Mayweather Jr. vs. Mosley Coming Up? Don’t Bet On It!
January 25th, 2009
By Eric Thomas: After Shane Mosley pulled off a huge upset by stopping WBA welterweight champion Antonio Margarito in the 9th round on Saturday night, it’s suddenly re-energized Mosley’s career and brought him some much needed popularity that has been missing from his career for the past six years or so since he was first defeated by Vernon Forrest. The natural assumption is to want to pair him up with the now retired Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a mega bout that would make both fighters millions of dollars.
He the last thing he seemed to want was to step foot back in the ring for some serious training against a good fighter like Mosley. I do see him coming back eventually, but only after he’s depleted much more of his money and is in need of cash. I doubt he would want to come back for a fight against Mosley, though.
Mosley pulled off a good win in defeating Margarito, there’s no doubt about it, but no one is mistaking Mosley for being the number #1 pound for pound fighter in all of boxing. That title still rests with Manny Pacquiao, who earned it the hard way by beating great fighters like Oscar De La Hoya and Juan Manuel Marquez. Mayweather is the type of fighter that needs big goals to get him motivated and it’s highly unlikely that a fight against Mosley, now 37, would be enough to get him to want to step back in the ring.
The reason being, not only is Mosley getting up there in age at 37, but he’s also been beaten five times – twice by Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright and once by Cotto – and it’s probably not something that would motivate Mayweather.
Even if he did fight and beat Mosley, Mayweather wouldn’t get much credit for having done so due to the advanced age of Mosley and the fact that he’s been beaten five times already by fighters considered below the ability of Mayweather. Mosley may not have proven as much as people think he did in beating Margarito, because the blue print was already made by Cotto in how not to fight Margarito a fight earlier, and all Mosley had to do was fight in the opposite way.
Besides that, Margarito was coming off a brutally hard fight in his fight with Cotto, whereas Mosley had had much less problems in his fight with Ricardo Mayorga. I think people will talk a lot about Mayweather and Mosley fighting, but I don’t give it even a remote chance of happening. If Mayweather does come back, it’s going to be to fight either Ricky Hatton or Pacquiao and not Mosley.
It would be a great fight, but it wouldn’t have enough of a draw probably to break Mayweather out of his year-long inertia.
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7 boxing belts of manny is no joke thaths the real boxing icon,and the best in the world and if a boxcer never lost thaths is the real joker,something fixing
Wow,the clock is really ticking and whatever the result and whoever emerges the victor it’s gonna be a great fight and people will talk about it long enough until the next mega fight comes along and pacman is the one waiting. Comes fight time, let’s just sit, relax and enjoy.
april25,
Both fighters are great. I love to see them fighting each other.
I really admired mayweather and mosley for the courage to take on random drug testing which will testify their sincerity
in their profession as a boxer that they are clean. I’m really frustrated with manny paquiao who is self proclaimed by the media people that he is the greatest but for me he is not because he is not a man of character because he promotes wine in his commercial just for money and a coward to show himself that he is clean as far as drugs is concern. For me, he is a bad example to the youth because he is pretentious and disloyal to his wife and kids. If he is not going to repent of his sin he is going to die and go to hell and burn forever. What a tragic end of person who deceived alot of people by his satanic prayers in the ring.
Are these Mosley fans serious…Records speak for themselves…oops..srry. Mayweather hasnt really fought the “baddest’ available fighters!!!!! Mosley wins…4th round KO
mayweather is going to get wat he deserves with a k.o on the 2nd round
Ok where to begin?..Boxing is a beautiful sport where two men stand in the ring with the same basic tools and try like hell to out smart one another. That being said there are a whole lot of politics involved. No boxer enters the ring and wants to lose, what would be the point in that? Floyd Mayweather (love him or hate him) has proven himself to be one of the best fighters of our time. Now those of us who are on the outside looking in could argue all day about whether or not he takes easy fights or if he dodges the tougher opponents that we all would love to watch him fight. It has come to the point where those who dislike him for his fight style or his arrogant rants simply want to watch him lose and it doesn’t matter to who. Floyd has taken on top caliber fights and his defensive skill and and counter punching talent as well as his “I told you so” mentality has made many of these fighters appear to be bums. (for the record I am not calling any of his apponents bums and never would).
Manny Pacquiao has become a superstar in the boxing world. The fact that he hardly ever does any trash talking, and when he does it almost seems out of character. He has proven himself in the ring as well and has beaten some of the sports greatest fighters and appears to do so very easily. Manny has beaten many a fans favorite fighters i.e. de la hoya, marquez, morales, hatton, cotto, barrera. In doing so, in most cases he did not turn those fans into people who want to see him beaten but rather convinced many as to why they should now be fans of his. The alligations of steroid abuse by Pacman I believe is a ploy by the Mayweather camp to buy time to prepare for the fight. Let us not forget that Floyd took some extended time away from the ring (retirement). Creating this issue and buying time was a smart move and one that was needed by both camps, please allow me to expalain why. The last thing a true boxing fan wants is excuses by either camp, so by taking this time this allows Floyd to come in off of his down time fully ready. Not to mention the hype will only build the pay per view sales. SMART…I believe that a middle ground will be met and this fight will take place….maybe!
