Warren Sees Wladimir Beating Haye – News

By Chris Williams: Promoter Frank Warren believes that IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (52-3, 46 KOs) will beat David Haye (22-1, 21 KOs) in their title match on June 20th, at the Veltins Arena, in Gelsenkirchen, Germany, according to Setanta Sports. Warren feels that the 33-year-old 6’6” 245 pound Klitschko will “too big” for Haye and “too much of a boxer.”

Warren does feel that Wladimir is equally vulnerable in getting knocked out if he gets hit with one of Haye’s big shots in the fight. However, Warren points out Haye’s history of being susceptible to hard shots, bringing up Haye’s knockdowns by Jean Marc Mormeck, Carl Thompson and Monte Barrett.

The mention of Barrett is an interesting one, as many boxing fans, especially those from Britain, feel that Haye’s knockdown in the 5th round from a big left hook from Barrett was the result of a slip. However, many American fans see it as an authentic knockdown and feel that Barrett should have been given the win by a knockout when it took ages for Haye go get up after being dropped.

Having seen the fight many times myself at regular speed and in slow motion, the knockdown of Barrett seemed legitimate and the English referee appeared to blow the call when he ruled it a slip instead of a knockdown.

The mistake Barrett made was that after he dropped Haye, he added another left hook to the head while Haye was down. The second left hook wasn’t hard, though, and it seems that Haye was hurt by the first left that dropped him. After being knocked down, Haye would stand up briefly before having to take a knee on the canvas and clear his head.

Warren feels that Wladimir is too big of a fighter for Haye, who only recently moved up to heavyweight from the cruiserweight division in November 2008, selecting a journeyman heavyweight to fight in his first bout (the second time that Haye had fought at heavyweight in his career) rather than a top fighter.

Warren thinks that Haye keeps his hands to low when he fights, and feels that Klitschko will make Haye pay for his bad habit of not holding his guard up. Indeed, this is what many knowledgeable boxing experts have been saying about Haye for quite some time since he fought Barrett.

Haye has adopted some bad habits from his days as a cruiserweight where he was often the bigger fighter than his opponents and hasn’t changed them now that he’s fighting against bigger fighters in the heavyweight division.

Haye was able to get away with keeping his hands low in his fight with Barrett because Monte isn’t really a big puncher, but as you can see, it appears that Barrett hits hard enough to have caused Haye some problems. Moving up from Barrett to Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko is like moving to another division altogether.

You might as well call it the super heavyweight division because that’s what Wladimir and Vitali, super heavyweights. Haye has okay size at 6’3”, 215 lbs, but he’s not even close to being the size of the Klitschko brothers and other big heavyweights like Alexander Dimitrenko.

Powerful punchers like Mike Tyson may have proven to a certain extent that smaller fighters can compete at times with talented super heavyweights, but for the most part the larger heavyweight usually prevails. The 6’5” Lennox Lewis made it look easy in dominating Tyson at the end of his career, and perhaps he would have done the same even in Tyson’s youth. Haye doesn’t have Tyson’s power, head movement or ability to absorb a hard punch, so Haye has a formidable task ahead of him for June 20th.


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11 Responses to “Warren Sees Wladimir Beating Haye – News”

  • Muzza says:

    To add if Haye closers the gap and lands a bomb on Wlads chin then theres only one way the big man is going and its not up’

  • Muzza says:

    Very good points Doctor thanks for the stats they dont make good reading for Haye. Its gonna be hard going for David in this fight but all credit to him for taking the chance. I feel we will know whos gonna win this after the first round as Haye has to close the gap qickly and in doing so we will see exactly how Wlad combats it. If Wlad smothers Hayes attacks easily im sad to say it will be curtains for David. Looking forward to the fight good luck to both men.

  • Doctor says:

    Haye will almost certainly lose because he has never met anything remotely like Wladimir. 243 RDS experience, weight 244LBS 6’6″ 83% ko rate fought only HW and an Olympic Gold medallist.

    Haye has fought only 78 rds and only little men with often a low KO% Alexander Gurov had 72% KO rate every other fighter Haye has met is lower, and Gurov had lost 4 fights previously. Fragomeni gave Haye a bloody face and he is small with only a 35% KO rate, and poor old Abdoul went the distance with only a 23% Ko rate. Come on face it Haye has meet nobodies compared to this Behemoth. Carl Thompson had lost 6 times before Haye and has only a 62% rate. Barrett his only true HW opponent 49% and well past his sell by date. The facts are clear they speak for themselves. Great KO rate against what litte men with only low KO rates, not a great CV.
    Wlad by TKO.

  • cutman says:

    “Robotic, souless and heartless, semi-wrestling”. That’s what it takes to be champion and collect almost fifty KO’s on the way to the top of the heaveyweight pile? Or maybe Wladimir is in league with evil powers after selling his soul for the belt and the honors? Come on JJ you can do better than that. The guy is champ (Wladimir Klitschko) becuz he is good at what he does period!

  • novesen says:

    It would be great to watch Haye KO Klitschko and later unify the belts. However I really don’t see how he could possibly do anything against a great boxer like Wlad..

  • El guapo says:

    Fair article,but to suggest Lennox Lewis could dominate a prime Tyson is laughable.Chinny Lewis would be dealt with inside 6 rounds.2002 Tyson was a junkie alchoholic.Holmes and Spinks were better than Lewis…Between 1985-1989 no one could live with Tyson,not even Ali.

  • JJ says:

    of course cutman – you’ll have your spirits high as there will be a string of boring too death robotic, souless and heartless, semi-wrestling, hit him with the left bouts.

  • adam smith seaham.. says:

    sign rather…

  • zach white says:

    Considering I was actually at this fight and not just watching grainy youtube clips, I think my opinion has a bit of credit in whether Haye was downed by Barret or not.
    Haye almost slipped in the ring about 10 seconds before he takes the illegal shot!!!! Barrett was a very desperate fighter and on the verge of being ko’d himself and was looking to try and damage or hurt Haye in anyway possibkle by that time, He failed and got his ass handed to him.

  • cutman says:

    Haye will go down and our spirits will go up.

  • Mike says:

    Regardless of whether it was or not the reason haye was hurt is because barret clocked him with another shot after he went down which is ILLEGAL so it makes no difference.

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