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	<title>Comments on: Is Julio Cesar Chavez Not a Legend?</title>
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		<title>By: 213FASTLIFE</title>
		<link>http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/07/is-julio-cesar-chavez-sr-not-a-legend/#comment-266903</link>
		<dc:creator>213FASTLIFE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50/50????  WELL MR. LIEBERMAN THIS ARTICLE SHOWS YOUR IGNORANCE ON THE SPORT ..IT SEEMS YOU JUST PICKED UP STATS ON THE FIGHTER AND DECIDED TO WRITE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE SPORT.WELL ALL THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS (WHERE THERE IS SUCCES THERE IS CRITICISM).IT APPEARS EVERYONE IS AGAINST YOUR LITTLE ARTICLE,NEED I SAY MORE??PLEASE DONT WRITE ABOUT WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND.OH AND PLEASE,LET THE LEGEND BE.DONT THROW DIRT ON THE CHAMP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50/50????  WELL MR. LIEBERMAN THIS ARTICLE SHOWS YOUR IGNORANCE ON THE SPORT ..IT SEEMS YOU JUST PICKED UP STATS ON THE FIGHTER AND DECIDED TO WRITE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE SPORT.WELL ALL THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS (WHERE THERE IS SUCCES THERE IS CRITICISM).IT APPEARS EVERYONE IS AGAINST YOUR LITTLE ARTICLE,NEED I SAY MORE??PLEASE DONT WRITE ABOUT WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND.OH AND PLEASE,LET THE LEGEND BE.DONT THROW DIRT ON THE CHAMP.</p>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should learn at least a little bit of boxing before writing stuff like this bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should learn at least a little bit of boxing before writing stuff like this bro.</p>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/07/is-julio-cesar-chavez-sr-not-a-legend/#comment-40482</link>
		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr. lieberman is entitled to his opinion...as is everyone. its sad that a fighter can give his all when in his prime and as he gets older falters, hes judged on this by the so called experts or writers. julio though not the perfect fighter was more then just a 50 50 fighter as mentioned by mr. lieberman. yet it is his article and he has a right to his voice. mr. lieberman, julio was an exceptional fighter and  great fighter...who got old..in boxing years ofcourse. and anyone who knows boxing well tell you the boxing years in a fighter tend to be cruel. it was no exception with julio, yet in his prime he was great. have a nice day mr. lieberman..and if you still think julio is 50 50 fighter at best..arrange a sparring session with him...i&#039;m sure the 50 50 julio will make a 100% believer out of you of his greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr. lieberman is entitled to his opinion&#8230;as is everyone. its sad that a fighter can give his all when in his prime and as he gets older falters, hes judged on this by the so called experts or writers. julio though not the perfect fighter was more then just a 50 50 fighter as mentioned by mr. lieberman. yet it is his article and he has a right to his voice. mr. lieberman, julio was an exceptional fighter and  great fighter&#8230;who got old..in boxing years ofcourse. and anyone who knows boxing well tell you the boxing years in a fighter tend to be cruel. it was no exception with julio, yet in his prime he was great. have a nice day mr. lieberman..and if you still think julio is 50 50 fighter at best..arrange a sparring session with him&#8230;i&#8217;m sure the 50 50 julio will make a 100% believer out of you of his greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: Unkle_Escobar</title>
		<link>http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/07/is-julio-cesar-chavez-sr-not-a-legend/#comment-11428</link>
		<dc:creator>Unkle_Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im with you there daniel, the boy that wrote this cant have much knowledge on the sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im with you there daniel, the boy that wrote this cant have much knowledge on the sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Unkle_Escobar</title>
		<link>http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/07/is-julio-cesar-chavez-sr-not-a-legend/#comment-11135</link>
		<dc:creator>Unkle_Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? Were you drinking when you wrote this article?
Chavez is amongst the greatest fighters ever to grace the canvas, his record says it all.

He may not have a list of greats that he beat, thats cos there was no-one better than him at time.

He could only fight the people that were about to get in the ring with him at the time, and he demolished most of them without too much effort. Im sure he could have stepped it up a gear against most of them too, but he didn&#039;t need to.

