Marquez Won’t Be Getting a Third Fight with Pacquiao If Juan Loses to Mayweather
May 22nd, 2009
By Eric Thomas: The latest word on a potential third rubber match between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez looks as if it won’t be happening if Marquez loses to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in their July 18th according to an article from the LA Times. Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum doesn’t see the value in Pacquiao fighting Marquez if Juan is beaten by Mayweather, because a loss would mean that a fight with Juan wouldn’t be a mega fight, and that is what Pacquiao is interested in at this point in his career.
In that fight, Marquez dominated most of the rounds of the fight and looked to be on his way to winning by a decisive 12 round decision when Marquez was dropped in the 11th by Pacquiao. Even with the knockdown, Marquez appeared to win by one to two rounds, but the judges’ ended up giving it to the more popular fighter.
Neither Pacquiao or Marquez figure to beat Mayweather because of their size disadvantage, which is what makes it so disappointing that Marquez won’t be getting a rematch with Pacquiao if he’s defeated by Mayweather.
Pacquiao may soon be finding himself on the losing end of the stick against Mayweather as well, so what is Pacquiao and Arum going to be doing then? I can’t imagine that Pacquiao would still be getting mega fights if he’s soundly beaten by Mayweather.
However, the boxing public are often very loyal to their hero’s and they could very well keep flocking o see Pacquiao fight for some time to come regardless of how often he’s beaten. It would seem likely that Arum will try and set up fights with Shane Mosley or more specifically Miguel Cotton rather than to give Marquez a much needed shot against Pacquiao.
Based on reports that have come out recently, Pacquiao is supposedly thinking about retiring after one or two more fights, but that seems highly unlikely. Win or lose, Pacquiao will probably keep fighting for as long as he can maybe as long another four to five years if he’s still mostly successful.
The money is too good and Pacquiao has a lot of responsibilities in his homeland as a national hero to give up the sport so soon if he’s still even remotely successful. My guess is that Pacquiao may end up fighting Marquez in the future despite what his current promoter says he will.
If Pacquiao fails to fight Marquez one more time it will be Manny who will suffer for it, because many of the more knowledgeable boxing fans will see Pacquiao as ducking Marquez.
It wouldn’t be the first time that a fighter has done this before, but thus far Pacquiao has been immune to this claim because he’s always been willing to fight the best. Let’s hope Pacquiao does the right thing regardless of whether or not Marquez is beaten by Mayweather on July 18th.
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JMM is not going to beat FMJ!!! Pacman will demolish FMJ, it’s not going to matter if FMJ is a bigger fighter, especially since he will be fighting Manny. Manny is too fast for any of the “elite” fighters in the game right now. Manny is in his prime and most of the fighter that are lined up to fight him are on the decline or they just don’t have the tools to take Pacman out. Even if Pacman and JMM were to fight the results would be completely different ending with JMM flat on his back unconcious. Stop the hate!!!
JMM didnt ran away Bob Arum made a horrible offer to jmm for a rematch, wanted to pay JMM peanuts, even if mayweather beats JMM he will do the same to manny. Then JMM and Manny will win titles at 140 and face each other again for supremacy at 140.
‘profesional journalist experts….of what’? Hope Pac and co. of boxers pray harder these kind of ‘experts’ dont get to be ringside judges. SORE LOSERS! Wanna c d 3rd fight? Rake in d $£€¥, money is d name of d game. Or else go join d olympics! No money no talk.
People saying Manny ducking Marquez in case Marquez loses are delusionals.
First, Marquez chooses his path in fighting Mayweather and he should suffer the consequence of the result. Manny’s career doesn’t evolve in JMM but rather, looks like JMM is. He is so “IN LOVE” with Manny! FACT!
With or without JMM, Manny will not suffer. Already an ATG and is now on the threshold of further improving his ranking. Lol, Marquez were given two chances but what he did was to visit the canvas on the two fights as if it is his highlight reels on his fight with Manny Pacquiao.
And no, knowledgeable boxing fans know the truth. There was an error on the first fight favoring JMM and a close 2nd fight favoring Manny.
No need to beat Marquez if he loses to Floyd. Pacquiao has beaten him twice already. Pac has other options like fighting Mosley, Floyd or Cotto.
they say styles make fights well pacman stands more chance against floyd in my opinion.though there 2 fights were close pacmans speed and movement will give floyd problems.marquez is a class act but floyd is something special and if he’s on his a game will win by a wide points decision.marquez must hope floyd’s near 2 year absense might make him ring rusty then maybe he could cause an upset but it’s highly unlikely!!!
Good commemts Brahma Bull.
I think it is also a matter of perspective. We are so used to seeing Pacquiao knockout his opponents that for the fans of Marquez, the fact that JMM managed to avoid getting KOd was a victory. In Don Omar’s mind, Pacquiao has to KO Marquez to be considered the winner. Sorry Don, that’s not how boxing works.
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marquez vs. pac III needs to happen to settle the score and for true competetive legacy reasons. if pac does not his ledger will always have an asterik w/marquez name on it. same excuse, yet official, by all the pacman zealous nuthuggers that he floored jmm 4x, but in those 24 rounds jmm won the majority of those rounds as most professional journalist experts had marquez winning in their concensus.
