Hatton Needs To Accept The 60-40 Deal
January 13th, 2009
By Scott Gilfoid: I don’t see what the problem is for Ricky Hatton. Manny Pacquiao (48-3-2, 36 KOs) is offering him an excellent deal of a 60-40 split and here Hatton wants to screw things up by asking for a 50-50 split. Hatton needs to take the offer and be happy that he’s getting it. In boxing, the better fighter generally always gets the bigger purse, that’s just the way things are done.
Few would disagree that Hatton, 30, isn’t at the same level as Pacquiao in terms of talent and prior experience. What it boils down to is this: Pacquiao deserves the bigger split given his victories over excellent fighters like Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, David Diaz and Jorge Solis.
The biggest name on Hatton’s resume, Mayweather, ended up being him by a 10th round TKO. Why, then, should Hatton be allowed to ask for a purse split on even turns? For me, a 60-40 split is more than a generous offer for Hatton. Hatton, as far as I’m concerned, deserves no better than a 70-30 split with Pacquiaio since Ricky hasn’t proven that he’s got the talent to get a bigger share.
Of course, I would have seen things differently if Hatton had fought the best light welterweights in the division, like Junior Witter, Timothy Bradley, Ricardo Torres, Kendall Holt and Andreas Kotelnik. But for some reason, Hatton has chose not to face these fighters. Instead, he’s opted for fighters that I consider far lesser in talent and has cruised to an nearly unblemished record.
Pacquiao doesn’t look to be willing to budge on his offer of his desire for a bigger slice of the pie, so unless Hatton is willing to budge, we may end up seeing Pacquiao move on to a fight against Mayweather instead. Thought some people are saying that fight won’t make nearly as much PPV dollars for Pacquiaio then a fight against Hatton would, but don’t believe it.
Mayweather is clearly the more popular fighter worldwide, not just in the U.S, and would bring in millions. Whether Pacquiao takes a 50-50 split with Mayweather or comes out on the short end, I think Pacquiao will still make out a lot better than he would if he settles for a 50-50 split with Hatton.
And after Pacquiao gets through dealing with Mayweather, I imagine Hatton would be more than willing to accept the 60-40 that Pacquiao was offering to him. Hatton needs to wise up and realize that he’s got a good thing in taking a smaller cut with Pacquiao. I mean, it isn’t as if he has any other options out there that will bring him in comparable money.
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hatton is crop.60-40 best deal.better than 75-25. hatton is suck in boxing.
Manny has zero market value in UK.If you got in professional accounts and valued this fight properly he would get far less than the 50% offered.Only reason Hatton is offering 50% is out of respect thinking he is worth 60% is complete fantasy.Only one person is responsible for this fight not being made and thats Pacman.
Why everybody of you bother off the split?
Did not our own Manny agree verbally to a 50-50 split?Hence, if he back out from that agreement he is still thesame Manny Pacquiao who screwed up De La Hoya 3 years ago. Manny should protect his word outside the ring as his fist protect him inside the ring. I pray for Manny to win but I will put my money on Ricky.Whoever win, I win
Great post Daveyboy.
Rex,
Manny IS NOT the undisputed P4P number one. Winning 1 title at lightweight against the easiest title-holder at the time and not defending it, followed by winning a non-title welterweight against a once decent, now fading Oscar De La Hoya, is not enough. To propel himself to undisputed number 1, Manny needs to settle the Juan Manuel Marquez score, beat Hatton, beat Mayweather if he comes back.
Also, was there any need for half a dozen separate posts?!
Rob i was being sarcastic about the whole Klitchko thing. Im not that stupid to suggest they REALLY SHOULD fight.
I was just sayin that P4P is based on the imaginary world of if all boxers in the world were at the same weight the 1 that would be the best would be P4P.
But Pacman is fighting about 3 weights if not 4 higher than is his natural weight so when Hatton beats him it wont make Hatton P4P king because thats not how it works, if it did work like that then Pacman would have to clear up every division there is.
mayweather didnt batter hatton.
