Mosley Wants Pacquiao Fight, But Is Manny Interested?
May 30th, 2009
By Jason Kim: WBA welterweight champion Shane Mosley called out Manny Pacquiao yesterday telling him that he’s willing to fight him at his “catch weight” of whatever weight that Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach come up with for a fight. However, it’s unknown whether Pacquiao will want to fight him now since he’s said that he wants to wait on the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight and take the winner of that fight next.
Now, it looks as if Mosley has changed his tune and is agreeable to take the fight, but the question is whether Pacquiao is interested in taking the fight. This would be a very tough fight for Pacquiao to take, because he would likely not be able to knock the tough-chinned Mosley out.
And if Pacquiao couldn’t score a knockout over Mosley, then Manny could find himself in a situation where he might lose the fight and end up messing up his chance for a huge payday against the winner of Mayweather vs. Marquez.
A fight against Mosley would be a huge fight as well, but not nearly as big as getting the winner of Marquez-Mayweather, obviously. Pacquiao has shown himself to be pretty fearless in the past about taking on dangerous opponents but in this case I don’t know whether this would be his call or not.
His promoter Bob Arum would be the one to pull the trigger on this bout, and if he’s interested in Pacquiao taking this fight then there’s a good chance that we will be seeing Pacquiao and Mosley very shortly. It’s a obviously a tempting bout for Pacquiao and his management team to take, because if they can stay busy and get a huge payday against Mosley and then follow it up with a fight against Mayweather or Marquez, then it will be a huge windfall for Pacquiao.
The risk, though, is the real problem for Pacquiao, because unless they force Mosley’s hand by requesting that he comes in at 140 or maybe even lower than that, Mosley may end up being too strong for Pacquiao to handle.
That would be disastrous for Pacquiao, likely ending his run of big PPV events for awhile depending on how badly he’s beaten by Mosley. However, on the flip side, if Mayweather or Marquez turn around and beat Pacquiao, then it could be the exact same thing.
Many people feel that Mayweather will be too big, slick and strong for Pacquiao to beat and are predicting that Manny will lose to him when the time comes for them to fight. Pacquiao has already struggled with Marquez on two occasions, fighting to a draw in the first fight and then beating him in the 2nd fight in 2008.
Few people feel that Pacquiao actually won the second bout, however. Pacquiao’s luck might run out in a third fight. Usually judges get things right on the third shot and they’ll likely not want to mess things up and score it badly again.
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All the Pac haters who say Pac should fight Mosley at 147…newsflash, he’s never fought anyone officially weighing 147. He fought ODLH at 142! Cathweights are to EVEN out the playing field. Pound for Pound means just that…take boxer’s skills, divide by his natural weight, and whoever has the MOST skill and is the best is the “Pound for Pound”. If Manny has to fight someone weighing 160 come fight night, and he’s coming in at 147, obviously 13 pounds is a BIG disadvantage. Mosley would have a much greater advantage and would not prove his Pound for Pound, because he significantly has MUCH more “pounds” on him. Nobody is giving crap for JMM asking Floyd to come down to 144. Besides, Mosley’s the one chasing Pac, so why should Pac have to put on extra pounds, when it’s obvious he’s at his peak at 140-142?
No need to justify your fast typing to me, im just jealous!!!
I understand your reasons behind the many examples, there are a select few Pac haters on here who use any excuse to discredit his achievements, and they surface mainly in Manuel Perez’s articles. Its a shame considering he hasn’t asked to be branded the best, just so happens he is.
p4p…what a marketing tool! it only creates hype for the nonintellect boxing viewers..
Scott D, I apologize. I get caught up in things. I guess I’m a pretty fast typer. There are shorter ways to make a point but the evidence behind these points make it harder for morons to discredit fighters who have worked very hard to become what they are. By providing the evidence, it becomes a difficult task to argue back or to continue discrediting fighters. I’m a Manny fan and I can’t stand people putting him down. He’s done nothing but produce results, yet he’s always put down. He didn’t ask for the p4p title, he was given the title. Obviously there are people who feel the same way I do. Sorry, but the long winded arguments are intended for those who don’t know much about boxing and often write without knowing the facts.