The only problen in all of this is the fact that people seems to be over looking one potentially big problem…
Sugar Shane Mosley!!
Shane is one of the greats and proved himself against Margarito to be a very tough contender. All I am saying is lets not look too far forward because Shane will not lay down for Floyd and this could be one hell of a fight. If Shane wins this fight I believe fans will still want to see Floyd/Manny but a Manny/Shane fight will be pushed by the fans into the drivers seat and if that happens then urge to watch Manny/Floyd will remain, but Floyd no longer having his perfect record will put a damper on the fight. After all fans who dislike Floyd, dislike him because he continues to talk trash and so far has backed it up. Those boxing fans simply want to be able to throw that in his face. And well truth being told he would have had it coming.
Manny/Floyd/Mosley keeping us interested…till the next set of greats come along…
How is Mayweather above Winky Wright? Mosley fought some very strong fighters like Wright( in his prime), Margarito, Cotto. Who fought Mayweather? The chicken dancer Judah? The beer bag and sausages Hatton?
Mosley has changed his fight style, which I thought was perfect. no more pot shots or pitter pat speed. Mosley through from angles and whith impressive power. no waisted punches and a very smart game plan, which I would expect him to do the same vs Mayweather, however Mayweather is a different animal all togethr, and can and will adapt to any style or opponent that is put in front of him. His capability to adapt may be the best ever, and his pure talent, speed, reflexes ect. may make bim one of the greatest of all time.
this is a fight that i would not bet on, but if I had to I would deffinitely bet on Mayeather jr.
Marvelous1, lets’ get the facts straight because there are a lot of moving parts here. The fight didn’t blow up because Pac refused to take a test 14 days out. That may have been doable. AT this pointk we will never know as both fighters have moved on. It was more than that. It was UNLIMITED AND RANDOM up to 14 days out. Now Pac is either taking PEDS or he is not. IT is one or the other, right. So let’s examine this.
1. If he IS taking PEDs and he knows he has no chance of beating May without being able to get juiced up, then all of these excuses coming from Pac’s camp are lies to figure some way to minimize the tests to avoid getting caught. Let’s not even get into all the urine tests he agreed to and the blood test after the fight.
2. But if he is NOT taking PEDs then you have to believe that the reasons he is stating for not taking the random and unlimited blood tests are all true. They would have to be. Why else would any sane person walk away from $45M? If it is true that Pac gets weak for 3 days after having his blood taken, then how do you suppose that would affect his training if every other day someone came to him to stick another needle into his vein to suck out some more of his blood? Now it doesn’t bother May in the least because some people are different that way. But IF Pac is telling the truth, (and again he is either lying or he is not lying) then despite the tattoos (which is entirely different than having a hypddermic needle in your vein sucking out your blood) there is no way he would be able to train properly with this invasive testing going on all the time during his traiing camp. One test 14 days out non random and one after the fight? That may have worked. WE will never know. But RANDOM and especially UNLIMITED all the way UP TO 14 days out? Entirely different matter. Pac is entitled to be able to train properly.
Let me put it this way, IF there were a urine test (non invasive) that detected every PED out there including everything that a blood test could detect and more, do youreally think Pac would all of a sudden refuse to have his urine tested unlmited and random with no cut off date?
Whew! A lot of “deductive reasoning” here based on a even more nothing. First, Mayweather openly expressed a desire to fight Mosley over three years ago, after beating Carlos Baldomir. A clip on youtube is available for all to see Larry Merchant pose the question to Mosley after he’d beaten Fernando Vargas for the second. If you haven’t seen it, let tell you Mosley didn’t sound too keen, even citing a need to visit the dentist as a reason not to take the fight. I guess a job as Oscar De La Hoya’s sparring partner (in preparation for Mayweather) was eventually more appealing at the time).
As for Pacquiao, you can make all the suppositions you want, but the ONLY thing that stopped the fight happening was Pacquiao refusing to give 30mls of blood 14 days before the fight (which he did for the first Morales fight) and which Mosley has agreed to now. This in itself is no indication that Pacquiao is giulty of anything, but it is the only reason the fight didn’t happen. It may be Pacquiao not wanting to agree to what seemed an “outrageous” demand, but I guess the only difference between that one and, say, trying to tell a welterweight champion they must weigh in at 145lbs (Roach tried to get 143lbs) for a 147lbs limit title fight is, one demand would affect both fighters and would be beneficial to boxing. The other would affect one fighter and was for no other reason than giving Pacquiao every advantage to win. Oh, that and one was accept , the other rejected.