This was an EXPERTS scorecard up to the 6th rnd:
Round 1 – 10-9 HATTON
Round 2 – 10-9 mayweather
Round 3 – 10-9 HATTON
Round 4 – 10-9 mayweather
Round 5 – 10-9 HATTON
Round 6 – 9-9 HATTON
However rnd 6 should of been 10-9 HATTON as he had a point deducted which made it 9-9
Work it out? In the 6 opening rounds HATTON won 4 and mayweather won 2.
Next thing it all changes with a little help from floyds friend…oh a get by with a little help from my friend (joe cortez)
(Hatton gets a point deducted for something that never happened and loses his head)
Round 7 – 10-9 mayweather
Round 8 – 10-9 mayweather
Round 9 – 10-9 mayweather
Round 10 – 10-8 mayweather
ukansodoff
sort ur life out and never come on this site again.
do you realise what youve just sed. the kiltskos are 6 ft 8 with a 1 foot 2 height over manny u really think manny would move up to heavyweight hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha
someone 5ft 6 in heavyweight ahhahahahahahahhahahahaha
humurous u are
It’s all about revenue you f-ing nob jockey. Hatton will bring in more spectators around the world then any other boxer. How many Filipino’s will be travelling to vegas? Everytime Hatton fights his support out number the rest easily by 2-1, so the reason for the 50-50 split is because Hatton is the biggest box office which rakes in the biggest amount of TV, PPV and crowd revenue and thats why he deserves a 50-50 split.
Even if Hatton beats the Pacman it wont make him P4P, Thats not how boxin works and people are beginnin to forget it.
If Pacqiauo wins should he then face 1 of the Klitchkos? And if they beat him they become P4P?
Pacman is P4P king. Hatton will never be, Hatton can only fight at Lightwelter and struggle when he moves up 1 division and hed never move down 1.
But Hatton will still beat him, and Pacquiao will still remain P4P.
It means with all the tools these boxers posess IF they all fought at the same weight naturally 1 would be better than all the rest. You dont HAVE TO clean up in 5 or 6 different weights to prove it becuase after so long you take a step too far and struggle yourself to a weight thats does your body little good and you will face a natural at that weight who will smash you.
And thats what will happen this time.
THE REASONS WHY 50-50 IS RIGHT.
Let’s look at it from a different perspective:
1) Ricky is the number 1 ranked linear and undefeated champion at 140lbs and has been for almost 4 years.
2) Ricky is putting his Ring and IBO belt on the line, he enters the ring as the champion, Pacman the challenger.
3) In a single bout, Ricky has generated 900,000 PPV buys in the UK alone at 5am, considering the UK has 1/5th the population of the US, this is the equivalent of a fighter pulling 4.5M PPV in the US (twice the PBF v ODLH). No other fighter can do this. This fight will top 1M PPV in the UK alone and adjusted for exchange rates, this brings US$23M. Pacman should be grateful he is being offered 50% of this. The Philippines brings no TV money.
4) Ricky brings a stadium worth of fans to travel across to the US that will require large closed-circuit screens set up in local casino’s and theatres(at $50 a pop)for those who can’t get tickets. Even if tickets are split evenly,the majority will end up with Hatton fans. Ricky brings the Lion’s share with his paying fanbase.
5) Ricky has backed down on his wish to have the fight in front of 100,000 at Wembley Stadium, forfeiting a massive live gate purse and agreed to travel to Pacman’s adopted home.
6) Hatton-Mayweather and Pacman-ODLH achieved roughly the same PPV figures. Considering ODLH was talking about his “last fight” he probably would’ve pulled in around a million whoever he would’ve fought, so who is too say how the PPV figures for this fight will be split amongst supporters, casuals or neutrals?
7)Freddie Roach has stated Pacman has no intention of returning to 135. To be considered No1 at his new weight he needs to beat Hatton.
Pacman knows bar the second-coming of Floyd “Money I owe the IRS” Mayweather, Hatton is his biggest draw. They need each other.
9) Pacman’s own promoter, Bob Arum and his coach Freddie Roach both say 50-50 is fair. Roach even quoted as saying he will have a word with Pacman about this issue.
10) Pacman will earn more at 50-50 in this fight than his 38% from the ODLH fight, due to the split UK TV share and probably greater US PPV numbers. Considering it was verbally agreed, is he aware how neutral and future fight fans will view/perceive it?