There are weight classes because fighters are not the same size. Pacman grew to what is probably his current natural weight of 130 but for mega $ he moved to 147 and then 140 to face a natuarlly bigger man. That shows guts.
Please tell me, how many fighters out there keep movin up to meet bigger men. Fatman did it twice, got rocked by Collazo and went back down but PBF called him out and he went back up and got KOed.
Pavlik also went up and got schooled by Hopkins. Mosley went up and lost to Winky twice but came back to his now natural welter class. The Greats can do it but there is a risk.
Pacman does not have to keep moving up to prove himself. I also would hate to see Mosley drain to make 143-144 so scrap such fights if it may mean one man is at a disadvantage. P4P king does not men you can beat everybody, it means that if it was possible for everyone to be the same weight that Pacman is king.
When Chavez, Sweet P, Oscar, Super Roy and PBF had the title, did everyone clamour for them to keep moving up and fighters bigger guys at huge weight difference? No? Let’s forget the mythical title and let guys fight in their own class. If two guys want to go at it, let them decide what they think is fair.
If PBF can go down to fight Marquez, why does Pacman have to go up to fight Mosley? Why does PBF not go up and fight Pavlik. And why do Cotto & Mosley not go up and fight Pavlik and Froch? This madness does not stop if you follow that logic. I appreciate some fighters have more heart than others and seek bigger challenges. In such cases if he choses to challenge a big man he is the one to move up. If a big man challenges he should cme down, if not forget it. Pick on your own size. Ali never called out L-Heavies but over the years many have moved up to challenge for the heavy title. So let the basic rules apply & let us be fair to all parties.
Mosley is too strong for Pacman at 147 and he may be too weak at his age to get down to 144.
PBF is young enough to move to J-Middle or drop to Jr Light. History has shown that he has made huge $ demands or just ducked Williams, Mosley, Margarcheetah, Cotto& Clottey. Meanwhile he gets on TV saying these guys had losses, but so does JMM. Why? Because these guys have dared to take on each other and other tough guys. Until you do, I will never again be a PBF fan.
Brahma Bull, that’s a long winded way to make a point, I must apologize, I didn’t make it to the end!!
I do agree with you. I made the same point in another similar article somewhere around here!!! Mosley wants Pac, Pacs in charge. I still hope it happens at a competitive weight for both.
First of all, Mosley called out Pqcquiao. If he’s calling him out, there’s obviously something he wants to prove. If you call someone out, you’re in no position to come up with the rules. It’s Mosley who wants Pacquiao, not the other way around. Should Pacquiao move up to fight Klitschko if he calls him out? Second of all, Manny is a true p4p king. When he called out Diaz and Hatton, he wanted their belts. Pacquiao moved up to their weight to fight them. Manny never wanted Mosley’s belt. Mosley wants Manny’s title. If he wants Manny’s title, Mosley needs to move down to Pacquiao’s weight. He’s realized that now. That’s why there’s an article saying that Mosley will fight Pacquiao at any weight. Mosley is the champ but hasn’t called out a bigger man. He didn’t offer to move up to 160 or more to fight the champs there. But yet, Mosley wanted Pacquiao to move up to a higher weight. He wants a smaller man to gain weight to prove that he’s better than the smaller man. What kind of champ is that? At least Manny offered to meet halfway. It’s Manny who’s doing all the moving while all the other champs sit content at their weight class. If Mosley wants to prove that he’s the p4p champ, he better start moving around. There’s a world of competition not too far from his weight class. So don’t talk about Pacquiao choosing. He’s moved around too much. Let Mosley start. If Mosley doesn’t start, then everyone will know that Mosley is only a champ at 147 and nothing else. Pacquiao’s moved up and down. It makes sense. You’ll get nowhere in life if you don’t start moving. Mosley hasn’t moved anywhere. Therefore, he won’t get any closer to being the p4p champ. If Mosley stays where he’s at, his status will stay where it’s at, that being the champ at 147 and only 147. Now, Manny will fight Mosley if they both move. If you don’t call that fair, then what is? Is it fair for Pacquiao to move up 7 pounds while it’s Mosley who’s challenging him. Think about it this way. If you’re a king and wanted to conquer someone’s land, will you wait for them to attack you and defeat them or will you go to that land and start conquering? If Mosley wants to conquer Pacquiao, he better start moving. I don’t recall Pacquiao ever having the interest for Mosley like he does Mayweather. I’m sure if Pacquiao calls out Mayweather, Pacquiao will definitely move up. Pacquiao is a true boxer, like Marquez. That’s why these two guys are #1 and #2 because they move around to fight others that they call out. Marquez called out Mayweather and then moved up in weight. Pacquiao called out Hatton for his belt and moved to 140. If Mosley is calling out Pacquiao, he better move down. If not, don’t call out someone if you’re not willing to do the same thing, which is to move in weight.
