Comments on: Calzaghe: “I still don’t think Kelly Pavlik has really proven himself” http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Scott http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-3074 Scott Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:13:38 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-3074 Funny, pavlik lost to hopkins who JC beat and Kessler would kill pavlik no worries maybe you need to stay up later to actually watch the fights " Funny, pavlik lost to hopkins who JC beat and Kessler would kill pavlik no worries maybe you need to stay up later to actually watch the fights “

]]> By: michael http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-2523 michael Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:45:34 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-2523 pavlik needs to fight kessler first (he would lose). pavlik needs to fight kessler first (he would lose).

]]> By: T http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-2060 T Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:45:21 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-2060 I'm not denying Pavlik has talent, or that he might (at this point in time) be more dangerous than RJJ, or even that he might go on to prove him self a true great (i'm sure Calzaghe himself wouldnt deny that either). But in the context of what Pavlik has achieved to date, Calzaghe is absolutely right. Beating Talyor twice (and being knocked down in the first fight) does not a great fighter make, especially when Taylor himself is only defined as a decent (note: decent, not great) fighter by beating Hopkins. Miranda and Zuniga better than the majority of Calzaghe's opponents? Please. At this point in his career, Calzaghe has earnt the right to choose who he fights. When you are 45 and 0, a reigning champion for over ten years and ring magazine belt holder in two weight classes, and number 2 pound-for-pound fighter in the world, you EARN that right. Pavlik is an up and comer, nothing more. He's no more dangerous than Lacy or Kessler were (before Calzaghe destroyed them both) and thats the truth. Calzaghe doesnt need to fight the up and comers, he's already been there, done that, his whole career (read his record). Pavlik deserves credit, but JC simply doesnt have to fight him (whether he could beat him or not). Why doesnt Pavlik go after Abraham if he wants to fight the best? Or is it really Pavlik who is avoiding the dangerous fights in order to get a big name on his record and establish a legacy before his time has come? If so, its him who should wake up. Because he has most definately NOT earnt the right to do that. I’m not denying Pavlik has talent, or that he might (at this point in time) be more dangerous than RJJ, or even that he might go on to prove him self a true great (i’m sure Calzaghe himself wouldnt deny that either). But in the context of what Pavlik has achieved to date, Calzaghe is absolutely right. Beating Talyor twice (and being knocked down in the first fight) does not a great fighter make, especially when Taylor himself is only defined as a decent (note: decent, not great) fighter by beating Hopkins. Miranda and Zuniga better than the majority of Calzaghe’s opponents? Please.

At this point in his career, Calzaghe has earnt the right to choose who he fights. When you are 45 and 0, a reigning champion for over ten years and ring magazine belt holder in two weight classes, and number 2 pound-for-pound fighter in the world, you EARN that right. Pavlik is an up and comer, nothing more. He’s no more dangerous than Lacy or Kessler were (before Calzaghe destroyed them both) and thats the truth. Calzaghe doesnt need to fight the up and comers, he’s already been there, done that, his whole career (read his record). Pavlik deserves credit, but JC simply doesnt have to fight him (whether he could beat him or not).

Why doesnt Pavlik go after Abraham if he wants to fight the best? Or is it really Pavlik who is avoiding the dangerous fights in order to get a big name on his record and establish a legacy before his time has come? If so, its him who should wake up. Because he has most definately NOT earnt the right to do that.

]]> By: rrronon ukonr u.k.ron http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1855 rrronon ukonr u.k.ron Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:48:56 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1855 cheers for that kelly oops sorry dan! maybe if he does prove yourself best in the middleweight division by fighting and beating abrahams he might earn a crack at the higher weight. cheers for that kelly oops sorry dan! maybe if he does prove yourself best in the middleweight division by fighting and beating abrahams he might earn a crack at the higher weight.

]]> By: Dean http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1848 Dean Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:39:18 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1848 I totally agree with the Kessler comments also. I totally agree with the Kessler comments also.

]]> By: Dean http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1847 Dean Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:38:21 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1847 Rememer Jeff Lacey? The next big American Thing? To all American fans. Please watch the 12 rounds. Rememer Jeff Lacey? The next big American Thing? To all American fans. Please watch the 12 rounds.

]]> By: Bagpuss http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1841 Bagpuss Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:41:13 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1841 I keep saying calzaghe will win there is no way pavlik will beat kessler. I hope B-hop destroys Pavlik what will the excuse be by the american fans. I keep saying calzaghe will win there is no way pavlik will beat kessler. I hope B-hop destroys Pavlik what will the excuse be by the american fans.

]]> By: Centremid http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1822 Centremid Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:34:44 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1822 Pavlik still has to make his way through a lot of fighters, time will tell but Calzagie is right on this one. Pavlik still has to make his way through a lot of fighters, time will tell but Calzagie is right on this one.

]]> By: chappy http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1817 chappy Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:06:02 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1817 I agree, Pavlik has only fought a shot Taylor, He has no defining win yet but he will someday. Its not a winning situation for Calzaghe, if he fights and wins they will say he beat a middleweight with lack of experience. Pavlik needs to clear up the middleweghts, and challenge some of the big guns at supermiddle before stepping up to light heavy. They are different era fighters. Anyway we all know it would be a tough fight, but a points win for JC I agree, Pavlik has only fought a shot Taylor, He has no defining win yet but he will someday. Its not a winning situation for Calzaghe, if he fights and wins they will say he beat a middleweight with lack of experience. Pavlik needs to clear up the middleweghts, and challenge some of the big guns at supermiddle before stepping up to light heavy. They are different era fighters. Anyway we all know it would be a tough fight, but a points win for JC

]]> By: alan http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1811 alan Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:31:19 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1811 Its all a bit of a muddle. On the one hand Calzaghe claims Pavlik has yet to prove himself, yet on the other hand, he was chasing Pavlik himself a few fights ago. So was Pavlik a "proven" fighter whe Joe was chaing him, but all of a sudden Pavlik no longer is "proven"? On the other hand, I still think Pavlik would get his ass kicked by Kessler. If Pavlik can beat Kessler, then Calzaghe would have NO excuse not to fight Kelly. Its all a bit of a muddle. On the one hand Calzaghe claims Pavlik has yet to prove himself, yet on the other hand, he was chasing Pavlik himself a few fights ago. So was Pavlik a “proven” fighter whe Joe was chaing him, but all of a sudden Pavlik no longer is “proven”? On the other hand, I still think Pavlik would get his ass kicked by Kessler. If Pavlik can beat Kessler, then Calzaghe would have NO excuse not to fight Kelly.

]]> By: ali http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1806 ali Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:50:34 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1806 i agree, taylor was well past his best and he's over-rated! i think its all about the age difference, y shouldnt calzaghe fight sum nearer his age and sum1 who was a pound 4 pound great at the same time as himself not sum1 who has only just made it i agree, taylor was well past his best and he’s over-rated! i think its all about the age difference, y shouldnt calzaghe fight sum nearer his age and sum1 who was a pound 4 pound great at the same time as himself not sum1 who has only just made it

]]> By: prettyboy gdot http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1805 prettyboy gdot Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:42:59 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/08/calzaghe-i-still-don%e2%80%99t-think-kelly-pavlik-has-really-proven-himself%e2%80%9d/#comment-1805 wot a d**k ' i cant see many people agreeing with calzaghe?' i agree with him, lets c who else does - if u agree with calzaghe please leave a comment! wot a d**k ‘ i cant see many people agreeing with calzaghe?’ i agree with him, lets c who else does – if u agree with calzaghe please leave a comment!

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