Ducking – yes, sounds crazy but why be prepared to earn less fighting an old, washed up, weight drained shell of a man in ODLH and not earn more fighting a stronger and in his prime-linear champion? Historians will soon forget who deserved what and remember who backed out first and in this case it will be Manny.
11) The argument that MP is P4P number 1 is subjective. It doesn’t add weight to the split. In this case, Pacman will be the challenger. Simple as.
12) What happened to keeping your word? It has been well known for a week the purse was agreed verbally as 50-50, how come soon as MP returns to the Philipines the whingeing begun? If you give your word, learn to keep it.
13)Hatton needs to pay for his expensive beer, burger and whiskey sessions that keep people employed and keeps the economy in the UK going, so morally he should get more.
So..stop crying Pacman and sign on the dotted line – you know it makes sense
I agree chris.Like i said before.Hatton is now a money fighter because he knows his time is limited.He isn’t in the same class as Mayweather or Pacquaio so he’s gonna fight the top class to get the payday and nothing else.He doesn’t matchup against the best in the world.so he’ll get his money now and be done.The old Ricky Hatton that used to just fight for the fun of it and dominate lower class boxers is gone.
Im the biggest Hatton fan but I think his ego is getting in the way of the possibility of him becoming the p4p number 1. I think Hattons argument is he has as much pulling power as pac fanancially which he prob has a point, but I think its a discrace he is moaning about his purse, he is a multi million air who will still gain a stupid amount of money and more importantly the chance to fight the best!!
what happend to just being the normal lad from a council estate?
‘In boxing, the better fighter generally always gets the bigger purse, that’s just the way things are done.’
Not true, the bigger draw gets the bigger purse. Take De La Hoya vs Mosley, their careers parallelled each other and Mosley was the better fighter but only got around a third of what De La Hoya got for their first fight.
Ricky is the bigger draw hence why Mayweather and De La Hoya want to fight him.
However Rex’s point of ‘I really don’t think it’s about greed for Manny as he is a charitable guy and gives away more money to the less fortunate people around him more than any boxer I can think of. That extra 5%-10% will just mean Manny would be able to share more of his wealth and blessings to those that ask from him.’ means that on moral grounds he does deserve the bigger share.
Manny has earned the distinction of being the top dog in boxing at the moment and he deserves to be treated as such. Whether he actually gets the 60% he is asking for though is beyond me, but you really can’t blame a guy for playing the game smart- a game that also played him when he was nobody and was trying to come up. So heck yea he deserves to ask for more. He earned it! It’s part of the game and now that he’s the top dog, he’s just playing the game smart. I really don’t think it’s about greed for Manny as he is a charitable guy and gives away more money to the less fortunate people around him more than any boxer I can think of. That extra 5%-10% will just mean Manny would be able to share more of his wealth and blessings to those that ask from him. It’s in Manny’s words “just part of the business”. And any smart businessman would simply do the same thing. With all that said the Pac Man deserves the bigger piece of the steak, but at the end of the day, who am I to say right? I just hope this fight pushes through.
Who can Ricky Hatton seriously fight that would generate more interest than a match-up with Pacquiao? (I’ll give you a 5 minute pause to think this one out) Ok, was Floyd Mayweather Jr. the best you can do? Fine. But why? Other than the Hattonites, who would want to see that fight again? And no, regardless of Floyd Sr. being in Hatton’s corner, it wouldn’t make a difference. So scratch that. De la Hoya? Yea right. If Hatton beats De la Hoya, people will just say “so what? Pacquiao whooped him”. And if De la Hoya beats Hatton, can you imagine how that will damage his career? It ain’t happening.