Im not the biggest fan of mexican fighters, but Barrera and Chavez are sporting icons, and definitely merit their place in the boxing hall of fame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? Were you drinking when you wrote this article?<br />
Chavez is amongst the greatest fighters ever to grace the canvas, his record says it all.</p>
<p>He may not have a list of greats that he beat, thats cos there was no-one better than him at time.</p>
<p>He could only fight the people that were about to get in the ring with him at the time, and he demolished most of them without too much effort. Im sure he could have stepped it up a gear against most of them too, but he didn&#8217;t need to.</p>
<p>Im not the biggest fan of mexican fighters, but Barrera and Chavez are sporting icons, and definitely merit their place in the boxing hall of fame!</p>
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		<title>By: Fight Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy smokes! I just the list of writers for this page, he actually works for the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy smokes! I just the list of writers for this page, he actually works for the website.</p>
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		<title>By: Fight Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man did this author grab things out of the air.  Well it may not be surprising, look at who wrote it, some one who does not know the intricacies of a sport. Ask Haugen about the soft opposition Lieberman. If fighting soft opposition is so easy why isn&#039;t everyone doing it?  I guess Mayweather should be at 200 plus wins if that is the case.  Lieberman you may handle the weather for your respective paper or the Sunday funny page and this may have been an attempt to finally do something comical.  I surely hope that you are not someone that this web page actually pays for your services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man did this author grab things out of the air.  Well it may not be surprising, look at who wrote it, some one who does not know the intricacies of a sport. Ask Haugen about the soft opposition Lieberman. If fighting soft opposition is so easy why isn&#8217;t everyone doing it?  I guess Mayweather should be at 200 plus wins if that is the case.  Lieberman you may handle the weather for your respective paper or the Sunday funny page and this may have been an attempt to finally do something comical.  I surely hope that you are not someone that this web page actually pays for your services.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27 title defense 37 title fights!  most of any boxer in history.  The problem is that you lack a knowledge of boxing to know that back then they were fighters now they are buisness men like De La Hoya.  Todays fighters are just high profile but not good fighters.  Case in point name me a list of all the top fighters today?  Chavez was considered the pound for pound best fighter in the World for several years.  6 time world champion, three divisions.  Tzyu, De La Hoya and Whitaker got Chavez after he fell into problems with his wife, money and subtance abuse.  If he were American he would of been considered the best fighter of all-time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>27 title defense 37 title fights!  most of any boxer in history.  The problem is that you lack a knowledge of boxing to know that back then they were fighters now they are buisness men like De La Hoya.  Todays fighters are just high profile but not good fighters.  Case in point name me a list of all the top fighters today?  Chavez was considered the pound for pound best fighter in the World for several years.  6 time world champion, three divisions.  Tzyu, De La Hoya and Whitaker got Chavez after he fell into problems with his wife, money and subtance abuse.  If he were American he would of been considered the best fighter of all-time.</p>
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		<title>By: risto</title>
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		<dc:creator>risto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this guy sure does not know what he is talking about, chavez beat everyone out there at the time, accepted all challenges and never back down like a true mexican fighter with huevos!  Stop confusing the young generation that did not get the privilege of witnessing Mr. Chavez whoop ass in his prime.  Those last losses you mentioned were well beyond his prime, in those fights against De la Hoya, and kostya tszyu he was done with his boxing career  and was only doing it for the money.  Any mexican can tell you about the news of his misfortune, losing his wife, and all of his money.  He knew he wasnt what he used to be and it showed , but he fought them not to prove anything because he had nothing left to prove, but because he was in a desperate situation like many boxers find themselves  after retiring when they had bad financial advisors.  Chavez coming back to fight good fighters  like tszyu is like michael jordan coming back to face someone like Kobe bryant: although we know mike is the greatest of all time and in his prime he schooled kobe, we know that he probably couldnt do it now!!!!Not Even Ali fought or won as much as Chavez name another boxer who has gone 90 fights without losing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this guy sure does not know what he is talking about, chavez beat everyone out there at the time, accepted all challenges and never back down like a true mexican fighter with huevos!  Stop confusing the young generation that did not get the privilege of witnessing Mr. Chavez whoop ass in his prime.  Those last losses you mentioned were well beyond his prime, in those fights against De la Hoya, and kostya tszyu he was done with his boxing career  and was only doing it for the money.  Any mexican can tell you about the news of his misfortune, losing his wife, and all of his money.  He knew he wasnt what he used to be and it showed , but he fought them not to prove anything because he had nothing left to prove, but because he was in a desperate situation like many boxers find themselves  after retiring when they had bad financial advisors.  Chavez coming back to fight good fighters  like tszyu is like michael jordan coming back to face someone like Kobe bryant: although we know mike is the greatest of all time and in his prime he schooled kobe, we know that he probably couldnt do it now!!!!Not Even Ali fought or won as much as Chavez name another boxer who has gone 90 fights without losing</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chavez is a legend, De La Hoya is a Chicken!</description>
