Is Margarito The Best Welterweight When Not Being Clinched?
January 31st, 2009
By Manuel Perez: Shane Mosley proved one thing last week on January 24th, namely that he can beat Antonio Margarito when he’s clinching him often from eight to ten times per round. When Mosley was draped all over Margarito, Shane proved that he’s a better fighter than him at that style of non-fighting. But Mosley’s win didn’t prove that he’s a better overall fighter when you remove the clinching from the action.
Accustomed to positioning himself in close next to opponents, Margarito was unable to do this against Mosley because Shane would wrap him up in a clinch and walk him to the ropes, holding tight. If the referee had warned and then penalized Mosley, Margarito would have had the opportunity to get his shots off and would have stood a much better chance at winning the fight.
I think the fight would have been entirely different had the clinching from Mosley been taken out of the fight, and I’m hoping that boxing starts considering taking away the clinch from the sport. Margarito is an unstoppable force when he’s able to fight without being clinched. If Margarito is able to get his shots off, he’s still probably far and away the best welterweight in the division.
Mosley is a good fighter, skilled at taking away an opponent’s offense by clinching and moving constantly, but he probably would have stood no chance if he had to fight without clinching. Oh, I’m sure he would have come up with another strategy to try and win, maybe fighting out of a super low crouch below the waist for an extended amount of time.
Margarito is a punching machine and aside from someone like Paul Williams, there’s probably no other welterweight on the planet that could stand in with him for a full 12 rounds without having to resort to clinching to try and stop the action.
Clinching shouldn’t be allowed, and if the referees were doing their job the way they’re supposed to, they would be eradicating this practice by penalizing them or disqualifying them for this practice. Make no mistake, though, the fight would have likely been much different if Margarito had been able to fight without being clinched by Mosley so often.
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Wow Manuel Perez you are pityfull. Retire with the little dignity you have left.
margarito is the best warrior and slugger in the business. its entertaining to watch him fight. vs. watching a clinching match for 12 rounds.
Racial remarks are not made by reL BOXING FANS.bESIDES EVERYONE KNOWS THAT mEXICO HAS PRODUCE SOME OF THE GREATEST FIGHTHERS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN.
Hector is a moron
mmmm i dont know man i still think bertoad is gona be a force if he woks on his d a bit
me too! mosley and mayweather are the top men at welterweight!
He aint the best. He beat Cotto but he was not right 100% when you watch that fight. And lets face it now its come to surface that he may have used plaster cast fists against Mosley should he not have been caught then it makes alot more sense that Cotto was such a mess.
I COULD KNOCK OUT COTTO IF I HAD ROCK HARD FISTS.
But who is the best. Give Mayweather a couple of fights and I still think he has the skills to take out the rest of the bunch. Mosley – Mayweather is the fight I want to see.
sorry margoCHEATO has no shame lol
perez MARGOCHEATO has no same in gettin totally dominated and knocked out by such a world class competitor! mosley is easily top 5 lightweights of all time!! THE SUGAR MAN IS A LEGEND!!
It’s a war of attrition, you clinch when you have to you punch when you have to. Different referees handle it differently.
Boxing is a tactical sport use every trick and move within the rules to overcome your opponent so sometimes you may clinch and other times you punch. Look at the opunch stats from the Mosley fight there was only ever one winner.
So he clinched at times so what?
If Margarito had knocked Mosley out in round 9 would we be having this discussion about the clinching? I think not
Plain and simple Mosley was too quick, slick, experienced , skilled and as it turned out too hard a puncher. Basically Margarito got a bit of his own medicine for a change and couldn’t handle it. The guy is brave he took his lumps though. Mosley showed the blueprint for beating him but not everyone has the talent to execute it.
the only poblem i have with the holding issue is some yank refs let it happen and some will dock points and eventually disq.hatton was not allowed to fight on the inside against floyd as cortez broke them up straight away.but mosely clung on to margarito in parts as if his life depended on it.but he outgunned margarito anyway and landed at will,and because he knocked him out and it didn’t go to points it’s swept under the carpet.as for the hand wraps if it’s proved he should get the same punishment mosely got for takeing steroids!!!!!!