As for Manny, well, actually Manny has options. The first option would be… yea, you guessed it! Floyd Mayweather Jr. This would be a match-up that the boxing world would truly go bananas over. The match-up sells itself. You don’t really need to say much about it. Floyd Mayweather Jr, Manny Pacquiao, a big lump of cash, LET’S GO. Especially right after the devastating beat down Pacquiao put on De la Hoya after all the publicity they generated for it. Man, are you kidding me? ESPN would eat this thing up! Best believe Pacquiao is no longer the Philippines’ treasure. Pacquiao is definitely an international superstar now. Just look at all those celebrities who came out to support him before the fight. Talk about Usher, Reggie Miller, Mark Wahlberg, Eva Longoria and even weeks after the fight, NFL star Courtland Finnegan of the Tennessee Titans had his practice jersey customized to say Pacquiao on it instead of his last name. I mean come on. Celebrities are like tokens of trends going on in the society. Unless you live under a rock, celebrities are indications of where the masses’ heads are at. Yea, just like that Coach or Louis Vuitton bag your momma and your girlfriend or wife has and those pair of Kobe hyper dunks or Jordans kids and big kids alike love to wear.
“He’s exciting (Pacquiao). I have to respect that he’s an exciting fighter. He fights with excitement and recently shown a lot of boxing skill in addition to his aggression, his great punching power, not afraid of anyone, never been in bad fights, so I think he’s wonderful for boxing”.
By.EMANUEL STEWARD
F++K OFF Gareth Williams if you say that a fight with Floyd wont generate as much as Hatton would bring. And if you think that Filipino fans wont AND cant be there or get a live PPV buys if ever that fight FLOYD pursue. Don’t you all Know British DIE HARD that over a million Filipino is now Legally live in the U.S? not only that Manny is World Renowned Boxer His so popular that even in Africa he was being Idolize. In Hatton’s Case what Hatton Who?
Ricky will never win against the Beast from the Far East which is Pacquiao. There’s no way he can win no matter what you BRITS think of it. sorry but you can only say your thoughts and feelings in this site coz in fight night you all gonna cry.
“The Pacman” is coming off a devastating knockout victory over the biggest figure within boxing over the past decade in Oscar De la Hoya. It was an eye-opening experience that drew 1.25 million viewers which is astonishing considering the current state of the economy.
“The Hitman” is coming off an aesthetically displeasing bout with Paulie Malignaggi that drew miserable ratings on HBO’s World Championship boxing.
by: John Chavez
Ricky’s name surface to the global audience when he fought the most popular fighter which is Floyd, then after that there’s no more better PPV he has generated;maybe of course in England but when we talk about global fans, I don’t know but as what I knew the buys are comparable only to the fight of Calzaghe and Jones.
Manny deserved the bigger percentage of the purse HIS THE UNDISPUTED P4P Dude…
In his previous fights he always get the lower half of the pot and he doesn’t complaint or ask for more. now it his time to command the game Ricky should accept it.
Pacquiao might be the better boxer but Ricky is the bigger ppv draw so doesn’t need to accept a 40-60 deal.
The unbiased boxing fan also agreed that Ricky was going to be demolished by then p4p no.2 Kostya Tzu and that didn’t happen.
I won’t be making any excuses if he loses, he lost to Mayweather by being outclassed however so did everyone else….
Come to think of it I would love to see what your excuse is if Ricky wins.
Ricky has alot of british fans and that’s it.The rest of us see him for what he is.An average boxer that doesn’t belong in the ring with the best like Pacquaio and obviously Mayweather.The unbias boxing fan overwhelmingly agrees that Hatton is gonna be demolished and doesn’t deserve 50-50.He didn’t deserve it with Mayweather and doesn’t deserve it with Pacquiao.I don’t care how many British fans Hatton brings in.Hatton needs Pacquaio alot more than Pacquaio needs Hatton.When Hatton gets worked by Pacquaio,you Brits will have some other lame as* excuse,like Ricky blocked every punch Pacquaio threw.Unfortunately it was with his face.He put his face in front of his gloves or he woulda won that fight.Hatton will soon be disposed of,so lets get on with it.
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no dunc thankfully he doesn’t get paid, it is instead a job in which to get reconised for writting good articles and showing good boxing knowledge. but after reading some of his articles i think you may be right.
Something makes me think that the insightful level-headed Scott Gilfoid, has got a bee in his bonnet about good British boxers!?!
