Is David Haye a True Heavyweight?
By Nate Anderson: The more and more I see of David Haye (21-1, 20 KOs), I think he’s not really cut out to be a heavyweight. His 6’2″ frame seems still far too smallish to achieve what he’s trying to accomplish by moving up from the cruiserweight limit of 200 lbs. Although there are some decent smaller heavyweights in the division like Monte Barrett, Lamon Brewster and Brian Minto, Haye doesn’t appear to even as big as those fighters. Recently I saw him on Setanta Sports with Steve Bunce and Haye looked a little larger than he had while fighting as a cruiserweight, but mostly he just appeared plain fat, with a noticeable gut on him.
With three months to go before his fight on the Vitali Klitschko vs. Samuel Peter undercard on October 18th, he still has time to put on some size, but I don’t see how it will make him anything other than a small heavyweight. To be sure, it’s difficult to put on 30-40 lbs of muscle in a short time like Haye is trying to accomplish, and probably even harder to be able to use the weight effectively that is put on in a hurry. In Haye’s case, he needs to gain a lot of weight before he’s able to compete with the top heavyweights, and if he’s at all serious about taking on a top contender in his next fight, he’s probably making a fatal mistake in doing so. He’s had big problems when facing opponents that can take his shots, as evidenced in his fight with Giacobbe Fragomeni in November 2006.
I think that’s a really bad idea for Haye, because Rahman can take a good shot, at least most of the time, and if he fires back at Haye with anything big, I seriously doubt Haye will be able to take the shots. Perhaps Haye might have gotten a feeling of false confidence after seeing how James Toney was able to defeat Rahman a week ago in a 3rd round TKO. However, the fight was stopped after a head butt that occurred in the 3rd round, which prevented Rahman from ever getting warmed up with his own big shots.
Believe me, if that had been Haye in there with Rahman, we’d have seen him going down by the 3rd or 4th round after Rahman landed a couple of big right hands. If Haye wants to fight as a heavyweight, he needs to start from with some really light hitting fighters, ones without a dangerous punch that can dent his fragile chin.
Once he works his way up from a C level heavyweight, maybe then he might be able to step in with a top fighter, but I still have grave doubts about whether he’ll ever succeed at what he’s trying to accomplish. He can forget completely about fighting a super heavyweight like Wladimir Klitschko or his brother Vitali, as they would take him out in a round or two with the first big shot that lands.
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David Haye will get sparked once he steps in thier with a fairly decent hitting HW. This guys been dropped 3+ times in the CW division FFS. And they weren’t the biggest punchers at CW either. The only cruiser for him to emulate (in terms of success at HW) is one Evander Holyfield. Considering EH had an indestructable granite chin and was only dropped for the 1st time in his career at HW (he was NEVER dropped at CW) it doesn’t bode too well for the chinny Mr. Haye. You have to be able to take HW shots – I seriously doubt David can. The hype will be good while it lasts.
Yeah trouble is Mike was a natural heavyweight all the way through his short amateur and long pro career, he also had a solid chin. Hide nor Haye have good chins, and despite Herbies skill and power he was chinny at heavyweight. You can change the weight but not the chin. Fact is Haye has been dropped by lighter hitting and smaller men, and as soon as a big hitting heavyweight hits his chin he will go.
herbie hide was very small for heavy weight and mike tyson was 5’11 Haye looks like a perfect HW to me its an advantage that he isnt fat he is naturelly athletic
david haye said this in his latest inteview something along the lines of- “i am naturally a heavyweight, i had to cut down on what i ate to make cruisewieght and was always hungary.” he also said that “at cruiserweight i weighed in at 14st 4lbs, i am now 16st 8lbs just from eating 2 to 3 times more than what i ate before, without purposefully trying to gain muscle.” (he is not fat either). so this may answer the critisicm that he is too small and weak to be a heavyweight.
I don’t follow Haye all that much but I wonder if you’re not exaggerating on the chin. He’s had 22 pro fights and he was knocked out only once by a fairly decent puncher. I have not seen him listed as 6’2 but as 6’3. It’s kind of funny that you say he’s got a noticeable gut. He has really picked on the heavyweights a lot about showing up flabby and slow. On the subject of flabby fighters, I’d laugh myself simple if Haye took a fight with James Toney and got knocked out.