Margarito is over rated to hell!! Yeah like Adam said he has one tough bloke but if you look at his boxing skills they are very limited!! Laughin at some of the comments on here and most of them are true! Apart from this Hector bloke is speaking sh*t!
This entire article means nothing… Its like me saying “would Wladmir Klitsckho be the best heavy weight in the world if he stood there for the entire first round and let David Haye hit him as hard as he can for 3 minutes” Probably not lol!!! But whats the point your trying to make??? Clinchin is part of the sport and in order to be the best in the world you have to adapt to things like that
Margarito has an iron chin thats it.. i like his aggressive style but thats it with him he has no boxing skills he is just a street fighter. To say he is the best welterweight is a joke u obv no nofin about boxing.. Margarito was always gonna get knocked out he takes to many shots he is not superman at the end of the day there is only so many times u can take punishment like he takes in every fight.
This article may as well be titled ‘Is Michael Buffer the pound for pound best when he’s not allowed to be punched?’
And yes i know Buffer isnt a boxer, thats my point!
hahahaha hahahaha margarito is so overated
hahahahahahahahahahaha this manuel guy is a joke i dont see how he got the job in this website!!!did he even watch the fight mosley dropped bombs on margarito all night!!!! margarito looked like a plaster doll
shut up dummy you just did the same thing to me!
brettchkko now youre talking out of your ass, this site is for boxing comments! something you might not know about.
brettchko,what’s that nothing to say,i knew it.well i got my point.if you see margarito is not the cheater.mosley cheats he say so, or not?so ,who’s gonna take his f===ing bag with illegals things.don’t forget mosley cheats.about margarito,we don’t know yet,if he cheated i would feel sorry for all his fans,but now i can’t say anything.if is guilty he is gonna get what he deserves.so is not fair talking like that about him.he deserves a fair trial,don’t ya
This website really is fast becoming the laughing stock of boxing websites. I mean seriously, the authors of some of the articles on here are saying these things just to get traffic…
eastside boxing is far more level headed and actually holds back on alot of bias. Some very well written articles on that website.
What a joke. I dont come here for news anymore I come for a laugh!
hector shut up go back to mexico and take Marg. and his bag of plaster with you!!!!!!!!!!!
adam, if margarito is suspended is not becouse it was something illegal. they are trying to found out if is or not illegal!now you guys are talking than all margarito’s fights were with something illegal in the gloves, that scks!so that means mosley could win all his fights taken something illegal before aech fight?or just a mexican fighter can do that?mosley spoke to the media and said, i drink something before oscar’s fight to be in better shape,and better condition,what was that,so that is ok?
hector,you think your so smart.LMFA!You made no sense at all.Margarito’s camp watched Mosly wrap his hands and didn’t have a problem.And it’s not if they found something weird in Margarito’s gloves.The found something weird in Margarito’s gloves.It’s not up tp anybody at the fight to suspend Margarito,its the sanctioning body’s responsability.And hector,they have suspended Margarito.And because Mosley outboxed,outclasses, and outpunched margarito doesn’t mean Mosley was using anything at all.Your Mexican just got his as* kicked.Answer all your questions.
i don’t know you guys but for me seens like there are some guys who wants margarito’s butt out of boxing,
o god. i don’t understand why people talk like that.im gonna asked .have you seen the plaster than you are talking about?what make you think mosley didn’t use any kind of sustenance to fight margarito like he did before against oscar de la hoya?we know that, right!so why do you think him is a super star?for me is kind of weird,if they found something illegal in the margarito’s gloves why they let it fihgt?any of you has the answer.last thing.how do you know than mosley was the one used the plaster gloves instead of margarito?now think about.isn’t weird dont ya!
he prob. likes it when we react like this , prob. why he says it.