Mayweather may have little choice but to face Mosley (being that there was a lack of credible opponents around), but Pacquiao has been able to show his face just fine after Roach steering well clear of Mosley (even though he tried to make Mosley agree to a fight at 143lbs also and take a lower end of the purse- to which Mosley eventually agreed). It seems Arum is happy to feed his boy all his other Top Rank fighters (Margarito may well be next) so they can be subjeted to whatever terms he likes and it keeps Manny away from random testing- which should be a precendent filtered throughout the sport, seeing as it is well known that testing as it is by all commissions allows drug cheating (some PED’s and HGH) to still be used undetected, Vitor Conte should know.
Mayweather will fight Mosely because Fate intevened and he could never show his face again if he didn’t. So he will milk this “best fighting the best” crap for all it is worth. But it is still a mosely pushing 40 who lost twice to Vernon Forrest. I don’t count the two losses to Wright because he was fighting way out of his weight division. It is hard for me to see how an older Mosley is going to win against a fighter way more skilled than Forrest and still in his prime.
I don’t think he will ever fight Pac because his father already admitted he is afraid to fight him because he is afraid of his son getting hut because nobody can be that good without being on some kind of drugs. But think about this one. Pac is what he is. He is either on PEDs or he is not, right? NO middle graound here Either way he still is what he is. IF he is on PEDs he is a phony fighter too. A fake, in that case to be sure. But he is still a scary imposing fighter, albeit a fake on in that case, who probably would not be anywhere near as intimidating if he were not on those drugs.
Now let’s take the other scenario. Let’s say he is NOT on PEDs. Guess what? He is STILL the same fighter!! ONly now, in this case, he is NOT a fake. He is real! And he is a phenom considering what he has done in the manner he has done it. So Floyd Mayweather are you saying that you are so terrified of losing your 0, or worse yet scared of getting seriously hurt and so you do not want to have to face anyone who has the advantage of performanc enhancing drugs in his system so you want to make sure he is clean for your own safety before you will agree to fight him, right? ok, makes sense. But guess what? HE IS THE SAME FIGHTER EITHER WAY. All you would get, in the miniscule chance that Pac actually tested postive (which if you think about it goes against all reasoning by anyone with a scintilla of intelligence) would be that the fight would be cancelled. But if he tests clean YOU STILL HAVE TO FACE HIM IN THE RING. It is the same Pac either way. So you are saying that you are afraid to fight him if the Pac we all have come to know is a doped up Pac, but you are not afraid to face him if it turns out he really is this phenom and is totaly clean? Does that make any sense at all?
Let’s follow this one step further. Mayweather Sr. is convinced that is on something. His evidence? His evidence is that Pac has become so AWESOME in the ring that it is unnatural considering where he came from. Then he said that his son is the best by far but “even the best can be hurt if they are facing someone who has illegal performance enhancing drugs in his system. So he is convinced that the Pac who destoyed his boy Hatton and who walked right thru Cotto’s punches in blowing him away, was a doped up Pac and he is AFRAID FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO HIS SON if had to face such a doped up monster in the rignt. He is convinced that Pac only is so scary and imposing because of these drugs and he is afraid for his son if he had to fight on such an uneven playing field. Conclusion: He admitted he is afraid for his son to fight Pac and he justifies that fear by saying that Pac is a fake and that nobody can be that good. So guess what? He painted himself into a corner. Because if it turns out that Pac is NOT on PEDs (that IS a possiblity to all you die hard Mayweather fans out there), then he is STILL THE SAME FIGHTER THAT MAYWEATHER SR. ADMITTED HE WAS AFRAID FOR HIS SON TO FIGHT! The only differenc is now his son would have no excuses and would have to spend the rest of his life being called a coward if he still refused to fight him. Get it?
Looks like the boxing “geniuses” here know nothing because Mayweather IS fighting Mosley, contrary to belief of Mayweather being afraid. And to The Man, if you want to check any of the punch stats for any of Mayweather’s fights, he tends to land at least 80 more than his opponent (sometimes over 100 more). THAT’S how he wins on points. Using a box and move style is not only more athletically demanding but takes more skill.
i think mayweathere scaerd to fight manny because he’s gonna whift hes ass
Even top notch fighters like Mosely and Pacquiao would make boring fights with Mayweather. Just 12 boring rounds with Floyd running around the ring and ultimately getting the decision because he kept from getting hit even if he didn’t hit anyone. Where do they find these judges? I’ts beyond me.
If Mayweather ducked Pacquiao, what makes you think he wants any of Mosely?
Ilove floyd but he seems to want to take easier fights.
Either way you look at it MAYWEATHER wouldn’t fight Margarito, cotto, mosley. Mayweather is a good fighter but why come back and take a beating from paquiao. I feel pac man would walk away with a KO.
mayweather is ganna beat pacquiao and is ganna beat mosley becuz he is the best
mayweather is gonna get his first lost and mosley is gonna have victor
MAYWEATHER FIGHT MOSLEY!
U WILL STILL GET MONEY BOI!