Haye Looking Over-Muscled and Slow in Training

By Chris Williams: Just as I thought he would, former cruiserweight champion of the world David Haye (22-1, 21 KOs) is looking over-muscled, slow and ponderous in recent video of him training for his huge mega fight with IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko (52-3, 46 KOs) with only three weeks to go before their fight at the Veltins Arena, in Gelsengirchen, Germany.

It looks as if Haye has been working steadily at adding muscle to his small 215 pound frame so that he could bulk up to try and compete with the huge 245 pound Klitschko for their fight in three weeks. However, instead of making Haye appear more prepared to meet the champion of three years, it appears to have made Haye much slower in moving and punching than he was before adding the weight.

It’s unknown how much weight that Haye has put on but it looks as if it’s at least 10 or pounds judging by his muscle bound physique. I had a feeling that this was going to be a problem for Haye when I saw him as a cruiserweight, because back then he already looked as muscular as he could get without becoming slow and constricted from too many muscles for his small frame.

The problem with Haye is that he doesn’t have the proper frame for the heavyweight division and is really a more of a blown of light heavyweight that has been competing at cruiserweight. Without the proper bone structure as a heavyweight, when Haye puts on extra weight, he adds to his already over-muscular physique which makes him slower, more tank-like than before.

It might help Haye in a short fight of say three rounds, but if the fight goes beyond three rounds, Haye is going to be like an over-muscled body builder gasping for breath and totally gassed out while moving around the ring against Wladimir.

I suppose Haye has no other choice but to add muscle to his small frame, because if he attempts to fight Wladimir weighing only 215, Haye is going to be getting thrown around the ring each time he’s hit by one of Klitschko’s big shots. However, it might be better for Haye to trim down to 210 or 205 rather than to move up in weight, because even at 215, Haye was too muscular and slow for his own good.

Haye looked bad in his fight against Monte Barrett and appeared much slower than he was a cruiserweight. I’d say the extra 15 pounds that Haye put on did exactly nothing for him other than having the effect of tying extra weights to his body and slowing him down. When bigger heavyweights put on muscle it often makes them better.

However, with Haye judging by the Barrett fight and his recent training video, he looks as if he’s the equivalent of a fat person in a muscular suit. In case people aren’t aware of this, there’s an optimal amount of muscle that a fighter can put on before they become muscle bound and slow.

When a fighter like Haye has reached that point, they’re pretty much hurting themselves by putting on any additional muscle. In the case of Haye, I think he reached that point in his Barrett fight and if he goes out there against Wladimir on the 20th looking like the blister bag that I just saw in the video, Haye can kiss goodbye any chance that he had hoped to have in capturing Wladimir’s titles.

I think Haye needs to take off all that useless muscle and get down to 205 and try to beat Wladimir with speed rather than muscle. Against Barrett, Haye was a no better puncher than he was against Enzo Maccarinelli as a cruiserweight. Haye was slower and less effective. Being slow will get him knocked out against Klitschko.


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7 Responses to “Haye Looking Over-Muscled and Slow in Training”

  • Liam says:

    Even if Haye were steamlined, and on rollerblades, he would still lose to Vald.

    Why should vlad alter his style to fight Haye!! keep him on the end of his left hand, slam home the rights, then tie Haye up,lean on him and wear him down.

    Haye out of there by rd:6.

  • Ukansodoff says:

    JJ I saw the training clips on SkySports news. Im sure you could find the vids on their website or Youtube are likely to have them now too.

    Theres no doubt hes guna be fast as ever and will be lookin to hit as hard as ever, hes not screwed up on his strong points.

  • gav bridges says:

    A few salien points to be made here ;
    There really is no point in a boxer, in any weight class, leaving their best work ‘in the gym’, as has often been the case with many British fighters of the past in making a serious jump in class. As training goes, Hayes team have always worked on a scientific approach, honed to peak at the time of the fight, and I see no reason to see anything different on this occasion- in fact, with this bout looming close I wouldnt be surprised if he is on a program to peak the moment he enters the ring!

    And another point which Mr. Williams doesn’t seem to want to mention is how many fighters break their backs in training when a camera is pointed in their direction? Why show your foe the weapons in your arsenal?

    I thank Mr. Williams for raising the Haye subject as frequently as he does, it just goes to further reinforce Manny Stewards point that Haye has brought some much-needed life to an ailing division (and dare I say, an ailing journo’s contributions?)

  • JJ says:

    Hi Uansodoff – where I can find these training viedeos?
    and by the way – did anyone see Lennox training video before Tyson match? He looked like in the slow motion.

  • Hayemaker says:

    Lol

    What about when wlad was carried out 3 times after being knocked out by nobodys?

    Wk only fights old slow men, has beens or never will be’s – thompson, rahman , igbragimov, ray austin , calvin brock, brewster (who knocked him out in the first fight.)

  • BelowtheBelt says:

    ‘The problem with Haye is that he doesn’t have the proper frame for the heavyweight division and is really a more of a blown of light heavyweight that ‘.

    Chris, you are talking utter BS ! The problem for haye is that his frame IS that of a heavyweight who boiled down to fight at Cruiser ! Man, get you facts straight …
    Haye’s natural frame is massive and if you can’t see that, then you have no business ever writing on a site like this !
    As regards bulk, I think what you are seeing is a natural cosequence of Haye not having to boil down to make a lower weight than he was genetically suited to. Fine, if had put on 2 stone or more, I would be concerned, becuase to gain so much weight that quickly generally means either you’ve put on a lot of ‘intra-muscular’ fat or you have used illegal substances to achieve quick build !
    Haye putting on around a stone is what I would of expected fully … it won;t slow him down greatly and he will be as fast as he was more or less.
    For the record, Haye will stand a good chance in this fight of stopping Wlad for the first 3/4 rounds. If he doesn’t do it in that time, I expect Wlad to stop an exhausted Haye, who has both a slightly dodgey engine to go with his suspect chin. Although, to be fair, I think Wlad has the biggest glass jaw of the two – and this may well be the deciding factor early on.
    However, should Haye beat Wlad then he would do well to avoid his brother Vitali. Vitali is far stronger than Wlad with a rock solid chin – a bad combination for Haye at this early stage of his heavyweight career.

  • Hayemaker says:

    Come on what pills are you taking? Haye came in at 15 1/2 stone for the barrett fight which by the way he knocked him over 5 times! Haye has always said he isnt going to lose his speed so he wont come in over 15 1/2 – 16 stone which i think is perfect.

    You are just another haye hater with no clue.

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