There no chance in hell that roach will let pac fight Shane at 147lb
Unlike when Oscar stepped in the ring against Manny,Oscar comin in the ring on fight night lighter than the so called smaller man(yeh,there was nothing wrong with that picture)…
Shane at welter(147)against Margo weighed in at 147 than on fight night was 160lbs like a wrecking machine..
Its just funny how they call someone the pound for pound but that some1 will only fight selected fighters at 147lbs.
Can any1 tell me who that some1 is?…
its all a damn con from arum roach and pacman. oh we’ll fight the best but only on our terms and at our weight. suck my twanger freddy roach fight mosley at 147 and shut up. why should he come down if anything manny should be coming to his weight for a title fight. but no there only interested in beating weight drained names to add to his resume without actually taking the real risks for titles at 147 which is what its about. i just hope iif it happens its done proper at 147 so Shane can kill him but at 142 say then thats just crazy for shane and should actually be illegal as hes fighting totally dehydrated. but at 147 thers only one outcome pacquiao never fighting again
If the rumours are true regarding Manny fighting again in October, then there is very little hope it will be against the winner of the Marquez vs Mayweather fight, its just to soon.
There seems to be three real options for Pac now, Mosley, Cotto and Valero. Mosley is willing to drop down to a catch weight, but under 143/144 wont be achievable whilst keeping strength, and he is by far the most profitable of the three.
I for some reason, see Arum opting for Valero though and pushing it as Pac against an unbeaten KO specialist. It would draw in plenty viewers who dont know boxing all that well and probably incite Perez into months worth of Pac bashing!!!
I hope Arum lets Pac take the risk with Mosley, it would be a close and interesting match up.
Shane is going to be too big for Pacquiao or even Mayweather, and it would be in Arum’s best interest to wait for the Mayweather or Marquez result. If Mayweather will not agree to the split of 50/50, then Manny can still fight Marquez, for the biggest Mexico/Filiplno fight of the year.
It would be a great fight and one that would definitly produce some fireworks with both their all action styles. Screw mayweather he just wants easy fights and to be rich not defining fights and to be remembered as one of the greats.
Everybody wants a fight with Pacquiao. His manager must pick one with the most money and what’s best for Manny’s career. Glenn.. Manny was fighting at 130 last year. Mosley started at 132 lbs 20 yrs ago. Arum and F. Roach respects the strength and abilities of Mosley. Manny can fight Mosley.. but in due time. Why don’t you asked Mayweather the same question? He did not fight Mosley. He is waiting until Mosley is 1,000 yrs old so he will win.
Also, perez sucks balls. Try getting a neutral perspective, you manny hating, biased prick. x
Haha. Yeah lets all wait to hear Perez’s unbiased opinion. If nothing else, it should be entertaining. x
i agree with glenn.
im waiting for the perez take on it.
what is this catch weight all about? manny fought de la hoya at 147lbs, so much for being best P4P
Mosley should NOT take this fight-if it’s under 143lbs. too risky for Mosley to have weight drain.,