbs heavier than he really should therefor making him slow.
I think your problem and many like you is that Haye hails from the UK and you hate the fact he has a shot where no American dares go.