Pacquiao is a very good fighter no doubt about it, but why he don’t want to fight against JMM? is he afraid?. If he really want to prove that he is the best pound for pound, he need not just fight against JMM but knock him out, I don’t think he can do that. He already lost 2 times against Marquez and for “some reason” the first fight was a tight and the second he won by split decision. If Pacman want to shut my mouth he need to fight and knock out Marquez, and he CAN NOT DO THAT.
I am a huge Pacman fan but if he does not fight JMM to settle the score, I will be very shocked. Like all exceptionally great athletes he has an ego which has to be satisfied. Super Roy went up to heavyweight but because Tarver kept showing up at all his fights, his ego got to him.
He drained himself to drop off way too many lbs of muscle. Tarver by the way said iRoy used that as an excuse but when he lost to Hopkins, he said it was from losing his muscle from Rocky.
Both fights were great and very close, but I feel Pacman won with the knockdowns the clincher. And instead of PBF, JMM should fight Pacman. Let PBF fight Clottey, Mosley, Williams & Cotto who are the same division. Give us great fights between same size guys. After cleaning out the division and if he is getting older and bigger, then you can move up. But there is too much controversy over who is getting the advantage when divisions collide. In the old days, Sugar Ray Robinson and Hammerin Hank Armstrong gave up lots of weight to fight bigger guys. An guees what? They won their fair share of undersized fights. With only one champion, they could not pick the more vulnerable champ because of size or age etc. So there was no dispute over who was the best. Their egos and desire to prove it made them fight, not once, but sometimes 3, 4 or 5 times. Case closed!
you are all right.. pacman is afraid of jmm…you guys just dont listen.. pacman will fight anyone as long as his promoter say. even if you put extra plaster on jmm. he will not win against pacman. if jmm is such a good fighter he would have knock pacman on the second match. instead he got floored..what does that tell you. jmm is better than pacman. you people are all blind.. or just bec pacman is not mexican’ts
If marquez loses to Floyd then floyd will have an easier time with Manny. Jmm is a smarter boxer and can adapt, Manny cant. Floyd and Jmm can adapt while they are boxing, manny has to wait till the round is over and get told what to do. There will be a 3 fight between jmm and manny either cuz jmm beats floyd or cuz floyd beats both fighters and want a final big paycheck. For the record I never liked Bob Arum he said Jmm needs to fight Valero to get to manny WHY!!! There was nobody above JMM besides Manny, if he defeated Valero would have that put him on top??? I dont think so. Even Golden boy promotions does better than Arum PPV. Pavlik vs Mora, Cotto vs Jennings on PPV??? GBP did mosley vs margarito, and Diaz vs marquez on regular HBO.
Paquai is afraid of course, they are different styles. he knows Marquez will beat him, he did it the last 2 times. Mayweather is over rated,
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The reason Arum doesnt want another Pacquiao vs Marquez is because Marquez seems to have Pacs number. Another fight and another possible split decision/dodgy decision will do nothing for Pacs stock.
There isnt any reason other than that seeing as the fans want this fight, so it cant be classed as financially stupid, even if Marquez loses to Mayweather. If its a sound early KO for Mayweather, then maybe it wouldnt be worth it, but if Marquez goes the distance, there is no shame for Marquez.
Mr. Eric Thomas,
You did’nt know why Bob Arum will not be interested on that rubber matched between Pacquiao and Marquez? It’s so simple, business!!!!
If you’re a boxing promoter liked DLH, Don King, Bob Arum and etc,the same thing you will do!!!
Are you nuts putting your ass on the line without a hefty profit? I don’t think so!
Neither Pacquiao nor JMM has anything to lose in fighting Floyd. It would be embarrassing if Floyd loses. If the smaller fighter loses he could say Floyd is just too big, and it doesn’t do any good for Floyd either because he beat a fighter that doesn’t belong in his weight class. How can he call himself P4P king.
I THINK MARQUEZ AND PACMAN SHOULD FIGHT ANYWAY CONSIDERING THEY BOTH LOSE TO MAYWEATHER.I MEAN BOTH ARE SMALLER THAN MAYWEATHER TO BE EXACT MAYWEATHER HAS NOTHING TO TO PROVE IN FIGHTING EIATHER ONE OF THESE MEN THEN NATURALLY BEING THE BIGGER MAN.I SAY THEY ARE BOTH LITTLE BIG MEN WITH LOTS OF HEART WHAT BOXING FAN WOULDNT WANT TO SEE THESE TWO TRUE WARRIORS GO AT IT ONCE MORE.
pacquiao has been avoiding marquez because he knows its high risk, its as if he was saying to the fans, let me get rich first or richer and then ill take a risk against marquez! buy i need to become a millionair first.
You got it right if Marquez loses to Floyd Jr then businesswise Pacquiao would go for broke to fight Mayweather because there is prestige and big money involved here and if it does happened it might as well be the last fight of Manny before retiring and enjoying his hard earned money. So its goodbye to Marquez but he has a lot to thank Pacquiao for in chasing him he beat 2 great lightweight champions and now he is facing Mayweather that could turn out to be a megafight.
Pacquiao is a team player. He’ll fight whoever he and his management team agree to fight.