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		<title>By: DpR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DpR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to make this to long. But, I would like to say non-fighters (spectators) think they know the boxing/fight game and say this type of crap all the time.  All careers start with bums.  That is how fighters records are built to get the public eye on them.  Average boxing or non boxing fans don&#039;t care about what bum their guy is fighting as long as their guy wins.  And if it is by KO or just a win, they are happy and will watch again. Now if you know boxing you&#039;ll know that fighters like Chavez get old fast.  They shine bright and burn out quick.  In their early 30&#039;s, all of them.  You forget that Chavez beat some better then average fighters besides the ones you mentioned which are close to being great.  They might not be hall-of-fame&#039;s but, are damn good fighters that would have given the list that beat Chavez trouble or maybe even beat them.  Mayweather almost handed Permell Whitaker a loss dropping him as well.  The losses against De La Hoya and Tszyu were (for a face first fighter) past his prime and it showed even against guys that he was brushing up on.  If you know boxing you can tell that.  I am just saying.  Chavez also wasn&#039;t just a face first fighter yes he really relied on that in the later years because he could take a punch.  But, if you look at his earlier fights you&#039;ll see the subtle defense that used little energy of deflecting and paring punches. Making fighters barely miss or glace off his gloves.  That was the genius behind that man. Also, what made him great was the relentless pressure he gave and got stronger (when he was younger) as the fight went on and he broke his opponents down physically and mentally.  Taylor, Mayweather, ROSARIO, Camacho (those 2 can go in as great fighters again not hall-of-fame&#039;s but great) don&#039;t forget when he needed to box he could do that as well with Jose Luis Ramirez (which he really didn&#039;t want to beat up because they were friends).  I can go on naming other very good fighters that he dismantled in his prime and after: Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes - undefeated in 44 fights at the time
Kyung Duk Ahn - IBF took that title
Angel Hernandez - Undefeated in 37 fights at that time
Miguel Angel Gonzalez - past his prime at 36, Mario Martinez - WBC
Ruben Castillo - WBC
Juan La Porte - WBC
In closing this is just my opinion. I am pretty young in the boxing game but a student of the game as a trainer and figher. I have only been in the game for a little over 20 years. Peace, DpR  :wink: 
P.S. please hit me back, I would love to read what you have to say on this.  I would guess also that you would say Mike Tyson wasn&#039;t a great fighter oh yeah because he got retarded in the mid nineties. Well, it really started showing before then.  But, that doesn&#039;t erase the accomplishments that were made my him.  I don&#039;t really acknowledge Tyson of the nineties because he was not the same fighter and was fading fast as all fighters with that style does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to make this to long. But, I would like to say non-fighters (spectators) think they know the boxing/fight game and say this type of crap all the time.  All careers start with bums.  That is how fighters records are built to get the public eye on them.  Average boxing or non boxing fans don&#8217;t care about what bum their guy is fighting as long as their guy wins.  And if it is by KO or just a win, they are happy and will watch again. Now if you know boxing you&#8217;ll know that fighters like Chavez get old fast.  They shine bright and burn out quick.  In their early 30&#8242;s, all of them.  You forget that Chavez beat some better then average fighters besides the ones you mentioned which are close to being great.  They might not be hall-of-fame&#8217;s but, are damn good fighters that would have given the list that beat Chavez trouble or maybe even beat them.  Mayweather almost handed Permell Whitaker a loss dropping him as well.  The losses against De La Hoya and Tszyu were (for a face first fighter) past his prime and it showed even against guys that he was brushing up on.  If you know boxing you can tell that.  I am just saying.  Chavez also wasn&#8217;t just a face first fighter yes he really relied on that in the later years because he could take a punch.  But, if you look at his earlier fights you&#8217;ll see the subtle defense that used little energy of deflecting and paring punches. Making fighters barely miss or glace off his gloves.  That was the genius behind that man. Also, what made him great was the relentless pressure he gave and got stronger (when he was younger) as the fight went on and he broke his opponents down physically and mentally.  Taylor, Mayweather, ROSARIO, Camacho (those 2 can go in as great fighters again not hall-of-fame&#8217;s but great) don&#8217;t forget when he needed to box he could do that as well with Jose Luis Ramirez (which he really didn&#8217;t want to beat up because they were friends).  I can go on naming other very good fighters that he dismantled in his prime and after: Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes &#8211; undefeated in 44 fights at the time<br />
Kyung Duk Ahn &#8211; IBF took that title<br />
Angel Hernandez &#8211; Undefeated in 37 fights at that time<br />
Miguel Angel Gonzalez &#8211; past his prime at 36, Mario Martinez &#8211; WBC<br />
Ruben Castillo &#8211; WBC<br />
Juan La Porte &#8211; WBC<br />
In closing this is just my opinion. I am pretty young in the boxing game but a student of the game as a trainer and figher. I have only been in the game for a little over 20 years. Peace, DpR  <img src='http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
P.S. please hit me back, I would love to read what you have to say on this.  I would guess also that you would say Mike Tyson wasn&#8217;t a great fighter oh yeah because he got retarded in the mid nineties. Well, it really started showing before then.  But, that doesn&#8217;t erase the accomplishments that were made my him.  I don&#8217;t really acknowledge Tyson of the nineties because he was not the same fighter and was fading fast as all fighters with that style does.</p>
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		<title>By: DpR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DpR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keep getting error</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep getting error</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian Zavala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristian Zavala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey you gringos you all take smack. Let me get one thing straight homes gringos cant fight.
 1) Chavez did beat Wise in rematch
2) He beat Randall twice in rematch
3) Michael he&#039;ll kick your ass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you gringos you all take smack. Let me get one thing straight homes gringos cant fight.<br />
 1) Chavez did beat Wise in rematch<br />
2) He beat Randall twice in rematch<br />
3) Michael he&#8217;ll kick your ass</p>
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