Does this man actually get paid to write these articles? I’d like to pay him to pi** off, and get in someone with half a brain. Saying that, he must love winding up us Brits ehh, nudge, nudge, wink, wink!
or he could take the 50-50 purse split that has been agreed, as neither has had an arguement about it. its just that another prat who also has no boxing knowledge said that there was an arguement over the purse split- which is wrong (story of scott gilfoids life).
there was no arguement and the fight is still scheduled for may 2nd.
You’ve really got to laugh at some of this, I’m afraid.
The author writes of Manny’s ‘victories’ over Juan Manuel Marquez – both debatable, nothing is settled over who the better fighter is. He mentions victory over Oscar De La Hoya – that was at a weight better suited to a prime Pacquiao coming up, than an Oscar who clearly couldn’t cope with such a huge drop in weight (for the first time in 7 years) and when entering the twilight of his career. He cites victory over David Diaz – a limited fighter who was the easiest route to a lightweight title for Manny, and not a title it seems he’ll not bother to defend.
Then he writes how Ricky Hatton only beat a faded Tszyu – would that be the same one who demolished Sharmba Mitchell just 7 months before Ricky retired him? Sure, Vince Phillips was faded at 40, but Hatton only won pretty much every round. Tackie, on the other hand, was 30 and not faded (though he is badly so now). Castillo may have been battle-scarred but Hatton took out the body-puncher with a taste of his own medicene, in just 4 rounds.
When you add in that Ricky is a massive PPV name/draw in his own right, you’ve got a clear argument for why it should be 50-50. When you factor in that it’ll be in Las Vegas, in a small venue, there’s another good reason for it to be 50-50. If Manny wants 60-40, or something ludicrous like 70-30, he should come to London where they can cram about 100,000 into Wembley and both make a fortune regardless.
if any1 should be getting the 60% it should b ricky.no1 sells tickets like hatton,ricky has already gave in by fighting in america and he wanted the fight late may but went with what they wanted which was may 2nd and now there screaming they want more what a joke.I think that is a good idea ukansodoff if its 60-40 the winner should get the 60.
My 1st opinion of this article appears to of been removed so i will have another go without any obsenities.
Pacquiao is P4P king and even if Hatton beat him that wouldnt change, BUT, He isnt givin an average guy a shot at the big time here hes facing Ricky Hatton who is a huge name in the sport and is a massive money maker, in some “official” stats ive seen it actually works out Hatton is a bigger attraction price wise.
Somebody on another forum said they should fight with the winner gettin the 60%. Good idea, especially seein as Hattons guna demolish him.
Im telling you all now, just like Malanagi Pacman will be shocked at just how quick, brutal, strong and resiliant Hatton is and he has overestimated his performance against DLH. The more i think about it the quicker the fights guna be.
He may be P4P king but you can only reach so far out of your comfort zone and Hattons a step too far.
Scott,
what a load of crap, you saying Oscar De La Hoya was on top form for his fight ??never heard such rubbish.
Agent Blue is right above when he says look how many fans Hatton takes with him no matter where he fights !! has to be 50-50 split
scott your such a useless writer. Its a good job this site dont pay you anything. Your a disgrace.
Agent blue makes a fair point , maybe Manny should do what Mr Gilfoid always criticizes European fighters for not doing , travel to the UK and sell out Wembley with 100,000 capacity instead of going for a fight in a carpark or a small casino.Hatton may not be the best but he pretty much always sells out at home or away .50,000 for a fighter like Lazcano who Mr Gilfoid clearly does not rate.Oscar DH would not take the thin end of purse despite being shot for some time!!
so box office appeal does count GET IN THE REAL WORLD WHY THE HELL AT THIS STAGE OF NEGOTIATIONS WOULD RICKY ACCEPT A POOR SPLIT GET REAL, IT IS JUST BUSINESS.
I’m a Hatton fan, but I admit Pacquiao is the more skilled boxer (doesn’t mean he is guaranteed to win though) with the better resume. However, it’s not about who is the better boxer, it’s about who brings in the money in terms of ticket buys and PPV buys. If you look at it like that, a 50-50 split is completely fair……
Hatton deserves a 60-40 deal.Pacquaio is the best in the wold at the moment,not Hatton.Pacquaio has beaten the best boxers on the planet,not Hatton.Take a look at the quality of opponents on both of their records.It’s not even close.