Manuel, stop talking out of your ass.
Atention all welterweights out there if fighting Margarito remember not to clinch because this will allow him to hit u with plaster in the face.This is very important to him because it is how he becomes the best welterweight in the world.Even if u bash his face in and knock his ass out he still be better than u.LMAO!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, I agree with Adam… We shouldn’t even respond to this guy anymore!
Every last word that he wrote is hilarious. Yo Perez I hope you reading this comment cause man… Damn yo… listen closely man and please try to watch that fight again.
YO there wasn’t that much clinching to begin with!!!!!!!!!! Stupid!!!!!!!!! Mosely was not getting phazed with any of Margarito’s punches… there wasn’t any plaster this time!! YOU ARE IN DENIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHY!!!!!! and yo….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All Margarito has is a hard HEAD!!!!! NO BODY!!!!!
MOSELY BEAT HIM WITH BODY SHOTS NOT CLINCHING YOU SORRY ASSSS MOTHA F**KN MEXICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Oh and by the way… Uhhhhmmm, referees break up clinches. We all go for the punches not the clinches. Uhhhhhmmmmm, Mosely was the better fighter and Margarito got knocked da f**k out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE
norbert,we all wanna see action.I’ve seen 1000′s of great matches,and they’ve all clinched.It’s part of the business.Another part of the business is tryin to keep a guy off.that’s what the fighters train to do.There’s alot more things ina boxing match then holding.
this article is moronic.
margarito got his face pounded in. period. end of story. move on.
NO He’s not even in the class A club.
Lmao Calv! How about is Arreola the most athletic heavyweight ever when not fat from eating too many pies?
i dont understand why these people are so much in favor of clinching dont they want to whatch some action packed fights? the non-clinching or limited holding fights have always been the fights of the year, its bad enought running all over the ring without throwing punches add clinching and it gets pretty f___king boring!!
Do people get piad for writing articles for this site? Because on the basis of this one, I’m going to forward an article entitled ‘Is Amir Khan the Best Boxer on the Planet when people don’t hit him in the face’ and then I’m going to invoice bosingnews24.com for it for £100.
I heard Mr. Blobby is waiting in the wings as a substitute for the Arreola vs Peter (super)heavyweight fight should one of them fail the medical lmao!
mr blobby is also a joke, much like ur article. it will depend on how well hatton cuts ring down. if it turns into a punch fest hatton is favourite
THIS GUY IS A MEXICAN JOKE HE NEEDS TO SHUT THE F#*K UP
Clinching is part of the game, its a fight, not a tickling contest! A great fighter can use someone elses clinching to his advantage. Mayweather used Hatton’s clinching against him to wear him out by constantly turning him.
Margarito is only the best welterweight when he has plaster in his gloves!
surely this is a joke he beat him and thats all there is to it styles make fights and mosleys defence beat margaritos offence after all the art of boxing is hit not get hit.
ps
should the title to this article be Is Margarito The Worst Welterweight When Not using plaster?”
Margarito is the best Wekterweight when he’s not using hand plasture,not gettin his face beat in,and not gettin ouclassed and outboxed.I guess that means no.I don’t think we should reply to this fool’s garbage anymore.
Margarito’s only the best welterweight when he wears plaster on his hands, dumbass… The funny thing is Margarito is usually the one clinching when he’s able to back his opponent up against the ropes…
Margarito is the best welterweight when he uses plaster.
Is Margarito The Best Welterweight When Not Using Fist Loads?
Margo could have clinched to stop Mosley but he didn’t because he didn’t have the ring smarts. Its a skill not something fighters do to for a joke
Is this a joke. Why don’t you admit you were wrong and that Margo lost to the better man. Articles like this are a joke and disrespectful to what Mosley accomplished. Have you ever risked your life fighting in front of 1000′s of people?
Clinching is a part of boxing. Without it fighters such as Ali woulden’t be ATG.